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2007 Rookie Drafts (1 Viewer)

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How do you think they'll go? In a standard start 2 RB league, I'd expect something like:

1. Adrian Peterson

2. Marshawn Lynch

3. Calvin Johnson

4. Brandon Jackson

5. Jamarcus Russell

6. Robert Meachem

7. Dwayne Bowe

8. Chris Henry

9. Brady Quinn

10. Ted Ginn

11. Kenny Irons

12. Greg Olsen

13. Anthony Gonzalez

14. Dwayne Jarrett

15. Sidney Rice

16. Craig Davis

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller

21. John Beck

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Jason Hill

These are not my personal rankings. This is just how I expect most drafts to go.

It looks like there will be a lot of variance in the 10-16 range, as I think there will be a wide range of preferences regarding the guys I have listed there.

 
I doubt Brandon Jackson will go 4th. I play in IDP leagues though so my ranking might be off - personally I think I'd rather pick a WR or QB there.

 
I doubt Brandon Jackson will go 4th. I play in IDP leagues though so my ranking might be off - personally I think I'd rather pick a WR or QB there.
RBs always go high. Jackson looks like the clear #3 RB right now. I'd expect him to go 1.04-1.06 in most leagues.
 
I doubt Brandon Jackson will go 4th. I play in IDP leagues though so my ranking might be off - personally I think I'd rather pick a WR or QB there.
I have 1.4 in one of my dynasty leagues (though trying to trade out of it). But if I stay there, I'm taking Jackson.
 
I think that is a good list. I think Brian Leonard will be a 2nd round pick in most leagues though (even as a FB behind SJax, I think he still gets some involvement in the offense). I'd probably stick him in after Booker. ETA: Particularly in PPR leagues.

 
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Jackson will go 1.04 in most leagues. I think Hunt will crack his way into the end of the 1st though in many leagues, certainly ahead of many of those 2nd rounders.

 
Jackson will go 1.04 in most leagues. I think Hunt will crack his way into the end of the 1st though in many leagues, certainly ahead of many of those 2nd rounders.
I'll be a bit surprised if Hunt goes in the first given his terrible workouts and the presence of Westbrook. But it's possible. At the very least, he could have an ADP in the mid teens.
 
These are not my personal rankings. This is just how I expect most drafts to go.
Ditto...tried to look objectively at a 12 team league, obviously not considering trades or being able to take in to account the individual needs of who drafts in any slot in a specific league...Not surprisingly, top three remain unchanged, although the order could change. I stick with Peterson at the top on potential, but Lynch makes a case with situation and Johnson still does with upside. Although with Johnson opposite ROY...I don't see Rams 99 North happening in Detroit. 1.01 Adrian Peterson, RB MIN1.02 Marshawn Lynch, RB BU1.03 Calvin Johnson, WR DETThe next tier immediately becomes arguable, but one thing I'm pretty solid on is Russell and your next favorite receiver belongs in it b/c there isn't enough talent + opportunity at RB to bump them down further down. It seems like a crowded situation, but NO has a great offensive outlook and at a minimum he eventually passes Henderson to be WR2. Jackson is hardly RB3 with a bullett, but if you're a Morency owner or desperate at RB, he could be 1.04.1.04 Robert Meachem, WR NO1.05 Jamarcus Russell, QB OAK1.06 Brandon Jackson, RB GBNext several picks have the strength of this WR class battling the conventional ff wisdom of RB scarcity despite a mediocre talent concerns compounded by most of the second tier quality backs ending up in bad situations:1.07 Kenny Irons, RB CIN - it's been three excellent, incredibly consistent years for Rudi, but the window closes fastest at RB. Everyone expects Russell and WRs dominate the next group of picks after the top three, but Jackson, Irons and maybe another RB likely will end up going between 1.04 and 1.10 in most drafts. Chris Perry owners who stuck with him through injuries waiting for the payoff must now move to delusions of a Thomas Jones career path. Could see Chris Henry here too, but I wouldn't do it.1.08 Dwayne Bowe, WR KC - definitley a better situation if Trent Green was still there with the confidence of the team. However, ff world has been waiting for KC to add a first round WR. Best talent + opportunity combo of any WR in this draft.1.09 Brady Quinn, QB CLE - as opinions on him vary widely, so will where he goes in drafts. He fell much lower than people expected, but that is what happens with the overexposure guys get. He is still a fabulously prepared first round QB with an great opportunity as soon as this season.1.10 Ted Ginn Jr., WR MIA - I don't like his situation or potential to ever be a WR1, and would struggle pulling the trigger on him in the first round, but can't argue a high first round pick or his potential will see him go in the first in ff drafts. Much more valuable in leagues that count return stats. Personally, I'd go with Gonzalez, Jarrett, or Rice before him..1.11 Anthony Gonzalez, WR IND - if you have talent, WR3 in IND > many WR2 jobs, although I think Harrison will stay around longer than people expect. QBs, and WRs don't age in dog years like RBs. 40 is the new 35. A first round WR in Indy is too appealing to ff to fall too far, esp in ppr leagues.1.12 Greg Olsen, TE CHI - I think Des Clark is underrated and you have to consider the fact Rex is still the QB there, so I'm not sure his situation is as great as some think. Also his grade isn't as high as a Shockey or Winslow to consider earlier, but a first round TE with his measurables and receiving skills usually lands in the first round of ff drafts. 2.01 Chris Henry, RB TEN - I think he's just a workout warrior and has high flop potential, but you can't ignore his NFL measurables and the situation, with LenDale looking more and more like a spin-off of the Ron Dayne story. RB scarcity and people unfamiliar with his collegiate career (or lack thereof) will probably have people reaching higher for him in a lot of drafts, even consideration as RB3 depending on how White's status is spun in the upcoming weeks, but I couldn't do it with all those appealing WRs.2.02 Dwayne Jarrett, WR CAR - potential SOD as the FMW speed stigma follows him, but this guy is more Anquan Boldin than Mike Williams. I struggled putting him this low, but looked at it as Quinn, Olsen, and a RB or two have to fit in. Also not sure about the short and long term QB outlook in Carolina. No arguement with moving him up to late round 1.2.03 Sidney Rice, WR MIN - raw and in crowded situation, but first round talent.2.04 Drew Stanton, QB DET - only b/c of situation.2.05 Tony Hunt, RB PHI - his workouts left his draft value falling almost out of Day One, but his ff value was resuscitated by Andy Reid. The Eagles finally have the compliment to Westbrook they've failed to find. In addition to a TD vulture, the way the offense spreads the ball around and durability concerns with Westbrook make him appealing to even non-Westbrook owners.2.06 Michael Bush, RB OAK - someone will gamble on potential, despite crowded backfield.2.07 Craig Davis WR, SD - surprised on a lot of people they passed on for Davis. Decent prospec, but I don't really see him as a significant improvement than what they already have, unlike what could have been with Jarret or Rice.2.08 Lorenzo Booker, RB MIA - another nice prospect in a bad situation. Interchangeable with the previous three picks depending on preference and need. More valuable if league counts return stats.2.09 Steve Smith, WR NYG - potential steal this far down, and easily exchangeable four or more slots higher.2.10 Zach Miller, TE OAK - easy path to starter and with rookie QB, plenty safety valve/checkdown catches could be start of productive relationship.2.11 John Beck, QB MIA - mostly situation. 2.12 Jacoby Jones, WR TEX - pegged as this year's Colston, but that comparison fails now that Jones went Day One. WR2 in HOU wide open.I like RB Antonio Pittman's potential, but being behind Reggie Bush is a bad situation. Couldn't find room for him. Similarly, despite addition of DJax, I think WR Jason Hill has great potential. Steal if you get him in the third of a fantasy draft. LJ's owners should reach for Kolby Smith as late as possible in the second.IDP could start early second with Patrick Willis. Gaines Adams next probably in the third.
 
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Just tossing this out there (and there will be more), but the DeShawn Wynn pick is bugging me irt Brandon Jackson in GB.

Wynn never did what he was expected to do in Florida, but a bunch of his teammates talk about his practices in terms of awe. That OL wasn't designed for run blocking nor was that offense schemed for a thumper like Wynn. He may find the situation in GB everything that was always missing in Florida. When you add Morencey to the equation, I think there's a whole bunch to shake out there and I'm leery of Brandon so high.

And thanks EBF and TD. Good stuff.

 
Sell pick 4 if you can.
I agree with this; after the first three it looks like a big drop off, on top of that the rest of player's left in the 1st round look to be in the same tier.
I disagree strongly with 1.01 (AP). THere are a number of reports doubting his ability to play a full season in 2007. Depending on the timing of the rookie draft and the information that is forthcoming in the following months, his value changes, but if there was a draft tomorrow I would take AP at 1.03 . . .
 
Tenacious D said:
These are not my personal rankings. This is just how I expect most drafts to go.
Ditto...tried to look objectively at a 12 team league, obviously not considering trades or being able to take in to account the individual needs of who drafts in any slot in a specific league...Not surprisingly, top three remain unchanged, although the order could change. I stick with Peterson at the top on potential, but Lynch makes a case with situation and Johnson still does with upside. Although with Johnson opposite ROY...I don't see Rams 99 North happening in Detroit. 1.01 Adrian Peterson, RB MIN1.02 Marshawn Lynch, RB BU1.03 Calvin Johnson, WR DETThe next tier immediately becomes arguable, but one thing I'm pretty solid on is Russell and your next favorite receiver belongs in it b/c there isn't enough talent + opportunity at RB to bump them down further down. It seems like a crowded situation, but NO has a great offensive outlook and at a minimum he eventually passes Henderson to be WR2. Jackson is hardly RB3 with a bullett, but if you're a Morency owner or desperate at RB, he could be 1.04.1.04 Robert Meachem, WR NO1.05 Jamarcus Russell, QB OAK1.06 Brandon Jackson, RB GBNext several picks have the strength of this WR class battling the conventional ff wisdom of RB scarcity despite a mediocre talent concerns compounded by most of the second tier quality backs ending up in bad situations:1.07 Kenny Irons, RB CIN - it's been three excellent, incredibly consistent years for Rudi, but the window closes fastest at RB. Everyone expects Russell and WRs dominate the next group of picks after the top three, but Jackson, Irons and maybe another RB likely will end up going between 1.04 and 1.10 in most drafts. Chris Perry owners who stuck with him through injuries waiting for the payoff must now move to delusions of a Thomas Jones career path. Could see Chris Henry here too, but I wouldn't do it.1.08 Dwayne Bowe, WR KC - definitley a better situation if Trent Green was still there with the confidence of the team. However, ff world has been waiting for KC to add a first round WR. Best talent + opportunity combo of any WR in this draft.1.09 Brady Quinn, QB CLE - as opinions on him vary widely, so will where he goes in drafts. He fell much lower than people expected, but that is what happens with the overexposure guys get. He is still a fabulously prepared first round QB with an great opportunity as soon as this season.1.10 Ted Ginn Jr., WR MIA - I don't like his situation or potential to ever be a WR1, and would struggle pulling the trigger on him in the first round, but can't argue a high first round pick or his potential will see him go in the first in ff drafts. Much more valuable in leagues that count return stats. Personally, I'd go with Gonzalez, Jarrett, or Rice before him..1.11 Anthony Gonzalez, WR IND - if you have talent, WR3 in IND > many WR2 jobs, although I think Harrison will stay around longer than people expect. QBs, and WRs don't age in dog years like RBs. 40 is the new 35. A first round WR in Indy is too appealing to ff to fall too far, esp in ppr leagues.1.12 Greg Olsen, TE CHI - I think Des Clark is underrated and you have to consider the fact Rex is still the QB there, so I'm not sure his situation is as great as some think. Also his grade isn't as high as a Shockey or Winslow to consider earlier, but a first round TE with his measurables and receiving skills usually lands in the first round of ff drafts. 2.01 Chris Henry, RB TEN - I think he's just a workout warrior and has high flop potential, but you can't ignore his NFL measurables and the situation, with LenDale looking more and more like a spin-off of the Ron Dayne story. RB scarcity and people unfamiliar with his collegiate career (or lack thereof) will probably have people reaching higher for him in a lot of drafts, even consideration as RB3 depending on how White's status is spun in the upcoming weeks, but I couldn't do it with all those appealing WRs.2.02 Dwayne Jarrett, WR CAR - potential SOD as the FMW speed stigma follows him, but this guy is more Anquan Boldin than Mike Williams. I struggled putting him this low, but looked at it as Quinn, Olsen, and a RB or two have to fit in. Also not sure about the short and long term QB outlook in Carolina. No arguement with moving him up to late round 1.2.03 Sidney Rice, WR MIN - raw and in crowded situation, but first round talent.2.04 Drew Stanton, QB DET - only b/c of situation.2.05 Tony Hunt, RB PHI - his workouts left his draft value falling almost out of Day One, but his ff value was resuscitated by Andy Reid. The Eagles finally have the compliment to Westbrook they've failed to find. In addition to a TD vulture, the way the offense spreads the ball around and durability concerns with Westbrook make him appealing to even non-Westbrook owners.2.06 Michael Bush, RB OAK - someone will gamble on potential, despite crowded backfield.2.07 Craig Davis WR, SD - surprised on a lot of people they passed on for Davis. Decent prospec, but I don't really see him as a significant improvement than what they already have, unlike what could have been with Jarret or Rice.2.08 Lorenzo Booker, RB MIA - another nice prospect in a bad situation. Interchangeable with the previous three picks depending on preference and need. More valuable if league counts return stats.2.09 Steve Smith, WR NYG - potential steal this far down, and easily exchangeable four or more slots higher.2.10 Zach Miller, TE OAK - easy path to starter and with rookie QB, plenty safety valve/checkdown catches could be start of productive relationship.2.11 John Beck, QB MIA - mostly situation. 2.12 Jacoby Jones, WR TEX - pegged as this year's Colston, but that comparison fails now that Jones went Day One. WR2 in HOU wide open.I like RB Antonio Pittman's potential, but being behind Reggie Bush is a bad situation. Couldn't find room for him. Similarly, despite addition of DJax, I think WR Jason Hill has great potential. Steal if you get him in the third of a fantasy draft. LJ's owners should reach for Kolby Smith as late as possible in the second.IDP could start early second with Patrick Willis. Gaines Adams next probably in the third.
even with my above dissent, this is an EXCELLENT post . . .
 
1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers

 
1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers
come on, he's not good enough to beat out Floyd and Jackson before playing a single NFL game . . .
 
1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers
come on, he's not good enough to beat out Floyd and Jackson before playing a single NFL game . . .
Um... yeah, he is.
 
1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers
come on, he's not good enough to beat out Floyd and Jackson before playing a single NFL game . . .
Um... yeah, he is.
see you in September . . .
 
NO PPR

4 pts passing TD, 0.04 pts per passing yd, minus 2 pts for interceptions

6 pts rush / rec TD, 0.1 pt per rush / rec yd, minus 2pts for fumbles

1) Adrian Peterson, RB Vikings - Lock

2) Calvin Johnson, WR Lions - Lock

3) Marshawn Lynch, RB Bills - Lock

4) Brandon Jackson, RB Packers

5) Jamarcus Russell, QB Raiders

6) Chris Henry, RB Tenn - bust waiting to happen, but someone will do this

7) Dwayne Bowe, WR Chiefs

8) Kenny Irons, RB Bengals

9) Anthony Gonzalez, WR Colts

10) Robert Meachem, WR Saints

11) Dwayne Jarrett, WR Panthers

12) Lorenzo Booker, RB Dolphins

13) Brady Quinn, QB Browns

14) Ted Ginn Jr, WR Dolphins

15) Michael Bush, RB Raiders

16) Greg Olsen, TE Bears

17) Sydney Rice, WR Vikings

18) Steve Smith, WR Giants

19) Tony Hunt, RB Eagles

20) Craig Davis, WR Chargers

21) Zach Miller, TE Raiders

22) Antonio Pittman, RB Saints

23) Deshawn Wynn, RB Packers

24) John Beck, QB Dolphins

25) Drew Stanton, QB Lions

26) Jacoby Jones, WR Texans

Scoring -

0.5 PPR for WR and TE only.

4 pts passing TD, 0.04 pts per passing yd, minus 2 pts for interceptions

6 pts rush / rec TD, 0.1 pt per rush / rec yd, minus 2pts for fumbles

1) Adrian Peterson, RB Vikings - Lock

2) Calvin Johnson, WR Lions - Lock

3) Marshawn Lynch, RB Bills - Lock

4) Brandon Jackson, RB Packers

5) Jamarcus Russell, QB Raiders

6) Dwayne Bowe, WR Chiefs

7) Anthony Gonzalez, WR Colts

8) Robert Meachem, WR Saints

9) Greg Olsen, TE Bears

10) Dwayne Jarrett, WR Panthers

11) Brady Quinn, QB Browns

12) Ted Ginn Jr, WR Dolphins

13) Chris Henry, RB Tenn - Some idiot will take him higher than this

14) Sydney Rice, WR Vikings

15) Kenny Irons, RB Bengals

16) Lorenzo Booker, RB Dolphins

17) Michael Bush, RB Raiders

18) Steve Smith, WR Giants

19) Craig Davis, WR Chargers

20) Zach Miller, TE Raiders

21) John Beck, QB Dolphins

22) Drew Stanton, QB Lions

23) Tony Hunt, RB Eagles

24) Antonio Pittman, RB Saints

 
In a start 2 QB league, our 1st 3 picks went as follows:

1. A. Peterson

2. C. Johnson

3. M. Lynch

I'm sitting at #4 and I'm definitely glad he went Lynch instead of Russell. I'm going to make my pick tomorrow after seeing if anybody wants to trade up for a shot at Russell, Quinn, B. Jackson or someone else.

 
1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers
come on, he's not good enough to beat out Floyd and Jackson before playing a single NFL game . . .
Um... yeah, he is.
see you in September . . .
cool :ph34r:
 
1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers
come on, he's not good enough to beat out Floyd and Jackson before playing a single NFL game . . .
I think he definitely beats out Floyd but he doesn't have to beat out Jackson. Most Charger fans expect Jackson to be the #1 WR and while I'm not as high on him as they are I can't disagree with that. Parker may have to battle for a starting position with Davis. I think Davis cuts into all their production some though. Parker is better suited as a slot reciever. Floyd hasn't been much more than a situational(short yardage) WR to this point. You don't draft a WR in the first round if you don't expect him to be an every down WR at some point. Parker may be the starter in game #1 but I doubt he's the starter in game #16.
 
1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers
come on, he's not good enough to beat out Floyd and Jackson before playing a single NFL game . . .
I think he definitely beats out Floyd but he doesn't have to beat out Jackson. Most Charger fans expect Jackson to be the #1 WR and while I'm not as high on him as they are I can't disagree with that. Parker may have to battle for a starting position with Davis. I think Davis cuts into all their production some though. Parker is better suited as a slot reciever. Floyd hasn't been much more than a situational(short yardage) WR to this point. You don't draft a WR in the first round if you don't expect him to be an every down WR at some point. Parker may be the starter in game #1 but I doubt he's the starter in game #16.
People have been saying that for the last few years , but he has been lining up outside . . . you admit that Parker may start in game #1, my original point was that the rook does not start Day 1 . . .
 
In a start 2 QB league, our 1st 3 picks went as follows:1. A. Peterson2. C. Johnson3. M. LynchI'm sitting at #4 and I'm definitely glad he went Lynch instead of Russell. I'm going to make my pick tomorrow after seeing if anybody wants to trade up for a shot at Russell, Quinn, B. Jackson or someone else.
I expect more of this as we move forward. Johnson's situation is actually very good. He's got a stable QB, a fantastic offensive mind in Martz, a top notch split end on the other side of the field in Roy who will prevent double coverage, and a nice RB in Jones (or bell). Meanwhile, everybody knew Lynch would probably get a good shot on either Green Bay or Buffalo's offense, so the fact that this played out shouldn't upgrade him above CJ when CJ will have a lot of targets next year. Peterson, CJ, Lynch. That's pretty much the only way to do this, IMO.
 
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1. Calvin Johnson - I think he is the safest, surest pick

2. Adrian Peterson - solid chance at #1, but some may shy due to situation

3. Marshawn Lynch - best situation, maybe a bit overrated due to weak RB class

4. Jamarcus Russell - in dynasty, QBs go high

5. Brandon Jackson - way overrated due to situation

6. Sidney Rice - definite starting WR

7. Ted Ginn - overrated due to draft position

8. Anthony Gonzalez - overrated due to situation

9. Chris Henry

10. Greg Olsen - best TE in class

11. Craig Davis - should start day 1

12. Brady Quinn

13. Robert Meachem - exciting offense

14. Kenny Irons

15. Dwayne Jarrett

16. Dwayne Bowe

17. Drew Stanton

18. Steve Smith

19. Lorenzo Booker

20. Zach Miller - I could see him higher

21. John Beck - I coudl see him higher depending what MIA does

22. Tony Hunt

23. Jacoby Jones

24. Mason - everyone loves rookie kickers
come on, he's not good enough to beat out Floyd and Jackson before playing a single NFL game . . .
I think he definitely beats out Floyd but he doesn't have to beat out Jackson. Most Charger fans expect Jackson to be the #1 WR and while I'm not as high on him as they are I can't disagree with that. Parker may have to battle for a starting position with Davis. I think Davis cuts into all their production some though. Parker is better suited as a slot reciever. Floyd hasn't been much more than a situational(short yardage) WR to this point. You don't draft a WR in the first round if you don't expect him to be an every down WR at some point. Parker may be the starter in game #1 but I doubt he's the starter in game #16.
People have been saying that for the last few years , but he has been lining up outside . . . you admit that Parker may start in game #1, my original point was that the rook does not start Day 1 . . .
I was actually one of the people that resisted that line of thinking up until last year. Last year was the perfect opportunity to step up and be a solid starting WR and imo he really dropped the ball(pun intended). I'm not sure if it's because he regressed last season or the WR's around him are just getting mroe talented but his role is diminishing fast in that offense. He was a nice overacheiver on a team with poor WR's but as SD's group gets better he's looking worse imo and I doubt that he can hold off Davis for very long. We'll see if he's even on the roster in '08. I have my doubts. If Parker isn't in the teams long-term plans I can see them inserting Davis into the lineup early.
 
I fully expect Jackson, Henry, Bush and Irons to move up...a lot... in leagues that are RB heavy minus PPR, while Russell; Quinn and a few of the WR prospects will drop much farther than expected.

 
My board at present (not saying this is how it will go)....

1. Johnson

2. Peterson

3. Lynch

4. Bush

5. Russell

6. Quinn

7. Meachem

8. Bowe

9. Henry

10. Jackson

11. Beck

12. Ginn

 
1.Peterson

2. Lynch

3.CJ

4.Russell

5. Jackson

6.Bowe

7.Rice

8. Bush

9.Jarrett

10.Meachem

11.Gonzales

12.S. Smith

 
I will come back with the rest of my rankings, and an opinion, but if I had the top pick...

1.01 Marshawn Lynch

Improved o-line and best opportunity to succeed. I think that AD will definitely be splitting carries with CT.

 
when is the last time a WR had 40-50% of the first overall 1.1 rookie pick votes ?

I've got the 1.1 in 2 leagues and I will likely go Calvin Johnson in both of them

 
Stealthycat said:
when is the last time a WR had 40-50% of the first overall 1.1 rookie pick votes ?I've got the 1.1 in 2 leagues and I will likely go Calvin Johnson in both of them
Charles Rogers was an overwhelming favorite at 1.01 in 2003. The top RBs in the draft were McGahee coming off a shredded knee in his bowl game and LJ, drafted behind then-stud Priest Holmes. I remember many drafts even went with WR Andre Johnson at 1.02 that year. As they say, caveat emptor... :fishing:
 
Stealthycat said:
when is the last time a WR had 40-50% of the first overall 1.1 rookie pick votes ?I've got the 1.1 in 2 leagues and I will likely go Calvin Johnson in both of them
Charles Rogers was an overwhelming favorite at 1.01 in 2003. The top RBs in the draft were McGahee coming off a shredded knee in his bowl game and LJ, drafted behind then-stud Priest Holmes. I remember many drafts even went with WR Andre Johnson at 1.02 that year. As they say, caveat emptor... :thumbup:
I think "Penn State RBs always bust" was the popular mantra back then.
 
Stealthycat said:
when is the last time a WR had 40-50% of the first overall 1.1 rookie pick votes ?I've got the 1.1 in 2 leagues and I will likely go Calvin Johnson in both of them
Charles Rogers was an overwhelming favorite at 1.01 in 2003. The top RBs in the draft were McGahee coming off a shredded knee in his bowl game and LJ, drafted behind then-stud Priest Holmes. I remember many drafts even went with WR Andre Johnson at 1.02 that year. As they say, caveat emptor... :yes:
I think "Penn State RBs always bust" was the popular mantra back then.
:popcorn: You're quite right...Still, "can't-miss" WRs still scare me at 1.01. I'm sure the risk-reward changes depending on your scoring, but if I had the 1.01, you'd have a VERY hard time talking me out of taking AD. Do top RB prospects bust? Of course - William Green anyone? (paging George Jefferson...please report to this thread). But I'd personally much rather gamble on a RB...
 
2 QB , 2 rb, 4 wr, 2 te league

draft is this sunday .. the mock draft ( what i expect )

1. Peterson

2. Lynch

3. Russell

4. C.Johnson

5. B.Quinn

6. B.Jackson

7..G.Olson

8. M.Bush

9.D.Stanton

10.R.Meecham

11.J.Beck

12.C.Henry

 
Everyone loves to call the owner that might draft Henry an idiot... I beg to differ. 16 team league, dynasty rebuild project, and I have 1.7, 1.11 and 1.16. My only RB is Chester Taylor. I'll go Chris Henry if he's there at 1.7, and I'm not an idiot... or at least I don't think I am. :thumbup:

He is indeed, likely to bust. BUT.... the long shot potential upside is enough to make me cut bait. At 1.11 I can still get one of the second tier WR's. Sometimes a calculated risk pays off. If I believed in Lendale White at all, I would not make that choice, but I think along with some others that White is likely Ron Dayne II.

If I had a reasonably good roster and only one first round pick, no way do I take Henry at 1.7. Given my roster, and having 3 first round picks, I'll bet $2 to win on the long shot.

 
Everyone loves to call the owner that might draft Henry an idiot... I beg to differ. 16 team league, dynasty rebuild project, and I have 1.7, 1.11 and 1.16. My only RB is Chester Taylor. I'll go Chris Henry if he's there at 1.7, and I'm not an idiot... or at least I don't think I am. :hot: He is indeed, likely to bust. BUT.... the long shot potential upside is enough to make me cut bait. At 1.11 I can still get one of the second tier WR's. Sometimes a calculated risk pays off. If I believed in Lendale White at all, I would not make that choice, but I think along with some others that White is likely Ron Dayne II. If I had a reasonably good roster and only one first round pick, no way do I take Henry at 1.7. Given my roster, and having 3 first round picks, I'll bet $2 to win on the long shot.
I'd take LenDale White over Chris Henry any day of the week and twice on Sunday, but anything can happen. :yawn:
 
Everyone loves to call the owner that might draft Henry an idiot... I beg to differ. 16 team league, dynasty rebuild project, and I have 1.7, 1.11 and 1.16. My only RB is Chester Taylor. I'll go Chris Henry if he's there at 1.7, and I'm not an idiot... or at least I don't think I am. :goodposting:
Who do you expect to be gone in those six picks. AD, CJ, ML... and 3? I like Fisher more than most, and in blogging the draft last year, no team impressed me more with the depth of their scouting than Tennessee in the great QB hunt. I was 100% with EBF on draft day. I thought it was just ridiculous like any Pac 10 fan. But the Titans have shared their reasons, and I confess, I am compelled.
 
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