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[Claymaker52]

Just a few articles/quotes I dug up about Flynn with a quick Google search:

Link 1

One NFL scout was asked if Flynn has the potential to be a starter in the NFL.

“In the right situation, yeah,” the scout replied. “He looks sharp. He looked good against New England. Smart. Heady. Athletic enough. Very poised.”

This one is in reference to his improved arm strength/mechanics:Link 2

Scouts and drafting personnel that had dogged him about pure passing ability are commenting on the level of maturation in Flynn's style of play.

Even former teammates see the difference. "When he was at LSU, of course he was a great leader and everything like that," said rookie fullback Quinn Johnson, a teammate of Flynn's from 2004-'07. "But when I got here, his mechanics and everything, just a completely different player. His arm used to be good, but it was nothing like now."

This one is a scouting report that grades him out as an NFL starter, despite mediocre arm strength:Link 3

Flynn shows poise, patience and good decision-making that NFL teams look for, and combined with his intermediate accuracy, he has many of the tools to be a productive starting QB in the NFL.

This one is admittedly from a hometown writer:Link 4

“If scouts from other teams were allowed to attend practice, they would be making calls back home as fast as possible,” Silverstein says.

The positive spin here is that the Packers have one of the best backup quarterbacks in football.

I dug these up quickly, I'm sure there's more out there. I don't think he'd ever be anything too special, but he's developed to the point where he definitely could compete for a starting position somewhere. As previously mentioned, it'd have to be in right system. But, for start 2 QB leagues like I'm in, he's definitely on the radar as a guy who might get an opportunity.

 

[Pope Benedict XVI Fan]

I don't know much about Flynn other than the pretty decent half he had against the Pats last year, but it's wrong to say that you can't improve arm strength. Brady when he came into the league had a below average arm and now, whilst he doesn't have a cannon like Vick or Cam, he can make all the throws including 50-60 yards downfield. It's the same with Brees who also didn't have a big arm in San Diego, but he has worked very hard on his upper body strength and now it isn't a problem. Generally it's accuracy that is difficult to improve due to ingrained poor mechanics, improving arm strength is a matter of hitting the gym hard and working on speeding up your throwing motion.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Okay so Flynn may or not be one of those guys.

Who else is out there that fits this category of possibly stepping into a big role ahead of next season?

-QG

 

[loose circuits]

seems like way too much effort is being put into justifying Flynn as a potential starter. If one guy doesn't want to buy in, who cares?

Personally I like Josh Johnson a tad bit more, but there should be some competition for free agents next season with how well Alex Smith is playing. Drew Brees is a free agent, but he shouldn't go anywhere. Vince Young and Josh Campbell are two others. Caleb Hanie is another and we'll get to see what he's about in the immediate future. Along with a strong rookie class, so it will be hard to tell who will end up with a gig

 

[pittstownkiller]

Flynn if he lands in a half decent spot.

I don't get this. He is a 7th round pick that had one good start. He isn't even what Drew Henson was years ago, with the Cowboys.

Wait, so 7th round QBs don't belong in the NFL as starters? Got it.Lucky for Tom Brady he was taken with the 33rd pick of the sixth round.

Flynn beat out Brian Brohm, a second round pick for the Packers. Clearly the GB staff, who have a fairly high success rate with QB's over the years (obviously not Brohm), are fairly satisfied with this kid.

I'll go with their opinion over yours every day of the week. Especially in a thread such as this one.

That is not what I said. I understand that some 7th round picks can pan out. But does that make it a good practice to "stash" every 7th round pick whose coaches say good things?I simply don't understand the hype - simple as that. He doesn't have an average NFL arm, even, and has had one start in his career. There are surely better things to do with a roster spot - Jerrell Jernigan, Cecil Shorts, Weslye Saunders (whose coaches have said good things about him. Take their word.), Tanner Philips, Ramses Barden, et cetera.

You keep referring to this as you can't judge talent on one start but you seem to be able to condemn him to a mediocre career based on the same one start; perplexing. Give me the QB that has spent years sitting under a future HOF, on a Super Bowl winning team, in a complex offense that is popular around the league, and is a FA, any day as a stash; I'll make out well more often than not. I don't think that anyone said to stash every 7th round pick here, just this one. If nothing else Flynn will get some draft buzz and could be used as a trading chip, or even if nothing happens, and he remains in GB, he is a valuable hedge on Rodgers with his concussions. I will give you that all of the players you listed above might have better FF careers than Flynn but I doubt that any of them are going to be more fantasy relevant sooner than him. You list Barden, the third year man who is currently behind the walk-on Cruz; if you don't think Flynn has more value than that regardless of actual talent then, IMO, your analysis is so deep it is only applicable to the deepest of leagues, like 32 team ones

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Can we juts get back to what the topic was about. You folks arguing over Flynn please just #### and get it over with

 

[GreenNGold]

Can we juts get back to what the topic was about. You folks arguing over Flynn please just #### and get it over with

Flynn is going to have a better career than Andrew Luck. He is worth discussing.

 

[Sabertooth]

On the Packers, you are going to see Randall Cobb step into that slot role. We are seeing it already. He's not exactly a buy-low though.

You want a buy-low guy, how about Tony Moeaki?

As for running backs, I could see Deji Karim getting meaningful carries and transitioning into the starting role. You'd have to think that Denver's rushing game is still unsettled so I could see a guy like Jeremiah Johnson stepping into the void there. McGahee is old and Moreno is a bust.

Ryan Williams is another one. Chris Wells has played decent, but nothing to suggest he's got a stranglehold on the job.

Isaac Redman is another one. Mendenhall is decent, but nothing jumps off the page with him.

 

[nysportsfan]

Yes draft position is so relevant after players have been in the NFL for several years already.

When the reason you went in the 7th round is your arm strength, which doesn't improve, it is relevant. And you didn't really address my point: What has Flynn done to warrant a team making him their starter?

Tom Brady says hello.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Can we juts get back to what the topic was about. You folks arguing over Flynn please just #### and get it over with

Flynn is going to have a better career than Andrew Luck. He is worth discussing.

Are you ?Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect coming out since Peyton Manning. He is head and torso above Matt Flynn.Of course if you meant better career as in Super Bowl rings from being a backup, then maybe Flynn will have a better career.

 

[jonboltz]

I have a few guys stashed that I haven't seen mentioned (PPR league):

Chris Ivory-- severely crowded in that backfield, so I'm not sure what to think of him for next year. As we saw in 2010, injuries can happen and this guy has the talent to start in this league.

Dennis Pitta-- have been souring a bit on him recently, mostly due to concerns that his upside will never be higher than a low TE1/high TE2.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

On the Packers, you are going to see Randall Cobb step into that slot role. We are seeing it already. He's not exactly a buy-low though.

You want a buy-low guy, how about Tony Moeaki?

As for running backs, I could see Deji Karim getting meaningful carries and transitioning into the starting role. You'd have to think that Denver's rushing game is still unsettled so I could see a guy like Jeremiah Johnson stepping into the void there. McGahee is old and Moreno is a bust.

Ryan Williams is another one. Chris Wells has played decent, but nothing to suggest he's got a stranglehold on the job.

Isaac Redman is another one. Mendenhall is decent, but nothing jumps off the page with him.

Good list.Cobb is a good choice because with the possibility of Finley leaving, the Packers have a void and I don't see many of those WR's playing the slot better than Cobb.

Tony Moeaki is a good call too.

Ryan Williams is coming off of a serious injury and he was raw coming out, I would wait until 2013 before any good #'s are produced.

My list:

Josh Freeman/Sam Bradford- both with very down years but with lots of talent. Give them more time to develop and get weapons around them.

Kevin Smith- Yeah I know, I know. Turns 25 in december, but his only competition is LeShoure(coming off of achilles) and Best who may never be the same RB. In a high powered offense that needs a versatile RB.

Peyton Hillis- We know he can play and has amazing hands for such a big RB. He is an UFA after the season and could land in a good situation.

Arrelious Benn- Tampa Mike has flopped and is what he is. A WR that catches 50% of his passes and can get some TDs. Next year Benn will be closer to 100% pre ACL tear and could emerge as the #1 in Tampa.

Demaryius Thomas- With Decker on the other side, he will see lots of 1 on 1 matchups in his future. Thomas looks decent back from his injury and is one heck of an athlete.

David Nelson- 6'5, catches 67% of his targets, only 25 years old and has a connection with Fitzpatrick who is locked down in Buffalo.

Vincent Brown- Vincent Jackson may leave this offseason and Gates is showing his age.

Sidney Rice/Zach Miller- Seattle is a mess: tons of injuries to the OL and inconsistent QB play. Both of these players have the talent to be studs.

 

[guderian]

I'm not a big fan of sleeper QBs going into next year. There just aren't enough openings available and we're likely to see Luck, Jones and Barkley soaking up 3 of the spots. So, there just won't be enough chairs left for all of the sleeper QBs.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm not a big fan of sleeper QBs going into next year. There just aren't enough openings available and we're likely to see Luck, Jones and Barkley soaking up 3 of the spots. So, there just won't be enough chairs left for all of the sleeper QBs.

Maybe, but with those rooks, some teams might prefer Tennesee's approach of acquiring a vet to place hold.

 

[Concept Coop]

My list:Josh Freeman/Sam Bradford- both with very down years but with lots of talent. Give them more time to develop and get weapons around them.Kevin Smith- Yeah I know, I know. Turns 25 in december, but his only competition is LeShoure(coming off of achilles) and Best who may never be the same RB. In a high powered offense that needs a versatile RB.Peyton Hillis- We know he can play and has amazing hands for such a big RB. He is an UFA after the season and could land in a good situation.Arrelious Benn- Tampa Mike has flopped and is what he is. A WR that catches 50% of his passes and can get some TDs. Next year Benn will be closer to 100% pre ACL tear and could emerge as the #1 in Tampa.Demaryius Thomas- With Decker on the other side, he will see lots of 1 on 1 matchups in his future. Thomas looks decent back from his injury and is one heck of an athlete.David Nelson- 6'5, catches 67% of his targets, only 25 years old and has a connection with Fitzpatrick who is locked down in Buffalo.Vincent Brown- Vincent Jackson may leave this offseason and Gates is showing his age.Sidney Rice/Zach Miller- Seattle is a mess: tons of injuries to the OL and inconsistent QB play. Both of these players have the talent to be studs.

I like these calls. I disagree with the previous poster's mention of Karim, however. Jax used Jennings MUCH more than they are using Karim this year. I don't think they trust Deji anywhere near enough to start him. I would actually put Jennings on the list. If I recall, his injury shouldn't slow him down long term. A few of mine - Mario Manningham - Could reclaim the job. The Giant WR2 position is starting to look like a goldmine. Stevan Ridley - I will be acquiring him as a throw in as often as I can. He is a lottery ticket, but I think NE drafted him with a role in mind. He may not start, but BJGE showed how productive a goal line back in NE can be. Davone Bess - His production has dropped due to the QB play. He isn't' lining up on the outside as much. But much like a former MIA slot man, I think Bess has very big PPR potential if he ever lands a top 8 QB. Kyle Rudolph - I know he has been mentioned, but I want to 2nd it. The guy is a football player with great hands. Granted, he is not likely to ever end up in a situation like NE, but he was rated on par with Gronkowski coming out of school. Lance Kendricks - If STL cleans house, a new system could take advantage of Lance's physical tools. This bread of TE is starting to be used more freely. Guys that can act as oversized WRs will continue to be used to create mismatches. Reminds me of Dustin Keller, who I think could also do more outside of NYJ. Austin Collie - Very much a risk. His name value is still lingering, so he may not be worth that risk yet. But, there is the potential that Peyton returns for a season or two, followed by Andrew Luck. Much like Peyton has, Luck has the tools to take advantage of a player like Collie. Eric Decker - I firmly believe that Decker has top 15 potential. He is constantly getting open deep and has been a TD machine. He offers the potential to be a teams possession receiver as well as a big play guy - I look for that when eyeing a breakout candidate.

 

[Born to Run]

Delanie Walker SF TE has starter talent, but is stuck behind Davis. Very good chance to produce if/when he gets the opportunity.

 

[GreenNGold]

Can we juts get back to what the topic was about. You folks arguing over Flynn please just #### and get it over with

Flynn is going to have a better career than Andrew Luck. He is worth discussing.

Are you ?Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect coming out since Peyton Manning. He is head and torso above Matt Flynn.Of course if you meant better career as in Super Bowl rings from being a backup, then maybe Flynn will have a better career.

Matt Flynn says hi.

 

[The Gunslinger]

Looks like Flynn will get to showcase his 7th round noodle next year afterall!

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Reggie Wayne: I know he does not belong on this list, but I can see him being let go and playing in his hometown New Orleans. You can probably snag Wayne Cheap right now....so, in essence, a 2012 starterelsewhere....

Wayne belongs on this list. He's a guy who could be out there in the FA pool and who could be good enough to protect in a league going into next year depending on number of protects and rules. This is not strictly a young-player thread. -QG

Would not be at all surprised if Colston leaves the Saints and they sign Wayne. But the x-factor and "job stealer" in that scenario would be Robert Meachem. IMO, he's shown he has what it takes to be a #1.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I think Kerley for the Jets probably just entered this category today perhaps.

-QG

 

[Sabertooth]

Looks like Flynn will get to showcase his 7th round noodle next year afterall!

Sure looked like a noodle yesterday when he broke those records.

 

[ThePittbully]

Yes draft position is so relevant after players have been in the NFL for several years already.

When the reason you went in the 7th round is your arm strength, which doesn't improve, it is relevant. And you didn't really address my point: What has Flynn done to warrant a team making him their starter?

Did you watch the game yesterday? Have you watched him play since college? I'd say he's got more than enough arm to be a successful QB in the NFL. Also, people said the same things about Brady coming out, he went in the 7th round due to lack of arm strength. He has taken significant snaps in 3 regular season games. In those 3 games he is 70/107 with a 64.4 completion percentage , 908 yards, 9 TD's and 3 Int's. Also if you watch the games, he looks pretty damn good

 

[Scooby1974]

Yes draft position is so relevant after players have been in the NFL for several years already.

When the reason you went in the 7th round is your arm strength, which doesn't improve, it is relevant. And you didn't really address my point: What has Flynn done to warrant a team making him their starter?

Did you watch the game yesterday? Have you watched him play since college? I'd say he's got more than enough arm to be a successful QB in the NFL. Also, people said the same things about Brady coming out, he went in the 7th round due to lack of arm strength. He has taken significant snaps in 3 regular season games. In those 3 games he is 70/107 with a 64.4 completion percentage , 908 yards, 9 TD's and 3 Int's. Also if you watch the games, he looks pretty damn good

The question will remain...What can Flynn do outside of Green Bay and their system? They pass protect like crazy and trot out 2 top 10 WR and a top TE. What teams looking for QB's can replicate that? I'm not saying Flynn will bust, but we should look at guys like Kolb (did great when in Philly's system) and Cassel (did great in NE's system) before spending too much on a backup in a great system.

 

[Xue]

The question will remain...What can Flynn do outside of Green Bay and their system? They pass protect like crazy and trot out 2 top 10 WR and a top TE. What teams looking for QB's can replicate that? I'm not saying Flynn will bust, but we should look at guys like Kolb (did great when in Philly's system) and Cassel (did great in NE's system) before spending too much on a backup in a great system.

I see Flynn as more Schaub than Kolb.

 

[Scooby1974]

The question will remain...What can Flynn do outside of Green Bay and their system? They pass protect like crazy and trot out 2 top 10 WR and a top TE. What teams looking for QB's can replicate that? I'm not saying Flynn will bust, but we should look at guys like Kolb (did great when in Philly's system) and Cassel (did great in NE's system) before spending too much on a backup in a great system.

I see Flynn as more Schaub than Kolb.

So did the brass in Arizona...

 

[ScottyDog]

What do you guys think about Isaac Redmond for next year with Mendenhall nowing dealing with a long recovery from ACL surgery?

 

[replacements]

If Desean Jackson is not signed, than Riley Cooper could have a nice season next year.Solid wr 3. possibly a 2. Steve Smith could also be productive whether in Philly or if he signs elswhere. I believe he only had a 1 year deal in Philly and is a free agent.

 

[Boone22]

If Desean Jackson is not signed, than Riley Cooper could have a nice season next year.Solid wr 3. possibly a 2. Steve Smith could also be productive whether in Philly or if he signs elswhere. I believe he only had a 1 year deal in Philly and is a free agent.

I agree with this. If Jackson goes, I think Cooper steps in across from Maclin and puts up decent numbers in that offense. Steve Smith was on a 1 year deal and Philly won't re-sign him. I think he goes back to the Giants as their slot guy and Manningham goes somewhere else. Another name I'll throw out is David Gettis. He did pretty well in 2010 as the #2 for Carolina with no real QB. Nobody really stepped up this year with him on IR. with Newton there now, I could see him putting up solid #3-4WR numbers next year.

 

[The Hank]

What do you guys think about Isaac Redmond for next year with Mendenhall nowing dealing with a long recovery from ACL surgery?

Issac Redman has looked excellent in limited time (especially short yardage situations).Depending on how long the rehab is from ACL injury, Redman could find himself starting a few games at the beginning of next year.Could develop into a timeshare a la Carolina Panthers (Williams/Stewart).

 

[Cookiemonster]

What do you guys think about Isaac Redmond for next year with Mendenhall nowing dealing with a long recovery from ACL surgery?

Issac Redman has looked excellent in limited time (especially short yardage situations).Depending on how long the rehab is from ACL injury, Redman could find himself starting a few games at the beginning of next year.Could develop into a timeshare a la Carolina Panthers (Williams/Stewart).

All true points, but Mendy<Williams & Redman<Stewart. I'm really hoping that the Steelers figure out that the Martz passing plan is a good way to kill a great QB and invest in the O line and possibly RB. I don't see any way that Redman is any more than a RB Band Aid and would only roster him in hopes of flipping him for value if he is indeed the starter going into next season. At that, you won't get much for him. Maybe a late 2nd/3rd round rookie pick or a #5 WR prospect. If you need a RB Band Aid (Peterson/Mendy owner) then by all means, grab him.

 

[The Hank]

What do you guys think about Isaac Redmond for next year with Mendenhall nowing dealing with a long recovery from ACL surgery?

Issac Redman has looked excellent in limited time (especially short yardage situations).Depending on how long the rehab is from ACL injury, Redman could find himself starting a few games at the beginning of next year.Could develop into a timeshare a la Carolina Panthers (Williams/Stewart).

All true points, but Mendy<Williams & Redman<Stewart. I'm really hoping that the Steelers figure out that the Martz passing plan is a good way to kill a great QB and invest in the O line and possibly RB. I don't see any way that Redman is any more than a RB Band Aid and would only roster him in hopes of flipping him for value if he is indeed the starter going into next season. At that, you won't get much for him. Maybe a late 2nd/3rd round rookie pick or a #5 WR prospect. If you need a RB Band Aid (Peterson/Mendy owner) then by all means, grab him.

I think that we can both agree that if you draft Mendenhall, you MUST draft Redman early as his handcuff.

 

[JamesTheScot]

The question will remain...What can Flynn do outside of Green Bay and their system? They pass protect like crazy and trot out 2 top 10 WR and a top TE. What teams looking for QB's can replicate that? I'm not saying Flynn will bust, but we should look at guys like Kolb (did great when in Philly's system) and Cassel (did great in NE's system) before spending too much on a backup in a great system.

I see Flynn as more Schaub than Kolb.

That kinda presumes the conclusion rather than proving it, doesn't it?What did Schaub look like before going to Houston compared to Kolb before going to Arizona? Heck, I don't know that there was a difference that was reliably predictive. Hell, we are tossing Kolb in the dust bin after one season with his new team. Kolb could turn it around next year and it wouldn't be the first time that's happened either.Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. I have yet to see anyone point out anything definitive which proves that Flynn will be or won't be a good NFL starter. At this point we've got some people who think he will, some people who think he won't, and neither can actually point to anything in particular that hasn't already been in play with some other back-up QB who ended up doing the exact opposite of what they think Flynn will do. Flynn wouldn't be the first weak-armed QB to overcome that limitation by being a smart gamer or working his ### off. Nor would he be the first back-up to come in in relief and light it up only to move on with a big payday and underwhelm when the scenery changes.Not picking on you, Xue. Just quoted you because your post was the concise epitome' of my point. At this point, the Flynn "debate" is nothing more than an opinion poll.

 

[Scooby1974]

The question will remain...What can Flynn do outside of Green Bay and their system? They pass protect like crazy and trot out 2 top 10 WR and a top TE. What teams looking for QB's can replicate that? I'm not saying Flynn will bust, but we should look at guys like Kolb (did great when in Philly's system) and Cassel (did great in NE's system) before spending too much on a backup in a great system.

I see Flynn as more Schaub than Kolb.

That kinda presumes the conclusion rather than proving it, doesn't it?What did Schaub look like before going to Houston compared to Kolb before going to Arizona? Heck, I don't know that there was a difference that was reliably predictive. Hell, we are tossing Kolb in the dust bin after one season with his new team. Kolb could turn it around next year and it wouldn't be the first time that's happened either.

Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. I have yet to see anyone point out anything definitive which proves that Flynn will be or won't be a good NFL starter. At this point we've got some people who think he will, some people who think he won't, and neither can actually point to anything in particular that hasn't already been in play with some other back-up QB who ended up doing the exact opposite of what they think Flynn will do.

Flynn wouldn't be the first weak-armed QB to overcome that limitation by being a smart gamer or working his ### off. Nor would he be the first back-up to come in in relief and light it up only to move on with a big payday and underwhelm when the scenery changes.

Not picking on you, Xue. Just quoted you because your post was the concise epitome' of my point.

At this point, the Flynn "debate" is nothing more than an opinion poll.

And until he's traded and starting somewhere else next year, that is all the Flynn "debate" will be.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I'm thinking Redman fits the category perfectly. Any setback/delay for Mendy and suddenly Redman might be protect-worthy in many protect league.

-QG

 

[Xue]

That kinda presumes the conclusion rather than proving it, doesn't it?What did Schaub look like before going to Houston compared to Kolb before going to Arizona? Heck, I don't know that there was a difference that was reliably predictive. Hell, we are tossing Kolb in the dust bin after one season with his new team. Kolb could turn it around next year and it wouldn't be the first time that's happened either.Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. I have yet to see anyone point out anything definitive which proves that Flynn will be or won't be a good NFL starter. At this point we've got some people who think he will, some people who think he won't, and neither can actually point to anything in particular that hasn't already been in play with some other back-up QB who ended up doing the exact opposite of what they think Flynn will do. Flynn wouldn't be the first weak-armed QB to overcome that limitation by being a smart gamer or working his ### off. Nor would he be the first back-up to come in in relief and light it up only to move on with a big payday and underwhelm when the scenery changes.Not picking on you, Xue. Just quoted you because your post was the concise epitome' of my point. At this point, the Flynn "debate" is nothing more than an opinion poll.

Agree with what you're saying. But I'm going with my gut and what I see on video. Flynn's delivery is much more compact and quicker than Kolb's is. He's also more mobile. It does help to have played with the receiving weapons that Green Bay has. But, you can say that about any other QB. Also, you can thank the GB coaching staff for his development.At this point. He's a valuable insurance policy at QB for the Pack. Cleveland and Holmgren need to go after Flynn and not take a QB in the draft.

 

[AngryPatriot]

Benson might walk... would Scott be the starter? Curious about the Spiller/Jackson situation too.

 

[Scooby1974]

That kinda presumes the conclusion rather than proving it, doesn't it?What did Schaub look like before going to Houston compared to Kolb before going to Arizona? Heck, I don't know that there was a difference that was reliably predictive. Hell, we are tossing Kolb in the dust bin after one season with his new team. Kolb could turn it around next year and it wouldn't be the first time that's happened either.Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. I have yet to see anyone point out anything definitive which proves that Flynn will be or won't be a good NFL starter. At this point we've got some people who think he will, some people who think he won't, and neither can actually point to anything in particular that hasn't already been in play with some other back-up QB who ended up doing the exact opposite of what they think Flynn will do. Flynn wouldn't be the first weak-armed QB to overcome that limitation by being a smart gamer or working his ### off. Nor would he be the first back-up to come in in relief and light it up only to move on with a big payday and underwhelm when the scenery changes.Not picking on you, Xue. Just quoted you because your post was the concise epitome' of my point. At this point, the Flynn "debate" is nothing more than an opinion poll.

Agree with what you're saying. But I'm going with my gut and what I see on video. Flynn's delivery is much more compact and quicker than Kolb's is. He's also more mobile. It does help to have played with the receiving weapons that Green Bay has. But, you can say that about any other QB. Also, you can thank the GB coaching staff for his development.At this point. He's a valuable insurance policy at QB for the Pack. Cleveland and Holmgren need to go after Flynn and not take a QB in the draft.

For the sake of argument: Matt Cassel got his shot to shine and had to throw to Randy Moss and Wes Welker in their prime.Kevin Kolb got his shot to shine when Philly's system was hitting on all cylinders with a dynamic and fearless DJax, and up and coming Maclin.In time, with the right player moves, in the right positions, right coaching moves, right offensive coordinator, right defensive coordinator, right system, right opponents, right timing...Cassel, Kolb, and perhaps Matt Flynn could be above average QB's in the NFL. Nearly ALL of those things needs to happen in order to get to the top though. COULD it happen? Sure. Will it? We'll see. Cassel and KC took on some injuries and took a big step backwards this year. Kolb was injured a bit and couldn't/didn't/wouldn't get the ball to one of the top 2 WR's in the game.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Benson might walk... would Scott be the starter? Curious about the Spiller/Jackson situation too.

I think the starter is lurking in Round 2 of the draft in April.-QG

 

[FantasyTrader]

Benson might walk... would Scott be the starter? Curious about the Spiller/Jackson situation too.

I think the starter is lurking in Round 2 of the draft in April.-QG

I don't have a link but I could swear I've read some quotes out of Cincy as recently as this past off-season that they don't believe Scott is anything more than insurance to spell Benson. I would imagine that opinion would remain the same even if Benson walks. They'd probably address RB in free agency, the draft or both.

 

[The Hank]

Benson might walk... would Scott be the starter? Curious about the Spiller/Jackson situation too.

I think the starter is lurking in Round 2 of the draft in April.-QG

QG, do you think its possibly Michael Bush ends up in Cincy?

 

[BeTheMatch]

Benson might walk... would Scott be the starter? Curious about the Spiller/Jackson situation too.

I think the starter is lurking in Round 2 of the draft in April.-QG

QG, do you think its possibly Michael Bush ends up in Cincy?

I think the Raiders plan to tag Bush.

 

[The Hank]

Benson might walk... would Scott be the starter? Curious about the Spiller/Jackson situation too.

I think the starter is lurking in Round 2 of the draft in April.-QG

QG, do you think its possibly Michael Bush ends up in Cincy?

I think the Raiders plan to tag Bush.

Franchise or transition?If Franchise, what would be the cap hit for that??

 

[BeTheMatch]

Benson might walk... would Scott be the starter? Curious about the Spiller/Jackson situation too.

I think the starter is lurking in Round 2 of the draft in April.-QG

QG, do you think its possibly Michael Bush ends up in Cincy?

I think the Raiders plan to tag Bush.

Franchise or transition?If Franchise, what would be the cap hit for that??

I think it said franchise. Can't remember where I read that.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I'd say take the best RB they can get for about $3m/year for 2 years in free agency. Michael Bush doesn't fit that I don't think (but oh I wish). I think the Bengals are of the philosophy that you don't spend a ton at the position. This is probably a correct assessment as there always seems to be decent RBs floating around for a reasonable price. Given the new rookie salary structure I think that an RB, even with perhaps one of their first round picks, is much more appealing than it otherwise would be. I wouldn't be surprised if they add just 1 and keep Scott, Leonard, Peerman, and Pressley (FB). I'm not sure when Scott's contract is up though - it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up looking elsewhere, though I tend to think he's at most a 15-carry back in the league.

-QG

 

[scrumptrulescent]

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.

I was under the impression that arm strength wasn't as big a deal anymore. Brees, Brady, Rivers are all guys that didn't have fantastic arms. Nowadays I think teams look for leadership and intangibles over rocket arms.I have a feeling Flynn will be stealing someone's job in 2012.

 

[biju]

It is very relevant. He doesn't have an NFL arm and went where he did because of it.

I was under the impression that arm strength wasn't as big a deal anymore. Brees, Brady, Rivers are all guys that didn't have fantastic arms. Nowadays I think teams look for leadership and intangibles over rocket arms.I have a feeling Flynn will be stealing someone's job in 2012.

There's a lot of discussion on Seahawks message boards that they hope he's taking Tarvaris Jackson's job. The thought is that with a competent arm (and someone that can actually read a defense) Sidney Rice, Mike Williams, Doug Baldwin and Zach Miller would be nasty to couple with a Marshawn Lynch running game and an O-line that is young and improving.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Zach Miller? Is he still allowed to catch passes?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Zach Miller? Is he still allowed to catch passes?

This guy worth trading for? I know the line was a bit banged up but he's vanished from the offense.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Zach Miller? Is he still allowed to catch passes?

This guy worth trading for? I know the line was a bit banged up but he's vanished from the offense.

I'm curious to hear what Seahawks homers think. From an outsider's viewpoint, seems like Carrol is a buffoon. Pay all this money to Zach Miller to do nothing? Bring in Tavaris Jackson?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Zach Miller? Is he still allowed to catch passes?

This guy worth trading for? I know the line was a bit banged up but he's vanished from the offense.

I'm curious to hear what Seahawks homers think. From an outsider's viewpoint, seems like Carrol is a buffoon. Pay all this money to Zach Miller to do nothing? Bring in Tavaris Jackson?

I did read this week where Carroll wants to re-sign impending free agent John Carlson so the two tight ends can compete (bad news for fantasy owners if so)