1.1 in a new 12 team dynasty draft (1 Viewer)

[tex]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

 

[vikingdave]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Interesting question, and maybe the better question is what would you trade 1.01 and 2.12 for?

I would take 5 and 6. In 12 teams, I'd have 2 of the best 6 players in the NFL, which should be better than 1 and 24 in the long run. That may sound a bit conservative (Trade away #1) but if you believe that the Top 6 are no worse than 80-90% of #1, you have to make that move.

Stud RBs that get >75% of their team's production are becoming a rarity.

Having the choice of SJax/Westy/Addai/MB3 at 5 and 6 > ADP and #24.

 

[Penguin]

Interesting question, and maybe the better question is what would you trade 1.01 and 2.12 for?

I would take 5 and 6. In 12 teams, I'd have 2 of the best 6 players in the NFL, which should be better than 1 and 24 in the long run. That may sound a bit conservative (Trade away #1) but if you believe that the Top 6 are no worse than 80-90% of #1, you have to make that move.

I agree but how would you be able to get #5 & #6 from the same owner in an initial dynasty? I guess someone could have traded their 2nd & 3rd for one of those picks, I don't know. I think the OP meant would you trade 1.01 & 2.12 for either 1.05 or 1.06 and the 2nd round pick that comes with each.

 

[EBF]

I think you can win from any spot as long as you pick good players. The key isn't so much having the top pick, but rather getting good bang for your buck. If you draft nothing but good players for your first 6-7 picks, you're probably going to be a contender.

 

[tex]

Interesting question, and maybe the better question is what would you trade 1.01 and 2.12 for?

I would take 5 and 6. In 12 teams, I'd have 2 of the best 6 players in the NFL, which should be better than 1 and 24 in the long run. That may sound a bit conservative (Trade away #1) but if you believe that the Top 6 are no worse than 80-90% of #1, you have to make that move.

I agree but how would you be able to get #5 & #6 from the same owner in an initial dynasty? I guess someone could have traded their 2nd & 3rd for one of those picks, I don't know. I think the OP meant would you trade 1.01 & 2.12 for either 1.05 or 1.06 and the 2nd round pick that comes with each.

Yes Penguin, I was proposing the question---would you be better off with the 1.05 and 2.07 or the 1.01 and 2.12. Or the 1.06 and the 2.06 vs. the 1.01 and the 2.12. Certainly I think most would love to have the 1.5 and 1.6 vs. the 1.1, but in an initial dynasty draft, that would be pretty tough to accomplish.

 

[Andy Herron]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

 

[cstu]

Interesting question, and maybe the better question is what would you trade 1.01 and 2.12 for?

I would take 5 and 6. In 12 teams, I'd have 2 of the best 6 players in the NFL, which should be better than 1 and 24 in the long run. That may sound a bit conservative (Trade away #1) but if you believe that the Top 6 are no worse than 80-90% of #1, you have to make that move.

I agree but how would you be able to get #5 & #6 from the same owner in an initial dynasty? I guess someone could have traded their 2nd & 3rd for one of those picks, I don't know. I think the OP meant would you trade 1.01 & 2.12 for either 1.05 or 1.06 and the 2nd round pick that comes with each.

Yes Penguin, I was proposing the question---would you be better off with the 1.05 and 2.07 or the 1.01 and 2.12. Or the 1.06 and the 2.06 vs. the 1.01 and the 2.12. Certainly I think most would love to have the 1.5 and 1.6 vs. the 1.1, but in an initial dynasty draft, that would be pretty tough to accomplish.

In that case, no. AP is in a league of his own.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Interesting question, and maybe the better question is what would you trade 1.01 and 2.12 for?

I would take 5 and 6. In 12 teams, I'd have 2 of the best 6 players in the NFL, which should be better than 1 and 24 in the long run. That may sound a bit conservative (Trade away #1) but if you believe that the Top 6 are no worse than 80-90% of #1, you have to make that move.

I agree but how would you be able to get #5 & #6 from the same owner in an initial dynasty? I guess someone could have traded their 2nd & 3rd for one of those picks, I don't know. I think the OP meant would you trade 1.01 & 2.12 for either 1.05 or 1.06 and the 2nd round pick that comes with each.

Yes Penguin, I was proposing the question---would you be better off with the 1.05 and 2.07 or the 1.01 and 2.12. Or the 1.06 and the 2.06 vs. the 1.01 and the 2.12. Certainly I think most would love to have the 1.5 and 1.6 vs. the 1.1, but in an initial dynasty draft, that would be pretty tough to accomplish.

Ok, I got your question now.With that in mind, Rounds 1 and 2 aren't the keys in a startup Dynasty. Determining where the values / tiers are and getting the most picks in those spots are the way to go. There will be some spots in the draft where you don't like the players, so trade up and down out of that spot to improve your picks.

I wrote more on this here:

There's A Hole

 

[Andy Herron]

My bad. Missed the "dynasty" part.

So is this the same "tex" from Houston or not?

Mr. Sanford????

 

[Getinthemix]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

 

[Andy Herron]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

 

[vikingdave]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

 

[vikingdave]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

 

[IZ4]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Please don't go.

 

[vikingdave]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Please don't go.

Oh I wont...Ill just spend my money elsewhere...

 

[Verbal Kint]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Good. While you're at it, why not post somewhere else.

 

[Andy Herron]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)

In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.

I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.

If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.

Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.

It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.

In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...

Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Once you pull yourself back into your chair-I was just pulling a name out of the air, as the "maybe" would indicate.

Obviously, if Romo was available at 2.12, he would be my guy. In just giving it a moment's thought, I didn't really imagine him being there.

Sure would be interested in knowing who the players were that went BEFORE Romo.

3.4 seems late to me. Can't hardly fathom twenty-some players of more value than Romo in a dynasty format, unless the QB scoring system is less than favorable.

 

[Christo]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

I look at it slightly different. I don't see it as getting the 1st and 24th players. I see it as getting three of the top 25 players in the draft. Given my belief that people are going to make mistakes (e.g. in a dynasty draft four years ago one guy took Vick with his 2.04), I believe that I will actually be gettting the best player in football plus two second rounders.

 

[Christo]

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Throwing loudmouth drunks out of bars doesn't seem to hurt business.

 

[Andy Herron]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

I look at it slightly different. I don't see it as getting the 1st and 24th players. I see it as getting three of the top 25 players in the draft. Given my belief that people are going to make mistakes (e.g. in a dynasty draft four years ago one guy took Vick with his 2.04), I believe that I will actually be gettting the best player in football plus two second rounders.

Now that's an interesting twist, and a good perspective.

 

[Sabertooth]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

 

[TheWick]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football?

 

[vikingdave]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)

In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.

I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.

If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.

Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.

It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.

In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...

Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Once you pull yourself back into your chair-I was just pulling a name out of the air, as the "maybe" would indicate.

Obviously, if Romo was available at 2.12, he would be my guy. In just giving it a moment's thought, I didn't really imagine him being there.

Sure would be interested in knowing who the players were that went BEFORE Romo.

3.4 seems late to me. Can't hardly fathom twenty-some players of more value than Romo in a dynasty format, unless the QB scoring system is less than favorable.

http://football35.myfantasyleague.com/2008...=78967&O=17There is the link to the draft, the scoring is your basic PPR scoring, QBs get 4 point per TD, normal as far as I know...

IMO it was too high, as I wouldnt touch a QB that early, I got Brees at 5.12 while those guys took Romo, Brady, Manning and Big Ben way higher than I was willing to...

 

[vikingdave]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football?

No ####, please tell me who should go #1 over AP?

 

[vikingdave]

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Throwing loudmouth drunks out of bars doesn't seem to hurt business.

Cool, I see you've been thrown out a time or two huh...

 

[vikingdave]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Good. While you're at it, why not post somewhere else.

I do...

 

[LBH]

Depending how high you are on your #1 player I think its a good spot to have. I still love whats available at 2.12/3.1 and 4.12/5.1.

 

[womb]

I think this whole argument breaks down to tiers and gaps.

I am sure almost everyone on this board is certain that there is a significant gap between AP and pick #5 or #6. Also, I am almost positive there is much more doubt as to who #5 should be as opposed to #1.

Now, do we think that gap exists between #18 and #24? I certainly do not. To me it is not even close. Therefore, I would certainly prefer to be at 1.01.

With that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There will be managers who think that the gap is in fact the other way. That is the beauty of it all. Otherwise leagues would have big fights. I know ours did. That is why had to throw the whole idea out and go with an auction.

 

[Bears_Man2]

Was able to snag Peterson at 1.01, Moss at 2.12 and Mendenhall at 3.01 in a recent dynasty PPR startup filled with FBG's. I love having 1.01 and back-2-back picks. If I didn't think Mendenhall was the #1 rookie RB for dynasty, could of gotten S.Smith/Marshall/Turner also.

No way IMO that the upgrade from 24 to 18 (?) also is worth the downgrade from 1.01 to 1.06 (?)

 

[bcr8f]

Interesting question, and maybe the better question is what would you trade 1.01 and 2.12 for? I would take 5 and 6. In 12 teams, I'd have 2 of the best 6 players in the NFL, which should be better than 1 and 24 in the long run. That may sound a bit conservative (Trade away #1) but if you believe that the Top 6 are no worse than 80-90% of #1, you have to make that move.Stud RBs that get >75% of their team's production are becoming a rarity.Having the choice of SJax/Westy/Addai/MB3 at 5 and 6 > ADP and #24.

In a league where you get your choice(16 team), but the 3.01 would be hard to let go of. May stay there and trade the pick.

 

[fsufan]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

i took LT when he was a rookie in a start up dynasty league. He has been the anchor of my team. A player like ADP will do the same.

 

[Ripleys]

VikingDave, this isn't Antsports, where anyone can say anything without consequence. And I thank God this place IS 100% different than that pile of dung Antsports. :(

 

[Shermdog4444]

The 1.1 guy in our 12 team PPR dynasty startup this year got ADP and Calvin Johnson. Pick 1.6 got addai/colston. I would much prefer ADP/CJ

 

[vikingdave]

VikingDave, this isn't Antsports, where anyone can say anything without consequence. And I thank God this place IS 100% different than that pile of dung Antsports.

Obviously...that place sucks...

 

[Sabertooth]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football?

When you take 's opinion of a player, you have to realize that they are not being objective. Just take it with a grain of salt. And I am an Adrian Peterson owner too. Just saying that the hype is going to be staggering this season.

 

[Sabertooth]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football?

No ####, please tell me who should go #1 over AP?

Ladainian.

 

[fsufan]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football?

No ####, please tell me who should go #1 over AP?

Ladainian.

i love LT, had him since he was a rookie in my main dynasty league. But in a start up dynasty league, I would take ADP. LT is 29 and ADP is going into his 2nd year.

 

[Getinthemix]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football?

No ####, please tell me who should go #1 over AP?

Ladainian.

i love LT, had him since he was a rookie in my main dynasty league. But in a start up dynasty league, I would take ADP. LT is 29 and ADP is going into his 2nd year.

Agreed. Getting a top RB going into his 2nd year in a dynasty is incredibly valuable.

 

[vikingdave]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football? :(

No ####, please tell me who should go #1 over AP?

Ladainian.

i love LT, had him since he was a rookie in my main dynasty league. But in a start up dynasty league, I would take ADP. LT is 29 and ADP is going into his 2nd year.

Agreed. Getting a top RB going into his 2nd year in a dynasty is incredibly valuable.

obviously...but then again dont listen to me, cause Im just a huge homer...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Hi vikingdave,Opinions are welcome, but not attacks on someone else's opinions.Either you get it or you don't. If you don't, there's far more sites out there for you.We run this site a particular way and it works well for us. If you don't appreciate it - the Internet's a big place.Spend your money wisely.

 

[Dirty Weasel]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Hi vikingdave,Opinions are welcome, but not attacks on someone else's opinions.Either you get it or you don't. If you don't, there's far more sites out there for you.We run this site a particular way and it works well for us. If you don't appreciate it - the Internet's a big place.Spend your money wisely.

Oh, SNAP! I've been up for 26 hours now, and downed about a quart of rum. But even I got the jist of that.

 

[vikingdave]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Hi vikingdave,Opinions are welcome, but not attacks on someone else's opinions.Either you get it or you don't. If you don't, there's far more sites out there for you.We run this site a particular way and it works well for us. If you don't appreciate it - the Internet's a big place.Spend your money wisely.

eye eye captain...

 

[FUBAR]

You have the 1.1 and the 2.12. The 1st and 24th player in the draft barring any trades that you can make. In general is that a better scenario than say the 1.5 or the 1.6 where you would pick in the middle of each round? I'd like to see some discussion on this.

TEX!Is that you? From "the locker room?" (and that whole ESPN thing)In any case, you're sitting like the Dolphins were this year-stuck in the front with no clear #1.I would most definitely trade out of it if you could find the opportunity to do so. Almost anywhere else would be more beneficial.If not, take Brady and the best RB available at 2.12. I'm not a big Brady advocate by any stretch, but he's the most "consistent" of any player in FF.Far more so, and more reliable (injuries) than any RB, other than possibly L.T.It really comes down to those two. AP is not an overall #1. Not by my books anyway. Not yet.

You would take Brady at 1.1 in an initial Dynasty draft?Seriously?

No.I corrected it in the previous post. Missed the "dynasty" part.In that case, I may very well take AP. Then maybe Cutler at 2.12.

LMFAO...can I join a league with you?I just did a new dynasty a few weeks back, Brady went late 3rd round...Romo was actually top QB picked at 3.4...Either way, Cutler...bwahahaha, at 2.12...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Would you like me to quote your post as a "tool factor" example, or would you prefer to tone it down?

WTF?Ill remember to keep my opinions to myself, not a problem... Gotta love a MB that wont let you say anything apparently, hilarious... Ill remember not to spend any money on anything from this site next year like I did this year if thats how this place wants to treat customers...

Hi vikingdave,Opinions are welcome, but not attacks on someone else's opinions.Either you get it or you don't. If you don't, there's far more sites out there for you.We run this site a particular way and it works well for us. If you don't appreciate it - the Internet's a big place.Spend your money wisely.

eye eye captain...

This won't end well. FWIW, I also like Cutler, but unless this is a 2 QB start format, he is not a 2nd round pick.Then again, in dynasty, the top QB should be gone before 3.4 and it (probably) shouldn't be Romo.

 

[FUBAR]

I was just pulling a name out of the air, as the "maybe" would indicate.

Obviously, if Romo was available at 2.12, he would be my guy. In just giving it a moment's thought, I didn't really imagine him being there.

Sure would be interested in knowing who the players were that went BEFORE Romo.

3.4 seems late to me. Can't hardly fathom twenty-some players of more value than Romo in a dynasty format, unless the QB scoring system is less than favorable.

I agree with your point here. AD at 1.01, a top QB at 2.12, and probably a top WR at 3.01.

I'd gladly start a league with AD, Romo and Colston.

 

[TheWick]

1.1...you get AP and there is still GREAT talent left at 2.12/3.1 turn...

So you get an explosive player that may or may not be a full time back. You Vikings homers are starting to go insane I think. You didn't even make the playoffs last season with AD.

What does that have to do with Fantasy Football?

When you take 's opinion of a player, you have to realize that they are not being objective. Just take it with a grain of salt. And I am an Adrian Peterson owner too. Just saying that the hype is going to be staggering this season.

I understand...I'm not sure who else you can take at #1 in a dynasty though...Sjax?

 

[Beefeaters]

I'd be curious as to what it would take to outright trade out of the 1st round in a 16 team start up dynasty... what would that 1.01 pick be worth without offering any other 1st rounders in the equation?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'd be curious as to what it would take to outright trade out of the 1st round in a 16 team start up dynasty... what would that 1.01 pick be worth without offering any other 1st rounders in the equation?

Great question.Considering in redraft that 1.01 and 2.16 are about equal to 1.16 and 2.01, you're basically asking what is the 2.16 worth (i.e. 1.01 for 2.01 and 2.02 is the same deal without 2.16)... and that's for redraft.I'd ballpark it at 3 2nds and a 3rd, possibly 4 2nds for 1.01 - but I doubt you'd get that.I think 2 2nds and a 3rd is attainable, and at a minimum someone's 2nd/3rd/4th round picks.That would give the other owner 1.01 and his 1st, then 3 rounds off.You may want to play around with the calculator in my sig - it does have a "startup" feature now in Release 2a.