Haha. Each to his own. I think Foster is going to be nothing. Royal (Eddie I assume) is incredibly talented, a great buy low because he was criminally underused and it looks like Marshall may be gone. IF Robinson stays healthy I think he'll be great one day. And the 1.12 will net a high upside WR (there are several good ones coming out) or one of the top QBs.I was thinking the exact opposite.
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2010 Offseason Dynasty Trades (1 Viewer)
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Yep. I just think Foster will get a chance since they like him there and don't believe Royal or L.Robinson will be near what MSW will be. Will always take the better WR over two lesser ones. But can see where u are coming from if u are willing to take the chance on Robinson, just think with B.Gibson/Amendola/Avery/L.Robinson, seems like alot of young WR's and not enough balls to go around and no QB as of now to throw them.Haha. Each to his own. I think Foster is going to be nothing. Royal (Eddie I assume) is incredibly talented, a great buy low because he was criminally underused and it looks like Marshall may be gone. IF Robinson stays healthy I think he'll be great one day. And the 1.12 will net a high upside WR (there are several good ones coming out) or one of the top QBs.I was thinking the exact opposite.
gianmarco
Footballguy
That was actually the trade I was involved in and got the Royal side. To be honest, as I've detailed in another thread re: Royal, I wasn't 100% sold or thrilled with it but I could afford to make a little gamble. I agree it's buying criminally low (compared to his value before the year) and I have a great chance at scoring big. Either way, I thought it was interesting to post considering it's 2 guys with somewhat controversial value (MSW and Royal).
I was going to post that I couldn't decide who got the better end. MSW & Foster's stocks have been hot as of late, but both Royal and LRob are good buy-lows.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I gave up Mike Sims-Walker for a 2011 first-round draft pick. This is a contract and salary cap league and I wasn't going to be able to keep Walker, whose contract was up. So I was somewhat over a barrel but still got pretty good value I thought.
I just made this trade. May over over paid a bit.
gave up
Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB;
Portis, Clinton WAS RB;
Collie, Austin IND WR;
Jackson, DeSean PHI WR;
Jones, Jacoby HOU WR; 2010 2.11
for
Jennings, Rashad JAC RB;
Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB;
Scott, Bernard CIN RB;
Floyd, Malcom SDC WR;
Watson, Ben NEP TE
gave up
Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB;
Portis, Clinton WAS RB;
Collie, Austin IND WR;
Jackson, DeSean PHI WR;
Jones, Jacoby HOU WR; 2010 2.11
for
Jennings, Rashad JAC RB;
Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB;
Scott, Bernard CIN RB;
Floyd, Malcom SDC WR;
Watson, Ben NEP TE
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
While I like Collie and think Jacobs still figures to have some value moving forward, this basically boils down to Jackson for Jones-Drew, so good trade. Seems like a fair trade, anyway.
not so sure what is the "controversial value" for MSW. He is the #1 WR for the Jags and a "decent" one at that. He's most likely not a true STUD like a Roddy/Vjax but more like a steady #1 like a Colston. Not super talented, but good enough. A legit top 15 WR, top25 at worst.Royal is the one that has tons of question marks.
JPeso
Footballguy
Steal. Jacobs has very little PPR value, not much more than a mediocre RB3. Portis' days a FF option are long gone. DeSean is the only piece here you gave of reeal value. Collie and Jacoby are both talented players, but nothing near to make up this value disparity in my eyes. Great deal for you, Lee.
JPeso
Footballguy
I found this deal pretty lopsided in your favor.
JPeso
Footballguy
You stole Maclin.
JPeso
Footballguy
Like the 1st deal a lot. I think I'm ok with the second deal, depending on where the top of the class lands. Pretty big Maclin fan though.
JPeso
Footballguy
Love it even if PPR.
speaking like a true Eddie Royal fan
az_prof
Footballguy
The Question mark in this trade for me is how Royal will be used by McFail going forward. During this off season there was a lot of speculation about who would be benefited/harmed by change in HC and addition of Orton for Cutler. We have now seen: Orton is not an accurate downfield thrower (he is pretty good at short routes) and he likes a big target like Marshall who can jump and fight for the ball. That being said, it IS possible that McFail will do everything he can this coming year to feature Royal just to show that he is the one who makes players and not the player (Marshall). McFail has an unbelievable ego. There is no doubt in my mind that Marshall will be gone either through FA or a trade; so the question becomes what does Denver do at WR and also QB (Orton is a FA also). Those two questions will impact Royals future for at least the next couple of years.I should add that to me the player who is clearly the best pearl in this trade is MSW. But he also has a QB as there is likely a change at HC and QB in Jax--will it help or hurt him? Who knows.This is the kind of trade that I don't like to make this early in the off season because of the degree of uncertainty. I would rather wait until a few months down the road when you at least have had a chance to asses the new Jax HC/OC/QB and the QB/WR situation in Denver.
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Maggot Brain
Footballguy
ppr league with usual scoring
Team A gave up Vincent Jackson and Josh Freeman and
Team B gave up MSW, Stafford and Darren McFadden
Team A gave up Vincent Jackson and Josh Freeman and
Team B gave up MSW, Stafford and Darren McFadden
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Team B wins in a landslide
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Maggot Brain
Footballguy
I thought so as well
broncofan13000
Footballguy
Pulled this trade a couple days ago
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Just sent out this offer:
I give: J.Harrison
For: Shonn Green
Could end up backfiring if Harrison continues to perform like a #1 RB and Green is burried on the Jets depth chart but I figured I would give it a shot.
It's tough to guage Harrison's value. Not sure what I could get for him and want to make sure I don't give him away for nothing because of the way he played the last part of the season. He could be a productive back for Cleveland next year. And with all thier holes you know they wont be drafting a RB early.
I give: J.Harrison
For: Shonn Green
Could end up backfiring if Harrison continues to perform like a #1 RB and Green is burried on the Jets depth chart but I figured I would give it a shot.
It's tough to guage Harrison's value. Not sure what I could get for him and want to make sure I don't give him away for nothing because of the way he played the last part of the season. He could be a productive back for Cleveland next year. And with all thier holes you know they wont be drafting a RB early.
FUBAR
Footballguy
did you have crazy QB depth? Schillins might do alright, I do like his talent, but the other two I'm not valuing highly right now. Schaub can be one of the top 5 QBs. I'm curious as to why you'd do this deal - I have Schaub in one league and wouldn't trade him unless I got a very good WR1 or RB2. But then, I don't have great QBs behind him (Garrard and Orton)
Banger
Footballguy
steal.
a_rackowski
Footballguy
12 team PPREC - made 3 separate trades.
I give Reggie Bush and get Darren Mcfadden.
I give 2nd round and Heyward Bey
I get Clinton Portis
I give Mendenhall
I get Brandon Marshall.
I give Reggie Bush and get Darren Mcfadden.
I give 2nd round and Heyward Bey
I get Clinton Portis
I give Mendenhall
I get Brandon Marshall.
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Spike
Footballguy
Just my opinion, but I think you might have ended up on the short end of all three trades.
WVU Alum
Footballguy
Roethlisberger, Henne, Freeman, and others.
a_rackowski
Footballguy
I respect that - I usually dont put much weight into who is the winner until the season is over. Due to draft position *1.1, 1.2, 1.4* I anticipate that I will find immediate impact at RB, whereas my WRs were pretty weak.
Bush for Mcfadden is a tosss up.
Heyward Bey wouldnt make my final 22 for roster cut down, where as If shanahan commits to Portis, he will make it. 2nd round pick (after supplimental picks in round 1) is about the 23rd pick.
Lastly - I just really needed WRs BAD. I couldnt go another year with the guys who screwed me last year. Marshall is a monster. Pure Animal.
Plus someone always (IMO) has to get the perceived short end and I am usually willing to do that to get the guys I want.
Bush for Mcfadden is a tosss up.
Heyward Bey wouldnt make my final 22 for roster cut down, where as If shanahan commits to Portis, he will make it. 2nd round pick (after supplimental picks in round 1) is about the 23rd pick.
Lastly - I just really needed WRs BAD. I couldnt go another year with the guys who screwed me last year. Marshall is a monster. Pure Animal.
Plus someone always (IMO) has to get the perceived short end and I am usually willing to do that to get the guys I want.
Spike
Footballguy
The issue I had with both the Bush and Portis deals is that you dont know where they will be next year as they're both likely cap casualties. Also, with Portis, he's got lots of miles on him; as part of it, he is seemingly getting hurt more often.With Marshall, though he's a huge talent, we don't know where he will be next year either. Plus, the volatility level is pretty much off the charts.Good luck with the moves, I just don't know about them.
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
How valuable are the late first round picks?I say it a deep draft if u pick in the first, bound to get a high upside player in the top 12, no?
FUBAR
Footballguy
love that deal for you.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
In my league Schaub would have fetched much more value than that. McGahee is splitting carries at best, Schilens is battling for targets on a poor passing team, and Aromashodu has shown promise but is not a lock to be a starting WR (NFL or FF). Schaub is just coming off an amazing year with all his pieces returning. I could see a sell high strategy but this certainly does not qualify.
Spike
Footballguy
If this is a standard rookie draft for a dynasty league then its a great deal for you. Roddy is worth quite a bit more than those picks alone IMHO
Spike
Footballguy
Yes, it is a standard (serpentine) rookie draft. It's a 12 team league.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
bigern1000
Footballguy
Funny -- the other owner in the deal put a posting in the Trades forum in ZFH. I basically commented that, especially with the recent declarations, the first round of the rookie draft is definitely getting better. Of course, it all depends on a number of factors, and the fact that ZFH rookie drafts pretty much begin in early May, so there could be some wild hits or misses since so much may/can change during preseason. But I definitely do not dislike the deal for him, and do like the deal for you especially if Fred plays a significant role next season (with Shanny, even w/ Cooley around, you never know)...
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JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
LOL, a little quick to the gun to say this with certainty, no?MSW was easily Garrards favorite WR right now, but Garrard is not the man of the Future, keep in mind it is a dynasty.Full Disclosure, I was the one to trade Felix. I had other pieces to get and feel that MSW is a high upside, with a very good insight into how he will be used. Felix is a good player, but I also have the 3rd pick to get a rb this year! To my team, MSW has more value to me then Felix. After all I was made fun of for givin up TJones for CJ2K and a first, which turned out to be the 3rd pick.
Trades have to play out to see the value, I was part of another trade last year that sent TO for Ray Rice and a first, lol!Again that was mocked, lol.Lets look back in this thread in a year and see who shakes out, I'm interested in to see how valuble the draft picks get this year as the draft gets deeper and draft time approaches.
FUBAR
Footballguy
You've got to be kidding me, who the #### would make fun of you for completely obliterating the other guy? There was never a time when either of those trades would have been fair - and it wasn't you who would have been mocked.LOL, a little quick to the gun to say this with certainty, no?MSW was easily Garrards favorite WR right now, but Garrard is not the man of the Future, keep in mind it is a dynasty.
Full Disclosure, I was the one to trade Felix. I had other pieces to get and feel that MSW is a high upside, with a very good insight into how he will be used. Felix is a good player, but I also have the 3rd pick to get a rb this year! To my team, MSW has more value to me then Felix. After all I was made fun of for givin up TJones for CJ2K and a first, which turned out to be the 3rd pick.
Trades have to play out to see the value, I was part of another trade last year that sent TO for Ray Rice and a first, lol!
Again that was mocked, lol.
Lets look back in this thread in a year and see who shakes out, I'm interested in to see how valuble the draft picks get this year as the draft gets deeper and draft time approaches.
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JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
2 different leagues, people within the leagues made there posts that I was crazy, u know the routine, lol!You've got to be kidding me, who the #### would make fun of you for completely obliterating the other guy? There was never a time when either of those trades would have been fair - and it wasn't you who would have been mocked.LOL, a little quick to the gun to say this with certainty, no?MSW was easily Garrards favorite WR right now, but Garrard is not the man of the Future, keep in mind it is a dynasty.
Full Disclosure, I was the one to trade Felix. I had other pieces to get and feel that MSW is a high upside, with a very good insight into how he will be used. Felix is a good player, but I also have the 3rd pick to get a rb this year! To my team, MSW has more value to me then Felix. After all I was made fun of for givin up TJones for CJ2K and a first, which turned out to be the 3rd pick.
Trades have to play out to see the value, I was part of another trade last year that sent TO for Ray Rice and a first, lol!
Again that was mocked, lol.
Lets look back in this thread in a year and see who shakes out, I'm interested in to see how valuble the draft picks get this year as the draft gets deeper and draft time approaches.
MAC_32
Footballguy
So far...
Welker, Justin Durant, 1.10, 3.10, and a 2011 3rd for 1.03 and 2011 1st
Working on several others, but not making much headway. Most of the guys I want their current owners won't sell (Flacco, Henne, J Stew, Felix Jones) or they don't fit my team needs. Meaning, I already have too much WR and TE depth and those are the types of guys I can get.
Welker, Justin Durant, 1.10, 3.10, and a 2011 3rd for 1.03 and 2011 1st
Working on several others, but not making much headway. Most of the guys I want their current owners won't sell (Flacco, Henne, J Stew, Felix Jones) or they don't fit my team needs. Meaning, I already have too much WR and TE depth and those are the types of guys I can get.
FUBAR
Footballguy
you should stop playing with idiots.
az_prof
Footballguy
I am not so sure about Felix being clearly better; in fact, I think I would rather have MSW in my league anyway. First, WRs have much longer careers on average than RBs. Second, MSW has already shown he can be a WR1, but Felix, though he looks good in shared duty, has NOT shown that he can be a 250-300 carry guy in the NFL yet. He HAS had injury problems that have sidelined him off and on even in part-time duty.So, while I think Jones is a promising young back, unless you are in a league that starts more RBs than WRs, I think MSW is the better side of this trade. In my league, we can start 2-3 RBs and 3-4 WRs, so you can go 2 RBs and 4 WRs if you want; it is PPR so a top 15 WR puts up a lot of points and is better than a top 20 RB in many cases.Dawg Pound 69 said:
well, this could be the best time of the year to trade. Player values/valuations are still not set, and therefore you can get guys a little cheaper.
In my opinion, can't base these trades solely on the "face" of these deals. There is alot that goes into them imo. Rosters requirements, starting lineups, roster needs and most importantly imo, personal values. Just cause alot of people value MSW more than Felix doestn' mean it is right or vice versa.This is why the offseason is what will win or lose your season for you. If you can get good value to pan out in teh offseason, makes the season a little easier on yourself. If you made some bad decisions, could be a long year.
Endangered Monk
Footballguy
.5 PPR for WR/TE, 12 Team contract league
Gave: Jennings $12/4y + 1.04
Got: DWill RFA + JStewart $16/4 + 2.08
Owner had no interest in Franchising DWill for $71 this year as he wants to make a run at AD.
Gave: Jennings $12/4y + 1.04
Got: DWill RFA + JStewart $16/4 + 2.08
Owner had no interest in Franchising DWill for $71 this year as he wants to make a run at AD.
replacements
Footballguy
Traded away
Peyton Manning,mendenhall and Devin thomas
Recieved
Aaron Rodgers, Eddie Royal
I feel i may have overpaid a bit, but I feel good about haveing Rodgers long term as my qb.
Peyton Manning,mendenhall and Devin thomas
Recieved
Aaron Rodgers, Eddie Royal
I feel i may have overpaid a bit, but I feel good about haveing Rodgers long term as my qb.
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