Are you a cliff dweller in Dynasty? A Dynasty Locust? (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Do you take over orphan teams in dynasty for the sole purpose winning and bailiing soon after? Meaning, you like to roster guys who are older and producing now and if they fall off the cliff you just take what you've won and move on to the next league? Are you a dynasty locust? Because in dynasty most owners are building for the future and it's easier to trade picks and young non-producing assets to these teams for producing veterans. While this strategy goes against dynasty philosophy in general, as a commissioner for many years I've seen this more often than you think. I've had to replace a lot of old teams with the cupboard bare once the locust owner strikes.

I'd be interested in knowing how many will admit to this.

 

[Soulfly3]

I'm a dynasty tapeworm... I'm all up in everyone's ***

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Do you take over orphan teams in dynasty for the sole purpose winning and bailiing soon after? Meaning, you like to roster guys who are older and producing now and if they fall off the cliff you just take what you've won and move on to the next league? Are you a dynasty locust? Because in dynasty most owners are building for the future and it's easier to trade picks and young non-producing assets to these teams for producing veterans. While this strategy goes against dynasty philosophy in general, as a commissioner for many years I've seen this more often than you think. I've had to replace a lot of old teams with the cupboard bare once the locust owner strikes.

I'd be interested in knowing how many will admit to this.

I've never left a dynasty league.

This is one of the reasons it annoys me so much when people are harping on everyone making their picks quickly in startup drafts. I get to do a new startup draft like once every two years because I stick with the teams and can't take on too many, so I get tired of these people who are just going to bail and orphan their teams so they can do 12 more startups next year trying to rush through it so the rest of us can sit on our thumbs for the rest of the offseason.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm a dynasty tapeworm... I'm all up in everyone's ***

Explain, I'd like to know more.

 

[joey]

First a cliff dweller, now a locust. Please keep your metaphors consistent


I am NOT a locust/cliff dweller but I joined a SharkPool FFPC dynasty league 5 years ago, drafted at the end of the first and when I was faced with the obvious-best-available-player in Derrick Henry, I shifted my approach entirely to Win Now, grabbing players like AJones, Davante Adams and Mike Evans “late” (they all kinda dropped a round in value cuz they were “old”).

I parlayed this into back to back ’Chips in that league (with some luck of course, like both Adams and Evans putting up 35 point games that one week 17 that I’ll never forget).

I’m in the middle of a…what do folks call it around here when you’re rebuilding but still trying to compete? We shall see how it turns out.

I’m in 4 dynasty leagues and don’t plan on leaving a single one.

 

[lsutigers]

As a longtime commish, this is the worst type of owner. What's sad is that you can typically see this coming from transactions but are powerless to stop.

Just like hiring the wrong employee has hidden costs, filling an orphaned team with the wrong owner keeps you in the loop and usually includes comped picks, less dues, some benefit for anyone to take on the older, less valuable roster.

 

[JohnnyU]

First a cliff dweller, now a locust. Please keep your metaphors consistent


I am NOT a locust/cliff dweller but I joined a SharkPool FFPC dynasty league 5 years ago, drafted at the end of the first and when I was faced with the obvious-best-available-player in Derrick Henry, I shifted my approach entirely to Win Now, grabbing players like AJones, Davante Adams and Mike Evans “late” (they all kinda dropped a round in value cuz they were “old”).

I parlayed this into back to back ’Chips in that league (with some luck of course, like both Adams and Evans putting up 35 point games that one week 17 that I’ll never forget).

I’m in the middle of a…what do folks call it around here when you’re rebuilding but still trying to compete? We shall see how it turns out.

I’m in 4 dynasty leagues and don’t plan on leaving a single one.

I like both metaphors for the purpose of this topic. They go hand-in-hand.

Sure, some teams, me included, like to play the win now and stay young game at the same time. Others like to too, but I'm specifically pointing at those who only play the win now game without regard to the future and once it's been used up they simply move on to the next dynasty league. Rinse and repeat. This can be challenging for dynasty commissioners.

 

[FantasyMC]

I like taking over orphaned teams and building them up. To me, that's the most fun.

 

[JohnnyU]

I like taking over orphaned teams and building them up. To me, that's the most fun.

You would be the type of dynasty owners I like having in my leagues.

 

[pinkstapler]

I don't play in leagues anymore that don't require paying ahead for future buy ins of any league year you're away picks from. So if the buy in this year is $100 and you come in and want to trade away your picks from 2026 and 2027, you're paying $300. That way if/when you bail, it's easier to replace you by giving the new owner a free stake in his first year or two.

In general I enjoy taking over orphans in leagues where there is a nice size buy-in or if it's a long running league. If it's only 3 years old and already half the owners have been replaced, I'll typically pass on that though. Transforming a bad orphan team is super fun and fulfilling, but I'm not putting all that time in if it's an unstable league, or some cheap buy in where people aren't really invested.

(I'm sure some people out there have free/low buy in leagues that are very competitive/fun/stable. But I've never been a part of one, and my history with them has always been very poor. That's why they are typically an avoid for me.)

 

[Soulfly3]

I'm a dynasty tapeworm... I'm all up in everyone's ***

Explain, I'd like to know more.

Well, you see... My dynasty league is comprised of 10 lifeling buddies. No one joins, because no one exits.

I am embedded deep is the digestive tracts of all my leaguemates, feeding off their resources until they have no choice but to beg for mercy from me.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm a dynasty tapeworm... I'm all up in everyone's ***

Explain, I'd like to know more.

Well, you see... My dynasty league is comprised of 10 lifeling buddies. No one joins, because no one exits.

I am embedded deep is the digestive tracts of all my leaguemates, feeding off their resources until they have no choice but to beg for mercy from me.

Is your team name “The Cannibal “?

 

[efactor]

I'm a dynasty tapeworm... I'm all up in everyone's ***

Explain, I'd like to know more.

I don’t

 

[Soulfly3]

I'm a dynasty tapeworm... I'm all up in everyone's ***

Explain, I'd like to know more.

Well, you see... My dynasty league is comprised of 10 lifeling buddies. No one joins, because no one exits.

I am embedded deep is the digestive tracts of all my leaguemates, feeding off their resources until they have no choice but to beg for mercy from me.

Is your team name “The Cannibal “?

Pain in the Taeniasis.

 

[Gatorade]

After rejoining the FF community a few years ago I took over an average dynasty team. My biggest asset was Ja'Marr Chase. I immediately got an offer for him that strengthened my team in several areas. I took the offer and was a playoff contender right away. A few years later and the only player I got in that trade still on my team is Cooper Kupp. I am still a contender, but learned from that mistake to value younger assets way more. I didn't bail and continued to build my team . Unfortunately, too many other owners tried the one and done system and the league is folding this year .

 

[efactor]

I’m in the middle of a…what do folks call it around here when you’re rebuilding but still trying to compete? We shall see how it turns out.

Ha. I get that. Hard to commit to a total rebuild if you think you can make the playoffs and catch a break and win a ring.

Just took over a team this year that’s in that situation. 3 team dispersal draft and I grabbed a couple of older guys (CMC and Evans). A few totally stacked teams so nowhere near that level but I think I can make the playoffs and as we all know, anything can happen then.

The only dynasty league I ever bailed on was my first SF league and I just didn’t like the format and didn’t enjoy that particular league. Played two years and left the team in much better shape than when I took it over so didn’t feel bad about leaving. They found another owner quickly.

 

[JohnnyU]

I’m in the middle of a…what do folks call it around here when you’re rebuilding but still trying to compete? We shall see how it turns out.

Ha. I get that. Hard to commit to a total rebuild if you think you can make the playoffs and catch a break and win a ring.

Just took over a team this year that’s in that situation. 3 team dispersal draft and I grabbed a couple of older guys (CMC and Evans). A few totally stacked teams so nowhere near that level but I think I can make the playoffs and as we all know, anything can happen then.

The only dynasty league I ever bailed on was my first SF league and I just didn’t like the format and didn’t enjoy that particular league. Played two years and left the team in much better shape than when I took it over so didn’t feel bad about leaving. They found another owner quickly.

Some people think you can't rebuild and compete at the same time and that simply isn't true. They will say if you're not a top team you're better off being a bottom team and get the higher pick. My philosophy is to win now with a young roster and if that means I'm a middle tier team for awhile, then so be it. I like my chances of trading for higher picks or other young talent more than I like being a bottom feeder for picks team.

 

[msudaisy26]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

I'd like to think I have thicker skin. Also, for me personally, I don't need a league with 10 trades a week to be happy. Most of us play in leagues where we don't know the other owners personally, so there doesn't have to be a lot of comradery IMO. Where it can get dicey is how the commissioner handles league controveries and how he deals with loop holes in rules that are detrimeental to the league. While it's important to have good rules, sometimes these things happen and it's up to the commissioner to handle it properly. Having said that, as a commissioner, I do wish people would review the rules before asking the same question every year

 

[Gally]

I have never been in a league that has one of these types. Probably because the only meaningful dynasty league I am in is comprised of people I know personally. Friends that I have known for years and that I grew up with. Nobody is leaving unless there are some unforeseen situation that requires it.

I couldn't imagine going in with the attitude of winning and quitting. That is just a terrible person. It's probably why I don't do on line leagues where I don't know anybody. every league I am in is with people I know well. That is most of the fun. Competing with friends.

I am in one zealots league and that is mostly for the purpose of trying stuff out and getting other valuations of players for trades etc in the leagues that matter to me. But I would never dismantle the team and then leave. That is just poor form.

 

[JohnnyU]

I have never been in a league that has one of these types. Probably because the only meaningful dynasty league I am in is comprised of people I know personally. Friends that I have known for years and that I grew up with. Nobody is leaving unless there are some unforeseen situation that requires it.

I couldn't imagine going in with the attitude of winning and quitting. That is just a terrible person. It's probably why I don't do on line leagues where I don't know anybody. every league I am in is with people I know well. That is most of the fun. Competing with friends.

I am in one zealots league and that is mostly for the purpose of trying stuff out and getting other valuations of players for trades etc in the leagues that matter to me. But I would never dismantle the team and then leave. That is just poor form.

I understand that completely. Unfortunately all I play and commish in are online leagues with people I don't know, with the exception of one football league and one baseball league that I do know at least one person personally.

 

[msudaisy26]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

I'd like to think I have thicker skin. Also, for me personally, I don't need a league with 10 trades a week to be happy. Most of us play in leagues where we don't know the other owners personally, so there doesn't have to be a lot of comradery IMO. Where it can get dicey is how the commissioner handles league controveries and how he deals with a loop holes in rules that are detrimeental to the league. While it's important to have good rules, sometimes these things happen and it's up to the commissioner to handle it properly. Having said that, as a commissioner, I do wish people would review the rules before asking the same question every year

I don't need a bunch of trades, but the dynasty I left last year had 14 total trades after the rookie draft in May. My team was a complete rebuild and in a tight end premium league I couldn't get a single 1st roind pick foe Trey McBride.

Thick skin isn't what I am going for. These are 50 to 200 dollar leagues and they are for fun, I am not trying to make this a full time job. If they are no fun I am not staying in the league no matter how good my team is.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

I'd like to think I have thicker skin. Also, for me personally, I don't need a league with 10 trades a week to be happy. Most of us play in leagues where we don't know the other owners personally, so there doesn't have to be a lot of comradery IMO. Where it can get dicey is how the commissioner handles league controveries and how he deals with a loop holes in rules that are detrimeental to the league. While it's important to have good rules, sometimes these things happen and it's up to the commissioner to handle it properly. Having said that, as a commissioner, I do wish people would review the rules before asking the same question every year

I don't need a bunch of trades, but the dynasty I left last year had 14 total trades after the rookie draft in May. My team was a complete rebuild and in a tight end premium league I couldn't get a single 1st roind pick foe Trey McBride.

Thick skin isn't what I am going for. These are 50 to 200 dollar leagues and they are for fun, I am not trying to make this a full time job. If they are no fun I am not staying in the league no matter how good my team is.

So you quit a league because you couldn’t trade McBride for a 1st round pick in a TEP league? I wouldn’t quit a league over that. How much of a premium do TEs score? Is it 2.0 or barely a TEP at 1.25? How many teams in the league? Is it a 10 team league where everyone is set at the position?

 

[msudaisy26]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

I'd like to think I have thicker skin. Also, for me personally, I don't need a league with 10 trades a week to be happy. Most of us play in leagues where we don't know the other owners personally, so there doesn't have to be a lot of comradery IMO. Where it can get dicey is how the commissioner handles league controveries and how he deals with a loop holes in rules that are detrimeental to the league. While it's important to have good rules, sometimes these things happen and it's up to the commissioner to handle it properly. Having said that, as a commissioner, I do wish people would review the rules before asking the same question every year

I don't need a bunch of trades, but the dynasty I left last year had 14 total trades after the rookie draft in May. My team was a complete rebuild and in a tight end premium league I couldn't get a single 1st roind pick foe Trey McBride.

Thick skin isn't what I am going for. These are 50 to 200 dollar leagues and they are for fun, I am not trying to make this a full time job. If they are no fun I am not staying in the league no matter how good my team is.

So you quit a league because you couldn’t trade McBride for a 1st round pick in a TEP league? I wouldn’t quit a league over that. How much of a premium do TEs score? Is it 2.0 or barely a TEP at 1.25? How many teams in the league? Is it a 10 team league where everyone is set at the position?

1.5 ppr, and that was an example and not what I said at all. 14 total trades in seven months between 12 teams. No one talked in chat, trades were sitting unanswered for weeks.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

I'd like to think I have thicker skin. Also, for me personally, I don't need a league with 10 trades a week to be happy. Most of us play in leagues where we don't know the other owners personally, so there doesn't have to be a lot of comradery IMO. Where it can get dicey is how the commissioner handles league controveries and how he deals with a loop holes in rules that are detrimeental to the league. While it's important to have good rules, sometimes these things happen and it's up to the commissioner to handle it properly. Having said that, as a commissioner, I do wish people would review the rules before asking the same question every year

I don't need a bunch of trades, but the dynasty I left last year had 14 total trades after the rookie draft in May. My team was a complete rebuild and in a tight end premium league I couldn't get a single 1st roind pick foe Trey McBride.

Thick skin isn't what I am going for. These are 50 to 200 dollar leagues and they are for fun, I am not trying to make this a full time job. If they are no fun I am not staying in the league no matter how good my team is.

So you quit a league because you couldn’t trade McBride for a 1st round pick in a TEP league? I wouldn’t quit a league over that. How much of a premium do TEs score? Is it 2.0 or barely a TEP at 1.25? How many teams in the league? Is it a 10 team league where everyone is set at the position?

1.5 ppr, and that was an example and not what I said at all. 14 total trades in seven months between 12 teams. No one talked in chat, trades were sitting unanswered for weeks.

14 trades in 7 months isn’t bad. Hell, I’ve seen a lot worse then have a flurry of trades. How good a league is isn’t measured by how many trades it has IMO.

 

[msudaisy26]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

I'd like to think I have thicker skin. Also, for me personally, I don't need a league with 10 trades a week to be happy. Most of us play in leagues where we don't know the other owners personally, so there doesn't have to be a lot of comradery IMO. Where it can get dicey is how the commissioner handles league controveries and how he deals with a loop holes in rules that are detrimeental to the league. While it's important to have good rules, sometimes these things happen and it's up to the commissioner to handle it properly. Having said that, as a commissioner, I do wish people would review the rules before asking the same question every year

I don't need a bunch of trades, but the dynasty I left last year had 14 total trades after the rookie draft in May. My team was a complete rebuild and in a tight end premium league I couldn't get a single 1st roind pick foe Trey McBride.

Thick skin isn't what I am going for. These are 50 to 200 dollar leagues and they are for fun, I am not trying to make this a full time job. If they are no fun I am not staying in the league no matter how good my team is.

So you quit a league because you couldn’t trade McBride for a 1st round pick in a TEP league? I wouldn’t quit a league over that. How much of a premium do TEs score? Is it 2.0 or barely a TEP at 1.25? How many teams in the league? Is it a 10 team league where everyone is set at the position?

1.5 ppr, and that was an example and not what I said at all. 14 total trades in seven months between 12 teams. No one talked in chat, trades were sitting unanswered for weeks.

14 trades in 7 months isn’t bad. Hell, I’ve seen a lot worse then have a flurry of trades. How good a league is isn’t measured by how many trades it has IMO.

Twontrades a month between 12 owners where teams are rebuilding and competing is horrible. Plus you only seem to be reading half the things I post.

 

[Ilov80s]

I like taking over orphaned teams and building them up. To me, that's the most fun.

It is a lot of fun but cerainly not financially sound.

 

[Ilov80s]

To properly safeguard a dynasty league, it seems like there should be some serious thought given to not allowing the trading of draft picks beyond a year away (say new season calendar starts after the NFL SB so this past Feb you could have traded 2025 picks and 2026 picks but 2027 aren't eligible until Feb 2026). I would also want all teams to be paid for 2 seasons at all times. You want to make your rookie picks for the 2025 draft? Then you nee to be paid up for the 2025 and 2026 seasons.

 

[wlwiles]

I've never left a dynasty league, but I'm only in 3 of them. Two of them have the exact same 12 owners, it's just that one league is SF and one (the original) is 1QB. All three leagues have survived > 5 years without anyone quitting.

I don't like joining a league where I don't know anyone at all. Half the fun is trash talking, and when it's strangers you don't know, that's no fun to me

 

[JohnnyU]

I am kind of a hit and run for dynasty. Not where I try to just load up on veterans and win and leave though.

I join the leagues with every intention of staying, but when the league goes stale then I bail. It always happens. I have left loaded teams, aging teams, rebuilding teams, etc.
That or the league starts to get to whiney. I can handle an owner or two that complain, but anymore than that I am out. Everyone knows those owners, they complain about every trade complaining it is unfair or they would have paid more, criticize the players people draft in rookie drafts or get mad when they are trying to trade someone and no one is interested so they flood the league chat.

I'd like to think I have thicker skin. Also, for me personally, I don't need a league with 10 trades a week to be happy. Most of us play in leagues where we don't know the other owners personally, so there doesn't have to be a lot of comradery IMO. Where it can get dicey is how the commissioner handles league controveries and how he deals with a loop holes in rules that are detrimeental to the league. While it's important to have good rules, sometimes these things happen and it's up to the commissioner to handle it properly. Having said that, as a commissioner, I do wish people would review the rules before asking the same question every year

I don't need a bunch of trades, but the dynasty I left last year had 14 total trades after the rookie draft in May. My team was a complete rebuild and in a tight end premium league I couldn't get a single 1st roind pick foe Trey McBride.

Thick skin isn't what I am going for. These are 50 to 200 dollar leagues and they are for fun, I am not trying to make this a full time job. If they are no fun I am not staying in the league no matter how good my team is.

So you quit a league because you couldn’t trade McBride for a 1st round pick in a TEP league? I wouldn’t quit a league over that. How much of a premium do TEs score? Is it 2.0 or barely a TEP at 1.25? How many teams in the league? Is it a 10 team league where everyone is set at the position?

1.5 ppr, and that was an example and not what I said at all. 14 total trades in seven months between 12 teams. No one talked in chat, trades were sitting unanswered for weeks.

14 trades in 7 months isn’t bad. Hell, I’ve seen a lot worse then have a flurry of trades. How good a league is isn’t measured by how many trades it has IMO.

Twontrades a month between 12 owners where teams are rebuilding and competing is horrible. Plus you only seem to be reading half the things I post.

I accept that everyone has differing opinions on what they want from a league. I respect that you want to find leagues that suit you. Also, I’ve been in many of my leagues 20+ years and they go through different phases of activity, even with the owners that have been in the league a long time. I’m personally not bothered by lull periods. I suppose there are other factors for me, such as scoring and format. I like it when a league can evolve over time and not become outdated. I guess that’s why I have taken a liking for DEVY leagues in recent years.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

what do folks call it around here when you’re rebuilding but still trying to compete?

"Tomlin-ing"?

 

[JohnnyU]

what do folks call it around here when you’re rebuilding but still trying to compete?

"Tomlin-ing"?

Reloading

 

[candian fantasy guy]

I have 5 FFPC dynasty leagues, all orphans from various years going back about 5 years. Bought a couple 5 years ago and 3 more 2 years later when I sold my 4 leagues on RTS. They also were all orphans. I enjoy competing and rebuilding. Only 2 ships so far, but my teams are getting closer! Last 2 years in 2 of my SF leagues, I have managed to get the 1.02 twice. I took Daniel’s last year in both when everyone was telling me to take MHjr. This year I turned one of them into Penix in a trade and the other Hampton. My QB position is now solid in both and solid overall, I plan on drafting a bit later in the first round this year! I did buy a turd of a TF league, I am debating on how long I will hang on to this one. This season will decide a lot.

I love dynasty, I barely play redraft anymore.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I haven't left a dynasty league in over 10 years. I have one that I've been in for 20 years and four others are between 8 and 12 years old. I've taken a couple of orphans in the last two years too. I do this mostly for fun with low $$ stakes because I enjoy the game and competition.

I would join another dynasty league but it needs a good commish and dedicated owners. I don't care one bit about number of trades per month or year. I just want to play against competitive owners that manage their teams with waivers and submit their best lineups. I would take on a rebuilder if it's free or low cost for the fun of rebuilding it. I honestly don't see the point in paying $100, for example, to take someone else's mess that would take me likely 3 years and $300 to have a shot at fixing it.

Most trades in the leagues I am in occur just before and during the rookie draft and a few in-season with teams jockeying for playoff spots.

I love redraft leagues too. My favorite league is my redraft auction league. No hoping for a good draft pick or worrying about getting sniped. I can prioritize and bid on any player I'm willing to spend for. It's by far the most fun for me. I wish these leagues were easier to find but most guys I know just want your simple ESPN PPR or Half-PPR snake draft leagues.

 

[menobrown]

what do folks call it around here when you’re rebuilding but still trying to compete?

I don't have a catchy name like Locust or something but a few years ago I heard the Vikings GM, Adofo-Mensah, call it a "competitive rebuild"and I've ran with that phrase ever since.

I have adopted this approach with two older dynasty teams of mine instead of just a total tear down and the results have actually been pretty good but certainly some mistakes were made along the way.

 

[Gatorade]

I took over an orphan last year that had the 1.1 pick and took MHjr with the plan of a complete rebuild. Half way thru the season I realized I was in a weak division and could possible win my division and get my entrance fee back. I traded for Mixon on an expiring contract for an injured Pacheco. I missed the playoffs by one game even though I had beaten the division winner both times H2H . It was worth the gamble even though I will miss out on having Pacheco the next two years. At least I did not have to give a up future pick. If I had just given up, I maybe could have gotten a better pick then #10 out of 16, but it was still worth the try.

 

[spurs44]

Do you take over orphan teams in dynasty for the sole purpose winning and bailiing soon after? Meaning, you like to roster guys who are older and producing now and if they fall off the cliff you just take what you've won and move on to the next league? Are you a dynasty locust? Because in dynasty most owners are building for the future and it's easier to trade picks and young non-producing assets to these teams for producing veterans. While this strategy goes against dynasty philosophy in general, as a commissioner for many years I've seen this more often than you think. I've had to replace a lot of old teams with the cupboard bare once the locust owner strikes.

I'd be interested in knowing how many will admit to this.

I've been fortunate to be in only one league going on 30 years. We have a 15 player roster, we keep 8 players every year. 12 team.league and 8 original owners still playing. We have acquired 4 new owners over the years and we have people who are waiting in line to join our league. It's not that we are special it's just that we have a unique league that you don't see every day. We play standard with a little bit of ppr. We have owners that are engineers, layers, in the movie production business and regular working folks spend throughout the states. Most of still live in Texas though. I couldn't imagine being in a league that you mentioned. Just makes me spit. Lol