2012 QB Draft Class (1 Viewer)

[TSB-Rollin]

We are almost through the college season and it's about that time to start judging those quarterbacks that may be entering the upcoming draft. A few of these guys are Juniors, but signs are pointing to their departure. It's really tough to choose between all of these guys. There's a lot of talent here. I want to hear what you guys are thinking. The reason I did 2 polls was because I feel the guys who don't really know much or haven't really watched any of these other guys play will just say Andrew Luck because that's all we have heard about all year. I felt he needed to be taken out of the equation to get a better evaluation of where you guys are leaning. Then, of course, there is the other one with Luck on it.... which I am sure will be in his favor by a ridiculous margin.

I think this draft class (assuming most of these guys go) could be the best quarterback draft class in history. Yeah... I said it. Got a better one? If you do, I'm all ears!

 

[TSB-Rollin]

Oh and if you choose "Other", post who you would take. I'm interested in who you think could top THAT list.

 

[rizzler]

Griffin will have the best career of any player in the draft

... and Luck will, undoubtedly, fail

 

[TSB-Rollin]

Griffin will have the best career of any player in the draft... and Luck will, undoubtedly, fail

LOL! I feel the same way about Luck. He has been praised way too much. It has nothing to do with what I have seen from him. He can make all the throws, he's super smart, and he's athletic... but there's just something about those guys everyone talks about.I'm leaning toward RG3, too... especially after this weekend's performance. I'm at the point I hope the Redskins do bad enough (and are smart enough) to get him. He would fit great in that offense. But then again, I'd still have Beck and Helu starting instead of Grossman and Torain... but what do I know...

 

[rizzler]

Griffin will have the best career of any player in the draft... and Luck will, undoubtedly, fail

LOL! I feel the same way about Luck. He has been praised way too much. It has nothing to do with what I have seen from him. He can make all the throws, he's super smart, and he's athletic... but there's just something about those guys everyone talks about.I'm leaning toward RG3, too... especially after this weekend's performance. I'm at the point I hope the Redskins do bad enough (and are smart enough) to get him. He would fit great in that offense. But then again, I'd still have Beck and Helu starting instead of Grossman and Torain... but what do I know...

What he did to Oklahoma was inhumane. Downright criminal. He is going to destroy in the NFL. Literally.What makes it better, is he will be robbed of the heisman, by Luck.Then proceed to replace that worthless trophy with Lombardi's.

 

[TSB-Rollin]

What he did to Oklahoma was inhumane. Downright criminal. He is going to destroy in the NFL. Literally.What makes it better, is he will be robbed of the heisman, by Luck.Then proceed to replace that worthless trophy with Lombardi's.

Haha! Yeah it was! The man is a baller. I wasn't sure in the beginning of the season because they hadn't really played anyone but TCU. He's clutch, he's accurate, he's fast but wants to stay in the pocket... what can't you love about this guy?Mmmm... Lombardi trophy... Heismans get taken away all the time. Nobody takes away the Lombardi.

 

[GManiac]

We are almost through the college season and it's about that time to start judging those quarterbacks that may be entering the upcoming draft. A few of these guys are Juniors, but signs are pointing to their departure. It's really tough to choose between all of these guys. There's a lot of talent here. I want to hear what you guys are thinking. The reason I did 2 polls was because I feel the guys who don't really know much or haven't really watched any of these other guys play will just say Andrew Luck because that's all we have heard about all year. I felt he needed to be taken out of the equation to get a better evaluation of where you guys are leaning. Then, of course, there is the other one with Luck on it.... which I am sure will be in his favor by a ridiculous margin. I think this draft class (assuming most of these guys go) could be the best quarterback draft class in history. Yeah... I said it. Got a better one? If you do, I'm all ears!

Im still waiting on the 2011 QB draft class. Cam Newton, Dalton, Ponder, Gabbert, Kaepernick, Mallet, Jake Locker.Cam Newton - FreakDalton - Great Rookie Season Ponder - The talent is there to be a top level Pro. I think better than Dalton personally.Gabbert - Has not looked good. Still has a lot of skills though. I think he's the bust of the group though.Kaepernick - Very raw but a good upside. Could really surprise in a year or two. Or not.Mallet - If he learns under Brady and really really pays attention, he could take over and continue a legacy. The arm is there for sure.Locker - Great athlete. Great arm. Great mobility. Lousy accuracy. I think he stands a great chance of being the 2nd bust of this group.If Newton is for real, and Dalton and Ponder continue to improve, and any of the other 4 turn into a long term starter, I think we will look back at this draft class and consider it as one of if not the best QB draft class in quite some time at least.Luck might be better than Newton even. But overall based on quantity and depth. I don't know.

 

[lynx4ben]

Griffin will have the best career of any player in the draft... and Luck will, undoubtedly, fail

LOL! I feel the same way about Luck. He has been praised way too much. It has nothing to do with what I have seen from him. He can make all the throws, he's super smart, and he's athletic... but there's just something about those guys everyone talks about.I'm leaning toward RG3, too... especially after this weekend's performance. I'm at the point I hope the Redskins do bad enough (and are smart enough) to get him. He would fit great in that offense. But then again, I'd still have Beck and Helu starting instead of Grossman and Torain... but what do I know...

Did you have this typed up in advance?

 

[eakfootball]

1. Andrew Luck. See him as somewhere in between Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan.

2. Robert Griffen III. Riskier pick, but he has shown he can make pro style throws, and has incredible running ability. Strong armed, and throws a beautiful deep ball. Griffen has the potential to be a franchise QB for years to come. My concerns are in intermediate passes across the middle, and his slim build. Although he throws for a lot of yards, many of them come on dump offs, and Griffen has not proven throws in the 15-25 yard range. At 6'2 220 he has below average size, but it is good enough. If Griffen had the size of Cam Newton he would be the #2 prospect at any position after Luck. The small size, combined with being an elite runner could cause Griffen to miss a few games each year, like Michael Vick does, as he is only two inches taller and 5 pounds hevier than Vick, whose build is always a concern. But in the big picture Griffen is a legit top 5 pick.

 

[TSB-Rollin]

Griffin will have the best career of any player in the draft... and Luck will, undoubtedly, fail

LOL! I feel the same way about Luck. He has been praised way too much. It has nothing to do with what I have seen from him. He can make all the throws, he's super smart, and he's athletic... but there's just something about those guys everyone talks about.I'm leaning toward RG3, too... especially after this weekend's performance. I'm at the point I hope the Redskins do bad enough (and are smart enough) to get him. He would fit great in that offense. But then again, I'd still have Beck and Helu starting instead of Grossman and Torain... but what do I know...

Did you have this typed up in advance?

? I don't get it... ?

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Barkley is quickly coming to the head of the class but there is also the question about he'll even be a part of this draft class. Same with Griffin.

 

[TSB-Rollin]

Im still waiting on the 2011 QB draft class. Cam Newton, Dalton, Ponder, Gabbert, Kaepernick, Mallet, Jake Locker.

Cam Newton - Freak (Agreed... no better word for him)

Dalton - Great Rookie Season (Agreed... as intelligent and careful with the ball, as I expected coming out. Maybe not a star, but a solid starting QB)

Ponder - The talent is there to be a top level Pro. I think better than Dalton personally. (Loaded with talent but so hit-and-miss at Florida State, I still wonder about him. Decision-making can be an issue)

Gabbert - Has not looked good. Still has a lot of skills though. I think he's the bust of the group though. (He does have a lot of skill and may just be a slow starter. Not a lot of faith here, though)

Kaepernick - Very raw but a good upside. Could really surprise in a year or two. Or not. (Leaning towards "or not", but haven't seen much)

Mallet - If he learns under Brady and really really pays attention, he could take over and continue a legacy. The arm is there for sure. (Nobody questions the arm. And between being in NE and sitting behind Brady instead of starting, maybe all his personality issues go away. That was the only thing holding this kid back)

Locker - Great athlete. Great arm. Great mobility. Lousy accuracy. I think he stands a great chance of being the 2nd bust of this group. (He does but every time I have seen him play, from preseason to having to step in for Hasselbeck this past Sunday, he has done nothing but impress. Tough situation this week and he handled it as well as you could ask.)

If Newton is for real, and Dalton and Ponder continue to improve, and any of the other 4 turn into a long term starter, I think we will look back at this draft class and consider it as one of if not the best QB draft class in quite some time at least.

Luck might be better than Newton even. But overall based on quantity and depth. I don't know.

I agree that this class has been one of the best in a while. Especially since it was touted one of the worst, entering the draft. However, I do feel that this one will be even better. Assuming the underclassmen go in, it's hard to believe there won't be at least 4 top-tier quarterbacks, with a possibility of 6 or more. Good points about the 2011 draft though!

 

[TSB-Rollin]

1. Andrew Luck. See him as somewhere in between Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan.2. Robert Griffen III. Riskier pick, but he has shown he can make pro style throws, and has incredible running ability. Strong armed, and throws a beautiful deep ball. Griffen has the potential to be a franchise QB for years to come. My concerns are in intermediate passes across the middle, and his slim build. Although he throws for a lot of yards, many of them come on dump offs, and Griffen has not proven throws in the 15-25 yard range. At 6'2 220 he has below average size, but it is good enough. If Griffen had the size of Cam Newton he would be the #2 prospect at any position after Luck. The small size, combined with being an elite runner could cause Griffen to miss a few games each year, like Michael Vick does, as he is only two inches taller and 5 pounds hevier than Vick, whose build is always a concern. But in the big picture Griffen is a legit top 5 pick.

I like your analysis on both guys. RG3 is definitely risky because it can sometimes be deceiving coming out of a school like Baylor. Their competition hasn't been great this year, but it's hard to overlook what he did to Oklahoma. That game sold me on him.As well as he throws the deep ball (absolutely amazing), I have confidence a good NFL QB coach can work out any of his mid-range issues. He does have a size issue that a lot of people have a problem with. That's the kind of thing you hear over and over and doesn't always end up an issue. Drew Brees was too short (6'0). Warrick Dunn was too small to last (5'9 187lbs), but he ran the ball for 12 years. Griffin is an elite runner, but he stays in the pocket as long as he can. He doesn't want to run. His first choice is to pass, which puts him about 6 years ahead of Vick, entering the league.

 

[brewer]

We are almost through the college season and it's about that time to start judging those quarterbacks that may be entering the upcoming draft. A few of these guys are Juniors, but signs are pointing to their departure. It's really tough to choose between all of these guys. There's a lot of talent here. I want to hear what you guys are thinking. The reason I did 2 polls was because I feel the guys who don't really know much or haven't really watched any of these other guys play will just say Andrew Luck because that's all we have heard about all year. I felt he needed to be taken out of the equation to get a better evaluation of where you guys are leaning. Then, of course, there is the other one with Luck on it.... which I am sure will be in his favor by a ridiculous margin. I think this draft class (assuming most of these guys go) could be the best quarterback draft class in history. Yeah... I said it. Got a better one? If you do, I'm all ears!

1983 is still the standard for QB class:Three Hall of FamersDan MarinoJohn ElwayJim KellyplusKen O'Brien - 10 years, 110 starts, 25k yardsTony Eason - 8 years, started 51 gamesTodd Blackledge - 7 years, started 29 games

 

[mr roboto]

We are almost through the college season and it's about that time to start judging those quarterbacks that may be entering the upcoming draft. A few of these guys are Juniors, but signs are pointing to their departure. It's really tough to choose between all of these guys. There's a lot of talent here. I want to hear what you guys are thinking. The reason I did 2 polls was because I feel the guys who don't really know much or haven't really watched any of these other guys play will just say Andrew Luck because that's all we have heard about all year. I felt he needed to be taken out of the equation to get a better evaluation of where you guys are leaning. Then, of course, there is the other one with Luck on it.... which I am sure will be in his favor by a ridiculous margin. I think this draft class (assuming most of these guys go) could be the best quarterback draft class in history. Yeah... I said it. Got a better one? If you do, I'm all ears!

1983 is still the standard for QB class:Three Hall of FamersDan MarinoJohn ElwayJim KellyplusKen O'Brien - 10 years, 110 starts, 25k yardsTony Eason - 8 years, started 51 gamesTodd Blackledge - 7 years, started 29 games

Yea. 83 is nuts.04 had Rivers, Gomer Manning, Big Ben, and Schaub. I think if 2011 beats out 04, that's quite an accomplishment. It will never beat out 1983 though.

 

[jonboltz]

Really hoping that Barkley and Luck end up in fantastic situations and RG3 goes to a team where he will be expected to sit a couple years. I don't have much draft picks in my dynasty league, and would need RG3 to fall to the early 3rd!

 

[FUBAR]

I'm hedging and saying Jones - with the caveat that he must end up on a team with a good QB coach. With proper mentoring, he can be a beast.

The interesting thing here, IMO is which conference will have more success - PAC 10 or Big XII?

Luck and Barkely vs. Griffin, Tannehill, Jones and Weeden.

 

[TSB-Rollin]

We are almost through the college season and it's about that time to start judging those quarterbacks that may be entering the upcoming draft. A few of these guys are Juniors, but signs are pointing to their departure. It's really tough to choose between all of these guys. There's a lot of talent here. I want to hear what you guys are thinking. The reason I did 2 polls was because I feel the guys who don't really know much or haven't really watched any of these other guys play will just say Andrew Luck because that's all we have heard about all year. I felt he needed to be taken out of the equation to get a better evaluation of where you guys are leaning. Then, of course, there is the other one with Luck on it.... which I am sure will be in his favor by a ridiculous margin. I think this draft class (assuming most of these guys go) could be the best quarterback draft class in history. Yeah... I said it. Got a better one? If you do, I'm all ears!

1983 is still the standard for QB class:Three Hall of FamersDan MarinoJohn ElwayJim KellyplusKen O'Brien - 10 years, 110 starts, 25k yardsTony Eason - 8 years, started 51 gamesTodd Blackledge - 7 years, started 29 games

Yea. 83 is nuts.04 had Rivers, Gomer Manning, Big Ben, and Schaub. I think if 2011 beats out 04, that's quite an accomplishment. It will never beat out 1983 though.

Both of you had good ones. '83, without a doubt, was insane. 04 may have some HOFs in there. Rivers needs to turn it around and the other 2 need to get more consistent, but there's a potential for 4. 2 of those guys already have rings. '83 only has 1 guy with a ring. I think there's good potential for the same numbers in this class. We won't know for another 10 years, for sure, but that's why I feel this draft class could be the best. I don't remember this much talent coming in. I could have still put more quarterbacks in the poll.

 

[TSB-Rollin]

Really hoping that Barkley and Luck end up in fantastic situations and RG3 goes to a team where he will be expected to sit a couple years. I don't have much draft picks in my dynasty league, and would need RG3 to fall to the early 3rd!

So you're high enough on him to keep him in your pocket for 2 years? That's faith!

 

[TSB-Rollin]

I'm hedging and saying Jones - with the caveat that he must end up on a team with a good QB coach. With proper mentoring, he can be a beast.The interesting thing here, IMO is which conference will have more success - PAC 10 or Big XII?Luck and Barkely vs. Griffin, Tannehill, Jones and Weeden.

I liked Jones a lot coming into the season, but I think he could use another year. If he goes into the NFL and sits for a year, that may work. I just feel he needs a little more experience under his belt. The talent is there, for sure.That's a tough question... I'm thinking it evens out. I'm not 100% on anyone other than Griffin in the Big 12. Barkley I'm iffy on, just because he's from USC and not many have panned out - but that's just my bias. I still like the kid, though, and I think he will break that mold. I'm thinking 2 and 2.

 

[eakfootball]

Barkley is quickly coming to the head of this class