2012 Job Stealers (1 Viewer)

[QuizGuy66]

My team is buried and I'm planning for next year. This isn't an assistant coach deal IMO because I think info benefits all those planning ahead in keeper/dynasty style leagues.

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers. Is there any chance he takes the #1 role next year in Atlanta? Is Shane Vereen prime to be more than just part of a mess in NE? Basically who are the best candidates to be new #1 guys next year that are total after thoughts today? (Jerome Simpson is one example of this kinda guy).

Anyhow interested in who folks see as guys lying in the weeds that might suddenly be top 20 picks next year.

-QG

 

[Scooby1974]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

 

[Gawain]

Hardesty could find himself the main ball carrier on Cleveland next year.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

Hunter ----> Gore

X -----> Shonn Greene

 

[zamboni]

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers.

First guy I thought of was Rodgers.Except it may be a 2013 event - Turner will almost assuredly start the year as the guy again, but at some point with his heavy workload over the past several years, the wheels will come off. Just a matter of when, and then it may be Rodgers' time.

 

[zamboni]

Hardesty could find himself the main ball carrier on Cleveland next year.

I don't think he's done much to convince team brass, and that's just the times he's been healthy. He will likely get a chance to compete for the job, but will have to win it outright IMO.

 

[zamboni]

Maybe Delone Carter if he can learn to hold onto the ball.

 

[Concept Coop]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

 

[Rushmore]

My team is buried and I'm planning for next year. This isn't an assistant coach deal IMO because I think info benefits all those planning ahead in keeper/dynasty style leagues.

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers. Is there any chance he takes the #1 role next year in Atlanta? Is Shane Vereen prime to be more than just part of a mess in NE? Basically who are the best candidates to be new #1 guys next year that are total after thoughts today? (Jerome Simpson is one example of this kinda guy).

Anyhow interested in who folks see as guys lying in the weeds that might suddenly be top 20 picks next year.

-QG

In all seriousness, I am currently looking at both Quiz and Vereen both as two of my favorite options for what you are looking for. As one who has rostered Quiz most of the year in one league, I have been wondering if I should drop him for Vereen. Interested in hearing opinions on this.

 

[Concept Coop]

My team is buried and I'm planning for next year. This isn't an assistant coach deal IMO because I think info benefits all those planning ahead in keeper/dynasty style leagues.

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers. Is there any chance he takes the #1 role next year in Atlanta? Is Shane Vereen prime to be more than just part of a mess in NE? Basically who are the best candidates to be new #1 guys next year that are total after thoughts today? (Jerome Simpson is one example of this kinda guy).

Anyhow interested in who folks see as guys lying in the weeds that might suddenly be top 20 picks next year.

-QG

In all seriousness, I am currently looking at both Quiz and Vereen both as two of my favorite options for what you are looking for. As one who has rostered Quiz most of the year in one league, I have been wondering if I should drop him for Vereen. Interested in hearing opinions on this.

Vereen is on the wire? He has never seen the wire in any of my leagues.I would drop Quizz for Vereen, given the chance.

 

[jonboltz]

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers.

First guy I thought of was Rodgers.Except it may be a 2013 event - Turner will almost assuredly start the year as the guy again, but at some point with his heavy workload over the past several years, the wheels will come off. Just a matter of when, and then it may be Rodgers' time.

I love Rodgers talent, but in my opinion he is much much much more likely to be in a time-share, even if Turner does face an injury. He could be solid in PPR leagues in the hope he turns into Sproles-lite, but I think targeting him in standard leagues would be a mistake.

 

[Scooby1974]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

Similar to Rodgers, Flynn has had a chance to sit and learn from a coach that has helped develop Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers without the pressure of being "the man". Maybe expectations are too high for Flynn...but the OP asked who has a chance to steal a job. My thought is Flynn could possibly step into a place like Seattle, Clev, Miami, Oakland, and Washington and give the starter a run for his money.

 

[Scooby1974]

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers.

First guy I thought of was Rodgers.Except it may be a 2013 event - Turner will almost assuredly start the year as the guy again, but at some point with his heavy workload over the past several years, the wheels will come off. Just a matter of when, and then it may be Rodgers' time.

I love Rodgers talent, but in my opinion he is much much much more likely to be in a time-share, even if Turner does face an injury. He could be solid in PPR leagues in the hope he turns into Sproles-lite, but I think targeting him in standard leagues would be a mistake.

Outside of AP and Rice...EVERYONE is in a timeshare.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

My thought is Flynn could possibly step into a place like Seattle, Clev, Miami, Oakland, and Washington and give the starter a run for his money.

Oakland has PalmerOne of the others will trade for ManningThe rest will probably draft a QB

 

[jonboltz]

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers.

First guy I thought of was Rodgers.Except it may be a 2013 event - Turner will almost assuredly start the year as the guy again, but at some point with his heavy workload over the past several years, the wheels will come off. Just a matter of when, and then it may be Rodgers' time.

I love Rodgers talent, but in my opinion he is much much much more likely to be in a time-share, even if Turner does face an injury. He could be solid in PPR leagues in the hope he turns into Sproles-lite, but I think targeting him in standard leagues would be a mistake.

Outside of AP and Rice...EVERYONE is in a timeshare.

Turner, F-Jackson, Forte, McCoy, Foster, MJD, Lynch, CJ1K, Mendenhall, Wells, McFadden, S-Jackson, Benson, Blount...

 

[GreenNGold]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

He is considered the best backup QB in the league. What round he was drafted in is completely irrelevant. He is going to be a starting QB somewhere next year, if you have the roster spot in a keeper/dynasty he definitely has value.

 

[Concept Coop]

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers.

First guy I thought of was Rodgers.Except it may be a 2013 event - Turner will almost assuredly start the year as the guy again, but at some point with his heavy workload over the past several years, the wheels will come off. Just a matter of when, and then it may be Rodgers' time.

I love Rodgers talent, but in my opinion he is much much much more likely to be in a time-share, even if Turner does face an injury. He could be solid in PPR leagues in the hope he turns into Sproles-lite, but I think targeting him in standard leagues would be a mistake.

Outside of AP and Rice...EVERYONE is in a timeshare.

Turner, F-Jackson, Forte, McCoy, Foster, MJD, Lynch, CJ1K, Mendenhall, Wells, McFadden, S-Jackson, Benson, Blount...

 

[Concept Coop]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

He is considered the best backup QB in the league. What round he was drafted in is completely irrelevant. He is going to be a starting QB somewhere next year, if you have the roster spot in a keeper/dynasty he definitely has value.

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.Again, based on one start? That makes you the best backup? That warrants a starting job? Hell, paying this guy starting money would make the Cardinals look brilliant for giving up a solid player, and a pick, JUST to pay Kolb starter money.

 

[QuizGuy66]

My team is buried and I'm planning for next year. This isn't an assistant coach deal IMO because I think info benefits all those planning ahead in keeper/dynasty style leagues.

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers. Is there any chance he takes the #1 role next year in Atlanta? Is Shane Vereen prime to be more than just part of a mess in NE? Basically who are the best candidates to be new #1 guys next year that are total after thoughts today? (Jerome Simpson is one example of this kinda guy).

Anyhow interested in who folks see as guys lying in the weeds that might suddenly be top 20 picks next year.

-QG

In all seriousness, I am currently looking at both Quiz and Vereen both as two of my favorite options for what you are looking for. As one who has rostered Quiz most of the year in one league, I have been wondering if I should drop him for Vereen. Interested in hearing opinions on this.

It's a tough call. I have done this in the past with success. I remember protecting Steven Jackson under very similar circumstances when Faulk was there in a 2-protect league. It ended up paying off handsomely.I'd probably lean Quizz as a longer-term play in that if he gets the job he'll get a big portion of carries. New England as a policy spreads it around making it a little tougher on Vereen even if he becomes the starter. Look at Green Bay with Starks - even BJ Raji is getting goal-line looks ahead of him

-QG

 

[GreenNGold]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

He is considered the best backup QB in the league. What round he was drafted in is completely irrelevant. He is going to be a starting QB somewhere next year, if you have the roster spot in a keeper/dynasty he definitely has value.

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.Again, based on one start? That makes you the best backup? That warrants a starting job? Hell, paying this guy starting money would make the Cardinals look brilliant for giving up a solid player, and a pick, JUST to pay Kolb starter money.

Yes draft position is so relevant after players have been in the NFL for several years already.

 

[Scooby1974]

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers.

First guy I thought of was Rodgers.Except it may be a 2013 event - Turner will almost assuredly start the year as the guy again, but at some point with his heavy workload over the past several years, the wheels will come off. Just a matter of when, and then it may be Rodgers' time.

I love Rodgers talent, but in my opinion he is much much much more likely to be in a time-share, even if Turner does face an injury. He could be solid in PPR leagues in the hope he turns into Sproles-lite, but I think targeting him in standard leagues would be a mistake.

Outside of AP and Rice...EVERYONE is in a timeshare.

Turner, F-Jackson, Forte, McCoy, Foster, MJD, Lynch, CJ1K, Mendenhall, Wells, McFadden, S-Jackson, Benson, Blount...

We are assuming Turner falls off the wagon here...but Ok...I sit corrected that there are more lead backs. Foster has seen an decrease due to Tate. Forte has lost a bunch of short yardage TD's to MB3, CJ1K is losing to Ringer, Wells competition was hurt and traded away early in the year, DMac has MBush/Taiwan Jones, Benson seeing Scott with more run, and Blount's competition tore an ACL. Very few guys aren't losing some sort of decent value to their backup.With Turner's workload and Snelling a FA after this year...I could still see Quiz doing well in an offense that WAS looking more pass happy before Julio's injury. Will they keep Snelling? Will they give Quiz more run and use Turner as more of a "GL/short yardage/give Quiz a rest" guy as Quiz gets accustomed to the offense/pass protection? Who knows....but stranger things have happened.

 

[Concept Coop]

Yes draft position is so relevant after players have been in the NFL for several years already.

When the reason you went in the 7th round is your arm strength, which doesn't improve, it is relevant. And you didn't really address my point: What has Flynn done to warrant a team making him their starter?

 

[QuizGuy66]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

He is considered the best backup QB in the league. What round he was drafted in is completely irrelevant. He is going to be a starting QB somewhere next year, if you have the roster spot in a keeper/dynasty he definitely has value.

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.Again, based on one start? That makes you the best backup? That warrants a starting job? Hell, paying this guy starting money would make the Cardinals look brilliant for giving up a solid player, and a pick, JUST to pay Kolb starter money.

I disagree with the sentiment about Flynn (in terms of best back-up in the league) but he's a guy that can go somewhere else (I assume is contract is up) and is thus at least grist for the mill of this conversation.More veteran guys fall into this category too. Though he ended up totally busting this year so it's not a perfect example, McNabb leaving Washington was a guy to watch if he ended up in the right place and it ended up working out. -QG

 

[jonboltz]

One guy that came to mind is Jacquizz Rogers.

First guy I thought of was Rodgers.Except it may be a 2013 event - Turner will almost assuredly start the year as the guy again, but at some point with his heavy workload over the past several years, the wheels will come off. Just a matter of when, and then it may be Rodgers' time.

I love Rodgers talent, but in my opinion he is much much much more likely to be in a time-share, even if Turner does face an injury. He could be solid in PPR leagues in the hope he turns into Sproles-lite, but I think targeting him in standard leagues would be a mistake.

Outside of AP and Rice...EVERYONE is in a timeshare.

Turner, F-Jackson, Forte, McCoy, Foster, MJD, Lynch, CJ1K, Mendenhall, Wells, McFadden, S-Jackson, Benson, Blount...

We are assuming Turner falls off the wagon here...but Ok...I sit corrected that there are more lead backs. Foster has seen an decrease due to Tate. Forte has lost a bunch of short yardage TD's to MB3, CJ1K is losing to Ringer, Wells competition was hurt and traded away early in the year, DMac has MBush/Taiwan Jones, Benson seeing Scott with more run, and Blount's competition tore an ACL. Very few guys aren't losing some sort of decent value to their backup.With Turner's workload and Snelling a FA after this year...I could still see Quiz doing well in an offense that WAS looking more pass happy before Julio's injury. Will they keep Snelling? Will they give Quiz more run and use Turner as more of a "GL/short yardage/give Quiz a rest" guy as Quiz gets accustomed to the offense/pass protection? Who knows....but stranger things have happened.

"Losing some value to their backup" isn't the same thing as a time share. Nobody is going to get 100% of the carries. There is little reason to believe they will use Quiz as a primary ball carrier. I think his upside is in the range of what Danny Woodhead was able to produce last year--which was still pretty solid in PPR.

 

[jonboltz]

Yes draft position is so relevant after players have been in the NFL for several years already.

When the reason you went in the 7th round is your arm strength, which doesn't improve, it is relevant. And you didn't really address my point: What has Flynn done to warrant a team making him their starter?

4 training camps, two NFL games with extended playtime including one start. Based upon what NFL scouts appear to be saying, he will likely be given a contract somewhere that will allow him the chance to compete for a starting gig -- I doubt anyone would just sign him AS THEIR starter, but he will get a shot at it somewhere.

 

[Concept Coop]

4 training camps, two NFL games with extended playtime including one start. Based upon what NFL scouts appear to be saying, he will likely be given a contract somewhere that will allow him the chance to compete for a starting gig -- I doubt anyone would just sign him AS THEIR starter, but he will get a shot at it somewhere.

Link? I haven't read scouts claiming what he will or won't get on the market.And has anyone bothered to look at his career numbers?

 

[GreenNGold]

4 training camps, two NFL games with extended playtime including one start. Based upon what NFL scouts appear to be saying, he will likely be given a contract somewhere that will allow him the chance to compete for a starting gig -- I doubt anyone would just sign him AS THEIR starter, but he will get a shot at it somewhere.

Link? I haven't read scouts claiming what he will or won't get on the market.And has anyone bothered to look at his career numbers?

That is common knowledge no one needs to provide a link for you, go google it or something. Why don't you provide links to your no arm strength which has not improved claims?

 

[Scooby1974]

4 training camps, two NFL games with extended playtime including one start. Based upon what NFL scouts appear to be saying, he will likely be given a contract somewhere that will allow him the chance to compete for a starting gig -- I doubt anyone would just sign him AS THEIR starter, but he will get a shot at it somewhere.

Link? I haven't read scouts claiming what he will or won't get on the market.And has anyone bothered to look at his career numbers?

He has played behind a Hall of Famer and a future Hall of Famer that haven't gotten hurt and play in an offense that has led their team to the playoffs year after year (not leaving space nor time for backups to get playing time)...how many numbers does could Flynn possibly have to look at? Is he unproven? Of course...does that mean he is the same QB he was 5 years? 3 years ago? 1 year ago? No.If Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassell, and Tavaris Jackson got jobs and a paycheck then Flynn has a shot as a "Job Stealer in 2012" as well. Nobody is arguing that he's a high end starter...this thread is intended to point out guys under the radar that COULD be starting next year. Flynn appears to be falling into this category be default of who his coach is, who he is backing up, and observations we've read of his improvement behind the scenes.

 

[Concept Coop]

He has played behind a Hall of Famer and a future Hall of Famer that haven't gotten hurt and play in an offense that has led their team to the playoffs year after year (not leaving space nor time for backups to get playing time)...how many numbers does could Flynn possibly have to look at? Is he unproven? Of course...does that mean he is the same QB he was 5 years? 3 years ago? 1 year ago? No.If Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassell, and Tavaris Jackson got jobs and a paycheck then Flynn has a shot as a "Job Stealer in 2012" as well. Nobody is arguing that he's a high end starter...this thread is intended to point out guys under the radar that COULD be starting next year. Flynn appears to be falling into this category be default of who his coach is, who he is backing up, and observations we've read of his improvement behind the scenes.

Kolb, Cassell, and Jackson all played in multiple NFL games - Cassell and Jackson, full seasons. You are talking about a 7th round pick with one start. And if backing up a HOFer on a winning team some how makes you a better player, Curtis Painter anyone? He is the same age and was drafted higher. Surely he should be on...oh. Wait.

 

[domvin]

Dj Williams: Finley is a FA at seasons end, could be a cheap stash if Finley is not tagged.

Wesley Saunders: May have to wait on Heath Miller, since his contract is 3-4 more years, but

I love Saunders talent, and where he landed.

Emmanuel Sanders: Everyone raves about Brown, but Sanders is the supposed better route runner

Mike Goodson: Forgotten man in Carolina, and what he brought to the table in 2010, but he's on

IR, and may be free to go wherever next year.

Andrew Hawkins/Shipley: Shipley is most likely a FA, and Hawkins' talent is evident.

Whomever takes the slot in this emerging offense could be a nice WR3/WR4, lean to the latter...

Kyle Rudolph: You will have to trade for him, but I don't see Shiancoe in MN next year, and I love Ru

Rudolphs talent

Tyler Thigpen: A what the heck pick, with Fitzpatrick crapping the bed. Huge contract though...

Steve Smith: Philly version. 1 year contract and will be a full year removed from his injury

plagued 2010 season. Hard to see him in resigning in Philly with Maclin, Avant, Cooper, and perhaps Desean??

Da Rel Scott: Bradhsaw, Jacobs, all getting older, and Ware not too impressive

Reggie Wayne: I know he does not belong on this list, but I can see him being let go and playing in his hometown

New Orleans. You can probably snag Wayne Cheap right now....so, in essence, a 2012 starter

elsewhere....

edit above, Shipley a FA in your fantasy league....

 

[BallparkFrank]

Along the same lines as Flynn, I'm always a bit shocked at how many people talk up Brian Hoyer as landing a starting QB job next year as a FA. Granted, there are a lot of horrible QB's out there...but Brian Hoyer?

 

[Concept Coop]

Dj Williams: Finley is a FA at seasons end, could be a cheap stash if Finley is not tagged.Wesley Saunders: May have to wait on Heath Miller, since his contract is 3-4 more years, butI love Saunders talent, and where he landed.Emmanuel Sanders: Everyone raves about Brown, but Sanders is the supposed better route runnerMike Goodson: Forgotten man in Carolina, and what he brought to the table in 2010, but he's onIR, and may be free to go wherever next year.Andrew Hawkins/Shipley: Shipley is most likely a FA, and Hawkins' talent is evident.Whomever takes the slot in this emerging offense could be a nice WR3/WR4, lean to the latter...Kyle Rudolph: You will have to trade for him, but I don't see Shiancoe in MN next year, and I love RuRudolphs talentTyler Thigpen: A what the heck pick, with Fitzpatrick crapping the bed. Huge contract though...Steve Smith: Philly version. 1 year contract and will be a full year removed from his injuryplagued 2010 season. Hard to see him in resigning in Philly with Maclin, Avant, Cooper, and perhaps Desean??Da Rel Scott: Bradhsaw, Jacobs, all getting older, and Ware not too impressiveReggie Wayne: I know he does not belong on this list, but I can see him being let go and playing in his hometown New Orleans. You can probably snag Wayne Cheap right now....so, in essence, a 2012 starterelsewhere....edit above, Shipley a FA in your fantasy league....

Very strong list.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Reggie Wayne: I know he does not belong on this list, but I can see him being let go and playing in his hometown New Orleans. You can probably snag Wayne Cheap right now....so, in essence, a 2012 starterelsewhere....

Wayne belongs on this list. He's a guy who could be out there in the FA pool and who could be good enough to protect in a league going into next year depending on number of protects and rules. This is not strictly a young-player thread. -QG

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Depending on how his knee responds, Alex Green is worth a stash. Training camp will be nine months removed from the injury and Grant will probably be gone next year.

 

[domvin]

Reggie Wayne: I know he does not belong on this list, but I can see him being let go and playing in his hometown New Orleans. You can probably snag Wayne Cheap right now....so, in essence, a 2012 starterelsewhere....

Wayne belongs on this list. He's a guy who could be out there in the FA pool and who could be good enough to protect in a league going into next year depending on number of protects and rules. This is not strictly a young-player thread. -QG

thats what i thought you were after. Younger players. . .

 

[Scooby1974]

He has played behind a Hall of Famer and a future Hall of Famer that haven't gotten hurt and play in an offense that has led their team to the playoffs year after year (not leaving space nor time for backups to get playing time)...how many numbers does could Flynn possibly have to look at? Is he unproven? Of course...does that mean he is the same QB he was 5 years? 3 years ago? 1 year ago? No.If Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassell, and Tavaris Jackson got jobs and a paycheck then Flynn has a shot as a "Job Stealer in 2012" as well. Nobody is arguing that he's a high end starter...this thread is intended to point out guys under the radar that COULD be starting next year. Flynn appears to be falling into this category be default of who his coach is, who he is backing up, and observations we've read of his improvement behind the scenes.

Kolb, Cassell, and Jackson all played in multiple NFL games - Cassell and Jackson, full seasons. You are talking about a 7th round pick with one start. And if backing up a HOFer on a winning team some how makes you a better player, Curtis Painter anyone? He is the same age and was drafted higher. Surely he should be on...oh. Wait.

Cassell was a seventh round pick stuck behind a HOF QB that never got hurt...got his chance...but he's not starting eit.....oh wait.

 

[Assani Fisher]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

He is considered the best backup QB in the league. What round he was drafted in is completely irrelevant. He is going to be a starting QB somewhere next year, if you have the roster spot in a keeper/dynasty he definitely has value.

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.Again, based on one start? That makes you the best backup? That warrants a starting job? Hell, paying this guy starting money would make the Cardinals look brilliant for giving up a solid player, and a pick, JUST to pay Kolb starter money.

I assume NFL GMs and coaches know a lot more about Flynn's development than me or you. From what I've heard(and granted this can be a smokescreen at times) GMs and coaches rave about how well he has developed.

 

[LOCO]

Maybe not job stealer but I think next year Stewart becomes a rb1

 

[QuizGuy66]

Reggie Wayne: I know he does not belong on this list, but I can see him being let go and playing in his hometown New Orleans. You can probably snag Wayne Cheap right now....so, in essence, a 2012 starterelsewhere....

Wayne belongs on this list. He's a guy who could be out there in the FA pool and who could be good enough to protect in a league going into next year depending on number of protects and rules. This is not strictly a young-player thread. -QG

thats what i thought you were after. Younger players. . .

From my OP:

Anyhow interested in who folks see as guys lying in the weeds that might suddenly be top 20 picks next year.

In the main they will be younger players cuz that's how things generally go, but in some cases it could be a well-placed veteran who gets into a favorable spot. Say a veteran WR that fell out of favor suddenly goes to a team without a #1 WR - that's a possible example.-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Maybe not job stealer but I think next year Stewart becomes a rb1

Whoa, he's gonna supplant Cam? -QG

 

[pittstownkiller]

Maybe not job stealer but I think next year Stewart becomes a rb1

Whoa, he's gonna supplant Cam? -QG

Hallelujah, we made it to the Promised Land!!!

 

[Sabertooth]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

He is considered the best backup QB in the league. What round he was drafted in is completely irrelevant. He is going to be a starting QB somewhere next year, if you have the roster spot in a keeper/dynasty he definitely has value.

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.Again, based on one start? That makes you the best backup? That warrants a starting job? Hell, paying this guy starting money would make the Cardinals look brilliant for giving up a solid player, and a pick, JUST to pay Kolb starter money.

You sounds like you have a very entrenched opinion on him based on his one start. Ironic.

 

[Sabertooth]

Yes draft position is so relevant after players have been in the NFL for several years already.

When the reason you went in the 7th round is your arm strength, which doesn't improve, it is relevant. And you didn't really address my point: What has Flynn done to warrant a team making him their starter?

The "reason" Rodgers slid was his lack of athleticism. To your point, he's done nothing to be handed a job. However if he were brought in to compete vs. say Alex Smith or Tarvaris Jackson, he would have at least a shot at beating them out in the preseason.

 

[Concept Coop]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

He is considered the best backup QB in the league. What round he was drafted in is completely irrelevant. He is going to be a starting QB somewhere next year, if you have the roster spot in a keeper/dynasty he definitely has value.

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.Again, based on one start? That makes you the best backup? That warrants a starting job? Hell, paying this guy starting money would make the Cardinals look brilliant for giving up a solid player, and a pick, JUST to pay Kolb starter money.

I assume NFL GMs and coaches know a lot more about Flynn's development than me or you. From what I've heard(and granted this can be a smokescreen at times) GMs and coaches rave about how well he has developed.

Does anybody have a link? I really want to read what all of these scouts/coaches/GMs have said. For one, opposing scouts do not have the access to GB pratice needed to suggest Flynn should be paid starter money. Second, if we are going to take what his own coaches and GM are saying about him, after what they see in practice, and use that to mean he could start next year...ok. There are a lot of fluff articles/comments. I remember coaches and players JUST THIS YEAR saying great things about Curtis Painter. By all means, use the roster spot. But I feel justified in my questioning of the logic.

 

[bonesman]

Surprised noone has said Josh Johnson yet... he's always a favorite in these type of threads.

 

[Concept Coop]

Cassell was a seventh round pick stuck behind a HOF QB that never got hurt...got his chance...but he's not starting eit.....oh wait.

Good point. Hold on to Flynn incase Rodgers goes down for a season, the team goes 10-6, and Flynn throws for 4,000. When that happens, he might have Cassell value. Solid bet, really.

 

[Scooby1974]

Cassell was a seventh round pick stuck behind a HOF QB that never got hurt...got his chance...but he's not starting eit.....oh wait.

Good point. Hold on to Flynn incase Rodgers goes down for a season, the team goes 10-6, and Flynn throws for 4,000. When that happens, he might have Cassell value. Solid bet, really.

I didn't realize Flynn's ability to start on another team next year was tied to Rodgers getting hurt this year. My bad. It is clear you strongly disagree that Flynn COULD start somewhere next year, but must you be a douch about it? I myself am not after Flynn, nor do I plan to be, or think he'd excel if given the shot...but he will very likely get a chance somewhere no matter what we think, and that is what this thread is trying to unearth.

 

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Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

Wait, so 7th round QBs don't belong in the NFL as starters? Got it.Lucky for Tom Brady he was taken with the 33rd pick of the sixth round.Flynn beat out Brian Brohm, a second round pick for the Packers. Clearly the GB staff, who have a fairly high success rate with QB's over the years (obviously not Brohm), are fairly satisfied with this kid.I'll go with their opinion over yours every day of the week. Especially in a thread such as this one.

 

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Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

Wait, so 7th round QBs don't belong in the NFL as starters? Got it.Lucky for Tom Brady he was taken with the 33rd pick of the sixth round.Flynn beat out Brian Brohm, a second round pick for the Packers. Clearly the GB staff, who have a fairly high success rate with QB's over the years (obviously not Brohm), are fairly satisfied with this kid.I'll go with their opinion over yours every day of the week. Especially in a thread such as this one.

That is not what I said. I understand that some 7th round picks can pan out. But does that make it a good practice to "stash" every 7th round pick whose coaches say good things?I simply don't understand the hype - simple as that. He doesn't have an average NFL arm, even, and has had one start in his career. There are surely better things to do with a roster spot - Jerrell Jernigan, Cecil Shorts, Weslye Saunders (whose coaches have said good things about him. Take their word.), Tanner Philips, Ramses Barden, et cetera.

 

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Cassell was a seventh round pick stuck behind a HOF QB that never got hurt...got his chance...but he's not starting eit.....oh wait.

Good point. Hold on to Flynn incase Rodgers goes down for a season, the team goes 10-6, and Flynn throws for 4,000. When that happens, he might have Cassell value. Solid bet, really.

I didn't realize Flynn's ability to start on another team next year was tied to Rodgers getting hurt this year. My bad. It is clear you strongly disagree that Flynn COULD start somewhere next year, but must you be a douch about it? I myself am not after Flynn, nor do I plan to be, or think he'd excel if given the shot...but he will very likely get a chance somewhere no matter what we think, and that is what this thread is trying to unearth.

Don't mean to be a ##### and haven't made a single personal comment.