1.01 Strategy (1 Viewer)

[Zyphros]

If you have the 1.01 in a league, how do you manage it?

It brings some power to your position because you're due for a big named player added to your roster.  But what if you don't want it?  Initiating conversations saying the 1.01 is available just lets people know you're not fond of it and you're willing to sell.  That goes hand in hand with lower offers than you can get otherwise probably no?  

How do you let it be known it's available, without decreasing it's value if nobody has approached for buying it?  This goes for all draft picks for anyone wanting to trade up/down though.  If nobody has approached you about wanting to move up, well are you stuck?  Are you willing to take less because you're willing to sell?  How do you approach holding your pick when it's OTC and you see value in trading down but nobody else see's value in trading up?  

 

[nightmare]

You tier the picks and trade down. If you think the first 7 players are in a tier by themselves
you trade no lower then 1.07. You try to package the deal so you get 2 picks in the 2nd
tier of players you ranked. 

If no one bites, Then screw it and draft 1.01.

In my experience do not just let people know the 1.01 is up for trade. Work the phone
and propose deals. Do not wait for them to call.    

 

[barackdhouse]

If you have the 1.01 in a league, how do you manage it?

It brings some power to your position because you're due for a big named player added to your roster.  But what if you don't want it?  Initiating conversations saying the 1.01 is available just lets people know you're not fond of it and you're willing to sell.  That goes hand in hand with lower offers than you can get otherwise probably no?  

How do you let it be known it's available, without decreasing it's value if nobody has approached for buying it?  This goes for all draft picks for anyone wanting to trade up/down though.  If nobody has approached you about wanting to move up, well are you stuck?  Are you willing to take less because you're willing to sell?  How do you approach holding your pick when it's OTC and you see value in trading down but nobody else see's value in trading up?  

I don't think letting the cat out of the bag is a problem. Just hold your ground on what you want to get in return. I think when/if you announce it is on the block you can couch it with something like "listening to offers but may just hold". And if people lowball you then set them straight. 

I'm not going to be shopping 1.01 but I am looking to move up from 1.02 if I can. People can send offers for 1.01 and I'll hear it but I'm not trying to move it. Someone might fall in love and send a godfather offer but otherwise I'm holding.

 

[travdogg]

I kind of like the idea of letting people know the 1.1 is available, but not devaluing it in he process.

The best way to do that in my opinion, is to not try to trade down, but to offer the pick for a player on the other owner's roster, typically someone that is worth a decent amount more than the 1.1. That way, you let it be known you are willing to move the pick, but make it clear you aren't giving it away. 

From, there, its just a matter of meeting in the middle, and that can include all kinds of picks/players.  

 

[menobrown]

I don't think letting the cat out of the bag is a problem.

That's what I was thinking. It's not player specific right now so no reason for anyone to think you'd be panicking.

As an example last year this time I was trying to move Gurley and wondering how I should do it. I wanted best return but felt like if I posted it on the league message boards it would look like I was panicking over his knee. That's an example I'd give of not letting it be known someone is available. I just don't see that or any risk right now with 1.1.

  How do you approach holding your pick when it's OTC and you see value in trading down but nobody else see's value in trading up?  

If it's 1.1 and you've let it be known prior to the draft it's available and no one is offering you anything of value it's pretty much time to turn in your pick soon after the draft starts. Give it an hour or two at most. That's how I view it.

If we are talking not 1.1, and you want to hold your pick in hopes a player you like makes it but you come up short is a trickier situation. If you are absolutely don't give a care about your league or what they think of you it's true the optimal strategy is just to sit OTC for as much time as you can until you can try and get someone to break.  This is also true for the 1.1. The bore people to death until you get someone to break strategy.  I personally can't and won't do this and will spew nastiness at those who do.

If I enter a draft with say pick 9, got 7 players I'd like and fall just short I'll check my board to see how far back I can go for my next tier and start making some offers. Try and give a little time for people to respond. If that fails I'll post the pick is available and if outstanding offers have not been decisioned I will let league know I'm willing to listen to offers while I'm busy working other trades. But at most I only give this a few hour or if it's late at night when I get OTC  might wait till morning to pick. Can't argue with strategy of sitting on the clock all day being most optimal when you find yourself in this spot, but it's not how I choose to treat my league mates.

So bottom line for me waiting on the clock all day until you get someone to break is probably best strategy but not one I can in good conscience use. So I try and give it a few hours at most, keep my leaugemates updated, try hard to work a trade but if I can't after a few hours I feel like I got to make the pick.

 

[Snorkelson]

Lots of factors at play-

1. If you’re trying to trade back and get picks in return there’s only so many people with the ammo to make the move. 
2. If you’ve earned the pick you likely aren’t going to take established vets while in a rebuild. 
3. Draft class hype- getting multiple picks back is more difficult this year as people are treating 2nd rounders as probable starters. Last year you could get all sorts of picks. 
 

With all that in mind, there’s likely only 2-3 people that make sense to trade with, so make your offers and see what happens. 

 

[-OZ-]

First ask yourself why you want to trade it. 

If it's just because you don't like the players you'd expect to take there, make offers with others to trade down. If you ask for something reasonable (say 1.03-5 and next year's 1st as a starting point), you may get a bite. If you're asking for multiple firsts this year, good luck.  I think this year, before the draft takes place, you'll find trading the 1 challenging.

If you see yourself as a contender, try asking the owners of players you like and are similarly valued what they would want for those players, without offering the 1 straight out. Players like kamara, Chubb, Godwin, Mixon, Jacobs, etc could be solid targets. 

If I had the pick I'd probably just hang on for now. If Taylor or Swift land in KC or another ideal spot and you still want to trade the pick, you should be able to get much more. I don't think the value decreases much, unless all the top players land in bad spots (which seems unlikely)

 

[DAG]

If I had the pick I'd probably just hang on for now. If Taylor or Swift land in KC or another ideal spot and you still want to trade the pick, you should be able to get much more. I don't think the value decreases much, unless all the top players land in bad spots (which seems unlikely)

This is where I am right now. I want to wait to see landing spots/draft capital both to determine my own value for what I consider the top tier guys, and to see how my league mates might value specific players after the draft. If someone who I am already very high on becomes solidified as my top guy then I would be more disposed to keep the pick. If the top tier remains clustered together after the draft I might consider moving down for the right deal. 

For me the top guys really haven't sorted out yet. I agree with @-OZ- that the value of the pick is unlikely to decrease, and could stand to increase or at least remain the same post-draft. The main thing is, I don't feel like I have all the info I need to make a call yet. 

 

[Ilov80s]

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