2014 NFL Draft thread (2 Viewers)

[Faust]

Video Link:

Analysts' mock draft Analysts' mock draft: Johnny Manziel to St. Louis Rams at No. 2

 

[msommer]

With the rumours that the Bucs are looking to trade Glennon for a 2nd (and might take less during the draft or even after) wonder if a team like the Titans would look at biting. Glennon seems more a pocket passer like Rivers than Locker could ever be and may fit what Whisenhunt wants better than a second/third tier rookie. Would give a better back up than Whitehurst and more promise.

On the other hand could be that the Titans are looking for a 1st round QB in 2015 instead.

Who else might be interested for a third or a combination of lower picks in the 2014/2015 drafts?

ETA: I know the Titans don't have a 3rd this year

 

[Sabertooth]

I'd like to see Green Bay grab a defensive player. Someone, anyone who can stay healthy and produce. Tuitt, Shazier, or Clinton-Dix would be great.

 

[pantherclub]

With the rumours that the Bucs are looking to trade Glennon for a 2nd (and might take less during the draft or even after) wonder if a team like the Titans would look at biting. Glennon seems more a pocket passer like Rivers than Locker could ever be and may fit what Whisenhunt wants better than a second/third tier rookie. Would give a better back up than Whitehurst and more promise.

On the other hand could be that the Titans are looking for a 1st round QB in 2015 instead.

Who else might be interested for a third or a combination of lower picks in the 2014/2015 drafts?

ETA: I know the Titans don't have a 3rd this year

Why on Gods green earth would they do this? Glennon was the least of their problems last year and actually showed a good bit of promise IMO.

 

[msommer]

With the rumours that the Bucs are looking to trade Glennon for a 2nd (and might take less during the draft or even after) wonder if a team like the Titans would look at biting. Glennon seems more a pocket passer like Rivers than Locker could ever be and may fit what Whisenhunt wants better than a second/third tier rookie. Would give a better back up than Whitehurst and more promise.

On the other hand could be that the Titans are looking for a 1st round QB in 2015 instead.

Who else might be interested for a third or a combination of lower picks in the 2014/2015 drafts?

ETA: I know the Titans don't have a 3rd this year

Why on Gods green earth would they do this? Glennon was the least of their problems last year and actually showed a good bit of promise IMO.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000346963/article/mike-glennon-could-be-traded-for-secondround-pick

Apparently Lovie/Tedford don't like him

 

[pantherclub]

With the rumours that the Bucs are looking to trade Glennon for a 2nd (and might take less during the draft or even after) wonder if a team like the Titans would look at biting. Glennon seems more a pocket passer like Rivers than Locker could ever be and may fit what Whisenhunt wants better than a second/third tier rookie. Would give a better back up than Whitehurst and more promise.

On the other hand could be that the Titans are looking for a 1st round QB in 2015 instead.

Who else might be interested for a third or a combination of lower picks in the 2014/2015 drafts?

ETA: I know the Titans don't have a 3rd this year

Why on Gods green earth would they do this? Glennon was the least of their problems last year and actually showed a good bit of promise IMO.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000346963/article/mike-glennon-could-be-traded-for-secondround-pick

Apparently Lovie/Tedford don't like him

wow, thanks for the link I didnt know that. Seems odd as he has the size and arm to be a decent to good NFL starter. he does seem to lock on his primary wr a bit but that can be fixed and he has great touch and range on his deep balls

 

[massraider]

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/05/07/nfl-draft-war-rooms/

Andrew Brandt's pretty good story on the war room.

 

[massraider]

Pretty solid article by Russ Lande and crew

 

[FunkyPlutos]

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/05/07/nfl-draft-war-rooms/

Andrew Brandt's pretty good story on the war room.

That is interesting...can't believe the teams haven't just gone to Smartboards...

 

[msommer]

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/05/07/nfl-draft-war-rooms/

Andrew Brandt's pretty good story on the war room.

That is interesting...can't believe the teams haven't just gone to Smartboards...

Probably an age thing. Give it five years and the white board marker will likely be history...

Maybe someone will make a war room app...

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

According to the Houston Chronicle, "word's spreading among media" in New York that the Jaguars will take Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel at No. 3.
Most pundits have the Jags targeting Buffalo OLB Khalil Mack or Clemson WR Sammy Watkins. But when your starting quarterback is Chad Henne, nothing can be ruled out. "Manziel would probably be the one guy you could plug in there sooner rather than later just because his style of play isn't going to change much from Year 1 to Year 2," GM Dave Caldwell said last week. Making Johnny a Jaguar would energize an organization that has been crippled by the Blaine Gabbert pick in 2010.

Related: Jaguars, Chad Henne

Source: John McClain on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

According to TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline, "a number of teams" believe there's a "real chance" Stanford ILB Shayne Skov will go undrafted.
Skov had a big college name, but lacks NFL-caliber athleticism and has injury red flags. "He’s a good guy but slow with major medical red flags," said one college scouting director. "The whole (pre-draft) process has hurt him." Skov didn't work out at the Combine. He ran a 5.09 forty at Stanford's Pro Day.

Source: TFY Draft Insider

 

[Grahamburn]

This stuff is really getting out of hand.

 

[Faust]

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

I still believe the asking price for the 1st overall pick will drop closer we get. ATL want to keep '14 2nd rnd pick but plenty of options..

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Also, the Rams at 2nd overall open for business. ATL could go to 2nd pick for Mack. Further hurts HOU leverage. I still smell a trade

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Would not be surprised at all if ultimately a 2015 1st round pick and a 2014 3rd is enough to go from 6th to 1st. Stay tuned

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Bottom line is no one is buying Texans are locked in on a guy at 1, know they could get QB at 6 or lower. Asking price will drop I reckon

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Live at Vikings headquarters, ESPN's Bob Holtzman reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Minnesota is not expected to select a quarterback at the No. 8 overall pick.
Per Holtzman, the Vikings are "prepared to wait a round or two, if not longer." UCF's Blake Bortles and Fresno State's Derek Carr are both tentatively expected to be available at No. 8, though it sounds like Minnesota would rather target someone like LSU's Zach Mettenberger or Pittsburgh's Tom Savage later on. New OC Norv Turner will want a big, strong-armed QB for his vertical offense.

Related: Vikings

 

[Faust]

Report: NFL weighing conducting the draft “a week or two later” in 2015

 

[GroveDiesel]

Report: NFL weighing conducting the draft a week or two later in 2015

I don't think it will happen simply because front offices will push back. GM's, scouts, directors, etc are exhausted from this extra 2 weeks and it is severely cutting into their down time before the season starts back up. Another 2 weeks would almost eliminate any break time for the whole year for those guys.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Didn't know where to put this but man things have changed. Here is the 1981 draft.

http://rumorsandrants.com/2012/05/1981-nfl-draft-live-blog.html

With talk that next year may be at Jerrah World I really wish it were more like this back in the day.

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Part 3 of 1981 didn't work from the link I sent. Since it features Howard Cosell going off it's just too good not to link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUrKSmWYtw

-QG

 

[Faust]

Reports: NFL could change date, location of future drafts

 

[Donnybrook]

Rotoworld:

Live at Vikings headquarters, ESPN's Bob Holtzman reported on SportsCenter Wednesday that Minnesota is not expected to select a quarterback at the No. 8 overall pick.

Per Holtzman, the Vikings are "prepared to wait a round or two, if not longer." UCF's Blake Bortles and Fresno State's Derek Carr are both tentatively expected to be available at No. 8, though it sounds like Minnesota would rather target someone like LSU's Zach Mettenberger or Pittsburgh's Tom Savage later on. New OC Norv Turner will want a big, strong-armed QB for his vertical offense.

I wish that Rotoworld could just report the news without putting their craptastic spin on it. They keep insisting that only option for the Norv and the Vikings is to draft big strong overrated QBs.

 

[flapgreen]

Drawing it out this long has made me lose a little interest.

 

[Faust]

Eric Edholm ‏@Eric_Edholm

Bingo. RT @adbrandt: Re moved-back Draft: TV ratings will be strong, interest high. NFL will use those above fan/media/team complaints.

 

[flapgreen]

Reports: NFL could change date, location of future drafts

They are really toying with things to much. I don't get this.

 

[Premier]

Didn't know where to put this but man things have changed. Here is the 1981 draft.

http://rumorsandrants.com/2012/05/1981-nfl-draft-live-blog.html

With talk that next year may be at Jerrah World I really wish it were more like this back in the day.

-QG

Why would you prefer this? People are so weird about nostalgic. That looks like an operation from a local semi-pro league.

 

[RUSF18]

The contents in this link serve as a good reminder for all those rumors (many of the same people cited).

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z12ay5walwusxfaaz04cdnzzymugyr0o0qo0k

FantasyFootball Pundit

1 year agoPublic

Every year, rumors abound in the lead up to the NFL Draft about which direction teams are leaning with their picks. NFL super fans love this kind of stuff and follow it religiously, yours truly included. But just how reliable are the intrepid reporters who follow the league on a day-to-day basis? How accurate is their reporting?

Below is a mere sampling of what goes wrong when league reporters blindly pass along info from teams and player agents without giving it much critical thought. I'm sure that I missed a lot. Its a good thing no ones really keeping track.

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When it comes to Geno Smith, Cleveland may wind up being a wild card, maybe in a trade down, maybe at 6. Albert Breer https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/323762004831637504

Theres a building buzz that the Browns could be plotting to move from No. 6 to No. 3 to get quarterback Geno Smith before the Eagles take him at No. 4. Mike Florio http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/25/browns-could-be-trying-to-get-geno-smith-before-philly/

**The Browns selected Barkevious Mingo with the sixth overall pick. They did not draft Geno Smith; they did not draft a single QB with any of their picks.

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Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel will be the first name called next week. Jason LaCanfora http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/22095728/nfl-draft-not-sexy-yet-unpredictable-well-after-tackles-are-gone

**Luke Joeckel was, in fact, the second named called.

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The No. 1 overall player on the Bills board? Tavon Austin. Ian Rappaport https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/327437942069010434

**Tavon Austin was on the board when it was time for the Bills to pick; they traded back into the 1st round, allowing the Rams to draft Austin instead.

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Jacksonville will be taking a quarterback sometime relatively high in this draft. Jason LaCanfora http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/22144275/matt-barkley----or-geno-smith----look-good-for-jags-at-no-33

Weve also heard the Bills fear that the Jaguars are interested in taking Nassib with the first pick of the second round, No. 33 overall. Mike Florio http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/24/bills-fear-jets-will-take-ryan-nassib/

The Jaguars are taking Ryan Nassib if hes available at the top of round two. Ian Rappaport http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/260277/football-headlines?r=1

The thinking in league circles is that the Jaguars will be prepared to take one of two quarterbacks [at the top of round two], if they use that pick. The expected choices are Matt Barkley or Ryan Nassib. Mike Florio http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/25/jags-targeting-nassib-or-barkley-in-round-two/

**The Jaguars did not select a quarterback at any point during the draft.

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Stacey Dales believes via source Bears will take Manti Te'o at LB if he's available. Matches what I have been hearing. Ian Rappaport https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/327501637050585088

**The Bears selected Kyle Long at pick 20; Teo was later drafted by the Chargers in the 2nd round.

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"I know one thing for sure in talking to people around the league. The Buffalo Bills want Ryan Nassib. But they're very concerned the Jets will take him later in the first round. Sal Paolantonio http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/260220/football-headlines?r=1

**Both the Bills and the Jets passed on Nassib multiple times, before he was drafted by the Giants in the 4th round.

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I have heard [the Bills] might like Matt Barkley more [than Nassib]. Albert Breer http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000162558/article/2013-nfl-draft-rumor-mill-lane-johnson-tyler-eifert-create-buzz

**The Bills drafted EJ Manuel after trading back in the 1st round, passing on both Barkley and Nassib.

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"I think the Buffalo Bills at No. 8 could make Nassib the first quarterback chosen in this draft. ... I think that has a better chance of happening than not." Chris Mortensen http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/260270/football-headlines?r=1

**Ryan Nassib was drafted in the 4th round by the Giants.

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Geno Smith will be a top-five draft pick. There isn't any doubt about it. Jason LaCanfora http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/22001735/after-freeagency-shakeout-geno-smith-a-lock-to-be-picked-in-top-five

**Geno Smith was drafted 39th overall.

 

[Grahamburn]

I can't like that post enough.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That's awesome.

 

[Faust]

Bills making calls about a trade to No. 1 or No. 2

 

[QuizGuy66]

Didn't know where to put this but man things have changed. Here is the 1981 draft.

http://rumorsandrants.com/2012/05/1981-nfl-draft-live-blog.html

With talk that next year may be at Jerrah World I really wish it were more like this back in the day.

-QG

Why would you prefer this? People are so weird about nostalgic. That looks like an operation from a local semi-pro league.

I think the more intimate surroundings with harder core fans was better. That's more what I meant. I mean the things like non-working microphones have their charms but could go I agree. A stadium setting will lose all of that. Now it's such a slick show. Overproduced. All the video info and insight - that stuff I'd keep.

That Cosell video stuff is great though - and he thought it was a spectacle in 1981

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Bills making calls about a trade to No. 1 or No. 2

Book it

Actually I vaguely recall that before last year Buffalo was known as a team that largely shot straight ahead of the draft (i.e. didn't blow so much smoke). Given what a surprise their selection of Manuel was they did a helluva job breaking that pattern.

Regardless fun to see this post after the previous one about pre-draft reports last year.

-QG

 

[Faust]

2014 NFL draft: Falcons, Texans talking trade for No. 1 pick, per report

 

[Andy Dufresne]

2014 NFL draft: Falcons, Texans talking trade for No. 1 pick, per report

Of course they're talking. I'm guessing it's something like this...

A: Price come down yet?

StL: No

[wait an hour]

A: How 'bout now?

StL: Nope

[wait an hour]

A: Now?

StL: Uh, uh.

 

[gchip]

Report: NFL weighing conducting the draft a week or two later in 2015

I don't think it will happen simply because front offices will push back. GM's, scouts, directors, etc are exhausted from this extra 2 weeks and it is severely cutting into their down time before the season starts back up. Another 2 weeks would almost eliminate any break time for the whole year for those guys.

The extra weeks also screw over the rookies. Giving your rookies 4 weeks less of time with the coaches & their playbook is idiocy and directly damages your product. Does money from May sweeps really make up for that?

 

[Faust]

NFL draft trades we'd love to see

 

[massraider]

@Edwerderespn: Nobody in the NFL will be surprised if LSU WR Odell Beckham Jr picked before Texas A&M's Mike Evans.

 

[Faust]

State of the Draft: What I’ve Heard and Who’s Going Where This Draft Weekend

 

[Faust]

NFL Draft News & Notes: May 7th NFL Draft News & Notes: May 5th

 

[massraider]

Options online for you hardcore fans that are just too hardcore for Mayock and Kiper:

Russell Lande ‏@RUSSLANDE 23m
I am very excited to be hosting a live Google Hangout on Days 1 & 2 of NFL Draft with @JoshLiskiewitz, @Bischoff_Scott & @StarvingScout .

Shane P. Hallam ‏@ShanePHallam 25m
Remember, I will be streaming live analysis every day of the draft only at http://DraftTV.com . No spoilers, chat room, and INFORMATION

I know Bloom is doing a Google hangout as well.

 

[Faust]

Sorting through smokescreens to find 2014 NFL Draft truths

 

[Faust]

Draft facts: Ravens WR and TE prospects

By Jamison Hensley | ESPN.com

With the Baltimore Ravens looking to add a wide receiver and tight end at some point in the draft, here are some numbers from ESPN Stats & Information on some selected prospects at those positions:

FIRST ROUND

Eric Ebron, North Carolina TE: Averaged 8.7 yards after the catch, best of any of the top 10 tight end prospects.

Odell Beckham Jr., LSU WR: Caught 26 passes thrown 15 yards or longer downfield last season, most among qualifying receivers. He had multiple receptions on passes of this distance in 7 of 13 games.

Brandin Cooks, Oregon WR: Gained 1,215 yards after the catch over the past two seasons, which ranked fourth among qualifying receivers. During that time, he had 23 receptions in which he gained at least 15 yards after the catch.

Marqise Lee, USC WR: Trojan quarterbacks completed 69.7 percent of their pass attempts with 29 touchdowns and just one interception when targeting Marqise Lee in his career. They averaged 10.3 yards every time they targeted Lee.

Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State WR: Produced a first down or touchdown on 83.3 percent of his receptions last season, tied for the third-highest percentage of any FBS wide receiver.

SECOND ROUND

Jace Amaro, Texas Tech TE: Produced 33 receptions of 15 yards or longer, 11th-most in the FBS and 10 more than any other tight end.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington TE: Had only three drops in 149 targets over the past two seasons. His drop percentage of 2 percent is the lowest of any top tight end prospect.

Davante Adams, Fresno State WR: Topped the FBS with 13 receiving touchdowns of 20 yards or longer. He also led the FBS in receptions (131) and touchdown catches (24).

THIRD ROUND

Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt WR: Led all qualifying receivers with 44 receptions and 421 yards on screen passes last season. He averaged 9.6 yards per reception on screens.

 

[Faust]

2014 NFL Draft: 10 Bold Predictions

 

[Faust]

2014 NFL Draft: Johnny Manziel is on the clock

 

[Donnybrook]

2014 NFL Draft: 10 Bold Predictions

Absolutely nothing bold about these predictions.

 

[massraider]

2014 NFL Draft: 10 Bold Predictions

Absolutely nothing bold about these predictions.

4 safeties in the 1st round seems bold.

 

[jurb26]

2014 NFL Draft: 10 Bold Predictions

Absolutely nothing bold about these predictions.

4 safeties in the 1st round seems bold.

That is bold. So is 12 WR in the first 2 rounds. So is Donald going 8. Absolutely none of those things should happen.

 

[Faust]

Mock draft 2.0: Manziel back in first round

 

[Faust]

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

If somebody picks Mike Evans over Sammy Watkins, they are nuts.

Chris Wesseling ‏@ChrisWesseling

Mine too RT @evansilva: I know it's seen as blasphemy on here, but yes my bet is Evans gets picked before Sammy.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports the Texans are seeking three first-round picks and a second-round pick if they are to trade down from No. 1 overall.
This is essentially the same thing ESPN's Ed Werder reported Tuesday evening. Glazer added that the Texans' demands are on a "sliding scale," which means the further they have to move back, the more the team trading up will have to surrender. If the Texans stick to their demands, they'll pick first tomorrow night.

Related: Texans

Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter

 

[massraider]

Rotoworld:

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports the Texans are seeking three first-round picks and a second-round pick if they are to trade down from No. 1 overall.
This is essentially the same thing ESPN's Ed Werder reported Tuesday evening. Glazer added that the Texans' demands are on a "sliding scale," which means the further they have to move back, the more the team trading up will have to surrender. If the Texans stick to their demands, they'll pick first tomorrow night.

Related: Texans

Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter