2010 Pros vs Joes Draft Challenge (1 Viewer)

[darmani]

4 NIGHTS
8 DRAFTS


48 PROS
versus
48 JOES


WHEN?

Monday 7/26 - Thursday 7/29

WHY?

To duke it out again and see who are the pretenders, and who are the contenders in a head to head DraftExperts league. In 2009 a Joe, "Baker Boy" took the overall title, while the Pros won 4 out of 6 league crowns (including David Dodds winning his league). The results were, arguably, inconclusive.

With a year of experience under their belt in this format, the Pros are aiming to beat the Joes at their own game at the FFPC.

WHO?

FOOTBALLGUYS own... David Dodds, Jeff Pasquino, Sigmund Bloom are among the many PROS with 45 other PROS at their side.
Lots of swag on the line. Dodds is offering up 2 2011 Footballguys Players Championship entries to the overall winner and the team with the highest single week score.

ALL THE DETAILS:

Pros vs Joe's Website


The Drafts and Participants:
Monday 9 PM EST, 7/26

Pick 1 - (Joe)-Leonidas' Revenge II
Pick 2 - (Pro)-LeagueSafe
Pick 3 - (Joe)-FISHJITSU
Pick 4 - (Pro)-Fantasy Football Calculator
Pick 5 - (Joe)-PRO BA$HER-BWAZZ
Pick 6 - (Pro)-NoOffSeason
Pick 7 - (Joe)-Skyt 2 Hotty
Pick 8 - (Pro)-FantasyFootballStarters
Pick 9 - (Joe)-SteeltownD
Pick 10 - (Pro)-fantasyfootballmaniaxs
Pick 11 - (Joe)-Syracuse Slappers
Pick 12 - (Pro)-FantasyFootballWhiz


Monday 10 PM EST, 7/26

Pick 1 - (Pro)-DraftGuys (Bloom)
Pick 2 - (Joe)-purestrength
Pick 3 - (Pro)-Fantasy Players Association
Pick 4 - (Joe)-Sudden Birth
Pick 5 - (Pro)-The Huddle
Pick 6 - (Joe)-Roid Rage
Pick 7 - (Pro)-FantasyFootballBrothers
Pick 8 - (Joe)-Glenneration X
Pick 9 - (Pro)-FantasyLion
Pick 10 - (Joe)-Coyote Streakers
Pick 11 - (Pro)-DynastyGuys (Pasquino)
Pick 12 - (Joe)-Sandman's Time



Tuesday 9 PM EST, 7/27

Pick 1 - (Joe)-Boston Dangler
Pick 2 - (Pro)-UsaToday
Pick 3 - (Joe)-Hicksville
Pick 4 - (Pro)-Fantasy Football Oasis
Pick 5 - (Joe)-Day Drinker Josh
Pick 6 - (Pro)-FantasyFootballNerd
Pick 7 - (Joe)-INVICTUS PEAZY
Pick 8 - (Pro)-Fantasy Football Trader
Pick 9 - (Joe)-Pink Panthers
Pick 10 - (Pro)-SwollenDome
Pick 11 - (Joe)-Baker Boy
Pick 12 - (Pro)-Ultimate FF Strategy


Tuesday 10 PM EST, 7/27

Pick 1 - (Pro)-DynastyLeagueFootball
Pick 2 - (Joe)-The Chef
Pick 3 - (Pro)-4for4
Pick 4 - (Joe)-Rex Kwon Do
Pick 5 - (Pro)-The Fantasy Consultant
Pick 6 - (Joe)-Guinness Stingers
Pick 7 - (Pro)-Draft Sharks
Pick 8 - (Joe)-Rochester Rams
Pick 9 - (Pro)-Fantasy Football InDepth
Pick 10 - (Joe)-White Razors
Pick 11 - (Pro)-Walter Football
Pick 12 - (Joe)-Azzurri


Wednesday 9 PM EST, 7/28

Pick 1 - (Joe)-Angry Zygotes
Pick 2 - (Pro)-NFLDraftBible
Pick 3 - (Joe)-RECOVERY BOYS
Pick 4 - (Pro)-RapidDraft
Pick 5 - (Joe)-Bald is Beautiful
Pick 6 - (Pro)-Junkyard Jake
Pick 7 - (Joe)-Northside Day Drinkers
Pick 8 - (Pro)-FoxSports
Pick 9 - (Joe)-MONKEYVILLE
Pick 10 - (Pro)-Rotowire
Pick 11 - (Joe)-W's Marauders
Pick 12 - (Pro)-FantasySharks


Wednesday 10 PM EST, 7/28

Pick 1 - (Pro)-FantasyFreakinFootball
Pick 2 - (Joe)-War Kittens
Pick 3 - (Pro)-Bruno Boys Fantasy Football
Pick 4 - (Joe)-FIERCE!
Pick 5 - (Pro)-365FantasySports
Pick 6 - (Joe)-Spiders From Mars
Pick 7 - (Pro)-YouthFantasyFootball
Pick 8 - (Joe)-Rub Some Dirt On It
Pick 9 - (Pro)-Lester's Legends
Pick 10 - (Joe)-The Color Of Money
Pick 11 - (Pro)-FantasyTailgate
Pick 12 - (Joe)-Number Crunchers


Thursday 9 PM EST, 7/29

Pick 1 - (Joe)-AZRich
Pick 2 - (Pro)-RotoPicks
Pick 3 - (Joe)-Fish
Pick 4 - (Pro)-RotoExperts
Pick 5 - (Joe)-Cinderella Story
Pick 6 - (Pro)-HattyWaiverWireGuru
Pick 7 - (Joe)-NJ Show
Pick 8 - (Pro)-Pigskin Addiction
Pick 9 - (Joe)-Redneck Teabaggers
Pick 10 - (Pro)-KFFL
Pick 11 - (Joe)-Gridiron Irishmen
Pick 12 - (Pro)-FFGuidebook


Thursday 10PM EST, 7/29

Pick 1 - (Pro)-Footballguys (Dodds)
Pick 2 - (Joe)-Sideline Sage
Pick 3 - (Pro)-RookieBlitz
Pick 4 - (Joe)-Spontaneous Combustion
Pick 5 - (Pro)-FantasyPros911
Pick 6 - (Joe)-MONEY INCORPORATED
Pick 7 - (Pro)-FantasyDC
Pick 8 - (Joe)-American Mullet
Pick 9 - (Pro)-FantasyMojo
Pick 10 - (Joe)-Ted's Cracked Head
Pick 11 - (Pro)-BFD Fantasy Football
Pick 12 - (Joe)-Menobrown

 

[darmani]

Is there a reason why the site that drafted this monster and won their division wasn't invited back?

They were invited multiple times to return, but the invites were not reponded to

 

[Team Legacy]

Very pumped for this. I don't believe I've been involved with a more important draft to seperate the men from the boys. We'll be giving away up to 6 Official Fantasy Players Association Jerseys for this contest. Good luck everyone!

 

[Ultima Thule]

OK. I'll ask. How did the Joes get selected?

 

[darmani]

OK. I'll ask. How did the Joes get selected?

Any player at the FFPC who was registered for one of their leagues (or the FPC leagues with Footballguys) was allowed to submit their name in a drawing for 1 of the 48 slots available in this competition. Completely free to enter.

 

[Team Legacy]

Wes Welker expected to be a full participant in camp, unreal! Where do you slot him? Find out tonight as we mock draft our way to prepare for the Pros vs Joes drafts starting Monday night!

No more worries CJ owners, Chris Johnson has agreed to a new contract. We will be following the draft LIVE and be discussing the various values and risks selected. Join our mock tonight!

Go over to Fantasymojo.com, grab a free account, and join the mock before the spots are gone! Take a spot that matches your Pros vs Joes spot if you can. If not grab one that's close and let's prep!

The link to select a draft position in that draft is

Grab your Draft Slot

If you do not already have an account set up at FantasyMojo.com, you will first need to create one, before you will be able to select your draft position.

Here is a link to the registration page :

Register Here

11:00 EST Tonight!

Red vs Blue

 

[darmani]

The first night of drafting in this event is in the books. By the way, for those who are unaware, these drafts follow the same scoring system as the Football Guys Players Championship contest. Roster configuration is the same too (though these drafts are DraftExperts format). But still good to get a feel for some ADP now in this type of scoring.

The viewing is public in these drafts. You can watch them live as they go down.

For those of you who missed it, or don't care to watch live., you can view the results of the drafts at Pros vs Joes Central . Color grids of the results are posted there on the "Draft Results" tab.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Draft was lots of fun... talk about a TE panic!

I was able to sink Team Legacy's battleship by taking a 4th QB, so I got that goin for me.

My team:

QB: Ryan. McNabb, VY, Hasselbeck

RB: CJohnson, JStew, MB3, Sproles, Ringer, Norwood, FTaylor

WR: Rice, 85, Ward, Cotchery, Morgan, Berrian, Tate

TE: Witten, Scheffler

K: Bironas, SeaBass, Lindell

D/ST: CIN, NE, CLE

ETA: Draftmaster format (going for highest total points), Best Ball, lineup is QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/K/D/flex/flex - PPR, 4 pts per pass TD, 1.5 PPR for TE, FG over 31 are 1/10 yardage, D 2 pts per TO, 1 pt per sack.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:

My squad:

QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle Orton

RB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard Weaver

WR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone Bess

TE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel Fells

PK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne Graham

D/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

 

[Captain Hook]

The first night of drafting in this event is in the books. By the way, for those who are unaware, these drafts follow the same scoring system as the Football Guys Players Championship contest. Roster configuration is the same too (though these drafts are DraftExperts format). But still good to get a feel for some ADP now in this type of scoring.

I strongly disagree that these drafts provide reliable ADP for the FBG Player's Championship!Draftmaster/best ball rosters are totally different in how they are put together. The only thing that would be the same would be the league size and the basic scoring system.

 

[Alex - FFPC]

The first night of drafting in this event is in the books. By the way, for those who are unaware, these drafts follow the same scoring system as the Football Guys Players Championship contest. Roster configuration is the same too (though these drafts are DraftExperts format). But still good to get a feel for some ADP now in this type of scoring.

I strongly disagree that these drafts provide reliable ADP for the FBG Player's Championship!Draftmaster/best ball rosters are totally different in how they are put together. The only thing that would be the same would be the league size and the basic scoring system.

Captain, I know that Draft Experts format has different strategies but don't you think that at least the first 5-7 rounds provide some good ADP range? Certainly better than any random mock draft would.

 

[Captain Hook]

The first night of drafting in this event is in the books. By the way, for those who are unaware, these drafts follow the same scoring system as the Football Guys Players Championship contest. Roster configuration is the same too (though these drafts are DraftExperts format). But still good to get a feel for some ADP now in this type of scoring.

I strongly disagree that these drafts provide reliable ADP for the FBG Player's Championship!Draftmaster/best ball rosters are totally different in how they are put together. The only thing that would be the same would be the league size and the basic scoring system.

Captain, I know that Draft Experts format has different strategies but don't you think that at least the first 5-7 rounds provide some good ADP range? Certainly better than any random mock draft would.

Alex - normally I would say the first few rounds would be relevant information but in the small amount I saw last night I saw some possible "team drafting" similar to when there were staff/message board team drafts here. And Yes it may be better than a mock draft, but ADP only has value if it is from real drafts - even lower priced satellite leagues are much better than mock drafts.Draftmaster + best ball scoring however is far different in both resultant rosters and the draft slots than what the FBGPC will be IMO

 

[Alex - FFPC]

Alex - normally I would say the first few rounds would be relevant information but in the small amount I saw last night I saw some possible "team drafting" similar to when there were staff/message board team drafts here. And Yes it may be better than a mock draft, but ADP only has value if it is from real drafts - even lower priced satellite leagues are much better than mock drafts.Draftmaster + best ball scoring however is far different in both resultant rosters and the draft slots than what the FBGPC will be IMO

Not sure about the "team drafting". All Pros vs Joes prizes are awarded to the individual player. Sure, there is a sense of camaraderie between each group but I am 100% certain they are all drafting for themselves, outside of some last round sniping of a last available QB or D/ST.In either case, while the ADPs may not be completely accurate, it's interesting to see the effects of the Dual-flex and 1.5PPR/TE on draft strategy. I bet players who will see the results will raise an eyebrow or two.

 

[darmani]

The first night of drafting in this event is in the books. By the way, for those who are unaware, these drafts follow the same scoring system as the Football Guys Players Championship contest. Roster configuration is the same too (though these drafts are DraftExperts format). But still good to get a feel for some ADP now in this type of scoring.

I strongly disagree that these drafts provide reliable ADP for the FBG Player's Championship!Draftmaster/best ball rosters are totally different in how they are put together. The only thing that would be the same would be the league size and the basic scoring system.

Agreed that you can't take it for straight ADP for FBG Player's championship, but the 1st 5 rounds or so are very telling. On the other hand, the players involved in these are so strong, and such independent thinkers, that ADP, to some extent, is out the window. The "team drafting" you speak of I believe reflects someone drafting Ronnie Brown and then following it up with Ricky Williams, which you wouldn't do in a non-draftmaster's league (typically). But still I think it is plain to see the effect of the 1.5 PPR TE and Dual Flex rostering options.

With so little out there to check out in this format, I think these are valuable FREE draft results.

 

[BassNBrew]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

You're mean.......but that is very funny. I hope you kick some butt Jeff.

 

[Steed]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

Hehe, I was thinking the same thing. Few impact players outside of Calvin and Gates. And what's with carrying 3 defenses (1 of them Detroit?) in a draftmaster? That 3rd efenseive slot would have been nice for a late upside WR.

 

[Reaper]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

Hehe, I was thinking the same thing. Few impact players outside of Calvin and Gates. And what's with carrying 3 defenses (1 of them Detroit?) in a draftmaster? That 3rd efenseive slot would have been nice for a late upside WR.

Heath Miller at TE2 could bring some stats..... Again, you can start 3 TE's...I've done a few money leagues at FFPC and from my drafts ADP:Calvin Johnson 2.2Gates 2.4Grant 3.11M Colston 3.5Benson 5.4H Miller 7.1I got Colston in one draft at 4.3 and I've seen Benson go as low as 6.1.... I think the biggest difference when it comes to the FBG Championship is that STARTING RB's will become much more of a priority, I know, duh. But, I'm not in love with the depth of these RB's either.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

Hehe, I was thinking the same thing. Few impact players outside of Calvin and Gates. And what's with carrying 3 defenses (1 of them Detroit?) in a draftmaster? That 3rd efenseive slot would have been nice for a late upside WR.

I went 3 Ds b/c of the wide variation in week-to-week scoring from defenses. I went 3 Ks b/c of the enhanced kicker scoring (ex 50 yd FG = 5 pts). The point here is to finish #1, I dont think #3 and #10 are functionally different for our purposes. If your #8 RB or WR are scoring for you, then chances are you arent going be #1. A third kicker or D can steal you 5 pts here and there to add to an already strong score assuming you are doing well elsewhere. bolstering WR and RB depth with late picks is for survivor leagues where you are building a firewall from being the low man in a given week. If your top 6-7 RB and WR arent getting it done, then taking a Brian Westbrook or Greg Camarillo with your last pick(s) isnt going to vault you back into contention.

 

[Raskell5]

SyracuseSlappers....League #1 from the 11th hole:

QB: Phillip Rivers, Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow

RB: Michael Turner, Reggie Bush, Justin Forsett, Chester Taylor, Ladanian Tomlinson, Bernard Scott

WR: Randy Moss, Marquis Colston, Percy Harvin, Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Louis Murphy

TE: Tony Gonzalez, Bo Scaife, Marcedes Lewis, Tony Moeaki

K: Feely, Succup, Rackers

D: Ravens, Patriots, Broncos

....Oh, and very well said, Sigmund!!!! That is exactly why you draft 3 D's and 3 K's.

 

[Steed]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

Hehe, I was thinking the same thing. Few impact players outside of Calvin and Gates. And what's with carrying 3 defenses (1 of them Detroit?) in a draftmaster? That 3rd efenseive slot would have been nice for a late upside WR.

I went 3 Ds b/c of the wide variation in week-to-week scoring from defenses. I went 3 Ks b/c of the enhanced kicker scoring (ex 50 yd FG = 5 pts). The point here is to finish #1, I dont think #3 and #10 are functionally different for our purposes. If your #8 RB or WR are scoring for you, then chances are you arent going be #1. A third kicker or D can steal you 5 pts here and there to add to an already strong score assuming you are doing well elsewhere. bolstering WR and RB depth with late picks is for survivor leagues where you are building a firewall from being the low man in a given week. If your top 6-7 RB and WR arent getting it done, then taking a Brian Westbrook or Greg Camarillo with your last pick(s) isnt going to vault you back into contention.

I'm gonna disagree with ya here Bloom. Why can't your #8 WR or #4 TE do the same thing and pick up a few points for you here and there? Did Tony Moeaki or Jimmy Graham get drafted in these leagues? I'll assume Moeaki did since it's so TE heavy. But I'd much rather roll with an upshot guy like Graham than a 3rd def the caliber of Detroit or Cleveland. Especially when you have 2 other solid Ds that you never have to worry about getting hurt and being out like the other positions.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

Hehe, I was thinking the same thing. Few impact players outside of Calvin and Gates. And what's with carrying 3 defenses (1 of them Detroit?) in a draftmaster? That 3rd efenseive slot would have been nice for a late upside WR.

I went 3 Ds b/c of the wide variation in week-to-week scoring from defenses. I went 3 Ks b/c of the enhanced kicker scoring (ex 50 yd FG = 5 pts). The point here is to finish #1, I dont think #3 and #10 are functionally different for our purposes. If your #8 RB or WR are scoring for you, then chances are you arent going be #1. A third kicker or D can steal you 5 pts here and there to add to an already strong score assuming you are doing well elsewhere. bolstering WR and RB depth with late picks is for survivor leagues where you are building a firewall from being the low man in a given week. If your top 6-7 RB and WR arent getting it done, then taking a Brian Westbrook or Greg Camarillo with your last pick(s) isnt going to vault you back into contention.

I'm gonna disagree with ya here Bloom. Why can't your #8 WR or #4 TE do the same thing and pick up a few points for you here and there? Did Tony Moeaki or Jimmy Graham get drafted in these leagues? I'll assume Moeaki did since it's so TE heavy. But I'd much rather roll with an upshot guy like Graham than a 3rd def the caliber of Detroit or Cleveland. Especially when you 2 other solid Ds that you never have to worry about getting hurt and being out like the other positions.

if your #8 WR or #4 TE is scoring that means you shanked some early picks, not a recipe for success - Rookie TEs almost never make big contributions, and by the late rounds of these drafts you are looking at longshots. Draftmasters to me is all about harvesting top 5 QB/TE weeks and top 10 RB/WR/K/D weeks, and I think a #3 D or K is a better bet to get you there than a #8 WR or #4 TE

 

[Captain Hook]

I'm gonna disagree with ya here Bloom. Why can't your #8 WR or #4 TE do the same thing and pick up a few points for you here and there? Did Tony Moeaki or Jimmy Graham get drafted in these leagues? I'll assume Moeaki did since it's so TE heavy. But I'd much rather roll with an upshot guy like Graham than a 3rd def the caliber of Detroit or Cleveland. Especially when you 2 other solid Ds that you never have to worry about getting hurt and being out like the other positions.

Having a third DST and K not only give you more scoring opportunities each week but also very importantly gives you two scores to choose from when one of your K or DST is on Bye - if you only have two you get whatever that is - with two obviously you get the better of the two scores. Remember this is best ball scoring. Top players in this format are ALWAYS going to have three K and three DST and at least three QB

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

You're mean.......but that is very funny. I hope you kick some butt Jeff.

Bass, you're always so supportive. I can understand you not liking my team, but you have to look at how I started (no RBs in first two rounds). I went Gates/Calvin to start that was my choice and my plan drafting from the 11-hole. Stud RB1s were the plans for the first five drafters, so for me to possibly win this thing I'd need to get elite talent at both WR and TE. My plan was WR/TE to start and to have 2RBs by the end of Round 4, but Colston was too good to pass up so I waited longer for RB2. TE can be a killer spot due to 1.5 PPR. WR, RB and TE are the lifeblood of the FPC/FFPC format, but the versatility in a lineup can let a team win with only 2 good RBs, just 1 TE or just 2 WRs. QB, DEF and PK can all be played by committee. I didn't think about 3 PKs, but I could see the value there a little. I figure that Calvin, Colston and 2 of the other WRs will be in my lineup each week. Grant and Benson are solid RBs but not uber-flashy. As for the balance of the RB depth, I either took PPR guys (CTaylor, Faulk) or guys that can put up a good number of TDs (McGahee). Buckhalter did surprisingly well last year in Denver. The last two RBs were Grant insurance in Jackson and then a flyer if LeSean McCoy doesn't pan out.Odds are if this team wins it will be because of WR and TE and it will get just enough from RB to put up two solid scores a week.I agree that the team lacks huge upside guys but with 7 RB/WR/TE starters I wanted the #1 TE and top-end firepower with WR. I'd have preferred Moss but he went early (7th overall).Either way, it was a fun draft.

 

[purestrength]

For what it's worth, I was in League 2 Monday night. Here is my team (going by memory):

QB — P.Manning, Alex Smith, J.Campbell.

RB — A.Peterson (Minn.), DeAngelo Williams, Addai, Hardesty, D.Brown, D.Ward, Julius Jones.

WR — Harvin, Meachem, D.Hester, Gaffney, A.Gonzalez, Lance Moore, Eric Decker, D.Stallworth.

TE — Winslow, Heap, S.Nelson (need Winslow to stay healthy or I might be screwed).

PK — Gould, Feely (probably should have taken a third kicker instead of Stallworth in the 26th round).

D/ST — Dallas, Tampa Bay (at home against Delhomme in the season opener), Seattle (hoping for a couple Golden Tate punt-return TDs).

I'm not real experienced at the Draft Masters format, so I probably f'd up here and there. But it was still a lot of fun going against such formidable opposition.

 

[Team Legacy]

QB - Eli, Flacco, Delhomme, Quinn

RB - MJD, Charles, Greene, TJones, Lynch

WR - SS (nyg), Sims Walker, Wallace, Holmes, Benn, Mike Williams, Douglas, Washington

TE - Zach Miller, Pettigrew, Gresham

PK - Folk, Gano

DST - GB, ATL, HOU, KC

So I took Gresham knowing full well I could land hasselback 4 picks later but bloom sniped me with his 4th qb .

I then took delhome later by mistake. All 3 share same bye so I had to further burden with a 26 round flier in the scrub Quinn. Need a Tampa WR to do something.

 

[Reaper]

For what it's worth, I was in League 2 Monday night. Here is my team (going by memory):QB — P.Manning, Alex Smith, J.Campbell.RB — A.Peterson (Minn.), DeAngelo Williams, Addai, Hardesty, D.Brown, D.Ward, Julius Jones.WR — Harvin, Meachem, D.Hester, Gaffney, A.Gonzalez, Lance Moore, Eric Decker, D.Stallworth.TE — Winslow, Heap, S.Nelson (need Winslow to stay healthy or I might be screwed).PK — Gould, Feely (probably should have taken a third kicker instead of Stallworth in the 26th round).D/ST — Dallas, Tampa Bay (at home against Delhomme in the season opener), Seattle (hoping for a couple Golden Tate punt-return TDs).I'm not real experienced at the Draft Masters format, so I probably f'd up here and there. But it was still a lot of fun going against such formidable opposition.

I like this team a lot...For you FFPC Vets, any opinions?? Obviously weak At TE depth and what I see from these teams is a hard time filling the flex spots which will become even more difficult In FBG challenge when you actually have to pick your 7 core starters each week.But, on this team I see 3 Starting RB's plus depth, a top QB and a deep WR core.

 

[Reaper]

QB - Eli, Flacco, Delhomme, Quinn

RB - MJD, Charles, Greene, TJones, Lynch

WR - SS (nyg), Sims Walker, Wallace, Holmes, Benn, Mike Williams, Douglas, Washington

TE - Zach Miller, Pettigrew, Gresham

PK - Folk, Gano

DST - GB, ATL, HOU, KC

So I took Gresham knowing full well I could land hasselback 4 picks later but bloom sniped me with his 4th qb .

I then took delhome later by mistake. All 3 share same bye so I had to further burden with a 26 round flier in the scrub Quinn. Need a Tampa WR to do something.

Another good looking team But, TL.... Do Bye week matter in this?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Bloom's team is a tough one to catch with the solid start of CJ and then TE/WR, but we'll see how it goes:My squad:QB (3) - Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle OrtonRB (8) - Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Chester Taylor, Willis McGahee, Correll Buckhalter, Kevin Faulk, Brandon Jackson, Leonard WeaverWR (7) - Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Donnie Avery, Kevin Walter, Davone BessTE (3) - Antonio Gates, Heath Miller, Daniel FellsPK (2) - Matt Prater, Shayne GrahamD/ST (3) - DEN, INDY, DET

Wow...looks like Bloom had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks...looks like you missed the beginning of the draft.

You're mean.......but that is very funny. I hope you kick some butt Jeff.

Bass, you're always so supportive. I can understand you not liking my team, but you have to look at how I started (no RBs in first two rounds). I went Gates/Calvin to start that was my choice and my plan drafting from the 11-hole. Stud RB1s were the plans for the first five drafters, so for me to possibly win this thing I'd need to get elite talent at both WR and TE. My plan was WR/TE to start and to have 2RBs by the end of Round 4, but Colston was too good to pass up so I waited longer for RB2. TE can be a killer spot due to 1.5 PPR. WR, RB and TE are the lifeblood of the FPC/FFPC format, but the versatility in a lineup can let a team win with only 2 good RBs, just 1 TE or just 2 WRs. QB, DEF and PK can all be played by committee. I didn't think about 3 PKs, but I could see the value there a little. I figure that Calvin, Colston and 2 of the other WRs will be in my lineup each week. Grant and Benson are solid RBs but not uber-flashy. As for the balance of the RB depth, I either took PPR guys (CTaylor, Faulk) or guys that can put up a good number of TDs (McGahee). Buckhalter did surprisingly well last year in Denver. The last two RBs were Grant insurance in Jackson and then a flyer if LeSean McCoy doesn't pan out.Odds are if this team wins it will be because of WR and TE and it will get just enough from RB to put up two solid scores a week.I agree that the team lacks huge upside guys but with 7 RB/WR/TE starters I wanted the #1 TE and top-end firepower with WR. I'd have preferred Moss but he went early (7th overall).Either way, it was a fun draft.

Ya, I think most people who analyze this won't understand the importance of TE in this format. Gates should have a monster season with no LT and probably no VJ. Still, I think TE is pretty loaded for the first 5 selections and being forced to pick the top one kind of stinks, because the NO. 4 guy could potentially end up No. 1 too. Glad the draft was fun, that's the main thing, looks like you did the best you could.

 

[darmani]

For what it's worth, I was in League 2 Monday night. Here is my team (going by memory):QB — P.Manning, Alex Smith, J.Campbell.RB — A.Peterson (Minn.), DeAngelo Williams, Addai, Hardesty, D.Brown, D.Ward, Julius Jones.WR — Harvin, Meachem, D.Hester, Gaffney, A.Gonzalez, Lance Moore, Eric Decker, D.Stallworth.TE — Winslow, Heap, S.Nelson (need Winslow to stay healthy or I might be screwed).PK — Gould, Feely (probably should have taken a third kicker instead of Stallworth in the 26th round).D/ST — Dallas, Tampa Bay (at home against Delhomme in the season opener), Seattle (hoping for a couple Golden Tate punt-return TDs).I'm not real experienced at the Draft Masters format, so I probably f'd up here and there. But it was still a lot of fun going against such formidable opposition.

I like this team a lot...For you FFPC Vets, any opinions?? Obviously weak At TE depth and what I see from these teams is a hard time filling the flex spots which will become even more difficult In FBG challenge when you actually have to pick your 7 core starters each week.But, on this team I see 3 Starting RB's plus depth, a top QB and a deep WR core.

That WR corps though seemingly deep, seems to be quantity instead of quality. If you look at the draft grid, you'll see he waited until the sixth round to take his first receiver, and went Harvin, Meachem, Hester. None of those three is a consistent performer in my opinion, so there may be some weeks where the WR position comes up small for him. I will be interested to see how this team does. Hindsight is 20/20, but when he chose to take Addai in the 5th as his 3rd RB (with two strong options of AP and DWill already in hand), Maclin/Crabtree/Welker and Bowe were still available. Someone in his WR crew is really going to have to exceed expectations I think, but at least he has those types of guys there.

 

[purestrength]

For what it's worth, I was in League 2 Monday night. Here is my team (going by memory):QB — P.Manning, Alex Smith, J.Campbell.RB — A.Peterson (Minn.), DeAngelo Williams, Addai, Hardesty, D.Brown, D.Ward, Julius Jones.WR — Harvin, Meachem, D.Hester, Gaffney, A.Gonzalez, Lance Moore, Eric Decker, D.Stallworth.TE — Winslow, Heap, S.Nelson (need Winslow to stay healthy or I might be screwed).PK — Gould, Feely (probably should have taken a third kicker instead of Stallworth in the 26th round).D/ST — Dallas, Tampa Bay (at home against Delhomme in the season opener), Seattle (hoping for a couple Golden Tate punt-return TDs).I'm not real experienced at the Draft Masters format, so I probably f'd up here and there. But it was still a lot of fun going against such formidable opposition.

I like this team a lot...For you FFPC Vets, any opinions?? Obviously weak At TE depth and what I see from these teams is a hard time filling the flex spots which will become even more difficult In FBG challenge when you actually have to pick your 7 core starters each week.But, on this team I see 3 Starting RB's plus depth, a top QB and a deep WR core.

That WR corps though seemingly deep, seems to be quantity instead of quality. If you look at the draft grid, you'll see he waited until the sixth round to take his first receiver, and went Harvin, Meachem, Hester. None of those three is a consistent performer in my opinion, so there may be some weeks where the WR position comes up small for him. I will be interested to see how this team does. Hindsight is 20/20, but when he chose to take Addai in the 5th as his 3rd RB (with two strong options of AP and DWill already in hand), Maclin/Crabtree/Welker and Bowe were still available. Someone in his WR crew is really going to have to exceed expectations I think, but at least he has those types of guys there.

Thanks for the opinions, guys. As for Addai, I figured he was too good to pass up in the fifth round. Plus, I got D.Brown later. So unless Mike Hart emerges as the Colts' starting RB, I think I struck gold with those picks.For the record, I like Addai MUCH MORE than Maclin, Crabtree and Welker and a little more than Bowe in FPC for this season. And we can start as many as four RBs in this format. Obviously, I'm hoping for three borderline-studly RB totals most weeks. We'll see.Yeah, I probably should have taken a TE sooner somewhere. Live and learn, I guess.

 

[Captain Hook]

For what it's worth, I was in League 2 Monday night. Here is my team (going by memory):QB — P.Manning, Alex Smith, J.Campbell.RB — A.Peterson (Minn.), DeAngelo Williams, Addai, Hardesty, D.Brown, D.Ward, Julius Jones.WR — Harvin, Meachem, D.Hester, Gaffney, A.Gonzalez, Lance Moore, Eric Decker, D.Stallworth.TE — Winslow, Heap, S.Nelson (need Winslow to stay healthy or I might be screwed).PK — Gould, Feely (probably should have taken a third kicker instead of Stallworth in the 26th round).D/ST — Dallas, Tampa Bay (at home against Delhomme in the season opener), Seattle (hoping for a couple Golden Tate punt-return TDs).I'm not real experienced at the Draft Masters format, so I probably f'd up here and there. But it was still a lot of fun going against such formidable opposition.

I like this team a lot...For you FFPC Vets, any opinions?? Obviously weak At TE depth and what I see from these teams is a hard time filling the flex spots which will become even more difficult In FBG challenge when you actually have to pick your 7 core starters each week.But, on this team I see 3 Starting RB's plus depth, a top QB and a deep WR core.

Fiddles - it is best ball in draftmasters so he doesn't have to worry about it - yes in the FBG PC you would have to pick your starters correctlyTE depth more important in Draftmasters contests BUT not vital - he will be okay as long as KWIII is healthy all yearHe should have added a third kickerand in reference to your bye week question about TL's team. the answer is Yes and No - it is a total points contest, so one or two bad weeks for any reason are certainly covered by being at full strength other weeks or just having a very high scoring team - doesn't mean I would want a team to look like that out of the draft but it is not a killer (might have been for Scott having to pick a fourth QB with his last pick LOL)

 

[purestrength]

Check out League 6 here. Interesting results.

http://leagues.myffpc.com/football/footbal...G=1&X=89519

Andre Johnson at 8 seems like a rarely seen bargain.

Portis in the fourth round is, well, interesting.

 

[Reaper]

Check out League 6 here. Interesting results.

http://leagues.myffpc.com/football/footbal...G=1&X=89519

Andre Johnson at 8 seems like a rarely seen bargain.

Portis in the fourth round is, well, interesting.

I looked at the draft for 10 seconds so far and what stands out to me is 365Fantasysports....

He grabbed Brees in round 1 when QB's have gone real late form what I've seen - I drafted Tom Brady in round 6 in one of these... Even in this one I'd rather have Rivers or Schaub in round 5/6 than Brees in round 1.... Even the drafts above have Brees in round 3 or 4.....

Then Shonn Greene looks like a reach in round 2... Ditto on Benson in round 3, I already stated I've seen Benson in round 6.

I could go on but, right off the bat it looks to me like this team was winging it.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Check out League 6 here. Interesting results.

http://leagues.myffpc.com/football/footbal...G=1&X=89519

Andre Johnson at 8 seems like a rarely seen bargain.

Portis in the fourth round is, well, interesting.

I looked at the draft for 10 seconds so far and what stands out to me is 365Fantasysports....

He grabbed Brees in round 1 when QB's have gone real late form what I've seen - I drafted Tom Brady in round 6 in one of these... Even in this one I'd rather have Rivers or Schaub in round 5/6 than Brees in round 1.... Even the drafts above have Brees in round 3 or 4.....

Then Shonn Greene looks like a reach in round 2... Ditto on Benson in round 3, I already stated I've seen Benson in round 6.

I could go on but, right off the bat it looks to me like this team was winging it.

Agreed. I landed Brees at 3.08 in League 3's draft.

 

[Reaper]

Dodd's Team from league 8.. I was a bit surprised after all those Perfect Draft articles to see Dodds go QB early and then grab even more QB's..... In this Best Ball format I'd think the Perfect Draft QB style would fit even more where you could grab 3 QB's past round 9 and be in pretty good shape.

IMO, he has a lot of risk at RB 2/3 where you could start 4 RB's.... I was looking at Deangelo Williams or Ryan Grant at that Rodgers spot but, this team is certainly has an advantage at QB...

Interesting draft last night overall.....

QB Aaron Rodgers

QB Eli Manning

QB Brett Favre

RB Chris Johnson

RB Joseph Addai

RB Clinton Portis

RB Jerome Harrison

RB Leonard Weaver

WR Chad Ochocinco

WR Jerricho Cotchery

WR Mike Thomas

WR Devin Thomas

WR Mario Manningham

WR Josh Cribbs

WR Brian Hartline

WR Michael Jenkins

WR Brian Robiskie

WR Harry Douglas

TE Vernon Davis

TE Heath Miller

TE Visanthe Shiancoe

TE Daniel Fells

PK Garrett Hartley

PK Josh Scobee

Def Baltimore

Def Indianapolis

 

[Reaper]

* BTW.... FFPC has a $77.00 version of this league LIVE draft Monday night 9:00PM...

I'm signing up right now and 8 teams are left... Good practice with the software and many of these same drafters.

Sign Ups

 

[David Dodds]

Dodd's Team from league 8.. I was a bit surprised after all those Perfect Draft articles to see Dodds go QB early and then grab even more QB's..... In this Best Ball format I'd think the Perfect Draft QB style would fit even more where you could grab 3 QB's past round 9 and be in pretty good shape. IMO, he has a lot of risk at RB 2/3 where you could start 4 RB's.... I was looking at Deangelo Williams or Ryan Grant at that Rodgers spot but, this team is certainly has an advantage at QB...Interesting draft last night overall.....QB Aaron RodgersQB Eli ManningQB Brett FavreRB Chris JohnsonRB Joseph AddaiRB Clinton PortisRB Jerome HarrisonRB Leonard WeaverWR Chad OchocincoWR Jerricho CotcheryWR Mike ThomasWR Devin ThomasWR Mario ManninghamWR Josh CribbsWR Brian HartlineWR Michael JenkinsWR Brian RobiskieWR Harry DouglasTE Vernon DavisTE Heath MillerTE Visanthe ShiancoeTE Daniel FellsPK Garrett HartleyPK Josh ScobeeDef BaltimoreDef Indianapolis

Drafting from the 1 spot, I had hoped to land one of the big WRs and Jermichael Finley at the 2/3 turn. Both were gone here. So I took Aaron Rodgers and the next available TE. I knew both were semi-reaches, but if TEs continued to fly off the board, I wanted to ensure I had at least one good one. Value was at QB all night and that sucked because I took Rodgers early compounding the problem. In the 10th/11th, I opted to take Eli and Favre figuring it would start the run. It did. I drafted Ochocinco in the 4th, but then got the rest of these WRs in rounds 12 on. In a best ball format though, I just need some good games from time to time on one of my ten WRs. I think most of my WRs will score from 4-6 TDs so that should happen. I expect with the 1.5 PPR for TEs that I will be playing 2 to 3 TEs on most weeks since that is a big strength on this team. A lot rides on Chris Johnson for me here. If he is a stud again and anchors the RB slot down (and stays healthy all year), I think my QBs and TEs will mask my "perceived" holes at wide receiver.

 

[Reaper]

Dodd's Team from league 8.. I was a bit surprised after all those Perfect Draft articles to see Dodds go QB early and then grab even more QB's..... In this Best Ball format I'd think the Perfect Draft QB style would fit even more where you could grab 3 QB's past round 9 and be in pretty good shape. IMO, he has a lot of risk at RB 2/3 where you could start 4 RB's.... I was looking at Deangelo Williams or Ryan Grant at that Rodgers spot but, this team is certainly has an advantage at QB...Interesting draft last night overall.....QB Aaron RodgersQB Eli ManningQB Brett FavreRB Chris JohnsonRB Joseph AddaiRB Clinton PortisRB Jerome HarrisonRB Leonard WeaverWR Chad OchocincoWR Jerricho CotcheryWR Mike ThomasWR Devin ThomasWR Mario ManninghamWR Josh CribbsWR Brian HartlineWR Michael JenkinsWR Brian RobiskieWR Harry DouglasTE Vernon DavisTE Heath MillerTE Visanthe ShiancoeTE Daniel FellsPK Garrett HartleyPK Josh ScobeeDef BaltimoreDef Indianapolis

Drafting from the 1 spot, I had hoped to land one of the big WRs and Jermichael Finley at the 2/3 turn. Both were gone here. So I took Aaron Rodgers and the next available TE. I knew both were semi-reaches, but if TEs continued to fly off the board, I wanted to ensure I had at least one good one. Value was at QB all night and that sucked because I took Rodgers early compounding the problem. In the 10th/11th, I opted to take Eli and Favre figuring it would start the run. It did. I drafted Ochocinco in the 4th, but then got the rest of these WRs in rounds 12 on. In a best ball format though, I just need some good games from time to time on one of my ten WRs. I think most of my WRs will score from 4-6 TDs so that should happen. I expect with the 1.5 PPR for TEs that I will be playing 2 to 3 TEs on most weeks since that is a big strength on this team. A lot rides on Chris Johnson for me here. If he is a stud again and anchors the RB slot down (and stays healthy all year), I think my QBs and TEs will mask my "perceived" holes at wide receiver.

Cool - I was watching that draft live - looked like fun, wish I signed up.I had you pegged for a 2nd tier RB and TE at the turn.....

 

[darmani]

I had you pegged for a 2nd tier RB and TE at the turn.....

Actually, even if you haven't drafted, you can still participate to some extent.We put together a "Pick the Pros vs Joes Winners" contest that ANYONE can join.

This is only open thru August 3rd (next Tuesday) though.

You just need to be registered on the FFPC boards, and make your picks there.

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There's a $150 first place and $77 second place offering in this.

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