*** 2013 Official Philadelphia Eagles - NFC EAST CHAMPS*** (1 Viewer)

[sporthenry]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Hard to get off this high..

 

[Awful Waffle]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

OLB is my top need. Trent Cole got better as the season went on, but his best days are behind him. They really need an impact edge rusher. There's a couple good prosepcts this year but I think they'll be gone when the Eagles pick. Connor Barwin is solid but is a #2 OLB.

Safety. The only safety worth a first round pick is HaHa Clinton-Dix, but due to the lack of good safety play in the entire league, I'd be shocked if he makes it to the Eagles pick. Jairus Byrd should be targeted in FA but someone out there is probably willing to overpay for him.

CB. Cary and Fletcher are short term solutions. Neither can run very well down the field. They give up a lot of short stuff, too. They look great when you think about Nnamdi and DRC last year but they're average at best.

 

[babydemon90]

Not really even was a turning point. Game was close the whole way. Run Defense failed us that last drive, if we had held there, who knows. Even that PI call that setup the TD - if instead we had marched down and used more time, who knows? Run defense had been pretty solid, so not sure what happened on that last drive. Still really want a good safety - that will help so much.

 

[Insein]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

Play making OLB is a must along with safety. I love Trent but I think we squeezed every last ounce out of him this year. Need a difference maker that can get to the qb and cover the back out in the flat.

 

[crewmember]

I thought biggest turning point/decision was going for it on 4th down in first quarter in what was a 0-0 game after a few possessions. They picked up the first down, but then Foles took a huge sack and then the missed field goal from much further back.

As far as Henry kickoffs, that's been old news, I thought they should have signed a kickoff specialist. Sucks to burn a roster spot on that but it's been apparent for a while now that it would make a big impact in some of their games.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

They need to get a CB who can push Williams and Fletcher for playing time, also would allow Eagles to.field a dime package. Obviously need a safety, probably draft one and sign one due to the lack of talent at the position. And while Ive always liked Trent Cole, he should be replaced by a true 3-4 stud LB. Also need to draft a WR who can be a slot weapon, preferably one with return skills as well. I appreciate Avant's leadership, but we need a quicker option. Im actually quite impressed with the Dline, but maybe a true NT could be a difference maker.

 

[Insein]

Hard to get off this high..

Yea. Tough to come down. What a difference a year makes. Ill start the 2014 thread in a couple of weeks to come down from this one.

 

[sporthenry]

But I think that is my point. Obviously can never have enough depth at CB but you say they'd push Williams/Fletcher for PT but that isn't an instant upgrade. I think the front 5 needs to be address more immediately since we got no pass rush the last few weeks. I'd probably go Beasley or Nix at NT if they are available. But again, not sure Beasley plays that much better than a veteran like Cole.

I know we'll see some improvement just with more time and Davis seems like a pretty good DC, I just don't know how we improve our 30th ranked defense that much. And I fully expect the turnovers to normalize a bit next year.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

To me the clear upgrades needed on defense are safety and rush LB. Perhaps NT as well.

I like Earl Wolff, he is the only safety on the team that I am interested in keeping. (Doesn't mean he's a starter, still needs improvement.)

Dump the rest.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Hard to get off this high..

Yea. Tough to come down. What a difference a year makes. Ill start the 2014 thread in a couple of weeks to come down from this one.

lol yea I need a minute

 

[None_More_Black]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

I think cb to replace Fletcher, pass rushing lb, or defensive end with pass rushing ability in the first round. Safety is a need but none likley worth the price when we pick. Byrd is possible FA but Bills might franchise him again.

 

[Domination]

Heartbreaking loss, but it was a great run.

I would like to see them go after TJ Ward at safety. I like his size & skill set for our team.

 

[Sludge]

Just got back and what an experience this game and the whole season has been. I'm disappointed they lost, but nobody expected them to be this far ahead of progress in year one of the Chip Kelly experience. The future of this team is bright and hey, its not like we were up 28 and lost.


Oh, and the crowd tonight was absolutely insane - the 12th man came to play. Loudest I've ever heard that stadium.

 

[babydemon90]

Important to realize Foles too hasn't even had a training camp as a starting QB yet. I'd imagine some of these game like today at vs Dallas where he is off his game can be ironed out a bit. And of course every QB has down days. Certainly he needs some improvement on quick reads and getting the ball out faster, he takes way too many sacks. Still, have to like the progress he's shown so far, and a sack is better then an INT after all!

 

[Billy Bats]

Oh, and the crowd tonight was absolutely insane - the 12th man came to play. Loudest I've ever heard that stadium.

Yea credit to you guys freezing your balls off, you definitely kept it loud.

 

[Billy Bats]

Not one bubble screen, not even on an read-option that I remember. A lot of basic drop backs. I wonder what they seen to alter the offense.

 

[Billy Bats]

Hold Jimmy Graham to 3/44 and Brees to a pedestrian 250 with 2 picks? And lose? Fail on the offense, Chip and Foles. It is what it is.

And somebody tell Cary to ####.

 

[JetMaxx]

Just got back and what an experience this game and the whole season has been. I'm disappointed they lost, but nobody expected them to be this far ahead of progress in year one of the Chip Kelly experience. The future of this team is bright and hey, its not like we were up 28 and lost.

Oh, and the crowd tonight was absolutely insane - the 12th man came to play. Loudest I've ever heard that stadium.

Despite the loss it was a great game to attend and I was proud of the crowd. They brought it for the entire game. I've gone to games since I was a child in the early Vet years and I never remember the crowd cheering the team as it left the field after a loss like tonight. Very classy and well deserved for this group of overachievers. Game obs:

Foles took what was given him on most pass plays. On the plays he held it there was no one open nor was anyone working to get open. Throw away is the play. That said, he outplayed a HOF QB in his first playoff game. When he got the ball back with 5 mins left i actually had confidence they would score with him leading. And they did. The future is bright with Nicky Franchise.

Henery sucks.

Coopers drop was a killer.

A pass rusher or two is beyond the biggest need. It's that glaring. Brees was clean the entire game with the exception of the times the coverage allowed the lame pass rush to get delayed pressure.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Important to realize Foles too hasn't even had a training camp as a starting QB yet. I'd imagine some of these game like today at vs Dallas where he is off his game can be ironed out a bit. And of course every QB has down days. Certainly he needs some improvement on quick reads and getting the ball out faster, he takes way too many sacks. Still, have to like the progress he's shown so far, and a sack is better then an INT after all!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/440420-aaron-rodgers-fever-five-reasons-why-green-bays-new-king-is-over-rated/page/2I can't add anything more to what you said. I just remember sacks was a issue with Rodgers, it still is actually. That's who Foles reminds me of outside of being able to get big gains on the ground. Foles put us in position to win almost every game he started including last night. You have to love it going forward.

 

[need2know]

Tough loss but cmon did anyone expect all the success this season? Got a great core for the future and by far the best looking team moving forward in the division

 

[Insein]

Hold Jimmy Graham to 3/44 and Brees to a pedestrian 250 with 2 picks? And lose? Fail on the offense, Chip and Foles. It is what it is.

And somebody tell Cary to ####.

I didn't fault cary for the tackle at the time because he was gone if he didn't. In hindsight though if we let them score, we probably had a better chance to win.

 

[Bernman2]

Was I honestly the only one here thinking 'onside kick' with 5 minutes left when we took the lead? A QB like Brees and an offense like New Orleans, you've gotta know they're going to milk the clock and kick a FG. I was yelling it at the TV. If you kick the onside kick and get it back, you do the milking of the clock and win the game. If you don't get the ball, New Orleans has a shorter field and scores quicker, fine (turned out that way anyway with the kick and the penalty). You then have a chance of getting the ball back quicker. Seeing how the game went, I just can't believe nobody else was thinking this. And I can't believe Chip didn't try it.

 

[Bernman2]

.... and I know Foles is not speedy gonzalez, but man, on a couple of those sacks, enough time had passed to realize you have gotta get outta there, and there was some open field where even I could have gotten a couple yards, maybe 5. On that one long sack, if he just spins and goes to his left, there's nobody there at all!

Great game and season, Eagles, I look forward to much better things AND a lot of winning in the forseeable future.

And I have great hope that the new regime sees the needs on the team much closer to how we see them here, Defense (pass rushers, Safety), big WR, kicker with a big leg.... and will address these needs in the draft and free agency (we do have some money to spend).

It was also great seeing Andy Reid not go any further. I love him for what he did here, but at the end of that game, all I was thinking was, 'Kansas City, get used to being severely frustrated with the final 2:00 minutes of ANY close game! You're Welcome!'

Again.... Great game and season, Eagles, I look forward to much better things AND a lot of winning in the forseeable future.

 

[unckeyherb]

With just over 2:10 left and New Orleans in obvious fg range why wouldn't you just let them run it in and give them the td? They'd be up 6 with the 2 minute warning and the birds having a timeout and having just scored on the last two drives. I really thought chip would have done something like that. The last two minutes were just excruciating.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

With just over 2:10 left and New Orleans in obvious fg range why wouldn't you just let them run it in and give them the td? They'd be up 6 with the 2 minute warning and the birds having a timeout and having just scored on the last two drives. I really thought chip would have done something like that. The last two minutes were just excruciating.

That assumes that the saints take the TD. A smart coach (like Payton) has his team pull a Westbrook at the 1, and kneels the clock down

 

[Insein]

With just over 2:10 left and New Orleans in obvious fg range why wouldn't you just let them run it in and give them the td? They'd be up 6 with the 2 minute warning and the birds having a timeout and having just scored on the last two drives. I really thought chip would have done something like that. The last two minutes were just excruciating.

That assumes that the saints take the TD. A smart coach (like Payton) has his team pull a Westbrook at the 1, and kneels the clock down

Exactly. No guarantee they score it knowing the situation.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I honestly have confidence in this regime to analyze their deficiencies and bring in players to fill needs. The former regime wouldn't make the correct adjustments even when it was obvious that there was a need.

Defensively, they need a safety and a rush LB first and foremost. Offensively, they need another WR to go with Jackson and Cooper (assuming he re-signs).

 

[Billy Bats]

A couple guys I was with suggested the onsides kick, but I think they were kidding around. In hindsight sure sounds great, but you need to kick it and cover. Also helps not to have a noodle leg kicker.

And we were screaming let them score, but that's assuming the Saints are foolish enough to go in instead of pulling a Westbrook and falling down at the one and really cementing it. Can't take that chance and force the kicker to kick it from as far out as possible.

 

[scratcher]

Was I honestly the only one here thinking 'onside kick' with 5 minutes left when we took the lead? A QB like Brees and an offense like New Orleans, you've gotta know they're going to milk the clock and kick a FG. I was yelling it at the TV. If you kick the onside kick and get it back, you do the milking of the clock and win the game. If you don't get the ball, New Orleans has a shorter field and scores quicker, fine (turned out that way anyway with the kick and the penalty). You then have a chance of getting the ball back quicker. Seeing how the game went, I just can't believe nobody else was thinking this. And I can't believe Chip didn't try it.

I think its a great idea. I'm sad my drunken brain didnt think of it at the time. When we scored with 5 minutes left, I thought we would have time to get the ball back. Also, that was why I wasnt mad at the horsecollar, thought it would just let us get the ball back quicker but they just ran it down our throats. Disappointed but happy with the season.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

In FA and the draft you HAVE to get a rush OLB and a DB.

Here's an early list of the 2014 FA's

http://nfltraderumors.co/2014-nfl-free-agents-top-50-list/

Depending on who gets tagged we could definitely land a top OLB or DB.

 

[babydemon90]

With just over 2:10 left and New Orleans in obvious fg range why wouldn't you just let them run it in and give them the td? They'd be up 6 with the 2 minute warning and the birds having a timeout and having just scored on the last two drives. I really thought chip would have done something like that. The last two minutes were just excruciating.

That assumes that the saints take the TD. A smart coach (like Payton) has his team pull a Westbrook at the 1, and kneels the clock down

Exactly. No guarantee they score it knowing the situation.

Yea, at the one or two, maybe. How would it even work letting them score from the 10? That wouldn't happen, they'd take a knee and kick the 'XP'.

Rough game by McCoy too, think he was 11 for 32 or so in the 3rd quarter - when the run game was supposed to be the Saints weakness, that's where we needed to excel.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The playcalling just didn't look the same either. It seemed much more conventional yesterday.

 

[Deamon]

Ugh, it's hard to even watch this Chargers/Bengals game and not feel a little heartbroken.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Outside of Cooper we have no real FA's to sign back either

I also thought the coaching did an amazing job this year too. A lot of "failure" coaches we brought in combined with a lot of college guys and I thought they did a great job. I hope we don't lose many of those guys. I'm sure after seeing what they did on this level that some will get offered college HC jobs.

 

[Nagle2998]

Was I honestly the only one here thinking 'onside kick' with 5 minutes left when we took the lead? A QB like Brees and an offense like New Orleans, you've gotta know they're going to milk the clock and kick a FG. I was yelling it at the TV. If you kick the onside kick and get it back, you do the milking of the clock and win the game. If you don't get the ball, New Orleans has a shorter field and scores quicker, fine (turned out that way anyway with the kick and the penalty). You then have a chance of getting the ball back quicker. Seeing how the game went, I just can't believe nobody else was thinking this. And I can't believe Chip didn't try it.

I could be wrong but after the Williams penalty I think they were close to the 40 to start the drive and I think they could have easily milked a few more minutes off the clock if they started from the 50 instead. If we were playing against a team coached by Reid I agree but I think Payton was smart enough to know and how to use the time correctly.

 

[JetMaxx]

Dalton makes me appreciate Foles.

 

[Nagle2998]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

1. SS-- I don't care if its a rookie or a vet if I see Chung suit up as an Eagle next year Im not giving them a dime of my money towards merchandise or ticket sales.

2. OLB--I love Cole but he has been to inconsistent this year and he isn't getting younger they need a pure pass rusher

3. NT--I like Bennie Logan and I want to see him play a lot in certain formations but they need a guy who is 6-4 350 who just eats space. Watching the game everyone knew on that last 3rd and one Brees was going to push it and they couldn't stop him from getting 4 yards let alone one.

4. CB-- I want someone who will push for a spot and keep Carmichael off the field.

5. K-- Henrey is a waste

 

[babydemon90]

Was I honestly the only one here thinking 'onside kick' with 5 minutes left when we took the lead? A QB like Brees and an offense like New Orleans, you've gotta know they're going to milk the clock and kick a FG. I was yelling it at the TV. If you kick the onside kick and get it back, you do the milking of the clock and win the game. If you don't get the ball, New Orleans has a shorter field and scores quicker, fine (turned out that way anyway with the kick and the penalty). You then have a chance of getting the ball back quicker. Seeing how the game went, I just can't believe nobody else was thinking this. And I can't believe Chip didn't try it.

I could be wrong but after the Williams penalty I think they were close to the 40 to start the drive and I think they could have easily milked a few more minutes off the clock if they started from the 50 instead. If we were playing against a team coached by Reid I agree but I think Payton was smart enough to know and how to use the time correctly.

Plus we had no idea they would get the ball at midfield. A normal kickoff at the 20, we'd have had a lot more chances to stop them.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Special teams lost the game. Henry missed a fg. C. Williams got the penalty but colt Anderson was out of place. And the dumbest play of the game was Carmichael kicking the ball in the end zone for a TD

Other than that 3rd and 1, 4th and 1 plays were in NO favor. Plays like that allow you have two turnovers and still win the game.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Special teams lost the game. Henry missed a fg. C. Williams got the penalty but colt Anderson was out of place. And the dumbest play of the game was Carmichael kicking the ball in the end zone for a TD

Other than that 3rd and 1, 4th and 1 plays were in NO favor. Plays like that allow you have two turnovers and still win the game.

I totally forgot about the Carmichael gaffe but you're about how huge that play was. Those were 2 very evenly matched teams. Eagles won the turnover battle but I guess that was offset by losing the special teams battle.

 

[Billy Bats]

The playcalling just didn't look the same either. It seemed much more conventional yesterday.

I was saying that the whole game. No bubble screens, nothing we seen all year. has this been answered anywhere? I don't bother reading much after a loss.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

1. SS-- I don't care if its a rookie or a vet if I see Chung suit up as an Eagle next year Im not giving them a dime of my money towards merchandise or ticket sales.2. OLB--I love Cole but he has been to inconsistent this year and he isn't getting younger they need a pure pass rusher

3. NT--I like Bennie Logan and I want to see him play a lot in certain formations but they need a guy who is 6-4 350 who just eats space. Watching the game everyone knew on that last 3rd and one Brees was going to push it and they couldn't stop him from getting 4 yards let alone one.

4. CB-- I want someone who will push for a spot and keep Carmichael off the field.

5. K-- Henrey is a waste

I think NT is far too high on the list. Bennie Logan did pretty well in his first shot and he could improve into a force at NT IMO. I'm sure he'll add weight as well.

Watching teams like SD and GB get pressure like they are really makes me want a rush OLB even more. No matter what, we need a OLB who can get to the QB even if he is just situational.

 

[sporthenry]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

1. SS-- I don't care if its a rookie or a vet if I see Chung suit up as an Eagle next year Im not giving them a dime of my money towards merchandise or ticket sales.2. OLB--I love Cole but he has been to inconsistent this year and he isn't getting younger they need a pure pass rusher

3. NT--I like Bennie Logan and I want to see him play a lot in certain formations but they need a guy who is 6-4 350 who just eats space. Watching the game everyone knew on that last 3rd and one Brees was going to push it and they couldn't stop him from getting 4 yards let alone one.

4. CB-- I want someone who will push for a spot and keep Carmichael off the field.

5. K-- Henrey is a waste

I think NT is far too high on the list. Bennie Logan did pretty well in his first shot and he could improve into a force at NT IMO. I'm sure he'll add weight as well.

Watching teams like SD and GB get pressure like they are really makes me want a rush OLB even more. No matter what, we need a OLB who can get to the QB even if he is just situational.

I agree that Logan is a bit small. I'm sure he puts on weight, but could he move over to DE on certain run plays? I think our front 7 needs to get better. Davis said he was letting NO run last night but they need to get better at stopping the run/creating pressure with 4 guys. Ryans and Kendricks came into their own this year. I like Cox and Logan. Barwin is good enough and does the dirty work. So either a better OLB, better DE or better NT.

Either way, if they can solidify the front 5, create pressure rushing 4, it will make our pass defense better. I think that will decrease the importance of a CB as well. Not against bringing in a CB in the draft but realistically the only player I expect to come in and help right away is our first round pick. Perhaps draft an OLB, cut Cole and bring in a safety through free agency.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I know defense is the obvious answer but apart from safety who really needs an upgrade? Ryans/Kendricks were good in the middle. Williams was good and I don't think Fletcher was bad. Cox is good and Logan seemed to get better. Barwin played well. I don't think Cole was bad but obviously not his natural position. So what do we upgrade and is it necessarily an instant upgrade? Safeties aren't usually first rounders and none of them really excite me. I imagine after this game, we'll probably get some more depth along the line. Probably use either a DT or a 3-4 OLB but do they play over Cole/Logan? I guess we can always cut Cole as well.

1. SS-- I don't care if its a rookie or a vet if I see Chung suit up as an Eagle next year Im not giving them a dime of my money towards merchandise or ticket sales.2. OLB--I love Cole but he has been to inconsistent this year and he isn't getting younger they need a pure pass rusher

3. NT--I like Bennie Logan and I want to see him play a lot in certain formations but they need a guy who is 6-4 350 who just eats space. Watching the game everyone knew on that last 3rd and one Brees was going to push it and they couldn't stop him from getting 4 yards let alone one.

4. CB-- I want someone who will push for a spot and keep Carmichael off the field.

5. K-- Henrey is a waste

I think NT is far too high on the list. Bennie Logan did pretty well in his first shot and he could improve into a force at NT IMO. I'm sure he'll add weight as well.Watching teams like SD and GB get pressure like they are really makes me want a rush OLB even more. No matter what, we need a OLB who can get to the QB even if he is just situational.

I agree that Logan is a bit small. I'm sure he puts on weight, but could he move over to DE on certain run plays? I think our front 7 needs to get better. Davis said he was letting NO run last night but they need to get better at stopping the run/creating pressure with 4 guys. Ryans and Kendricks came into their own this year. I like Cox and Logan. Barwin is good enough and does the dirty work. So either a better OLB, better DE or better NT. Either way, if they can solidify the front 5, create pressure rushing 4, it will make our pass defense better. I think that will decrease the importance of a CB as well. Not against bringing in a CB in the draft but realistically the only player I expect to come in and help right away is our first round pick. Perhaps draft an OLB, cut Cole and bring in a safety through free agency.

I actually think all we need to add to the front 7 is a legit pass rushing OLB. The DL did a very good job this season, especially Cox and Thornton in their first years playing in the 3-4. We need someone on the edge that can get to the QB and make teams account for him. Depth will be key as well. I don't see Logan playing DE at all. I think he's a NT all the way.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ZBerm: Eagles have the No. 22 overall pick. They have 7 picks -- their original pick in rounds 1-5, 7. Also, they have New England's 5th

 

[Awful Waffle]

De'Anthony Thomas is entering the draft. If he's there in the 3rd or 4th, I'd love to see him reunited with Chip. Not an every down player but explosive change of pace guy out of the backfield who can play the slot. Can also be the dynamic returner we haven't had the last few years.

Shady, DJax, Maclin, Ertz, and DAT in the same offense. Yes, please.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Lost a bit is the fantastic draft by Roseman this year. Lane Johnson, Zach Ertz, Bennie Logan, Earl Wolffe are producing at a high level and look to be long term starters. I still stand by the Barkley pick as an upside shot in the 4th. Well done by Howie.

Last year's as well. Top 5 picks are all major contributors (Cox, Kendricks, Curry, Foles, Boykin) plus Bryce.

I forgot about it until watching today's game, but Tom Gamble came over from the 49ers last year. May also have been key in the successful draft.

 

[JetMaxx]

Lost a bit is the fantastic draft by Roseman this year. Lane Johnson, Zach Ertz, Bennie Logan, Earl Wolffe are producing at a high level and look to be long term starters. I still stand by the Barkley pick as an upside shot in the 4th. Well done by Howie.

Last year's as well. Top 5 picks are all major contributors (Cox, Kendricks, Curry, Foles, Boykin) plus Bryce.

I forgot about it until watching today's game, but Tom Gamble came over from the 49ers last year. May also have been key in the successful draft.

I hope Gamble influences some draft pick infused toughness and pass rush in the defensive front 7

 

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Outside of Cooper we have no real FA's to sign back either

I also thought the coaching did an amazing job this year too. A lot of "failure" coaches we brought in combined with a lot of college guys and I thought they did a great job. I hope we don't lose many of those guys. I'm sure after seeing what they did on this level that some will get offered college HC jobs.

I don't think that's going to happen. Can't see assistants getting thrown head coaching college jobs, so the only options would be Davis and Shurmur and I really don't think either of those guys did anything that great this year to warrant college HC offers.