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*** 2010 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread *** (1 Viewer)

mrdawg23 said:
I'm hoping for a Packers victory over the Eagles next week as I'd rather see the Saints/Rams/ Seahawks come to Chicago!
I'd rather see the Saints head to Atlanta and hopefully knock them off. I don't think Packers have as good of a chance, plus I'd rather host the Eagles than the Saints in round 1. While I think the Bears stand some chance going into Atlanta, their best bet to get to the Superbowl is to host 2. There is a small part of me that wants to have seats to the greatest Bears - Packers game of all time as part of that as well. Being the ones that actually get to end the Packers season, and heading to the Superbowl? That would be pretty priceless. But I'm rooting for an easier round 1 matchup and the team with the best chance to beat Atlanta to go there first and foremost. I'm pretty much writing off the Seahawks in the whole thing. If they win the game Saturday, I'd be rooting for the Packers. Getting another shot at them at home with us coming off of a bye rather than them would be the best matchup of course. And they have close to a 0% chance of going into Atlanta and winning which almost eliminates the NFC Championship game being in Chicago.
 
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RBM said:
That Packer D scares the crap out of me....I dont want to see them in the playoffs.
Don't worry. They won't make out of the first round. If they do, we will lay a beating on them at home. I'd love nothing more than to face them again at home. :goodposting:
I dont know man....our line had been looking better but looked completely overmatched yesterday. Thats the only thing that worries me.
 
Devin Hester led NFL with 17.1-yard punt return average, best in season in NFL history

Lovie Smith's Bears are now 63-49, including 3 division titles following his 7th regular season as head coach

Next season at home the Bears will face the Green Bay Packers, the Detroit Lions and the Minnesota Vikings from the NFC North; the Atlanta Falcons and the Carolina Panthers in the NFC South; the Seattle Seahawks from the NFC West, and the Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego Chargers from the AFC West.

On the road, the Bears will face the Packers, Lions and Vikings, as well as the New Orleans Saint and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from the NFC South; the Philadelphia Eagles from the NFC East, and the Denver Broncos and Oakland Raiders from the AFC West.

The dates and times are set to be announced in April.

 
That Packer D scares the crap out of me....I dont want to see them in the playoffs.
Don't worry. They won't make out of the first round. If they do, we will lay a beating on them at home. I'd love nothing more than to face them again at home. :boxing:
I dont know man....our line had been looking better but looked completely overmatched yesterday. Thats the only thing that worries me.
They only seemed "overmatched" when Martz called those 47 step drops. Forte was averaging 6 YPC - if they run the ball more to keep d-linemen honest, the pass blocking will be fine - especially if we hit the shorter drops/routes we were prior to the GB game.
 
Devin Hester led NFL with 17.1-yard punt return average, best in season in NFL historyLovie Smith's Bears are now 63-49, including 3 division titles following his 7th regular season as head coachNext season at home the Bears will face the Green Bay Packers, the Detroit Lions and the Minnesota Vikings from the NFC North; the Atlanta Falcons and the Carolina Panthers in the NFC South; the Seattle Seahawks from the NFC West, and the Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego Chargers from the AFC West.On the road, the Bears will face the Packers, Lions and Vikings, as well as the New Orleans Saint and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from the NFC South; the Philadelphia Eagles from the NFC East, and the Denver Broncos and Oakland Raiders from the AFC West.The dates and times are set to be announced in April.
Hmm...seven 2010 playoff teams next year, plus and improving Lions and Bucs teams. This past season they had a ton of lucky breaks and the timing of playing certain teams with 3rd string QBs starting. I don't see that happening next season. Lovie and his staff going to have to work harder next year to get to 11-5.
 
Great article by Dan Pompei over the game. Big fan of his. My favorite local guy.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...633,full.column



Bears' passing game out of sync in Sunday's loss

Dan Pompei On the NFL

The pressure the Packers put on quarterback Jay Cutler on Sunday wasn't as much about execution failures by Bears blockers as much as it was about problems with hot reads and an out-of-sync passing game.

But make no mistake, the blitz was a big problem for the Bears in Lambeau Field. A review of the tape shows the Packers brought more than four rushers 19 times, and the Bears struggled with Green Bay defensive coordinator Dom Capers' pressure package.

Cutler completed only 44 percent of his attempts against the blitz for an average of 3.1 yards per throw. He was sacked twice on the blitz, had three passes tipped at the line and scrambled once.

What's interesting is Cutler's two worst throws of the game — his interceptions — came on plays when the Packers elected not to blitz. In fact, on the interception with 10 seconds remaining in the game, the Packers were rushing only three.

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The most frequent blitzers were inside linebacker A.J. Hawk with 15 blitzes and cornerback Charles Woodson with 14. Outside linebackers Clay Matthews and Erik Walden each rushed 11 times on blitzes.

Here is what else we learned upon further review.

Grading key: Grades are between 0 and 10 with 0 being complete failure and 10 being perfect.

Offensive line, Grade: 6.5

Not a bad game at all by the offensive line, despite what you may have thought on first blush.

Right tackle J'Marcus Webb held up very well against Matthews, who may be voted defensive player of the year. Webb only had a problem once, that coming in the fourth quarter. Webb was late getting out of his stance, probably because of the crowd noise, and Matthews beat him with a speed rush. But why didn't the coaches give Webb help on a third-and-18 dropback?

Left tackle Frank Omiyale's only problem — a sack to Walden — also came when he was late getting out of his stance because he couldn't hear the snap count.

The run blocking was excellent, especially on outside runs. Right guard Roberto Garza did a nice job with pulls. He even took out two Packers on Forte's 25-yard first-quarter run.

Quarterback, Grade: 1

Cutler wasn't helped much by problems getting the call in from the sideline (one delay of game penalty, three unnecessary timeouts), an overreliance on the pass and receivers who were off.

But Cutler didn't help himself either. He threw two interceptions and the Packers had a chance to intercept four other passes. Inside linebacker Desmond Bishop could have had two and nickel corner Sam Shields could have had two.

He was not as accurate as he has been, maybe because of the cold temperature. The interception that sealed the victory for the Packers was a throw that just sailed on Cutler and went over the head of an open Devin Hester.

Cutler was under quite a bit of pressure, but he brought some of it on himself. On one of Walden's sacks, Cutler held the ball for 5.9 seconds before finally being brought down.

Wide receivers, Grade: 3

Rashied Davis was a reliable fill-in for Earl Bennett, and he was the most productive receiver because of grit and resourcefulness. His lack of playing time showed up when he didn't get enough depth on two third-down routes and came up short despite making catches.

The Packers' physical corners completely took Johnny Knox out of the game. Cutler threw to him eight times and Knox didn't have a single catch. He dropped two of the passes.

Tight ends, Grade: 3

Greg Olsen came to life a little in the fourth quarter, but he didn't have any impact plays. His longest reception of the day was 7 yards, and he dropped an easy one.

Brandon Manumaleuna gave up a sack to Woodson in the fourth quarter.

Running backs, Grade: 9

There wasn't a player on the field who did his job better than Matt Forte. He averaged 6.1 yards per run by running big, running fast and running angry. He got the corner. He didn't go down easily.

He also caught eight passes for 60 yards, including two that were thrown low and behind him.

If the Bears had used him more, they probably would have won the game.

Defensive line, Grade: 7

Pressure was a factor on 11 of Aaron Rodgers' 30 dropbacks, and the Bears used a four-man rush almost exclusively.

Julius Peppers had a second straight quiet game with just one pressure. The Bears' most productive pass rusher was Israel Idonije with four pressures. Corey Wootton continues to progress and had his best performance of the season.

Tommie Harris should thank Idonije for his sack. Harris fell down on the play, struggled to get up, and had Idonije chase Rodgers into his arms.

Anthony Adams graded out the highest among the interior linemen.

Linebackers, Grade: 7.5

Lance Briggs did a nice job of slipping blocks, shooting gaps and making plays. He was a big factor in the Bears' outstanding run defense.

Pisa Tinoisamoa had a couple of rough plays, missing James Starks on what should have been a tackle for a loss and allowing him to run for a 6-yard gain, and then getting tossed at the line on first-and-goal by tight end Donald Lee and being out of position for a 1-yard touchdown pass to Lee.

Safeties, Grade: 5.5

Danieal Manning was late getting over to help Zack Bowman on Greg Jennings' 46-yard catch that set up a fourth-quarter touchdown because he bought Rodgers' look-off to Donald Driver.

Otherwise, the safeties were a factor in limiting big plays in the passing game and stuffing the Green Bay run game.

Cornerbacks, Grade: 7.5

The corners tackled very well and came up with a pair of takeaways — Charles Tillman's interception and Tillman's recovery of a fumble that was forced by D.J. Moore.

The Packers clearly went after Tim Jennings but really couldn't exploit him. They threw his way 11 times and ended up with four completions for 46 yards and a pass interference call for another 6 yards.

Jennings did appear to be beaten on five other occasions, but he benefited from two overthrows and three dropped passes. Plus, he could have been called for a second pass interference but wasn't.

Special teams, Grade: 3

Other than Brad Maynard's punting, there wasn't much to be excited about. And Maynard was outdone by Packers punter Tim Masthay, a first year player who masterfully took Devin Hester out of the game.

The Bears allowed Tramon Williams to return a punt 41 yards when Bowman, filling in for Rashied Davis, was slightly off on his angle and couldn't bring down Williams at the point of the catch.
 
swidman said:
Devin Hester led NFL with 17.1-yard punt return average, best in season in NFL historyLovie Smith's Bears are now 63-49, including 3 division titles following his 7th regular season as head coachNext season at home the Bears will face the Green Bay Packers, the Detroit Lions and the Minnesota Vikings from the NFC North; the Atlanta Falcons and the Carolina Panthers in the NFC South; the Seattle Seahawks from the NFC West, and the Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego Chargers from the AFC West.On the road, the Bears will face the Packers, Lions and Vikings, as well as the New Orleans Saint and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from the NFC South; the Philadelphia Eagles from the NFC East, and the Denver Broncos and Oakland Raiders from the AFC West.The dates and times are set to be announced in April.
Hmm...seven 2010 playoff teams next year, plus and improving Lions and Bucs teams. This past season they had a ton of lucky breaks and the timing of playing certain teams with 3rd string QBs starting. I don't see that happening next season. Lovie and his staff going to have to work harder next year to get to 11-5.
who knows how good and bad these teams will be next year. for example just in the NFC north the vikings were expected to be real good and go back to playoffs with packers, they finished last, the bears were picked by the experts to finish 3rd or 4th in the division they got the #2 seed in the NFC. For the 15th consecutive season, at least 5 teams qualified for playoffs that were not in postseason the year before. its real difficult to know how hard the schedule will be before the season starts, on top of that you still got free agency, the draft and players on the current team and make drastic improvements and regressions.
 
1948 Bears Logo

Bears will have a scout in Philadelphia for Eagles/Packers and 2 scouts in Seattle for Seahawks/Saints.

Olin Kreutz on the playoffs: "You may risk fines that you wouldn't risk in the regular season."

Mike Martz on Matt Forte: "I think in the last 5 games I don't know if there's a back playing any better than he is right now."

Chris Harris finished the regular season with 5 interceptions, the most by any Bears safety under Lovie Smith, the Peppers effect.

 
Looks like the game will be at 1 on Sunday, Seahawks or Philly. Here's hoping for the Seattle and a rematch against the Pack in the championship game. That would be EPIC!

 
flapgreen said:
Looks like the game will be at 1 on Sunday, Seahawks or Philly. Here's hoping for the Seattle and a rematch against the Pack in the championship game. That would be EPIC!
10am where I'll be...VEGAS!
 
Come on Seattle. :lmao:
I don't understand this logic... the SEAHAWKS BEAT the Bears the season; AT HOME. They just came off of a huge upset and have momentum. Why wouldn't you have wanted to play the Packers who you already beat at home this season; especially considering your head coach has a winning record against your division rival?*shakes head*
 
Come on Seattle. :rolleyes:
I don't understand this logic... the SEAHAWKS BEAT the Bears the season; AT HOME. They just came off of a huge upset and have momentum. Why wouldn't you have wanted to play the Packers who you already beat at home this season; especially considering your head coach has a winning record against your division rival?*shakes head*
Because the Packers are a MUCH better team than Seattle. Even though the Bears and Packers can't play until the Championship round.
 
Counting their playoff game against the Saints, the Seahawks are allowing 26 ppg this season

The Seahawks and the Eagles were the only two NFC opponents to score more than 21 points against the Bears this season

The Bears allowed just 16.4 ppg against their 12 NFC opponents in the regular season

The Seahawks went 2-6 on the road this year

Seahawks odds of winning Super Bowl at start of playoffs: 100-1.

Bears 0-for-12 on third down in the first meeting with the Seahawks. That was during the midst of the low point of the season, of course.

Bears Devin Hester had his 2nd punt return for a touchdown this season in the first meeting with Seahawks

Bears lost to Seahawks 23-20 on Oct. 17. Jay Cutler dropped back to pass 47 times and handed the ball off 12 times. Since the bye week the bears have been a balanced team 50/50.

the Bears are 9.5 point favorites over the Seahawks

 
Good article on the team's outlook on Marinelli.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6022612

LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Take a seat and relax.

That was the suggestion of Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith, because it could take him a while to explain Rod Marinelli's impact on the team.

"How much time do you have?" Smith asked when questioned about Marinelli's value.

Promoted to defensive coordinator after spending last year -- his first with the Bears -- as defensive line coach, Marinelli brings an exhaustive focus on fundamentals and an intuitive feel for play calling to a unit that finished 2009 ranked near the bottom of the league in four major categories (23rd in rush defense, 24th in first-downs allowed, 21st in points allowed, 27th on third down).

Defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli has the trust of Lovie Smith, allowing the head coach to focus on other aspects of the team.

The current incarnation of Chicago's defense finished the regular season in the top 10 in all but two statistical categories (20th in passing yards per game and 21st in sacks per pass), and serves as the backbone for a Bears team hosting the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday in the NFC divisional playoffs.

The obvious upgrades in talent can be cited as a major factor in the team's turnaround on defense, but Marinelli's game-day play calling and influence on the team at meetings during the week are arguably more significant.

"I've known Rod a long time," Smith said. "He is one of the best leaders I've been around. Any group, he's comfortable in every environment. But with our football players, what he's done with our defense of just giving them something to stand on. Our beliefs, of course, are the same [in that] you win games first off with fundamentals, getting guys to buy into being a teammate, and doing their job every snap.

"He's allowed me to move to other areas because I trust him so much, whether it's calling plays on game day, motivating the guys on Saturday, or just throughout the week. Everything you're looking for a coach is in him."

Several players talk about Marinelli in meetings rehashing the same subjects over and over again, drilling them exhaustively to the point that most of those things morph to become second nature in game situations.

The players also point to Marinelli's motivational tactics -- he puts together a video to pump up the defense before every game -- and strict adherence to accountability in describing the coach's worth.

"It's exciting, just fun to play for him, man," safety Chris Harris said. "He's one of those guys that treats you like a man. But he does a great job of calling games, by getting a feel for how everything's going. He's an excellent motivator, who really knows what's going on in the game of football, and the fact he holds everyone accountable is one of the biggest assets he's brought to this defense."

NFC Divisional Playoffs

It's up for debate as to whether Marinelli's attributes can carry the Bears through the postseason to the Super Bowl. But in the most clutch of circumstances, it's fundamentals that players lean on to carry them through, which isn't a fact lost among the Bears.

"That's one of the things we pride ourselves on," cornerback Charles Tillman said. "People have been dogging us all year, the last couple of years, [saying] 'Why are you running Cover 2?' All these NFL analysts, [saying] 'It's not a good defense.' But here we are. We're running it, and look where it's gotten us."

Smith was reluctant to provide a rundown of all of Marinelli's positive attributes, saying to do that would diminish the impact the defensive coordinator has made on the Bears. Marinelli, meanwhile, tends to deflect any attention he receives, calling the team -- particularly the defense -- a reflection of Smith.

"We don't have any major ups or downs," Marinelli said. "It's consistency, and it starts at the top. Lovie shows that."

Smith called the defense in 2009, resulting in up-and-down performances, partially because of the coach having to split time between the defense and other areas on the team. With someone Smith has "known forever" and trusts in place such as Marinelli, the head coach can take time covering the entire team instead of focusing solely on one unit.

"When you want to see exactly what a guy is doing and what he means to your program, start talking to the players instead of me," Smith said. "Ask a Julius Peppers what Rod Marinelli has brought to us. Ask a Brian Urlacher or a Charles Tillman. Go down the line and you're going to get the same answers from everyone."
"That's one of the things we pride ourselves on," cornerback Charles Tillman said. "People have been dogging us all year, the last couple of years, [saying] 'Why are you running Cover 2?' All these NFL analysts, [saying] 'It's not a good defense.' But here we are. We're running it, and look where it's gotten us." The players are well aware about what is being said about them. I'm happy about it. It will only motivate them more. :whoosh:

 
I think Forte may be one of the worst starting rb's in the league at this point. He has one of the lowest yards per attempt in the league. I know the O-line isn't good but enough is enough when it comes to blaming the line for everything. In his first season, Forte looked fantastic. He could find a hole when there was none, pound a way for a couple of extra yards. Now, he looks completely lost, like he's given up. He runs straight into his own players. It doesn't even look like he's trying to find an opening anymore, just crumbles as soon as someone hits him. What's wrong with him? What happened to the guy from a couple of years ago? :jawdrop:
You really know your stuff, flap. :)
 
I must say I was one who thought the Bears would fade. Actually, I still do. I doubt their offensive line can keep Cutler up, and I believe that this will be their achilles heal. That said, only a fool or a partisan would deny that yesterday's win was big, and that they appear to have righted their ship. maybe, just maybe Tice has got things worked out there. They are on a nice winning streak right now and to dismiss them as lucky after 12 weeks is not the same as doing so after two or three. At some point one has to tip their hat and acknowledge that their record is some reflection of their ability. Bears fans have a real reason to have their expectations range from cautious optimism to downright excitement. Good for them.

As a Packer fan my hope is that the second Packer/Bear game is relevant for both teams. It has been some time since that was true and it would be a special event.
As much as I dislike the Pack, I would love to see both teams collide in the last game of the year and it mean something, like who gets a first round bye or maybe who gets into the playoffs. Pumped! :jawdrop:
Or the Super Bowl? :)
 
I think Forte may be one of the worst starting rb's in the league at this point. He has one of the lowest yards per attempt in the league. I know the O-line isn't good but enough is enough when it comes to blaming the line for everything. In his first season, Forte looked fantastic. He could find a hole when there was none, pound a way for a couple of extra yards. Now, he looks completely lost, like he's given up. He runs straight into his own players. It doesn't even look like he's trying to find an opening anymore, just crumbles as soon as someone hits him. What's wrong with him? What happened to the guy from a couple of years ago? :rolleyes:
You really know your stuff, flap. :excited:
I was in agreement with all of this. I guess both of us should just watch instead of talk/write.
 
So we let go of Ogun and Brown in the off-season, only to let go of our other starting DE during mid-season and sign a guy who isn't even in the league to replace him. . :excited: :lmao: And we also already released our top 2 picks in the draft from last year because, apparently, they weren't good enough to stay on the team after 1 season(practice squad isn't the team).

A real recipe for success you have going there, Bears. :lmao: :lmao: :bag: :bag: What a bunch of clueless #######s. :rolleyes:
You're pretty bright yourself, Lombardi. :loco:
 
The defense really impressed me. They controlled the line of scrimmage and the defensive backs were all over the receivers all game. They forced a lot of quality pass and catch and the Seahawks couldn't come through.

I can not believe Sunday is happening. This is the biggest game of my Bears fan life. Bigger than any game in 2006 and I am too young for 1985.

 
It was okay to be down on Forte. He had a rough year last year with some nagging issues and no help from the offensive line. Given more of a chance to shine this year, we are seeing what he did his rookie year. As a whole, this team had a long way to go from the offseason to this point. Any fan that wasn't extremely cautious was fooling themselves.

 
By the way, how f'ing awesome was this....

I wanna have his baby. Awesome way to start a game. Can't wait to hear it tomorrow. :angry: Not being from Chicago, I had no idea who the guy was. I actually heard it on the radio while pulling into my driveway and was like, "####! That guy is awesome."

 
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The window for winning a championship with Urlacher is slowly closing. Something has to happen soon or we're in for another long decade.

 
Posting in here, not interested in that game thread or the Cutler threads.

Any fan that wants to crucify Cutler has every right to do so imo. The body language and walking on the sidelines, in what was one of the biggest games in Bear history was beyond horrible.

I was screaming after the Carolina game that Todd Collins should be released. Someone needs to answer to why he was on the roster, let alone the backup. I assume thats Lovie's decision, whomevers, thats another beyond horrible.

Proud of the defense and Hanie, great effort. Nothing short of a miracle that we had a chance to tie that thing with 40 seconds left.

My biggest beef is with Martz. Unacceptable that Bennett and Olsen were invisible until late in the 4th qtr. But most of all, when you put all that other crap that happened behind us, we had a legit chance to tie the game with a minute left, and it was 3rd and 2 and we are coming out of a timeout and we run a freakin end around????? Holy #### are you kidding me? I still cant believe that was real, and those dopey announcers didnt even mention how bad a call that was, and how crucial that was in that spot. Talk about a momentum killer at the worst possible time.

Tough loss, hurts like hell, but proud of most of the team to fight and stay in the game.

What it really showed though, was that the o-line is horrible, we desperately need a big wr (Knox just watched that one INT, didnt even make an effort to break it up), and we could use an inside pass rush.

 
Posting in here, not interested in that game thread or the Cutler threads. Any fan that wants to crucify Cutler has every right to do so imo. The body language and walking on the sidelines, in what was one of the biggest games in Bear history was beyond horrible. I was screaming after the Carolina game that Todd Collins should be released. Someone needs to answer to why he was on the roster, let alone the backup. I assume thats Lovie's decision, whomevers, thats another beyond horrible.Proud of the defense and Hanie, great effort. Nothing short of a miracle that we had a chance to tie that thing with 40 seconds left.My biggest beef is with Martz. Unacceptable that Bennett and Olsen were invisible until late in the 4th qtr. But most of all, when you put all that other crap that happened behind us, we had a legit chance to tie the game with a minute left, and it was 3rd and 2 and we are coming out of a timeout and we run a freakin end around????? Holy #### are you kidding me? I still cant believe that was real, and those dopey announcers didnt even mention how bad a call that was, and how crucial that was in that spot. Talk about a momentum killer at the worst possible time. Tough loss, hurts like hell, but proud of most of the team to fight and stay in the game.What it really showed though, was that the o-line is horrible, we desperately need a big wr (Knox just watched that one INT, didnt even make an effort to break it up), and we could use an inside pass rush.
It's like you are inside my head. We perceive this game exactly the same way. How do they make the decision to put Collins in, yet abandon it for what was obviously the better decision just two series later! You didn't know that Collins sucked until you saw it AGAIN with your own two eyes! Maybe if we play Hanie from the jump, things end differently. I just don't understand why it took those two series to come to the conclusion that Collins gives us no chance to win. How do you not know that already, when I am sitting on my couch in Lindenhurst and I know that he is a waste of time?Agreed completely on the end around. Terrible, terrible call. Let me mention Forte and how hard he played yesterday too. I loved his heart yesterday. Also, why is Urlacher even attempting to "juke" Rodgers on the INT return? Run straight at him, and stiff arm his ### onto his back. To get tripped up by the QB is laughable.
 
Posting in here, not interested in that game thread or the Cutler threads.

Any fan that wants to crucify Cutler has every right to do so imo. The body language and walking on the sidelines, in what was one of the biggest games in Bear history was beyond horrible.

I was screaming after the Carolina game that Todd Collins should be released. Someone needs to answer to why he was on the roster, let alone the backup. I assume thats Lovie's decision, whomevers, thats another beyond horrible.

Proud of the defense and Hanie, great effort. Nothing short of a miracle that we had a chance to tie that thing with 40 seconds left.

My biggest beef is with Martz. Unacceptable that Bennett and Olsen were invisible until late in the 4th qtr. But most of all, when you put all that other crap that happened behind us, we had a legit chance to tie the game with a minute left, and it was 3rd and 2 and we are coming out of a timeout and we run a freakin end around????? Holy #### are you kidding me? I still cant believe that was real, and those dopey announcers didnt even mention how bad a call that was, and how crucial that was in that spot. Talk about a momentum killer at the worst possible time.

Tough loss, hurts like hell, but proud of most of the team to fight and stay in the game.

What it really showed though, was that the o-line is horrible, we desperately need a big wr (Knox just watched that one INT, didnt even make an effort to break it up), and we could use an inside pass rush.
It's like you are inside my head. We perceive this game exactly the same way. How do they make the decision to put Collins in, yet abandon it for what was obviously the better decision just two series later! You didn't know that Collins sucked until you saw it AGAIN with your own two eyes! Maybe if we play Hanie from the jump, things end differently. I just don't understand why it took those two series to come to the conclusion that Collins gives us no chance to win. How do you not know that already, when I am sitting on my couch in Lindenhurst and I know that he is a waste of time?Agreed completely on the end around. Terrible, terrible call.

Let me mention Forte and how hard he played yesterday too. I loved his heart yesterday.

Also, why is Urlacher even attempting to "juke" Rodgers on the INT return? Run straight at him, and stiff arm his ### onto his back. To get tripped up by the QB is laughable.
The second TD was a thing of beauty. Great throw. The throw to Knox to set up the 1st TD was also on the money as well.
 
Let me mention Forte and how hard he played yesterday too. I loved his heart yesterday.
So true....he carried the offense for the most part the 2nd half of the season. Really showed that last year was the abberation and he was really playing hurt. He should be te centerpiece of the offense moving forward.
 
Posting in here, not interested in that game thread or the Cutler threads.

Any fan that wants to crucify Cutler has every right to do so imo. The body language and walking on the sidelines, in what was one of the biggest games in Bear history was beyond horrible.

I was screaming after the Carolina game that Todd Collins should be released. Someone needs to answer to why he was on the roster, let alone the backup. I assume thats Lovie's decision, whomevers, thats another beyond horrible.

Proud of the defense and Hanie, great effort. Nothing short of a miracle that we had a chance to tie that thing with 40 seconds left.

My biggest beef is with Martz. Unacceptable that Bennett and Olsen were invisible until late in the 4th qtr. But most of all, when you put all that other crap that happened behind us, we had a legit chance to tie the game with a minute left, and it was 3rd and 2 and we are coming out of a timeout and we run a freakin end around????? Holy #### are you kidding me? I still cant believe that was real, and those dopey announcers didnt even mention how bad a call that was, and how crucial that was in that spot. Talk about a momentum killer at the worst possible time.

Tough loss, hurts like hell, but proud of most of the team to fight and stay in the game.

What it really showed though, was that the o-line is horrible, we desperately need a big wr (Knox just watched that one INT, didnt even make an effort to break it up), and we could use an inside pass rush.
my thoughts EXACTLY with major emphasis on the bolded. absolutely un####### believable that they had this guy #2 on the depth chart. put him in in the NFC championship game .. wasted some possessions and then immedatiely took him out because he was obviously so friggin awful. why was he on the team at all? after the NYG game, we knew how bad he was. he throws 11 passes for 36 yards and 1 INT. 8.1 passer rating. yet they march him out there again against, carolina, the worst team in the nfl. they leave him out there long enough to throw 16 passes for 32 yards, 4 INTs and a 6.2 passer rating. yet they bump him back up to #2 on the depth chart a little later in the season and march him out there again yesterday in the NFC championship game. he goes 0-4, 0 yards and has his best qb rating of the season at 39.6. what a complete joke.i also thought hanie played quite well especially considering he doesnt get many reps all season cause friggin todd collins was #2 on the depth chart.

lastly, if hanie throws the ball to a wide open devin hester over the middle instead of to forte on the pick-6 by b.j. raji we just might be seeing the bears go to the superbowl ... he was wide open and could have run w that ball.

 
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Just to recap my thoughts, as they are spread out over 3 or 4 threads now:

1) Jay Cutler (who I have been behind since Day 1) is not the QB that the Bears thought they were getting. It's not the injury that gets me. I once tore my MCL and immediately was done, as it kept locking up on me. And this was high school, not the NFL. It's not that he came out. It's the reaction afterwards. It's not grabbing some crutches, a clipboard, and a headset and trying to coach up the 3rd string guy. It's not rooting for your team to come back and showing some emotion. The guy sulked up and sat on the bench like a little kid who just got put in timeout, and I will never get over that.

2) I agree with the above about Todd Collins. I've said since he came that guy sucked butt. It was obvious in the work that he got already this season. He should have been cut a long time ago. I don't have a link, but I remember reading somewhere that he came over on the insistence of Martz. I put that one on him, not Lovie.

3) I also agree with the above discussion about the end around on 3rd and 2. Couldn't believe it at the time, but I was just trying to focus my belief that they could do it and keep the negative thoughts at bay. But yeah. Horrible call.

4) I like that Urlacher and the rest of the team is sticking up for Jay. But where was he when the rest of the team needed his support? We need a guy who fights to get back in the game, and then throws the game winning TD like Stafford did earlier in the season. If he had just shown some kind of passion, he would have shut a lot of people up yesterday, and cemented himself in Bears lore forever. Instead, we get an entire offseason of melodrama about the position we thought we had locked up for the next 10 years.

5) I too couldn't believe Urlacher let Rodgers tackle him. It was obvious with the O doing nothing we needed that score. Great play, but man, run over the opposing QB.

6) The Bears went much farther than I thought they would, and that's the silver lining. I can't imagine a worse possible end to the season, but they still did better than I thought they would. As for what happens, can this finally be the year that they address the offensive line? Please? How many years now have I been waiting? And get at least one elite WR, please.

KTHXBAI

 
Just to recap my thoughts, as they are spread out over 3 or 4 threads now:1) Jay Cutler (who I have been behind since Day 1) is not the QB that the Bears thought they were getting. It's not the injury that gets me. I once tore my MCL and immediately was done, as it kept locking up on me. And this was high school, not the NFL. It's not that he came out. It's the reaction afterwards. It's not grabbing some crutches, a clipboard, and a headset and trying to coach up the 3rd string guy. It's not rooting for your team to come back and showing some emotion. The guy sulked up and sat on the bench like a little kid who just got put in timeout, and I will never get over that.2) I agree with the above about Todd Collins. I've said since he came that guy sucked butt. It was obvious in the work that he got already this season. He should have been cut a long time ago. I don't have a link, but I remember reading somewhere that he came over on the insistence of Martz. I put that one on him, not Lovie.3) I also agree with the above discussion about the end around on 3rd and 2. Couldn't believe it at the time, but I was just trying to focus my belief that they could do it and keep the negative thoughts at bay. But yeah. Horrible call.4) I like that Urlacher and the rest of the team is sticking up for Jay. But where was he when the rest of the team needed his support? We need a guy who fights to get back in the game, and then throws the game winning TD like Stafford did earlier in the season. If he had just shown some kind of passion, he would have shut a lot of people up yesterday, and cemented himself in Bears lore forever. Instead, we get an entire offseason of melodrama about the position we thought we had locked up for the next 10 years.5) I too couldn't believe Urlacher let Rodgers tackle him. It was obvious with the O doing nothing we needed that score. Great play, but man, run over the opposing QB.6) The Bears went much farther than I thought they would, and that's the silver lining. I can't imagine a worse possible end to the season, but they still did better than I thought they would. As for what happens, can this finally be the year that they address the offensive line? Please? How many years now have I been waiting? And get at least one elite WR, please.KTHXBAI
Agree on all points, but I would like to point out that on the Waddle and Silvy show this morning, Haine said Cutler was talking with him on the sidelines and trying to calm him down and coach him up a bit. Hanie was thankful for that. So I know that it's easy to blast Cutler for that (because we did not see it happening) but I always beleive there's more to it than we will ever know.
 
I don't understand why this has become such a huge story. Why do non-Bears fans even care? Makes no sense. :lmao:

 
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Just to recap my thoughts, as they are spread out over 3 or 4 threads now:

1) Jay Cutler (who I have been behind since Day 1) is not the QB that the Bears thought they were getting. It's not the injury that gets me. I once tore my MCL and immediately was done, as it kept locking up on me. And this was high school, not the NFL. It's not that he came out. It's the reaction afterwards. It's not grabbing some crutches, a clipboard, and a headset and trying to coach up the 3rd string guy. It's not rooting for your team to come back and showing some emotion. The guy sulked up and sat on the bench like a little kid who just got put in timeout, and I will never get over that.
Are you saying you couldn't dance or play softball the next day? You must be the biggest #### ever.
 

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