20+ MLB players to be suspended? Braun, A-Rod? (1 Viewer)

[Tony Jabroni]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9301536/major-league-baseball-suspend-20-players-including-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-part-miami-investigation

 

[GroveDiesel]

Whoa

 

[Das Boot]

But they all vigorously denied it.

 

[Das Boot]

Oh, and it would be awesome if Roger Clemons' name was in there too.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

:neifi:

 

[Raider Nation]

"The guy who went to that clinic is Ryan K. Braun. I am Ryan J. Braun!"

-Ryan J. Braun's attorney

 

[Tony Jabroni]

100 game suspension looming. Does this have legs?

 

[Righetti]

Nothing would make me happier

 

[Insein]

I could care less.

 

[Raider Nation]

I could care less.

A lot less?

 

[Buckfast 1]

I could care less.

Two of my pivotal fantasy baseball players are on the list. I could care less as well.

 

[Norman Paperman]

100 game suspension looming. Does this have legs?

More so than Oscar Pistorius

 

[got_nugs]

I could care less.

A lot less?

Every.Single.Time

 

[Eephus]

100 game suspension looming. Does this have legs?

Players appealed positive blood tests. The MLBPA will fight suspensions based on this more dubious evidence.

I'll go out on limb to predict they'll negotiate some settlement with lesser suspensions to be served at the beginning of the 2014 season.

 

[Abraham]

100 game suspension looming. Does this have legs?

Players appealed positive blood tests. The MLBPA will fight suspensions based on this more dubious evidence. I'll go out on limb to predict they'll negotiate some settlement with lesser suspensions to be served at the beginning of the 2014 season.

I doubt it. I think MLB is committed to getting this cleaned up, which is why the OTC story is already out. They don't want to suspend the guys; they want to shame them and make them "cheats" for as long as they are in the public eye. They want the penalty to be so severe on so many levels that other players will really start to think about whether it makes sense to cheat.

 

[rodg12]

100 game suspension looming. Does this have legs?

Players appealed positive blood tests. The MLBPA will fight suspensions based on this more dubious evidence.

I'll go out on limb to predict they'll negotiate some settlement with lesser suspensions to be served at the beginning of the 2014 season.

Decent chance they don't serve any suspension. And what are they going to do to Colon/Cabrera...suspend them again for buying the stuff they tested positive for last year?

Bud Selig is an idiot.

 

[mquinnjr]

100 game suspension looming. Does this have legs?

Players appealed positive blood tests. The MLBPA will fight suspensions based on this more dubious evidence.

I'll go out on limb to predict they'll negotiate some settlement with lesser suspensions to be served at the beginning of the 2014 season.

Not at all saying you're wrong on the bolded, as I could definitely see it happening as well.

Selig caving at all on this should serve as the dagger to get him the heck out as commissioner of baseball.

 

[Annyong]

Positive tests should be lifetime bans

 

[Abraham]

Positive tests should be lifetime bans

Agreed. And it should void your contract.

 

[mquinnjr]

100 game suspension looming. Does this have legs?

Players appealed positive blood tests. The MLBPA will fight suspensions based on this more dubious evidence. I'll go out on limb to predict they'll negotiate some settlement with lesser suspensions to be served at the beginning of the 2014 season.

I doubt it. I think MLB is committed to getting this cleaned up, which is why the OTC story is already out. They don't want to suspend the guys; they want to shame them and make them "cheats" for as long as they are in the public eye. They want the penalty to be so severe on so many levels that other players will really start to think about whether it makes sense to cheat.

Without a link to provide, I speculate that the penalties for cheating do not even come close to the potential payoff in MLB. If I am coming up on FA 2-3 years from now, I am absolutely playing the odds of not getting caught and getting a 9 digit contract vs. a 50 game suspension for first offenders. The penalties are not nearly stiff enough, or these guys wouldn't do steroids et. al. banned substances.

 

[rodg12]

Great job, Bud. Way to get the talk back to Steroids PEDs instead of the surplus of great young talent in the game. Release this on the same day ESPN does its huge fantasy draft highlighting that young talent. What a freaking idiot.

 

[mquinnjr]

Positive tests should be lifetime bans

Agreed. And it should void your contract.

This.

 

[Caesar]

Positive tests should be lifetime bans

Agreed. And it should void your contract.

Agreed. And you should have to get a tattoo of a big red D on your chest.

 

[Raider Nation]

Positive tests should be lifetime bans

Agreed. And it should void your contract.

Agreed. And you should have to get a tattoo of a big red D on your chest.

And be forced to watch "Joanie Loves Chachi" reruns 12 hours a day while on suspension.

 

[randall146]

Voiding contracts just gives the teams (and therefore MLB) further incentive to continue to turn a blind eye to PEDs.

Arguably voiding contracts also leads to higher FA contracts, because only the player and not the team suffers the suspension/ban. Higher FA contracts further incentivizes both PEDs and doing whatever it takes not to get caught.

I think for punishments to have any real meaning the teams have to suffer too.

 

[Eephus]

Positive tests should be lifetime bans

Agreed. And it should void your contract.

This.

That's not what the CBA says. They won't get anything greater than the 50/100 suspensions that are in the deal unless Manny or Guillermo Mota are implicated.

 

[rodg12]

And LOL at the ESPN BREAKING NEWS headline. They been trying to ban them for months over this.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Oof. MLB should not let anyone else interview this Bosch character anymore either.

 

[Annyong]

Positive tests should be lifetime bans

 

[Raider Nation]

Anyone think positive tests should be a lifetime ban?

 

[Angry Beavers]

Not sure how you suspend on the testimony of a perp trying to save his own skin with the feds. The MLB players association will have a field day with this.

 

[Whitetail Hunter]

I could care less.

So you're interested.

 

[rodg12]

Not sure how you suspend on the testimony of a perp trying to save his own skin with the feds. The MLB players association will have a field day with this.

This is what MLB does. That's how the Mitchell Report came about with Brian McNamee's' testimony. We all know that resulted in no suspensions.

 

[Abraham]

This is why I'm saying MLB is aiming for a longstanding win in the court of public opinion.

 

[greenroom]

Not sure how you suspend on the testimony of a perp trying to save his own skin with the feds. The MLB players association will have a field day with this.

Even in the story he is doing this to get a benefit. The Attorneys are going to have a field day with this.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

This is why I'm saying MLB is aiming for a longstanding win in the court of public opinion.

They are failing miserably, then.

 

[Abraham]

This is why I'm saying MLB is aiming for a longstanding win in the court of public opinion.

They are failing miserably, then.

Braun and Arod are cheaters. I don't need them suspended to know that.

 

[mquinnjr]

Anyone think positive tests should be a lifetime ban?

Can't stand all the cheating personally.

 

[Raider Nation]

Anyone think positive tests should be a lifetime ban?

Can't stand all the cheating personally.

I was shticking it up because Anny asked that like seven times.

 

[Norman Paperman]

If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

I say let 'em all use.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

This is why I'm saying MLB is aiming for a longstanding win in the court of public opinion.

They are failing miserably, then.

Braun and Arod are cheaters. I don't need them suspended to know that.

Arod is a cheater. Braun was vindicated.

 

[sporthenry]

This is why I'm saying MLB is aiming for a longstanding win in the court of public opinion.

They are failing miserably, then.

Braun and Arod are cheaters. I don't need them suspended to know that.

Arod is a cheater. Braun was vindicated.

Your definition of vindicated must be much different than mine.

 

[Abraham]

Walks like a duck...

He's a cheater. I don't particularly care - my favorite player is Barry bonds. But let's not pretend this is on the up and up.

 

[Raider Nation]

LOL @ "vindicated"

 

[jurrassic]

MLB is dirty. So is the NFL, professional cycling, the Olympics, etc. Time to accept that fact and enjoy the spectacle. Where's all the outrage over Bruce Irvin testing positive?

 

[Annyong]

Let Pete Rose into the HOF

 

[Annyong]

MLB is dirty. So is the NFL, professional cycling, the Olympics, etc. Time to accept that fact and enjoy the spectacle. Where's all the outrage over Bruce Irvin testing positive?

I was outraged. Instead of 8 Busch Lights, I had like 9 or 10 when I heard that. In an angry drinker too.

 

[Eephus]

Let Pete Rose into the HOF

Open daily, year-round, closed only Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day.9 a.m. until 5 p.m.Summer hours, 9 a.m. until 9 p.m. (Memorial Day Weekend through the day before Labor Day)

Adults: $19.50Seniors (65 and older): $12.00Children (7-12): $7.00AAA Member: Adults $17.50, Seniors $10.75, Children $6.25

 

[rodg12]

MLB is dirty. So is the NFL, professional cycling, the Olympics, etc. Time to accept that fact and enjoy the spectacle. Where's all the outrage over Bruce Irvin testing positive?

ETA: I'm not giving the NBA a pass here either. I think their testing program is a joke.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I could care less.

A lot less?

Every.Single.Time