*** 2013 Official Philadelphia Eagles - NFC EAST CHAMPS*** (3 Viewers)

[Jason Wood]

Where does Cox fit in a 3-4?

He's actually a great fit as a 3-4 end.

 

[JAA]

Call me crazy (and stupid) but something about CK screams "I dont need 1st round talent". This scream echo's in the same voice of Bilichek and even Andy Reid. Now, will CK lose 4 straight NFCCG? Dunno ... will he win 3 of 4 super bowl? dunno.Point is I can see CK trading down to secure more top heavy-like talen ala those other "coaches"

 

[JAA]

I like Fisher. I thought he would have been a mid to end of the 1st round pick for some team. If Joeckel is off the board I could see them moving down in the draft and gunning for Fisher. Which wouldn't be a bad idea at all because more then likely they would pick up a 2nd in the process and maybe a 2014 pick. Having a good weekend helped his stock if people have him and Joeck as a 1a 1b type OT.

I don't think you can move too far back for Fisher. He's probably going in the 8-15 range, so moving back to the 6-10 area might be all they can do. Still if it nets you an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder this year, why not. Either way, I think tackle is a must.

Frankly, I'm tired of hoping the 2nd or 3rd works out. I'd much rather stay at 4 and land a stud. We pick high enough in the 2nd round as it is.

If Joeckel is there, take him at 4. If he's not, move back a couple spots and take Fisher at 6-10. Of course my plan is tackle in the first round, DB in the second. Maybe a QB in the 3rd if a guy like Nassib is there but I doubt he will be.

I'm not hell bent on a OT. If Joeckel isn't there then get Star, Jarvis Jones or Werner. If Star is everything they say he is and we do go to a 3-4, then he's a must of there IMO.

Again just my opinion. I feel like you can find defensive players in later rounds but a stud tackle, you know a perennial pro bowl guy, is only really had in the top 10. To me a stud tackle is so much more valuable to an offense like Kelly's because he will keep the QB upright for a second or two longer.

A stud OT like Jason Peters ... tell me again the top 10 pick Buffalo used on acquiring him?

 

[JAA]

If Peters injury wasn't as serious as it was, I would be fine with them taking that stud DT. Well not fine but I could see it. This isn't the case though. I just fail to see how they can not go OT here after the problems with the oline the past 3 seasons ( getting progressively worse too ). I don't like doing big block quoting but yes, Joeckel is that much of a stud this year. He is pretty much be described as that franchise type OT. The funny thing is his pass blocking is more developed then his run blocking but he is pretty agile on his feet. Usually it is the other way around. Fisher is good too, don't get me wrong but I think Joeckel is on another level. If Matthews came out ( the other OT at A&M ) I would have had1.Joeckel2a.Matthews2b.Fisherin terms of OT ranking. It makes sense for them to go OT. Peters injury which we discussed. Herremans injury too, he has been beat up pretty bad the past few seasons and him at OT is a downgrade compared to him at OG. Is anyone secure with Dunlap or Kelly at either tackle spot? No. I always felt that if you can not protect the QB, you can't win. Sure a stud DT would be great but the league is changing alot. You don't need a dominate D anymore, you can get by with an average/above average D as long as you have a high ceiling offense. Which is pretty much becoming the defense now. ( due to the league rule changes favoring the offense ). So give me that franchise tackle. Look to next draft if you are interested in a QB ( stronger class ).

I agree with this. if Joeckel is there at 1.4 you have to take him. IIRC he played RT in college but projects as a LT. Best case you have Peters and Joeckel bookending the line. Worst case you have a good maybe great rookie LT.I think Peters will be OK and Joeckel is a great pick. That said, if they think either of the fat slobs is WIlfolk-like they need to take him. Those players dont come along ever never evah

 

[JetMaxx]

Call me crazy (and stupid) but something about CK screams "I dont need 1st round talent". This scream echo's in the same voice of Bilichek and even Andy Reid. Now, will CK lose 4 straight NFCCG? Dunno ... will he win 3 of 4 super bowl? dunno.Point is I can see CK trading down to secure more top heavy-like talen ala those other "coaches"

I hope you're wrong because I can't remember last game changing defensive player drafted by those 2 draft pick mongerers.

 

[Insein]

I like Fisher. I thought he would have been a mid to end of the 1st round pick for some team. If Joeckel is off the board I could see them moving down in the draft and gunning for Fisher. Which wouldn't be a bad idea at all because more then likely they would pick up a 2nd in the process and maybe a 2014 pick. Having a good weekend helped his stock if people have him and Joeck as a 1a 1b type OT.

I don't think you can move too far back for Fisher. He's probably going in the 8-15 range, so moving back to the 6-10 area might be all they can do. Still if it nets you an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder this year, why not. Either way, I think tackle is a must.

Frankly, I'm tired of hoping the 2nd or 3rd works out. I'd much rather stay at 4 and land a stud. We pick high enough in the 2nd round as it is.

If Joeckel is there, take him at 4. If he's not, move back a couple spots and take Fisher at 6-10. Of course my plan is tackle in the first round, DB in the second. Maybe a QB in the 3rd if a guy like Nassib is there but I doubt he will be.

I'm not hell bent on a OT. If Joeckel isn't there then get Star, Jarvis Jones or Werner. If Star is everything they say he is and we do go to a 3-4, then he's a must of there IMO.

Again just my opinion. I feel like you can find defensive players in later rounds but a stud tackle, you know a perennial pro bowl guy, is only really had in the top 10. To me a stud tackle is so much more valuable to an offense like Kelly's because he will keep the QB upright for a second or two longer.

A stud OT like Jason Peters ... tell me again the top 10 pick Buffalo used on acquiring him?

One example. Lets take ESPNs top 10 graded OT's right now. RK PLAYER GRADE1 Joe Thomas 89 - 1st round2 Jake Long 89 - 1st Round3 Jason Peters 88 - Undrafted4 Ryan Clady 85 - 1st Round5 Andrew Whitworth 84 - 2nd Round6 Jordan Gross 84 - 1st Round7 Duane Brown 84 - 1st Round8 Tyron Smith 83 - 1st Round9 D'Brickashaw Ferguson 83 - 1st Round10 Bryan Bulaga 82 - 1st RoundOf the top 10, 8 went in the first round and of those 8, 6 were in the top 12 picks. Peters is an exception, not the rule. Most of the time offensive tackles that are the best in the league come from the top of the draft. That's why they go there.

 

[Insein]

Call me crazy (and stupid) but something about CK screams "I dont need 1st round talent". This scream echo's in the same voice of Bilichek and even Andy Reid. Now, will CK lose 4 straight NFCCG? Dunno ... will he win 3 of 4 super bowl? dunno.Point is I can see CK trading down to secure more top heavy-like talen ala those other "coaches"

I don't get that Vibe at all. If anything, I was expecting the "smarter than the room vibe" but I get the feel of a guy who will adjust to what he has but try to get what he needs to make it work. I'm willing to give him a few years to see how he does things.

 

[Snotbubbles]

One example. Lets take ESPNs top 10 graded OT's right now. RK PLAYER GRADE1 Joe Thomas 89 - 1st round2 Jake Long 89 - 1st Round3 Jason Peters 88 - Undrafted4 Ryan Clady 85 - 1st Round5 Andrew Whitworth 84 - 2nd Round6 Jordan Gross 84 - 1st Round7 Duane Brown 84 - 1st Round8 Tyron Smith 83 - 1st Round9 D'Brickashaw Ferguson 83 - 1st Round10 Bryan Bulaga 82 - 1st RoundOf the top 10, 8 went in the first round and of those 8, 6 were in the top 12 picks. Peters is an exception, not the rule. Most of the time offensive tackles that are the best in the league come from the top of the draft. That's why they go there.

Scouting reports are saying that Joeckel isn't in the same class as Matt Kahlil. Where exactly does that put him in league rankings? Like I said before, I'm getting the vibe that Joeckel is more Tra Thomas like, solid but not studly. I would rather take a big swing at a guy who could be studly (Loutelelei, Jones).

 

[Insein]

One example. Lets take ESPNs top 10 graded OT's right now. RK PLAYER GRADE1 Joe Thomas 89 - 1st round2 Jake Long 89 - 1st Round3 Jason Peters 88 - Undrafted4 Ryan Clady 85 - 1st Round5 Andrew Whitworth 84 - 2nd Round6 Jordan Gross 84 - 1st Round7 Duane Brown 84 - 1st Round8 Tyron Smith 83 - 1st Round9 D'Brickashaw Ferguson 83 - 1st Round10 Bryan Bulaga 82 - 1st RoundOf the top 10, 8 went in the first round and of those 8, 6 were in the top 12 picks. Peters is an exception, not the rule. Most of the time offensive tackles that are the best in the league come from the top of the draft. That's why they go there.

Scouting reports are saying that Joeckel isn't in the same class as Matt Kahlil. Where exactly does that put him in league rankings? Like I said before, I'm getting the vibe that Joeckel is more Tra Thomas like, solid but not studly. I would rather take a big swing at a guy who could be studly (Loutelelei, Jones).

I'd rather play it safe and get another Tra Thomas. If Peters comes back to full health, that gives us 2 solid tackles. If he and Herremans have injury problems, then at least we have one good tackle. I don't see the defense making a complete turn around in one season with Star or Jarvis. Our oline is in trouble especially if those guys stay hurt.

 

[Snotbubbles]

One example. Lets take ESPNs top 10 graded OT's right now. RK PLAYER GRADE1 Joe Thomas 89 - 1st round2 Jake Long 89 - 1st Round3 Jason Peters 88 - Undrafted4 Ryan Clady 85 - 1st Round5 Andrew Whitworth 84 - 2nd Round6 Jordan Gross 84 - 1st Round7 Duane Brown 84 - 1st Round8 Tyron Smith 83 - 1st Round9 D'Brickashaw Ferguson 83 - 1st Round10 Bryan Bulaga 82 - 1st RoundOf the top 10, 8 went in the first round and of those 8, 6 were in the top 12 picks. Peters is an exception, not the rule. Most of the time offensive tackles that are the best in the league come from the top of the draft. That's why they go there.

Scouting reports are saying that Joeckel isn't in the same class as Matt Kahlil. Where exactly does that put him in league rankings? Like I said before, I'm getting the vibe that Joeckel is more Tra Thomas like, solid but not studly. I would rather take a big swing at a guy who could be studly (Loutelelei, Jones).

I'd rather play it safe and get another Tra Thomas. If Peters comes back to full health, that gives us 2 solid tackles. If he and Herremans have injury problems, then at least we have one good tackle. I don't see the defense making a complete turn around in one season with Star or Jarvis. Our oline is in trouble especially if those guys stay hurt.

The other option would be to draft Star or Jarvis and try and sign an UFA. There's an interesting crop of UFA: Ryan Clady, Jake Long, Branden Albert, Sebastian Vollmer and Andre Smith.When a team running a 3-4 gets the NT they need, you usually don't see those guys hit the FA, they're too important to the entire defensive scheme. Finding capable offensive lineman isn't nearly as hard.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@AdamSchefter: Browns LB coach Billy Davis interviewed Sunday for Philadelphia Eagles DC job. Davis is the former DC for the 49ers and Cardinals.ETA--@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.UGH!

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

This is patently ridiculous. Maybe I'm just a fool for buying into the Ed Donatell rumors, but I always figured that they were filling out their defensive staff with his input. It just makes no sense for a team to hire all the junior defensive coaches ahead of time then fill in the coordinator at the last minute.But that's apparently exactly what they're doing. Unbelievable.

 

[jasvic]

Just like the head coach search, not believing any reports until it's official. Just more rumors and here say being passed off as news.

 

[Nucker101]

@AdamSchefter: Browns LB coach Billy Davis interviewed Sunday for Philadelphia Eagles DC job. Davis is the former DC for the 49ers and Cardinals.ETA--@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.UGH!

 

[need2know]

@AdamSchefter: Browns LB coach Billy Davis interviewed Sunday for Philadelphia Eagles DC job. Davis is the former DC for the 49ers and Cardinals.ETA--@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.UGH!

i too hope this doesnt happen. pls bring in someone better than this jamoke

 

[Insein]

To me it has to be Donatell or someone from either the niners or Ravens staff. No way they put all of the sub coaches in place without some input from a DC.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

This is patently ridiculous. Maybe I'm just a fool for buying into the Ed Donatell rumors, but I always figured that they were filling out their defensive staff with his input. It just makes no sense for a team to hire all the junior defensive coaches ahead of time then fill in the coordinator at the last minute.But that's apparently exactly what they're doing. Unbelievable.

You're looking too far into this, IMO. Even if you don't think they're bouncing these moves off of a potential DC these moves have to be made before these guys commit back to school or take jobs elsewhere. Our HC should be trusted to fill these positions without consent from a DC.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

To me it has to be Donatell or someone from either the niners or Ravens staff. No way they put all of the sub coaches in place without some input from a DC.

It can and has been done though. You see HC's fill their staff without doing it in rank order. It happens a lot actually. You also see DC & OC's get HC'ing jobs and their positions filled without all position coaches leaving. Take Gus Bradley for example.I'd like to think they have a guy in but it may be a couple they have in mind.

 

[Insein]

This is patently ridiculous. Maybe I'm just a fool for buying into the Ed Donatell rumors, but I always figured that they were filling out their defensive staff with his input. It just makes no sense for a team to hire all the junior defensive coaches ahead of time then fill in the coordinator at the last minute.But that's apparently exactly what they're doing. Unbelievable.

You're looking too far into this, IMO. Even if you don't think they're bouncing these moves off of a potential DC these moves have to be made before these guys commit back to school or take jobs elsewhere. Our HC should be trusted to fill these positions without consent from a DC.

Plus this is different from the Washburn Castillo situation. It wasn't just the hiring of Washburn before a DC that was the issue. It was the declaring that the wide 9 was their base defense before a DC was chosen. Any DC that comes in here will have a staff but they will be the guy that decides how to run the defense. Kelly has his idea in mind and will relay it to the DC. The DC will be in charge of implementing his version of that. The position coaches will have to do as they're told from the DC.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.ETA: guy said Foles, "Wasn't our guy." Take that for what it's worth...

 

[Wooderson]

Did he buy Kelly green paint? If yes he was legit and we are going back to the cool uniforms.

 

[Shane Falco]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.

Interesting 1- I hope so2- Wouldn't surprise me. DJax was totally a Reid guy and I'm not surprised Andy babysat him3- I hope but we will see

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.

Interesting 1- I hope so2- Wouldn't surprise me. DJax was totally a Reid guy and I'm not surprised Andy babysat him3- I hope but we will see

Trade D-Jax and sign Bowe but don't you dare touch Alex Smith

 

[Shane Falco]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.

Interesting 1- I hope so2- Wouldn't surprise me. DJax was totally a Reid guy and I'm not surprised Andy babysat him3- I hope but we will see

Trade D-Jax and sign Bowe but don't you dare touch Alex Smith

Trade one headcase WR for another? I'll passas far as Smith... aren't he and Foles pretty much the same guy? I'm not sure what the point of bringing him in would be Or if Kelly even would. He's been talking up Foles quite a bit so I've been thinking whatever QB he brings in is a back-up/ development or at best competition for Foles. Not someone he hands the job to unless the guy is obviously a starter. I know most fans don't view Smith as that but he had a pedigree and was hurt a lot by the constant turn-over he had at OC maybe there are still a lot of NFL guys that see a reclamation project. I though he was turning a corner before the concussionAll that said, I'd be fine with Foles or Smith as long as Smith isn't viewed as the answer for the next 5 years, just a stopgap. Anything to get Vick out of here

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.

Interesting 1- I hope so2- Wouldn't surprise me. DJax was totally a Reid guy and I'm not surprised Andy babysat him3- I hope but we will see

Trade D-Jax and sign Bowe but don't you dare touch Alex Smith

Trade one headcase WR for another? I'll passas far as Smith... aren't he and Foles pretty much the same guy? I'm not sure what the point of bringing him in would be Or if Kelly even would. He's been talking up Foles quite a bit so I've been thinking whatever QB he brings in is a back-up/ development or at best competition for Foles. Not someone he hands the job to unless the guy is obviously a starter. I know most fans don't view Smith as that but he had a pedigree and was hurt a lot by the constant turn-over he had at OC maybe there are still a lot of NFL guys that see a reclamation project. I though he was turning a corner before the concussionAll that said, I'd be fine with Foles or Smith as long as Smith isn't viewed as the answer for the next 5 years, just a stopgap. Anything to get Vick out of here

I wouldn't say Bowe is anywhere near what Desean is as far as being a hesdcase. As far as I know Bowe never just quit and isn't half a chick when he has the ball. And he can run more then one route and be a factor in the redzone. Vick is gone. No way they pay him that money after the SB. I'd rather draft Nassib or start Foles then sign Alex Smith. He's a game manager and we're not built to have a game manager at QB.

 

[Insein]

Did he buy Kelly green paint? If yes he was legit and we are going back to the cool uniforms.

I prefer midnight green. That is when the best era of modern Eagles football took place. Can't stand this Kelly Green movement.

 

[Insein]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.

Interesting 1- I hope so2- Wouldn't surprise me. DJax was totally a Reid guy and I'm not surprised Andy babysat him3- I hope but we will see

Trade D-Jax and sign Bowe but don't you dare touch Alex Smith

Trade one headcase WR for another? I'll passas far as Smith... aren't he and Foles pretty much the same guy? I'm not sure what the point of bringing him in would be Or if Kelly even would. He's been talking up Foles quite a bit so I've been thinking whatever QB he brings in is a back-up/ development or at best competition for Foles. Not someone he hands the job to unless the guy is obviously a starter. I know most fans don't view Smith as that but he had a pedigree and was hurt a lot by the constant turn-over he had at OC maybe there are still a lot of NFL guys that see a reclamation project. I though he was turning a corner before the concussionAll that said, I'd be fine with Foles or Smith as long as Smith isn't viewed as the answer for the next 5 years, just a stopgap. Anything to get Vick out of here

I wouldn't say Bowe is anywhere near what Desean is as far as being a hesdcase. As far as I know Bowe never just quit and isn't half a chick when he has the ball. And he can run more then one route and be a factor in the redzone. Vick is gone. No way they pay him that money after the SB. I'd rather draft Nassib or start Foles then sign Alex Smith. He's a game manager and we're not built to have a game manager at QB.

I'd rather Bowe over DJax in a heartbeat. Bowe does so much more at the position than DJax with moderately less headaches. He also adds a big body for the redzone. If Andy has truly changed his stripes, resigning Bowe will be a priority. IF he is still a square peg-round hole guy, then Bowe will be available. Wonder if he'd like to have DJax back, lol. Probably could get a 2nd or 3rd for him with Bowe leaving. I've been saying Vick is gone before Feb 6. No way they're taking that cap hit. Alex Smith is a waste. He's a guy you bring in when you have a defense and a solid running game in place but keep getting hurt at QB from making a run. Minnesota or St Louis would be my guesses as teams wanting to take a shot as their young QBs are underperforming. Rather see Foles as the starter because Nassib will do enough to get into the first round in this QB scarce year. Rather not waste a high pick on a questionable talent. Sure he could be a Russell Wilson find but more likely he would be a Kevin Kolb type. Foles is already here. He's cheap. He got some experience in 2012 to get the jitters out and we can now see what he can do as a pro. Give him the reigns in a rebuilding year because there is no way we're going 10-6 despite that dude's claims, legit or not. Much better QB talent in 2014 to make a play for if we finish in the 4-7 win category.

 

[Ash]

1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."ETA: guy said Foles, "Wasn't our guy." Take that for what it's worth...

No problem if Vick is gone, think it's a move they need to make. Trading Jackson for Smith seems like bad business. Smith has a $7.5 payment guaranteed April 1 if he's still with the 49ers, so I think he'll be released. If they want to trade Jackson then do it for draft pick(s), it's not like we don't have needs.If they don't believe in Foles, that's fine. Even if they haven't ruled him out, I wouldn't mind seeing them bring in a 2nd/3rd round QB and may the best man win.Besides with Howie running the draft now without Reid and Banner around to #### it all up, should be Pro Bowlers down to the 5th round...

 

[Jason Wood]

I am keeping the faith, but Pat Shurmur and Ed Donatell/Billy Davis are uninspired hires for a non-NFL head coach looking to lean on veteran assistants. UGH. I hope we land someone else at DC than one of those two rehashes. Interesting comments from Chip about sacks and his belief that EVERY SACK is the quarterback's fault.http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/hofmann/Why-Vick-probably-doesnt-fit-Kellys-vision.html

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I am keeping the faith, but Pat Shurmur and Ed Donatell/Billy Davis are uninspired hires for a non-NFL head coach looking to lean on veteran assistants. UGH. I hope we land someone else at DC than one of those two rehashes. Interesting comments from Chip about sacks and his belief that EVERY SACK is the quarterback's fault.http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/hofmann/Why-Vick-probably-doesnt-fit-Kellys-vision.html

FWIW, I like the Shurmer hire. On the surface he seems like a guy who was simply was out of his element as HC but seemed to have pretty good success as a QB Coach and OC. With us having a HC who calls plays I see his role being more QB Coach then OC and I'm actually excited about that.I agree with the Donatell/ Billy Davis portion though...especially Davis.I'm hoping they try to get whichever position coach from SF or Baltimore they think can be hungry and agressive.In reading that article it gives me the impression that our QB almost has to be Foles or a Foles type.

 

[Insein]

I am keeping the faith, but Pat Shurmur and Ed Donatell/Billy Davis are uninspired hires for a non-NFL head coach looking to lean on veteran assistants. UGH. I hope we land someone else at DC than one of those two rehashes. Interesting comments from Chip about sacks and his belief that EVERY SACK is the quarterback's fault.http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/hofmann/Why-Vick-probably-doesnt-fit-Kellys-vision.html

FWIW, I like the Shurmer hire. On the surface he seems like a guy who was simply was out of his element as HC but seemed to have pretty good success as a QB Coach and OC. With us having a HC who calls plays I see his role being more QB Coach then OC and I'm actually excited about that.I agree with the Donatell/ Billy Davis portion though...especially Davis.I'm hoping they try to get whichever position coach from SF or Baltimore they think can be hungry and agressive.In reading that article it gives me the impression that our QB almost has to be Foles or a Foles type.

I also like Shurmur. He's not going to be calling plays but he has insight on the NFL game that differs from Kelly's football knowledge. He can offer a dissenting opinion which I think is good. You don't get much done if you just have guys that think the same under you. Shurmur also just got done 3 years as an NFL head coach in which he made a lot of mistakes. With that fresh experience he can make suggestions on pitfalls to avoid for Kelly. For DC, I'm pretty sure with all these moves they are making that they have someone in mind from either Balt or SF. Plus like someone said on the radio yesterday, every other team has a DC now. So they are not competing against anyone to get who's left. There's no rush. Probably will have someone by the middle of next week.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@AdamSchefter: Former Virginia OC Bill Lazor will become the Eagles QB coach.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Add Bill Lazor to the list of Eagles assistant coaches the Eagles won’t confirm.The Eagles have added the 40-year-old Lazor to rookie head coach Chip Kelly’s staff, according to CBSSports.com, in an unknown capacity.Lazor, a Scranton native and former Cornell quarterback, had been offensive coordinator the last three years at the University of Virginia after seven seasons as an NFL assistant in Atlanta, Washington and Seattle.As has been the case with every assistant new head coach Chip Kelly has hired, the Eagles refused to comment on the move or respond to requests for confirmation.A team spokesman has said the club will not confirm or deny any coaching hires until Kelly’s staff is complete, even though assistants with Eagles credentials and wearing Eagles gear were seen working with Kelly at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala.Lazor’s title with the Eagles is unknown. Offensive coaches already believed to be in place are Pat Shurmur, the likely offensive coordinator; running backs coach Duce Staley; tight ends coach Ted Williams; and likely wide receivers coach Bob Bicknell. Mike Dawson has experience coaching on both sides of the ball. None have been acknowledged by the Eagles. Staley and Williams were on Andy Reid’s final staff. Shurmur was on Reid’s original staff.Lazor, 40, coached at his alma mater, Cornell, from 1994 through 2000 and then was offensive coordinator and QBs coach at Buffalo for two years before Dan Reeves brought him to Atlanta in 2003.When Reeves was fired, he joined Joe Gibbs’ Redskins staff in 2004, first as an offensive assistant and then in 2006 and 2007 as quarterbacks coach. He joined Mike Holmgren in Seattle in 2008 and stayed the following year under Jim Mora Jr. When Pete Carroll came in, he kept only Gus Bradley from Mora’s staff, and Lazor went to Virginia.According to Virginia’s web site, the Cavaliers improved from last in the ACC at 270 yards per game in 2009 to fourth in the conference with 405 yards per game in 2010, Lazor’s first year as offensive coordinator. They were fourth again in 2011 but only ninth this past season.

 

[roarlions]

For DC, I'm pretty sure with all these moves they are making that they have someone in mind from either Balt or SF. Plus like someone said on the radio yesterday, every other team has a DC now. So they are not competing against anyone to get who's left. There's no rush. Probably will have someone by the middle of next week.

There were articles in the past couple of days which named the linebacker coach from the Ravens as the leading candidate for DC. They also threw out a few names of position coaches from the 49ers as possibilities.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

For DC, I'm pretty sure with all these moves they are making that they have someone in mind from either Balt or SF. Plus like someone said on the radio yesterday, every other team has a DC now. So they are not competing against anyone to get who's left. There's no rush. Probably will have someone by the middle of next week.

That makes even more sense now. At this point they can really take their time and find the right guy.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@AdamSchefter: Rob Ryan - who predicted he'd be out of work "five minutes" - now has his unemployed meter up to over 30,240 minutes. And counting.@AdamSchefter: RT @Tim_Malek: I thought he signed with the Rams? ... Two sides reached an agreement. But deal did not get signed. And now agreement is off.^^ this worries me. I don't want him.

 

[Jason Wood]

@AdamSchefter: Rob Ryan - who predicted he'd be out of work "five minutes" - now has his unemployed meter up to over 30,240 minutes. And counting.@AdamSchefter: RT @Tim_Malek: I thought he signed with the Rams? ... Two sides reached an agreement. But deal did not get signed. And now agreement is off.^^ this worries me. I don't want him.

This shouldn't be what worries you, his record as a coordinator should be what does. He's yet to field a good, much less elite defense in six years as an NFL DC.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/RyanRo0.htm

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

For DC, I'm pretty sure with all these moves they are making that they have someone in mind from either Balt or SF. Plus like someone said on the radio yesterday, every other team has a DC now. So they are not competing against anyone to get who's left. There's no rush. Probably will have someone by the middle of next week.

That makes even more sense now. At this point they can really take their time and find the right guy.

This is not an accurate statement, considering that neither the Rams nor the Saints have signed a DC... and both have stated their intent to move to a 3-4. So there certainly is a degree of competition for whoever is available. I'm not in panic mode, I just really dislike the way this hiring process seems to have unfolded. Seems like somone could be stuck without a chair when the music stops.And lets not forget the potential downside to targeting a position coach from Ravens or Niners... the teams can always say no.

 

[Insein]

For DC, I'm pretty sure with all these moves they are making that they have someone in mind from either Balt or SF. Plus like someone said on the radio yesterday, every other team has a DC now. So they are not competing against anyone to get who's left. There's no rush. Probably will have someone by the middle of next week.

That makes even more sense now. At this point they can really take their time and find the right guy.

This is not an accurate statement, considering that neither the Rams nor the Saints have signed a DC... and both have stated their intent to move to a 3-4. So there certainly is a degree of competition for whoever is available. I'm not in panic mode, I just really dislike the way this hiring process seems to have unfolded. Seems like somone could be stuck without a chair when the music stops.And lets not forget the potential downside to targeting a position coach from Ravens or Niners... the teams can always say no.

I thought a potential promotion could not be stopped by a team or was frowned upon doing so at least. A lateral move usually is blocked (DC to DC). As for the competition, reports were Stl had signed Rob Ryan but now that looks to be off. So a little more competition again I guess. Still not a big deal if they are all competing for the Ravens or 49ers positional coaches. They have to wait too.

 

[scratcher]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.ETA: guy said Foles, "Wasn't our guy." Take that for what it's worth...

Why would you trade a top WR for a guy that is going to be cut this offseason?

 

[Please See Mine]

Kelly will apparently look to sign Dennis Dixon.http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/dennis-dixon-likely-be-added-eagles-qb-mix

 

[Jason Wood]

Kelly will apparently look to sign Dennis Dixon.http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/dennis-dixon-likely-be-added-eagles-qb-mix

I wouldn't make too much of this, even if it happens. Remember people were convinced Harbaugh was getting "his guy" in Josh Johnson because he coached him in college, and many even went so far as to say JJ would push Colin K for the #2 job. Moves like this are a way of getting someone in house who can be a leader, help illustrate nuances of the system, etc... I do think it further cements the notion that our starter will a) be a youngster and b) is not on the roster.

 

[Deamon]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.ETA: guy said Foles, "Wasn't our guy." Take that for what it's worth...

Maybe this is just me being skeptical, but this sounds made up. Maybe its just another big eagles fan having some fun with you. Why would a new coach divulge this information, let alone so nonchalantly? Can't see a new coach telling people in a store about a trade they're going to try to make, or dropping the 'dynasty' remarks or record predictions like he's just some fan. If he is one of our new coaches, I hope he never gets in front of a camera for an interview.

 

[Insein]

Hey guys, so this might be complete BS but tonight I was standing in line at the Loew's in South Philly and managed to strike up a conversation with someone who appears to be on the new staff. Wether he was a coach or scout or something else, I have no idea but myself and the paint counter guy had quite the chat with this fella. Maybe he was putting me on but let me lay out what he said to see if any of this comes to pass:1) Vick is gone Monday2) They are going to offer San Fran Jackson for Alex Smith. Kelly wants a bunch of Reid's guys purged and this man referred to Jackson as a "piece of ####" and that fans might be surprised how many big name guys are going to be jettisoned. He also said that Jackson was one of many that Reid "baby sat."3) Philly will "Love Kelly and that they will be 10-6 next year and after that a dynasty."Guys, I'm not making this up. Maybe he was some kinda actor who knows? But I'm pretty sure he was legit and e joyed talking to a couple regular fans that actually could articulate well (if I do say so myself). Of course it helped that I gushed over Kelly. Anyway, there ya have it. If the Jackson for Smith thing comes to pass than I'll know the conversation was legit.ETA: guy said Foles, "Wasn't our guy." Take that for what it's worth...

Maybe this is just me being skeptical, but this sounds made up. Maybe its just another big eagles fan having some fun with you. Why would a new coach divulge this information, let alone so nonchalantly? Can't see a new coach telling people in a store about a trade they're going to try to make, or dropping the 'dynasty' remarks or record predictions like he's just some fan. If he is one of our new coaches, I hope he never gets in front of a camera for an interview.

I'm 100% certain the guy is not affiliated with the Eagles in anyway officially. Would be pretty easy to get his name, especially if he bought something with a debit or credit card and then double check if he works there.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: Ravens LBs coach Ted Manochino said #Eagles have not contacted him yet about DC opening. Said he aspires to be a DC. http://t.co/l9TEK74h@Jeff_McLane: My impression of Ted Monachino after an 8-minute interview: Very sharp and a future defensive coordinator somewhere, if not w/ the #Eagles.

 

[renesauz]

Did he buy Kelly green paint? If yes he was legit and we are going back to the cool uniforms.

I prefer midnight green. That is when the best era of modern Eagles football took place. Can't stand this Kelly Green movement.

The Kelly greens were ugly.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Still time to get Romeo on the phone...

 

[Insein]

Still time to get Romeo on the phone...

No thank you. No idea where that dude's head is at right now. Complete failure of a season is a minor footnote to watching one of your players blow his brains out in front of you. I'd rather leave that baggage at home.

 

[Deamon]

Dixon talks are heating up. I'm really hoping (assuming) this is for a backup role and he isn't Chip's idea of our starting qb. Seems like he's bringing a lot of familiar pieces from Oregon here.

 

[Insein]

Dixon talks are heating up. I'm really hoping (assuming) this is for a backup role and he isn't Chip's idea of our starting qb. Seems like he's bringing a lot of familiar pieces from Oregon here.

I believe he's doing it to have some one who is familiar with his system. That way it helps the other guys to follow along. Chip seems like a smart guy. Bringing in guys he knows in year one will help everyone else acclimate better to the system. At least that's my belief. Could be completely wrong and we'll be the Philadelphia Ducks next season.