2012 Free Agent QBs (1 Viewer)

[spodog]

Peyton (IND) - pending upcoming Isray decisionDrew Brees (NO)Matt Flynn (GB)Alex Smith (SF)Donovan McNabb (MIN)Jason Campbell (OAK)Kyle Orton (KC)Rex Grossman (WAS)Chris Redman (ATL)Derek Anderson (CAR)Caleb Hanie (CHI)Josh McCown (CHI)Shaun Hill (DET)Drew Stanton (DET)Brady Quinn (DEN)David Garrard (FA)Chad Pennington (FA)Jake Delhomme (HOU)Jeff Garcia (HOU)Dan Orlovsky (IND)Luke McCown (JAC)Chad Henne (MIA)JP Losman (MIA)Sage Rosenfels (MIA)David Carr (NYG)Mark Brunell (NYJ)Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)Kyle Boller (OAK)Vince Young (PHI)Charlie Batch (PIT)Dennis Dixon (PIT)Byron Leftwich (PIT)Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)Kellen Clemens (STL)A.J. Feeley (STL)Josh Johnson (TB)Richard Bartel (ARZ) - RestrictedMax Hall (ARZ) - Exclusive RightsTyler Palko (KC) - RestrictedBrian Hoyer (NE) - RestrictedChase Daniel (NO) - Restricted

So I'm looking at this lengthy list and it makes my eyes hurt its so bad. I can only draw the following conclusions:1. Matt Flynn is about to get overpaid. Waaaaay overpaid. 2. Luck and RG III will easily go 1-2 in the draft. Could we see guys like Tannehill and even Weeden move into the bottom of the 1st because of this?3. Peyton's getting paid (probably waaaay overpaid as well) one way or the other, even without a legit doctor's note 4. Even guys like Orton and Alex Smith are likely to get overpaid this year. How did this get so bad? Are colleges really doing this poor of a job preparing guys to play QB at the next level?

 

[Bankerguy]

Peyton (IND) - pending upcoming Isray decisionDrew Brees (NO)Matt Flynn (GB)Alex Smith (SF)Donovan McNabb (MIN)Jason Campbell (OAK)Kyle Orton (KC)Rex Grossman (WAS)Chris Redman (ATL)Derek Anderson (CAR)Caleb Hanie (CHI)Josh McCown (CHI)Shaun Hill (DET)Drew Stanton (DET)Brady Quinn (DEN)David Garrard (FA)Chad Pennington (FA)Jake Delhomme (HOU)Jeff Garcia (HOU)Dan Orlovsky (IND)Luke McCown (JAC)Chad Henne (MIA)JP Losman (MIA)Sage Rosenfels (MIA)David Carr (NYG)Mark Brunell (NYJ)Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)Kyle Boller (OAK)Vince Young (PHI)Charlie Batch (PIT)Dennis Dixon (PIT)Byron Leftwich (PIT)Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)Kellen Clemens (STL)A.J. Feeley (STL)Josh Johnson (TB)Richard Bartel (ARZ) - RestrictedMax Hall (ARZ) - Exclusive RightsTyler Palko (KC) - RestrictedBrian Hoyer (NE) - RestrictedChase Daniel (NO) - Restricted

So I'm looking at this lengthy list and it makes my eyes hurt its so bad. I can only draw the following conclusions:1. Matt Flynn is about to get overpaid. Waaaaay overpaid. 2. Luck and RG III will easily go 1-2 in the draft. Could we see guys like Tannehill and even Weeden move into the bottom of the 1st because of this?3. Peyton's getting paid (probably waaaay overpaid as well) one way or the other, even without a legit doctor's note 4. Even guys like Orton and Alex Smith are likely to get overpaid this year. How did this get so bad? Are colleges really doing this poor of a job preparing guys to play QB at the next level?

I could see Dallas kicking the tires on Orton.

 

[Banemorth]

I really love Flynn to Miami and I think he's worth every penny (within reason)

 

[gonzobill5]

I don't think most of these QBs get paid much at all. Some of them (like Orton or Josh Johnson) could be a downright bargain at backup money. Certainly Peyton Manning and Matt Flynn could get big contracts...but I'm not sure you can say they are overpaid definitively until we see more. If a team is convinced Peyton is healthy he is worth 15-20 mil a year. If Flynn can execute the way he showed at the end of the season, he'll be worth it too.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by colleges not preparing guys. After free agency and the draft every pro team could have either a competent starting quarterback, or a guy that they think will become a competent starting quarterback. I can't remember another year where that was true.

 

[spodog]

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by colleges not preparing guys. After free agency and the draft every pro team could have either a competent starting quarterback, or a guy that they think will become a competent starting quarterback. I can't remember another year where that was true.

That's exactly my point, look how low our collective expectations are. If every NFL team might be in a position to field a competent starter or even a guy with the potential to develop to the competenet level, then we consider that a rare year. Shouldn't the expectation be that many teams have quality QBs, every team has 1 or possibly even 2 competent QBs, and some teams even go into the season with three?

With 120 Div NCAA Div 1A schools graduating QBs almost every year, the overall pool (rookies and vets) of QB's for NFL teams to draw from in any given year should be north of 300 players. Yet every year, we see around half the league fail to find a guy they are comfortable with for the full season.

On the top of that list, Brees and Manning are proven. Teams would likely give their starting job to Alex Smith and Orton, and maybe Grossman. The rest of the list are backups and camp bodies.

QB is a specialist position, with in demand specialist skills, yet, as you point out, so few seem to be able to move into the range of competent.

I'm accepting of it, I'm just wondering if anyone has any views as to why the situation persists, at some point I'd think the QB factories in Texas, western PA, CA and elsewhere would crank out enough of these guys to level the supply demand imbalance a little more.