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2013 Hot Stove & Capella's Fabulous Cornhole Thread (2 Viewers)

MLB and NPB officially agree on the $20mm max. posting system. Good for NPB players, good for MLB teams, bad for NPB teams and especially Rakuten, who stand to lose 50mm+ via Tanaka.

Rakuten are urging Tanaka to stay one more year, but they don't want to force his hand.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Looks like he's coming:

http://www.sanspo.com/baseball/news/20131217/gol13121705070005-n1.html
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Mr. Marr Major Transfers decisive! Rakuten Miki valley owners accepted

Dream of Mr. Marr be fulfilled. Tanaka direct appeal again to the major-oriented team. poised team also tolerate enlarge]

For the United States Major League Baseball challenge Tanaka, initially was Miki valley team owners were stating "young people to challenge to the United States is personally a good thing," but the maximum amount of new Transfer system becomes more and more evident , and changed course in that it is "not going to go." However, should not be at the expense of the dream of athletes will lead the next generation in the final phase - seen it likened to the guidelines of their own, and had made a wise decision.

Taken together the story of officials Rakuten headquarters, temporary in the organization is opinion that "should not send the Tanaka" spread that was (spread). However, the probing such a situation, it's began to dispel the concern one by one over a period of time that was the same owner at the top of the organization.

In addition, thought be in the team to aim the second consecutive next season Pacific League, and allowed to remain Tanaka which is lower the motivation of not a good idea for both Tanaka and team also seems to have a significant impact.

MLB mechanism (NPB) Nippon Professional Baseball (MLB) to co-announce the conclusion of a new system moved in the morning on the 17th. Tanaka, met with team president Yozo Tachibana on the same day in response to this. Tell again the intention of the major challenges to the team, the team is poised to tolerate in the end while exchange views with Tanaka.

There was a (Uyo) bent beating around the bush. Old posting system (bidding system), rather than the upper limit of the bid money, the team that can be negotiated only one team that made a successful bid. Affiliation baseball team in Japan, set to the maximum amount $ 20,000,000 (about 2 billion 60 million yen) to the "money moved" receive from the U.S. team to win the players, the players and the U.S. baseball team of all in response to it in the new system negotiable. In the U.S. media, the bid amount is also reported 6.0 billion if the old system, to produce as much as 40 billion yen to open and about 2 billion yen of new Transfer system. This has been a "failure" large disadvantageous for optimism side
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So it appears that any team willing to post the fee will be able to negotiate with him. Bad news for teams like LA and NY I think. Can't go nuts on the non-taxed posting fee then have exclusive negotiations.

 
the moops said:
So it appears that any team willing to post the fee will be able to negotiate with him. Bad news for teams like LA and NY I think. Can't go nuts on the non-taxed posting fee then have exclusive negotiations.
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Wouldn't this just help big market teams? They have to pay out less upfront money for a posting fee . . . yet they have the purchasing power that they wield over the rest of the league beyond that. So they could just outbid the rest of the teams and offer a monster contract that the Milwaukees, Kansas Cities, and Tampas probably couldn't offer.

 
Anarchy99 said:
the moops said:
So it appears that any team willing to post the fee will be able to negotiate with him. Bad news for teams like LA and NY I think. Can't go nuts on the non-taxed posting fee then have exclusive negotiations.
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Wouldn't this just help big market teams? They have to pay out less upfront money for a posting fee . . . yet they have the purchasing power that they wield over the rest of the league beyond that. So they could just outbid the rest of the teams and offer a monster contract that the Milwaukees, Kansas Cities, and Tampas probably couldn't offer.
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The new system eliminates a loophole where high posting fees were not included for luxury tax purposes. But it will also do away with the situation that Iwakuma had when he and the A's were unable to come up with a mutually acceptable deal.

Tanaka will end up with a big team but he would have done so in either the old or new system. You can't really make mature professionals from other countries subject to the amateur draft.

 
He is just like any other free agent now. The 20 mill posting fee will be a sunk cost that most teams will be willing to eat.

Small market teams still have no shot, but mid-tier teams don't have to fork over 100 mill in posting fees on top of the contract.

Just like with Cano I could easily see a Seattle or Cleveland or someone like that blowing their wad for him

 
the moops said:
Just like with Cano I could easily see a Seattle or Cleveland or someone like that blowing their wad for him
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Isn't Seattle below their Asian quota?

Besides that, I think it's a lock that Seattle will be in on the race. They're completely all in now and the lock for their checkbook is missing.

 
Paulymaggs said:
I like the work Hahn's doing. A massive upgrade from the Kenny Williams era.
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He's cut a lot of payroll and added some decent pieces in return. Their pitching may not be good enough to beat the Twins at this point so hopefully he has as long a leash as Kenny did.

 
Sanspo: Rakuten owner Hiroshi Mikitani will allow Masahiro Tanaka to come to the major leagues this winter

http://www.sanspo.co...5070005-n1.html

 
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This offseason serves as a good reminder to train your child at an early age to throw a baseball with his left hand.

 
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Yanks sign yet another injury prone player, Brian Roberts to $2m deal. I dont get this at all. Theyll just need another 2B a month into the season.

 
Paulymaggs said:
I like the work Hahn's doing. A massive upgrade from the Kenny Williams era.
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It sucks. Bring back Williams. I prefer the White Sox to be mediocre disasters, I don't like these smaller, smarter moves at all.

 
the moops said:
Yanks trying to recreate the 2005 AllStar team

Arod, Roberts, Teixeira, Ichiro, Soriano.

Is Tejada a free agent?
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I believe he is available but just got suspended in the Dominican Winter League. Of course, he's still suspended by MLB and has to sit out another 64 MLB games before he could play. He'd look good in pinstripes.

 
The Yankees sign Matt Thornton 2/$7M. At 37, he's apparently the oldest LOOGY available.

I'm surprised by the second year. His SO/9 numbers have been in decline for three years running and he wasn't even included on the Red Sox' playoff roster last year.

 
shadyridr said:
Yanks sign yet another injury prone player, Brian Roberts to $2m deal. I dont get this at all. Theyll just need another 2B a month into the season.
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I actually don't think that's a bad low cost with some reward move. If he gives them 120 games of hitting .275 to .280 it will be a nice signing. It's a big if as far as his health but worth it at this point.

 
Eephus said:
The Yankees sign Matt Thornton 2/$7M. At 37, he's apparently the oldest LOOGY available.

I'm surprised by the second year. His SO/9 numbers have been in decline for three years running and he wasn't even included on the Red Sox' playoff roster last year.
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That one seems like too much for too little production.

 
SwampDawg said:
shadyridr said:
Yanks sign yet another injury prone player, Brian Roberts to $2m deal. I dont get this at all. Theyll just need another 2B a month into the season.
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I actually don't think that's a bad low cost with some reward move. If he gives them 120 games of hitting .275 to .280 it will be a nice signing. It's a big if as far as his health but worth it at this point.
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Well of course if he gives them 120 games of typical Roberts production it will be a nice signing. But he has played just a hair over 120 games the past 3 years combined

 
Grant Balfour to the Orioles for 2/$14M.

The A's and O's effectively traded closers with Jemile Weeks thrown in.

 
SwampDawg said:
shadyridr said:
Yanks sign yet another injury prone player, Brian Roberts to $2m deal. I dont get this at all. Theyll just need another 2B a month into the season.
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I actually don't think that's a bad low cost with some reward move. If he gives them 120 games of hitting .275 to .280 it will be a nice signing. It's a big if as far as his health but worth it at this point.
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Brian Roberts playing 120 games? I'd rather bet on the Astros winning it all this year.

 
the moops said:
SwampDawg said:
shadyridr said:
Yanks sign yet another injury prone player, Brian Roberts to $2m deal. I dont get this at all. Theyll just need another 2B a month into the season.
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I actually don't think that's a bad low cost with some reward move. If he gives them 120 games of hitting .275 to .280 it will be a nice signing. It's a big if as far as his health but worth it at this point.
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Well of course if he gives them 120 games of typical Roberts production it will be a nice signing. But he has played just a hair over 120 games the past 3 years combined
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Not to mention that he hasn't hit over .250 in any season since 2010, so a bit of a leap to expect .275 to .280.

 
SwampDawg said:
shadyridr said:
Yanks sign yet another injury prone player, Brian Roberts to $2m deal. I dont get this at all. Theyll just need another 2B a month into the season.
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I actually don't think that's a bad low cost with some reward move. If he gives them 120 games of hitting .275 to .280 it will be a nice signing. It's a big if as far as his health but worth it at this point.
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120 games? I thought it was only a one yr deal
 
The Cubs came to an agreement with former Astros closer Jose Veras on a one-year, $4 million deal Tuesday, a major league source said.

Veras’ deal is for $3.85 million plus a $150,000 buyout clause, and includes a $5.5 million option for 2015. He’ll also have a chance to earned player bonuses worth $750,000 based on significant games finished.

Veras, who must pass a physical, is the likely closer for the Cubs, which would mean Pedro Strop would continue to be used as the primary setup man. He’s the second reliever signed by the Cubs in the past two days, after Wright agreed to a one-year, $1.425 million dea
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In the tradition of Carlos Marmol and Mitch Williams

 
Raul Ibanez to the Anaheims for 1/$2.5M. He's 41 so imminent collapse is a possibility but that's a pretty decent deal for a DH who hit 29 HRs last year. The less OF he plays, the better off everyone is.

 
shadyridr said:
Why didnt the As just resign Grant balfour? Am i missing something?
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I think they assumed he might've commanded 3 years. He also isn't exactly a spring chicken. The Johnson deal is perplexing (I would've rather they just take Mujica), but it's only one year.

Benoit gets 15.5m for two years. Good lord.

 
shadyridr said:
What the #### are the Yankees doing and WTF is Choo thinking? How many OFers are the Yankees planning on starting?
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Passan's piece said that they made the offer after Ellsbury, but before Beltran. When Choo asked for more, they pulled the offer to Choo and signed Beltran.

 
Casey McGehee to the Marlins for 1/$1.1M. He was big in Japan. Good cheap signing if he can handle 3B defensively.

 
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