2013 Dynasty "Sell High" (1 Viewer)

[The Captain]

So, anyone OTHER than Cobb worth discussing? I'm thinking of selling Hernandez in PPR. What kind of WR can I expect in return?

 

[thriftyrocker]

So, anyone OTHER than Cobb worth discussing? I'm thinking of selling Hernandez in PPR. What kind of WR can I expect in return?

I don't think that qualifies as a sell high either.

 

[finito]

So, anyone OTHER than Cobb worth discussing? I'm thinking of selling Hernandez in PPR. What kind of WR can I expect in return?

I don't think that qualifies as a sell high either.

For Hernandez I think you could get a decent #2 WR probably.

 

[MAC_32]

Yeah, Andrew Hawkins is just as good as Cobb. Limited slot WR that sees most of his targets within five yards of the line. Ok.

He didn't say Cobb was a bad slot receiver.

If I were to isolate bad slots i would have said mike Thomas or harry douglas, maybe mccluster. Not Hawkins, he is good. Guys like Cobb and Harvin are just on a whole different level.

 

[Concept Coop]

So, anyone OTHER than Cobb worth discussing? I'm thinking of selling Hernandez in PPR. What kind of WR can I expect in return?

I don't think that qualifies as a sell high either.

 

[Instinctive]

So, anyone OTHER than Cobb worth discussing? I'm thinking of selling Hernandez in PPR. What kind of WR can I expect in return?

I don't think that qualifies as a sell high either.

I was thinking more like a buy low. I'd throw some offers at Hernandez owners and see what comes back

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

What do you guys think about Crabtree? Sell high or is this the start of a great career?

 

[Andrew74]

What do you guys think about Crabtree? Sell high or is this the start of a great career?

I see nothing that says this is a fluke. He has talent and has been hampered by injuries. With Kaepernick at the helm, I think he can put up solid numbers.

 

[Concept Coop]

What do you guys think about Crabtree? Sell high or is this the start of a great career?

I see nothing that says this is a fluke. He has talent and has been hampered by injuries. With Kaepernick at the helm, I think he can put up solid numbers.

Agree. He has a case for a top 12ish ranking and I'd doubt you'd get that value until he does it again.

 

[Psychopav]

What do you guys think about Crabtree? Sell high or is this the start of a great career?

I see nothing that says this is a fluke. He has talent and has been hampered by injuries. With Kaepernick at the helm, I think he can put up solid numbers.

Agree. He has a case for a top 12ish ranking and I'd doubt you'd get that value until he does it again.

His effort after the catch is very solid as well. His value should rise as he and Kaepernick continue to develop rapport. I imagine this time next year he could possibly be a 'sell high', but at this time he's probably still somewhat undervalued imo.

 

[ShaHBucks]

What do you guys think about Crabtree? Sell high or is this the start of a great career?

I see nothing that says this is a fluke. He has talent and has been hampered by injuries. With Kaepernick at the helm, I think he can put up solid numbers.

Agree. He has a case for a top 12ish ranking and I'd doubt you'd get that value until he does it again.

His effort after the catch is very solid as well. His value should rise as he and Kaepernick continue to develop rapport. I imagine this time next year he could possibly be a 'sell high', but at this time he's probably still somewhat undervalued imo.

Boldin was a sling shot. AJ Jenkins and Quinton Patton are like nuclear bombs to Crabs value 2013+. 49's are getting pretty savvy. If Patton and/or Jenkins break out I'm not sure they pay Crab after this year. It's getting crowded..I was looking over this thread and no one mentioned BJGE. His value was just about cut in half at best. Blount and Vereen would make me move Ridley. Amad Bradshaw will likely cut into someones value soon. I've been landing Zac Stacy everywhere, I hope he doesn't go to STL.

 

[cstu]

What do you guys think about Crabtree? Sell high or is this the start of a great career?

I see nothing that says this is a fluke. He has talent and has been hampered by injuries. With Kaepernick at the helm, I think he can put up solid numbers.

Agree. He has a case for a top 12ish ranking and I'd doubt you'd get that value until he does it again.

His effort after the catch is very solid as well. His value should rise as he and Kaepernick continue to develop rapport. I imagine this time next year he could possibly be a 'sell high', but at this time he's probably still somewhat undervalued imo.

Boldin was a sling shot. AJ Jenkins and Quinton Patton are like nuclear bombs to Crabs value 2013+. 49's are getting pretty savvy. If Patton and/or Jenkins break out I'm not sure they pay Crab after this year. It's getting crowded..I was looking over this thread and no one mentioned BJGE. His value was just about cut in half at best.Blount and Vereen would make me move Ridley.Amad Bradshaw will likely cut into someones value soon. I've been landing Zac Stacy everywhere, I hope he doesn't go to STL.

I think it's going to be a matter of priorities for the 49ers - they have Kaep, Aldon Smith, Anthony Davis, and Iupati to re-sign in the next couple of years. Unless Crabtree has changed, I don't see him giving the 49ers any hometown discount to stay. I'm sure the 49ers would love to keep him but I don't think WR is a high priority for them.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Anyone selling Ray Rice?

 

[FF Ninja]

I think it's going to be a matter of priorities for the 49ers - they have Kaep, Aldon Smith, Anthony Davis, and Iupati to re-sign in the next couple of years. Unless Crabtree has changed, I don't see him giving the 49ers any hometown discount to stay. I'm sure the 49ers would love to keep him but I don't think WR is a high priority for them.

Moving to a new offense would realistically be the best for Crabtree. His targets last season when Kaepernick took over are not sustainable in that offense. During that span Vernon Davis only saw 2.2 targets per game. I was a big proponent of Crabtree last year (as a value play, not a crazy break out candidate), but I'm not optimistic he holds up as a top 12 or top 15 WR this year.

 

[pghrob]

My team is pretty well stacked in all positions. Thinking about mayber trading Arian Foster. Wondering what people are getting for him. Selling now might not be high as say before his 2012 performance, but still would be higher if he continues to regress from 2011highs. I checked the other thread about is it time to trade Foster but am not seeing much there. I am contending for titles with him or without him. Or I may just ride him until the wheels fall off rather than trade him to another team where he can hurt me if he does not have a precipitous drop in performance. After all, even his "down" year last year was pretty good, just not as good compared to his best.

 

[Sleeper 43]

My vote goes to Ray Rice. It was scary owning him in so many Dynasty leagues last year and watching Pierce come in and be just as effective if not better.

 

[finito]

My vote goes to Ray Rice. It was scary owning him in so many Dynasty leagues last year and watching Pierce come in and be just as effective if not better.

I actually bought Ray Rice in a couple of leagues this year based on that perception. I did get Pierce as part of the deal, but still feel we have several good/great years left from him.

 

[cstu]

I think it's going to be a matter of priorities for the 49ers - they have Kaep, Aldon Smith, Anthony Davis, and Iupati to re-sign in the next couple of years. Unless Crabtree has changed, I don't see him giving the 49ers any hometown discount to stay. I'm sure the 49ers would love to keep him but I don't think WR is a high priority for them.

Moving to a new offense would realistically be the best for Crabtree. His targets last season when Kaepernick took over are not sustainable in that offense. During that span Vernon Davis only saw 2.2 targets per game. I was a big proponent of Crabtree last year (as a value play, not a crazy break out candidate), but I'm not optimistic he holds up as a top 12 or top 15 WR this year.

For me it depends on how Kaepernick develops. Last year he locked onto Crabtree and unless he's better at looking for other receivers this year I can see Crabtree still getting a ton of targets - although maybe not quite as many as last year.

 

[ShaHBucks]

My vote goes to Ray Rice. It was scary owning him in so many Dynasty leagues last year and watching Pierce come in and be just as effective if not better.

I actually bought Ray Rice in a couple of leagues this year based on that perception. I did get Pierce as part of the deal, but still feel we have several good/great years left from him.

I just talked McCoy owner into giving me a early 2nd and a 2014 3rd for Bryce Brown. We went back and forth until I said there is no one on your board that's more valuable than McCoy insurance outside of maybe a top 5 pick. And Brown has more talent than the player I'm trading to grab, Zac Stacy. Pierce is a must own if you have Rice. As of today, if can't get Levon Bell I would debate giving up my 1st for Pierce in a rookie draft. Pierce stated to look better than Rice and Cam Cameron is gone. Noway he gets the same workload. This year if I owned Charles, Knile Davis is a top 5 player on my board like Rice and Pierce, Brashaw and Wilson, or Bush and Miller last year. Side note- Finding a rb than isn't apart of a split backfield will be crucial this year.

 

[Tool]

i skimmed through some of this thread. Is Cobb still a sell w/ jennings gone? Doesn't seem that way to me but others seem to think so?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

i skimmed through some of this thread. Is Cobb still a sell w/ jennings gone? Doesn't seem that way to me but others seem to think so?

Tons of people see him as a top 10 dynasty WR -- I'm not one of em, so yeah he's a sell in my book. Jordy Nelson is the buy IMO -- less expensive than Cobb and vastly under-rated as a player. Jordy's the guy who will put up 80-1200-10 (or better) there the next few years IMO.

 

[az_prof]

Sell Gronkowski - two seasons cut short due to injury,leaving fantasy teamswithout the star TE during the fantasy playoffs each year..but more importantly, he appears to be injury prone, dating back to his college days..great player when healthy,scores buckets of TDs..relative to his lofty ADP , you'd expect a lot more out of him..at 6'6,265lbs, with the way he plays, it's going to be tough to keep him healthy for an entire 16 game schedule.I'd let someone else deal with the injuries..depending on whether or not the Ravens hire a new OC, I'd say Ray Rice is a sell high for 2013..

I agree with Ray Rice but this year was the first time Gronk has missed a game. I hope you are in my league and selling!

Gronk's injuries keep piling up on that arm. That scares me.

As for Rice, I can't help but see him as a Curtis Martin clone. I think the guy plays well into his early 30s.

 

[cstu]

i skimmed through some of this thread. Is Cobb still a sell w/ jennings gone? Doesn't seem that way to me but others seem to think so?

Tons of people see him as a top 10 dynasty WR -- I'm not one of em, so yeah he's a sell in my book. Jordy Nelson is the buy IMO -- less expensive than Cobb and vastly under-rated as a player. Jordy's the guy who will put up 80-1200-10 (or better) there the next few years IMO.

He's younger than Tavon Austin and has the best QB in football throwing him the ball in his prime. What's not to like?

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

My vote goes to Ray Rice. It was scary owning him in so many Dynasty leagues last year and watching Pierce come in and be just as effective if not better.

I actually bought Ray Rice in a couple of leagues this year based on that perception. I did get Pierce as part of the deal, but still feel we have several good/great years left from him.

Rice is significantly more dynamic than Pierce. Pierce, to me, is just a pretty good RB, I would even call him above average. Nothing wrong with that. I think he can be very effective as a wear them down kind of guy, he runs strong. I don't see any great agility and he is lightly used in the passing game. I think Pierce seems a bit overrated on this message board.

Rice got 254 carries and 61 receptions through 15 weeks. That is 21 touches per game, and he actually got a bit more per game from weeks 9-16 than he did in weeks 1-7 (not including week 17 when Baltimore sat their starters). I have no problem with that level of use, and I think he will be right around there for several years.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Chris Johnson time to sell? 28 year old speed back that everyone is high on this year with the new guards Levitre and Warmack and commitment to run.

What players are you looking for?

1.9 and a 1st next year? Top 6 pick...

 

[Jedimaster21]

My vote goes to Ray Rice. It was scary owning him in so many Dynasty leagues last year and watching Pierce come in and be just as effective if not better.

I actually bought Ray Rice in a couple of leagues this year based on that perception. I did get Pierce as part of the deal, but still feel we have several good/great years left from him.

Rice is significantly more dynamic than Pierce. Pierce, to me, is just a pretty good RB, I would even call him above average. Nothing wrong with that. I think he can be very effective as a wear them down kind of guy, he runs strong. I don't see any great agility and he is lightly used in the passing game. I think Pierce seems a bit overrated on this message board. Rice got 254 carries and 61 receptions through 15 weeks. That is 21 touches per game, and he actually got a bit more per game from weeks 9-16 than he did in weeks 1-7 (not including week 17 when Baltimore sat their starters). I have no problem with that level of use, and I think he will be right around there for several years.

Actually, Pierce appears more dynamic to me. He isn't going to take the job from Rice due to his versatility and reliability, but Rice isn't a dynamic player. The other point to remember is the jump that 2nd year players take when the game slows down...Pierce is one to watch. The problem is you will just have to be patient. As for selling high on Rice, I think it may be worth checking into, but certainly hard to trade a player that productive.

 

[eaglesfan7]

Chris Johnson time to sell? 28 year old speed back that everyone is high on this year with the new guards Levitre and Warmack and commitment to run.What players are you looking for? 1.9 and a 1st next year? Top 6 pick...

I was offered cj for my 1.05 and 2.05 this year. Not sure if I'm doing it. Waiting to see who is available at the pick and then might do it. Would you rather have montee ball or cj?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

My vote goes to Ray Rice. It was scary owning him in so many Dynasty leagues last year and watching Pierce come in and be just as effective if not better.

I actually bought Ray Rice in a couple of leagues this year based on that perception. I did get Pierce as part of the deal, but still feel we have several good/great years left from him.

Rice is significantly more dynamic than Pierce. Pierce, to me, is just a pretty good RB, I would even call him above average. Nothing wrong with that. I think he can be very effective as a wear them down kind of guy, he runs strong. I don't see any great agility and he is lightly used in the passing game. I think Pierce seems a bit overrated on this message board. Rice got 254 carries and 61 receptions through 15 weeks. That is 21 touches per game, and he actually got a bit more per game from weeks 9-16 than he did in weeks 1-7 (not including week 17 when Baltimore sat their starters). I have no problem with that level of use, and I think he will be right around there for several years.

Actually, Pierce appears more dynamic to me. He isn't going to take the job from Rice due to his versatility and reliability, but Rice isn't a dynamic player. The other point to remember is the jump that 2nd year players take when the game slows down...Pierce is one to watch.The problem is you will just have to be patient. As for selling high on Rice, I think it may be worth checking into, but certainly hard to trade a player that productive.

I am a big fan of Pierce, if you are holding him expecting him to be dealt or as a Rice handcuff that makes sense to me but people who think that hes going to unseat Rice are deluding themselves. Pierce and Daryl Richardson were very similar last year in that they had very different running styles than the backs in front of them and they benefited greatly from it. They also commanded much less of the defenses attention. The biggest difference is Sjax is gone and Ray Rice is 26 and signed through the next 4 years.

If anything I see players like Mccoy and Rice, who may have 4+ years ahead of them as great buy low targets

 

[cstu]

Chris Johnson time to sell? 28 year old speed back that everyone is high on this year with the new guards Levitre and Warmack and commitment to run.What players are you looking for?1.9 and a 1st next year? Top 6 pick...

I was offered cj for my 1.05 and 2.05 this year. Not sure if I'm doing it. Waiting to see who is available at the pick and then might do it. Would you rather have montee ball or cj?

I'd rather have Bernard, Bell and the top 3 WR's over CJ.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Yeah i'm more trying to get a 1st from a bad team for next year.

Chris Johnson time to sell? 28 year old speed back that everyone is high on this year with the new guards Levitre and Warmack and commitment to run.What players are you looking for?1.9 and a 1st next year? Top 6 pick...

I was offered cj for my 1.05 and 2.05 this year. Not sure if I'm doing it. Waiting to see who is available at the pick and then might do it. Would you rather have montee ball or cj?

 

[robertdts]

I moved Ray Rice for Dez Bryant and a late 2nd in our 2013 rookie draft. Benard Pierce concerns me, and with the coin they shelled out to Flacco, believe the focus of the offense may dramatically shift away from the consistent ground game we've come to know and love in Baltimore.