petenice15
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Tuck to Oak 2 years for $11 mil. Good guy and I would have given him 1 year for $3 mil, but for that contract, you can't blame him for leaving and for the Giants wishing him well.
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2015 New York Giants - WK10 Cruz announces season ending calf surgery (1 Viewer)
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Yenrub
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Giants signed Jameel McClain LB yesterday
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/03/giants_agree_to_terms_with_lb_jameel_mcclain.html
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/03/giants_agree_to_terms_with_lb_jameel_mcclain.html
Giants Sign Corner / Nickleback, Walter Thurmond ... Still interested in DRC
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334413/article/walter-thurmond-giants-agree-to-oneyear-contract
This is starting to shape up a little ...
Only thing I don't understand is why they paid so much for 29 year old Jennings when they could have had a 25 year old Ben Tate for less
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334413/article/walter-thurmond-giants-agree-to-oneyear-contract
This is starting to shape up a little ...
Only thing I don't understand is why they paid so much for 29 year old Jennings when they could have had a 25 year old Ben Tate for less
petenice15
Footballguy
I also like the Quinton Demps signing. Our KR and PR was awful last year.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Agreed. And IIRC, he hardly looked like a world beater this past season. I don't see Jennings' contract as that large either, and if we spend a bit more to get a guy that hopefully is more healthy and, imo, more talented (not that either will be mistaken for Jim Brown), I'm good with that.
I just see Tate going to a team that doesn't have the perfect system and surrounding players and sucking.
Jennings has missed about 25 games in 5 years including all of 2011 and 6 games in 2012
petenice15
Footballguy
DRC is signed for 5 years $35 million
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Koya
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petenice15
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Koya
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netnalp
Footballguy
Giants DE Mathias Kiwanuka agreed to a $2.175 million pay cut.
Kiwanuka was mentioned as a possible cap casualty following the season. Instead, he's reducing his 2014 base salary from $4.375 million to $1.5 million and receives a $700,000 bonus in return. Kiwi can earn another $125,000 back via incentives. The move created $2.05 million in cap space for the Giants.
Kiwanuka was mentioned as a possible cap casualty following the season. Instead, he's reducing his 2014 base salary from $4.375 million to $1.5 million and receives a $700,000 bonus in return. Kiwi can earn another $125,000 back via incentives. The move created $2.05 million in cap space for the Giants.
netnalp
Footballguy
ProFootballTalk & #8207;@ProFootballTalk 17s
Trindon Holliday agrees to terms with Giants. League source. One year deal.
Holliday wasn't tendered an offer as an exclusive rights free agent by the Broncos. The soon-to-be 28-year-old is a dynamic return man but has fumbled 11 times the past two years. He averaged 8.5 yards on punt returns and 27.7 yards on kickoff returns in 2013. Holliday has four return scores in two seasons.
Trindon Holliday agrees to terms with Giants. League source. One year deal.
Holliday wasn't tendered an offer as an exclusive rights free agent by the Broncos. The soon-to-be 28-year-old is a dynamic return man but has fumbled 11 times the past two years. He averaged 8.5 yards on punt returns and 27.7 yards on kickoff returns in 2013. Holliday has four return scores in two seasons.
I think I would rather have Barr if he is available ...his highlights look awesome. Reminds a bit of LT the way throws his body around and hits like a beast.
His highlights are much more impressive than Khalil Mack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPf3bj_VbE
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Somebody
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I don't like the DRC signing. He is being way overpaid IMO.
I think losing Joseph is going to sting more than it's being talked about. I am interested in seeing how good Hankins can be but Jenkins is 33 and the depth is terrible. Aaron Donald would be an interesting pick in the 1st round, especially if Lewan and Ebron are gone. I like Barr, but they have signed/re-signed several LBs and Reese doesn't take LBs in the 1st round.
I think losing Joseph is going to sting more than it's being talked about. I am interested in seeing how good Hankins can be but Jenkins is 33 and the depth is terrible. Aaron Donald would be an interesting pick in the 1st round, especially if Lewan and Ebron are gone. I like Barr, but they have signed/re-signed several LBs and Reese doesn't take LBs in the 1st round.
Giants Sign another Guard John Jerry from Dolphins.
Huge 6'5" 334 has started 33 consecutive games and 45 of 57 games ... Graded out positive as a pass blocker but weak against the run.
Still think the Giants have issues at C and LT ...
Not sure about JD Walton seems like his ankle injury was pretty severe ... severe enough for Denver to cut him even though he had started every game with them since he was drafted.
I think Will Beatty is done as the Giants LT coming off a bad season and a bad injury ...The Giants desperately need a LT. If Lewan falls to them (unlikely) they will be in really good shape on the Oline with depth, youth and flexibility.
Huge 6'5" 334 has started 33 consecutive games and 45 of 57 games ... Graded out positive as a pass blocker but weak against the run.
Still think the Giants have issues at C and LT ...
Not sure about JD Walton seems like his ankle injury was pretty severe ... severe enough for Denver to cut him even though he had started every game with them since he was drafted.
I think Will Beatty is done as the Giants LT coming off a bad season and a bad injury ...The Giants desperately need a LT. If Lewan falls to them (unlikely) they will be in really good shape on the Oline with depth, youth and flexibility.
netnalp
Footballguy
Giants receive a 5th round compensatory pick in the upcoming draft. Reese says he was expecting a 7th so this was a pleasant surprise.
[SIZE=medium]Giants 2014 Draft Picks[/SIZE]
First Round (No. 12)
Second Round (No. 43)
Third Round (No. 74)
Fourth Round (No. 113)
Fifth Round (No. 152)
Fifth Round (No. 174 - Compensatory)
Sixth Round (No. 187)
Seventh Round (No. 225)
[SIZE=medium]Giants 2014 Draft Picks[/SIZE]
First Round (No. 12)
Second Round (No. 43)
Third Round (No. 74)
Fourth Round (No. 113)
Fifth Round (No. 152)
Fifth Round (No. 174 - Compensatory)
Sixth Round (No. 187)
Seventh Round (No. 225)
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Yenrub
Footballguy
Former scout doesn't think Lewan or Ebron will be available for the Giants at 12
http://www.bigblueview.com/2014/3/27/5551192/2014-nfl-draft-giants-taylor-lewan-eric-ebron-aaron-donald
http://www.bigblueview.com/2014/3/27/5551192/2014-nfl-draft-giants-taylor-lewan-eric-ebron-aaron-donald
netnalp
Footballguy
Giants sign DE Robert Ayers for 2 years. He's 28, only 12 sacks in 5 seasons. Good run stopper. Looks like he takes over Tucks spot. Probably DeMontre comes in on passing downs.
Signed former Saint OT Charles Brown. 27 yrs old, started till he got benched in week 15 vs. the Rams DE's.
Re-singed DT Patterson. That's good he played well last year. Makes a good, cheap patch for the DT hole till a younger player is found.
Signed former Saint OT Charles Brown. 27 yrs old, started till he got benched in week 15 vs. the Rams DE's.
Re-singed DT Patterson. That's good he played well last year. Makes a good, cheap patch for the DT hole till a younger player is found.
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RC94
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
something tells me they're going to either trade up to snag Ebron ,Clowney ( if they can get the Rams off of the #2 pick), or even Watkins/Evans.if not I think they'll trade down..I doubt they stay put at #12..they've made a lot of moves to fill holes, and it will enable some freedom with that first pick..
This is Reese and co. we're talking about right?
I was pining for them to move up and grab Richardson last year. I wish the FO took some risks every now and then. Not that I'm particularly unhappy with Pugh.
Yenrub
Footballguy
All of the so called experts say that this draft is deep and the Giants still have a lot of holes to fill so I don’t like the idea of trading up for a player
Trading up is typically a bad idea when you have a lot of holes to fill. Yeah I know the Giants got lucky with the Eli trade but it was a bad trade that worked out for us in the end.
I don’t think the Giants have enough ammo to get up to #2 anyway
Agreed ... Unless any of these 8 or 9 guys falls to them I would trade back if possible. I would take Mathews or Lewan over anybody but Clowney and maybe Watkins
- Clowney - No Chance
- Sammy Watkins - No chance
- Jake Mathews
- Taylor Lewan
- Khalil Mack (I don't love him as much as everyone else)
- Greg Robinson
- Eric Ebron
- Mike Evans
- Maybe - Anthony Barr ( Was very high on him until I realized he played in a 3-4)
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Question to Giant fans just for the sake of discussion.
While I appreciate everything he has done for us, I am not a huge Eli fan and I think he may be starting decline.
What do you think he could bring back in a trade? Would one of the top 5 teams give up a 1st and 2nd this year and a 1st next year? Would the Rams give up the 2nd and 13th picks this year? Or the Browns 4th and 26th this year and a 1st next year? Imagine what the Giants could do with those picks?
While I appreciate everything he has done for us, I am not a huge Eli fan and I think he may be starting decline.
What do you think he could bring back in a trade? Would one of the top 5 teams give up a 1st and 2nd this year and a 1st next year? Would the Rams give up the 2nd and 13th picks this year? Or the Browns 4th and 26th this year and a 1st next year? Imagine what the Giants could do with those picks?
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Interesting thought, but moot because there is no way in hell they trade Eli. Nor would any team give up those picks. He's 33 and coming off one of the worst seasons of his career. If he follows up last year's numbers with more of the same, then maybe next season it becomes a discussion. Would be very unlike the Giants to cut bait on him at this point.
netnalp
Footballguy
There has also been some mocking DT Aaron Donald to the Giants.
I've read that it's very unlikely that Mack is there at 12.
netnalp
Footballguy
With his age, season he had and salary the Giants might get a 5th rounder for him. I like Eli but he isn't a certainty to turn a team he goes to into a playoff contender. They wouldn't offer much.
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lod01
Footballguy
Excellent timing. What a bunch of idiots.
Eli Manning will undergo an arthroscopic procedure on his left ankle, Conor Orr of the Newark Star-Ledger reports.
The Giants quarterback sustained a high ankle sprain during the season finale against the Redskins and, according to a post on the team's web site, is still "experiencing some discomfort" during the start of his offseason prep work.
He is expected to be out for at least six weeks.
Manning will receive the procedure today in Charlotte. He had been working with wide receivers, and his brother, Peyton, at Duke University.
The move puts him out of service for the beginning of offseason workouts, which are slated to start April 21.
steveski
Footballguy
After reading Matt Waldman's opinion on Aaron Donald, I'm warming up to the idea of taking him.
http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2014/04/09/futures-pitt-dt-aaron-donald/
Yeah I wouldn't be upset at all if they took him after watching that.
The only problem is I hate replacing a player (Linval Joseph) with a 1st round pick.
I want someone who is going to start right away ... still praying for Lewan to fall
netnalp
Footballguy
I like Donald. He's an attacking DT. The Giants need that since they haven't been able to get reliable pressure for years with the rotation of keeping 2 reliable and fresh DE's on the field. Even back in the days of the SB run with Strahan, Osi and Tuck, they had trouble getting to the QB without rushing a LB or DB too. It's a misnomer that the Giants during their SB seasons were able to get pressure with just rushing the Dline.
Linval was a solid run stopper but wasn't going to get in the back field. Donald seems like a better match for the Giants scheme.
Kirwan and Miller did a hypothetical trade between the Browns and Giants today on movin the chains. Something like this ...
Miller (Browns) calls Kirwan (Giants) - I hear you guys are a little down on Eli ... would you be interested in moving him?
Kirwan - Maybe but we would want two 1st rounders in return .................... This year.
Miller - I'd give you one this year and one next year
Kirwan - Ok but it had better be the 4th pick this year
Miller - Wait a minute I thought some people in your front office believe Eli is on the Downside.
Kirwan - Hold on just a minute ................................................those guys are fired, lets talk.
After, Kirwan went on to say in all seriousness, If you're the Browns with their history of QB problems ... Are you going to take your chances and roll with an unproven rookie or take the 2 time Superbowl Champion and MVP who would immediately be the greatest leader in Browns history? Oh ... and the Browns have tons of cap space.
Again ...this was hypothetical, but I think Eli (Or any proven QB) has more value than you might think. There are only a handful of QBs playing in the NFL that have won superbowls ... never mind two.
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