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Obviously withhold judgement until all the facts come out but after what they've done or been accused of in the past it makes little sense for these guys to be having a "birthday party" out in a public place until 4 in the morning. These guys have enough money to party anywhere they want privately.
Agree 100%. It is too easy to get involved in an altercation or be accused of doing something by people looking to make some easy money. Just have a private party at your house and only invite friends.

That said I am not 100% sure the Pouncey's are in the clear yet. Someone beat the crap out of this guy and the police are still investigating. If it turns out that Maurkice is involved then that would really suck considering the contract he just signed with the Steelers.

 
Jermichael Finley: Pittsburgh Steelers offered deals

By Kevin Patra

Around the League writer

Published: July 15, 2014 at 08:04 a.m.

Updated: July 15, 2014 at 02:06 p.m.

Jermichael Finley's quest to return to the football field continues at the doctor's office.

The free agent tight end will undergo further testing on his injured neck Wednesday and send the results to all 32 teams, Finley told USA Today's Tom Pelissero.

Finley recently suggested he was hopeful for a reunion with the Green Bay Packers. However, he told Pelissero the Pittsburgh Steelers have been interested enough to show him the makings of a contract.

"Pittsburgh have showed me a couple deals, but we all know the money ain't what it's supposed to be," Finley said Monday. "If I quit the game right now, I can take tax-free money, and that's a difficult thing that I'm going through with myself ..."

That "tax-free" money Finley referenced is a $10 million insurance policy he took out that he could cash in if he never plays another snap.

The Steelers are an interesting club to monitor. Aside from Finley being an intriguing addition to Ben Roethlisberger's team, Dr. Joseph C. Maroon, the Steelers' team neurosurgeon, performed the tight end's surgery and has cleared him medically -- meaning one less hurdle if compensation changed during training camp.

According to Finley, Maroon said the chances are "99.9 percent that if I get back on the field, I'll be more protected and in better shape than I was before my injury."

Finley hopes Wednesday's examination will convince a team the same. In the meantime, he's content to work out and stay patient for the right opportunity.

"As long as I wait, you know and I know, guys are going to go down and the money's going to shoot up," Finley said. "It's all a waiting game right now."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000365227/article/jermichael-finley-pittsburgh-steelers-offered-deals

There is no way that I can see any team offering much more than league-minimum for Finley. The only prayer that he gets anything near $10 million guaranteed would be to come back and play for close to league minimum this year and have a monster season.

If it is all about the money, and I don't blame him if it is, he should just take the $10 million tax-free insurance $$$ and move on to his life's work.

Kinda cool that the Steelers tried to sign him though. No harm in trying...

 
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If he thinks he can get 10mil now he should go do that. Even if he proves that he can play this year Jimmy Graham only got a little less than 20 guarenteed. Not sure why he is attempting to play if he thinks that and no one is going to give him much more than the vet minimum 1 year contract.

Edit to add: He is also wrong about the waiting game. He needs to get on a team before camp. No one is going to want a player whose career is in the balance to miss camp and not see what they have. He sounds pretty stupid. He shouldn't even be talking about contracts in case he has to go the insurance route. That insurance company may just throw this article in his face and say you sound pretty healthy to me.

 
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Is anybody else concerned about defensive leadership? Keisel was probably the most vocal member of the defense last year. Not sure how much Woodley led, but he's gone too. Who steps up to be that vocal leader? Heyward?

 
time to go camping!

was listening to Craig Woofley on SNR yesterday and a couple points stuck out to me. His impressions from the earlier work in the spring is that Wheaton is gonna be really good. And Heyward could be one of the best DEs in the league. Oh, and Steve McClendon has packed on muscle up to 330. He was down as low as 305 last year.

 
What's PFF? I must have missed those rants.
Pro Football Focus. Maybe "rant" was too harsh, but he has some serious disdain. He basically dismisses them as 'nerds who can't possibly fully know what they are taking about.'

They get brought up in the comments on occasion and he never fails to take a giant steamer on them/their grades. Smacks of not really understanding how they come up with them/how you're supposed to interpret the results. Loves to bang the "THEY DON"T HAVE ACCESS TO COACHES' FILM, SO CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!" drum, but apparently just ignores that All 22 is available to anyone that wants to pay for it. Takes the grades/reports completely literally as well(e.g. "If Phillip Rivers graded out higher than Tom Brady for a season then PFF thinks Rivers is a better QB than Brady, and that's NUTS!") etc etc.

Like I said, I love his blog and he's the only other guy outside Bouchette that I think has steady, reliable contacts inside the org. He's just a bit irrational on that one subject, it seems some of his regular commenters know it, and they bait him with it at times.

 
Got it.

For whatever it's worth, it seems like all the beat guys worth a damn have issues. Wexell comes off like a large dbag more than occasionally.

 
Got it.

For whatever it's worth, it seems like all the beat guys worth a damn have issues. Wexell comes off like a large dbag more than occasionally.
Yeah, pretty much. (And Wexell does have his share of dbag moments, yes. And that doesn't even touch on the guys who aren't worth a damn like Kaboly, Dulac, et al)

They all need to take a page out of Bouchette's playbook here: Just be a curmudgeon 24/7/365. :) Bouchette is funny when he does it though.

 
Got it.

For whatever it's worth, it seems like all the beat guys worth a damn have issues. Wexell comes off like a large dbag more than occasionally.
Yeah, pretty much. (And Wexell does have his share of dbag moments, yes. And that doesn't even touch on the guys who aren't worth a damn like Kaboly, Dulac, et al)

They all need to take a page out of Bouchette's playbook here: Just be a curmudgeon 24/7/365. :) Bouchette is funny when he does it though.
Bouchette's act gets old for me too. He is the best source of Steelers info though.

 
Shazier apparently looked so good in the backs on backers drill that they ran some stuff afterwards with him outside and Jarvis Jones kicking into the middle. Interesting.

 
Shazier apparently looked so good in the backs on backers drill that they ran some stuff afterwards with him outside and Jarvis Jones kicking into the middle. Interesting.
Moats apparently looked good too. That said, word is Jarvis was playing angry and got the best of Beachum.

 
Shazier apparently looked so good in the backs on backers drill that they ran some stuff afterwards with him outside and Jarvis Jones kicking into the middle. Interesting.
Moats apparently looked good too. That said, word is Jarvis was playing angry and got the best of Beachum.
The Steelers would be fortunate to get another angry linebacker in Jones, following the lineage of Lambert, Lloyd, and Harrison.

 
Any word on whether or not our boy Bell is back at practice? I hope they take it slow and don't risk a significant hammy injury

 
FGITLOTR said:
Any word on whether or not our boy Bell is back at practice? I hope they take it slow and don't risk a significant hammy injury
From lolley:

Le'Veon Bell didn't practice again today [wednesday], but did do some walk-through stuff. It looks more precautionary right now than anything.
 
Didn't expect this at all:

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/07/29/steelers-insider-ed-bouchette-things-are-heating-up-at-steelers-camp/

The Steelers are also are facing some decisions on guys in the final year of their contract, like their top corner Cortez Allen.

“I am under the impression they are unlikely to sign any of them,” Bouchette said. “There is not a real high opinion on Cortez Allen and I don’t see them signing him.”
I'm calling BS on that one. We'll see. Kaboly says: The team wants to sign cornerback Cortez Allen to an extension before their self-imposed deadline of the start of the season.

 
BTW, in case it was missed in that pic Bell lost a "little" weight.
He has? I haven't heard anything, which is odd b/c in the offseason, you always hear that stuff.

I never thought he looked as big as he was listed (weight-wise) last year, though.

 
BTW, in case it was missed in that pic Bell lost a "little" weight.
He has? I haven't heard anything, which is odd b/c in the offseason, you always hear that stuff.

I never thought he looked as big as he was listed (weight-wise) last year, though.
They say he's down about 20lbs. He feels it will help him be quicker.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2014-pittsburgh-steelers-training-camp-news-times-schedule-tickets-updates/2014/7/29/5947519/steelers-rb-leveon-bell-dropped-20-pounds-in-the-offseason

 
funny and sad at the same time

Gerry Dulac ‏@gerrydulac 4m

Based on Thurs practice, PennDOT will put orange cone w flasher by Mike Adams. BEWARE big hole.
Seems like everyday someone blows him up... I'm actually starting to wonder if he even breaks camp.
Thinking the same thing. The starting 5 are set. Throw in Cody Wallace and that's 6. The draft pick Johnson can play multiple positions and appears to be doing ok. Undrafted guy Elkins has been impressing. Guy Whimper is still there. Anything is possible.

 
3C said:
Bojang0301 said:
funny and sad at the same time

Gerry Dulac ‏@gerrydulac 4m

Based on Thurs practice, PennDOT will put orange cone w flasher by Mike Adams. BEWARE big hole.
Seems like everyday someone blows him up... I'm actually starting to wonder if he even breaks camp.
Thinking the same thing. The starting 5 are set. Throw in Cody Wallace and that's 6. The draft pick Johnson can play multiple positions and appears to be doing ok. Undrafted guy Elkins has been impressing. Guy Whimper is still there. Anything is possible.
I think the Steelers were hoping Adams would push for a starting spot. Gilbert will get his extension as a starter, not a backup

 
Nice piece on Shazier. Fluffy, but what else are we gonna do for the next month?

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2014/07/28/column-why-pittsburgh-will-love-ryan-shazier/



DEJAN KOVACEVIC, DK ON PITTSBURGH SPORTS

LATROBE, Pa. — “I wasn’t surprised at all,” Ryan Shazier insisted to reporters Monday when asked about the almost barbaric punishment being doled out in the Steelers’ annual backs-on-backers drill. “We’re a hard-nosed team. We’re in Pittsburgh, Ohio.”

He caught himself immediately and laughed a bit.

“Pittsburgh, P-A. I’m sorry about that. Went to Ohio State. We’re from Pittsburgh, P-A. We play dirty.”

Caught himself again.

“Not dirty, but hard-nosed.”

Nah, that last one was fine, actually. And the other one wasn’t all bad, either. The way Shazier competed Monday — in backs-and-backers and all that followed on the first day in full pads — I’m guessing no one would care which Pittsburgh he’s from, so long as it’s the only one in the world ending with an H.

I’ll say it yet again, Nation: You will love this kid.

There was skepticism, sure, when Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert drafted him 15th overall in June. Not so much because of Shazier’s pedigree — as Tomlin deftly put it that same night, a linebacker with a stature of 6 feet 1, 237 pounds who can run the 40 in 4.2 seconds is “rare air” — but because of positioning. Everyone wanted a wide receiver. I’m no different. I heard the names, saw the highlights and picture a bookend for Antonio Brown that would have launched the Steelers’ offense to some other level.

Well, let’s all get over it collectively. Because, as it turns out, Ryan Dean Shazier, son of a Fort Lauderdale ordained minister, might just be the right blessing at the right time.
___________________

Tomlin habitually downplays drama, and yet lives for it in the right moments. He opened backs-on-backers by aligning LeGarrette Blount vs. Lawrence Timmons, just to get everyone’s attention. It worked. LB and LT collided with such force it might well have echoed off Saint Benedict Hall, high atop the hill overlooking Chuck Noll Field. The players whooped it up. The coaching staff barked encouragement. And Joey Porter, performing the Bizarro dual role of stand-in QB and psycho game-show host, bellowed out, “I see ya 9-4! I see ya!”

Tight end Rob Blanchflower and linebacker Vince Williams were the next to draw the hoots and hollers. Then little fireplug back Jordan Hall by leveling linebacker Terence Garvin. But none of it seemed enough to suit Tomlin, who mostly stood silently while Porter held bombastic court.

That’s when Tomlin lined up Blount and Shazier. The rest of us in the small circle near the south end zone — coaches, players and yeah, media, too, because drama doesn’t count if it isn’t witnessed — might not have known this would be the head coach’s marquee, but here’s betting he did.

First go-round was merely an opening act: Shazier, with one swift step and a strong fling of his left arm, blew through Blount and wrapped up Porter.

I would say that this excited Porter, but I could also tell you that the Browns will finish last.

“That’s it! That’s what I want! Speed is your asset! Use it! Speed is your asset!”

Tomlin wanted more.

Second go-round: Shazier used another burst, this time to Blount’s other side and was on Porter almost as quickly.

The players — except the other backers, of course — roared for this as if that had been Joe Flacco in Shazier’s grasp.

No way Tomlin would leave it at that, though. So he set up the same pins.

But before the snap, Porter had this to say in Shazier’s direction: “He don’t believe in you! He don’t believe! He don’t believe it’s real.”

Blount, he meant. Blount didn’t believe in Shazier. But whether or not that was the case soon proved moot.

Third go-round: BOOM!

If LB and LT were felt up the hill, then this collision had to have reverberated off the visible Laurel Highlands mountains several miles away. It was a seismic, almost sickening crash of helmets, pads, body parts and presumably senses.

Not even a boxing ref could state definitively who get the better of the actual moment, but it was instantly clear who got the worst of it when Shazier spun to his left, had a split-second awful glaze in his eyes, then collected himself before returning to his group.

There was no cheering this time, other than a couple backs giving it up for Blount. And really, no one needed to elaborate on what had just happened: The vet took his blows, then welcomed the rookie to the NFL.

“Obviously, I’m not as quick as he is,” Blount would say later. “He got my attention on the first couple. As a competitor, it’s in your nature to not lose. So I kept on going.”

How polite.

And Shazier’s reaction?

“I knew he was going to bring a punch on that last one.”

How respectful.
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Football diehards will remember this one, at least as best that’s possible without video being allowed. These are matchups, winners and losers alike, that live on in future camp lore.

To an extent, they’ll also be remembered by the men who matter most. At least if you took it seriously when Tomlin gushed like a kid on Christmas Eve the day before the pads were donned: “It’s not football-like. It’s football. I’m always excited about who ascends in those situations and who shrinks in those situations.”

Shrinks, the man said.

“That’s just the reality of it,” Tomlin continued to complete the thought.

Be that as it may, the fullest context must include actual football. And, in as close to that as we witnessed Monday, Shazier did anything but shrink.

On one play from scrimmage later in the session— again, full contact, 11 to a side — that fireplug Hall took a handoff and cut around left tackle with exceptional momentum. And once a healthy entourage of blockers arrived, it appeared he’d be on the way to a big gain.

Until he wasn’t.

The pack suddenly, violently began to move back with a collective flail. It wasn’t immediately clear why, only that it was. Back two yards, then three, then finally with poor Hall crushed under a mess of bodies.

As the players arose, one was left with his arms wrapped around Hall well after the tackle, gripping the back like a life preserver in shark-infested waters.

“I see ya 5-0!” came the shout from nearby. It was Porter, of course.

We’ll all see on the seventh of September.
 
Going back to the mini discussion way back about DHB making the final 53. Justin Brown is currently listed as #2 behind AB. We know who is going to make the team at WR, AB, Wheaton and Lance Moore. We assume Bryant will make it (and I read he's doing great in goalline work). JB has been doing really well which got him that bump up to #2 so for now at least he's in. Will they keep 6 WRs, especially when they will throw Archer all over the place?

 
3C said:
funny and sad at the same time

Gerry Dulac ‏@gerrydulac 4m

Based on Thurs practice, PennDOT will put orange cone w flasher by Mike Adams. BEWARE big hole.
Seems like everyday someone blows him up... I'm actually starting to wonder if he even breaks camp.
Thinking the same thing. The starting 5 are set. Throw in Cody Wallace and that's 6. The draft pick Johnson can play multiple positions and appears to be doing ok. Undrafted guy Elkins has been impressing. Guy Whimper is still there. Anything is possible.
I think the Steelers were hoping Adams would push for a starting spot. Gilbert will get his extension as a starter, not a backup
Adams had better improve quickly. If Munchak can't get anything out of him I could see the Steelers bailing, especially with Adams' off the field escapades.

 
Any of you insider types have the latest scuttlebutt on how the starting/most-used LB corps is likely to shake out in terms of who plays where? Or is it all just totally up in the air till they figure out what they've got in Spence?

 
Any of you insider types have the latest scuttlebutt on how the starting/most-used LB corps is likely to shake out in terms of who plays where? Or is it all just totally up in the air till they figure out what they've got in Spence?
The starting four are pretty much set with Timmons, Shazier, Jones and Worilds. Spence, Willliams and Garvin may be the primary backups. Zumwalt may make it due to his special teams play. Jones may be practice squad fodder.

 
Any of you insider types have the latest scuttlebutt on how the starting/most-used LB corps is likely to shake out in terms of who plays where? Or is it all just totally up in the air till they figure out what they've got in Spence?
The starting four are pretty much set with Timmons, Shazier, Jones and Worilds. Spence, Willliams and Garvin may be the primary backups. Zumwalt may make it due to his special teams play. Jones may be practice squad fodder.
So disregard any buzz I heard a while back about Shazier possibly moving outside? What I see above is what made the most sense to me. If Shazier's half of what they're making him out to be, ought to be a good corps for a while. :thumbup:

 

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