***2015 San Diego Chargers - Offseason News, Notes, & Analysis*** (1 Viewer)

[Tau837]

Great take from another board:

Good God the Chargers are bad. They suck. I mean REALLY suck. They are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. They don't even look like an NFL team. They're more like a semipro team made up of carpenters, electricians, and plumbers who just sort of dabble in football in their spare time. The CIncinnati Cyclones ECHL hockey team looks more like an NHL team than the Chargers look like an NFL team. The worst part of all this is that even when they land a high draft pick this year, their front office won't have a clue what to do with it because if they were any dumber they'd all be flesh-eating zombies.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Great take from another board:

Good God the Chargers are bad. They suck. I mean REALLY suck. They are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. They don't even look like an NFL team. They're more like a semipro team made up of carpenters, electricians, and plumbers who just sort of dabble in football in their spare time. The CIncinnati Cyclones ECHL hockey team looks more like an NHL team than the Chargers look like an NFL team. The worst part of all this is that even when they land a high draft pick this year, their front office won't have a clue what to do with it because if they were any dumber they'd all be flesh-eating zombies.

And yet they still had a chance to win 3 (at least) of their last several games on the final drive. The O-line is a total joke. None of these guys would start for another team, seriously. Anyone making an argument otherwise is not watching the games. Every effort should go there, DL and Defensive Back 2nd and 3rd. It's sad though. Gates, like all the greats before him, will retire with no ring. Rivers will likely be wasted while they rebuild (or attempt to) around him. And then who is left to root for as a longtime fan? I'll pull for Sproles in Philly or Jackson in Tampa I guess.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Not sure the Chargers are going to get much for a trade up; this isn't a draft win an obvious franchise player or two at the top. Bolts may be best just taking Bosa and drafting a center and safety in rounds 2 and 3.

 

[Tau837]

REPORT: Chargers signed Tom Telesco to multi-year extension

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Huge news out off San Diego: GM Tom Telesco received a multi-yr extension in the summer. He is safe. Team will review coaches after season

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Telesco very much will remain part of franchise moving forward. Team has faith in McCoy and laud his leadership despite injuries...

 

[Bucky86]

McCoy is most definitely gone, but still looking good for a top 5 draft pick!

 

[Gr00vus]

REPORT: Chargers signed Tom Telesco to multi-year extension

Jason La CanforaVerified account

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Huge news out off San Diego: GM Tom Telesco received a multi-yr extension in the summer. He is safe. Team will review coaches after season

Jason La CanforaVerified account

‏@JasonLaCanfora
Telesco very much will remain part of franchise moving forward. Team has faith in McCoy and laud his leadership despite injuries...

Idiots. Even if he's working for free.

I look forward to seeing him trade up to draft a fullback in the 1st.

I hate the Spanoses.

 

[flapgreen]

Awful team and franchise. Move them already.

 

[Gr00vus]

I know it's b.s. but I think I'd be very happy if the rumors/suggestion about Spanos and Kronke trading teams happened, with the Chargers moving to Los Angeles. At least Kroenke isn't afraid to spend money. It would be sad to see Rivers get done like that, but us Charger fans would get to root for Gurley for a while. Then again, the Rams have had even less success than the Chargers over the last 10 years or so.

 

[Tau837]

I know it's b.s. but I think I'd be very happy if the rumors/suggestion about Spanos and Kronke trading teams happened, with the Chargers moving to Los Angeles. At least Kroenke isn't afraid to spend money. It would be sad to see Rivers get done like that, but us Charger fans would get to root for Gurley for a while. Then again, the Rams have had even less success than the Chargers over the last 10 years or so.

I don't follow. If Kroenke became owner of the Chargers and moved them to LA, and Spanos became owner of the Rams and kept them in St. Louis, why would you root for Gurley? Your rooting would follow Spanos to St. Louis, rather than the Chargers to LA?

 

[Tau837]

So injuries have been an excuse used often to rationalize the Chargers' lousy performance this season. But according to this, the Chargers had lost 111 player games through week 14, and 20 other teams have lost more. The team that has lost the most is New England, which is a strong Super Bowl contender. That article also attempts to quantify the value of the games lost, and ranks the Chargers at #18.

Just more evidence that the coaching staff needs to go.

 

[Gr00vus]

I know it's b.s. but I think I'd be very happy if the rumors/suggestion about Spanos and Kronke trading teams happened, with the Chargers moving to Los Angeles. At least Kroenke isn't afraid to spend money. It would be sad to see Rivers get done like that, but us Charger fans would get to root for Gurley for a while. Then again, the Rams have had even less success than the Chargers over the last 10 years or so.

I don't follow. If Kroenke became owner of the Chargers and moved them to LA, and Spanos became owner of the Rams and kept them in St. Louis, why would you root for Gurley? Your rooting would follow Spanos to St. Louis, rather than the Chargers to LA?

I was under the impression that they'd keep the roster, front office, etc. that they have - just the franchise names/markets would be swapped. Is that not how it would work?

 

[Tau837]

I know it's b.s. but I think I'd be very happy if the rumors/suggestion about Spanos and Kronke trading teams happened, with the Chargers moving to Los Angeles. At least Kroenke isn't afraid to spend money. It would be sad to see Rivers get done like that, but us Charger fans would get to root for Gurley for a while. Then again, the Rams have had even less success than the Chargers over the last 10 years or so.

I don't follow. If Kroenke became owner of the Chargers and moved them to LA, and Spanos became owner of the Rams and kept them in St. Louis, why would you root for Gurley? Your rooting would follow Spanos to St. Louis, rather than the Chargers to LA?

I was under the impression that they'd keep the roster, front office, etc. that they have - just the franchise names/markets would be swapped. Is that not how it would work?

That's not how I read Chargers-Rams franchise swap could be only way out of L.A. maze:

...giving the Chargers to Stan Kroenke (who would move them to L.A.) and the Rams to Dean Spanos (who would keep them in Missouri)...

 

[Ladsud]

That was classy of them how they handled Weddle!

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

That was classy of them how they handled Weddle!

Watch the pats sign him next year

 

[Gr00vus]

That was classy of them how they handled Weddle!

Watch the pats sign him next year

This franchise is an embarrassment. ####### lousy owners.

Oh well, how about that Tyrell Williams?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So what pick we got?? 4 or 5??

 

[cstu]

So what pick we got?? 4 or 5??

3

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/01/nfl_draft_order_2016_buffalo_bills.html

 

[Gr00vus]

So what pick we got?? 4 or 5??

3

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/01/nfl_draft_order_2016_buffalo_bills.html

Can't wait to see how they screw that up.

 

[Gr00vus]

Have we seen the last of Antonio Gates?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Have we seen the last of Antonio Gates?

He should retire

 

[cstu]

So what pick we got?? 4 or 5??

3

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/01/nfl_draft_order_2016_buffalo_bills.html

Can't wait to see how they screw that up.

I'm told there's a good RB in the draft.

 

[Tau837]

***OFFICIAL*** San Diego (?) Chargers 2016 Offseason Thread

 

[Gr00vus]

Clueless idiots. This team will never win a championship with Spanos as the owner.

I like the like of this a year later.

 

[BoltBacker]

I like the like of this a year later.

I was mulling it over. In retrospect it sure looks a lot silly than most of what was said in this thread.

 

[Tau837]

On 5/2/2015 at 4:25 PM, Just Win Baby said:

1. Any competent GM should be pulling out 3 starters from every draft for a team with as many holes as the Chargers.

2. You seem to be counting all of Fluker, Allen, Teo, Attouchu, Verrett, Watt, and Carrethers as starters. Attouchu, Verrett, Watt, and Carrethers to date have 10 starts between them. I think all will likely start, but you don't know that yet.

3. Someone being a starter does not in and of itself mean he was a good pick. A guy like Carrethers could become a starter as much due to the weakness of the team at his position as due to his own merits.

4. How many of these starters are better than average at their positions? I'd say none so far. Is drafting average starters the metric for successful drafting? Gordon looks like the first guy Telesco will have drafted who will be above average at his position.

5. How many starters do you think Telesco drafted in this year's draft? We know Gordon will start. I suspect that's it for the short term. So that will make up to 8 starters in 3 drafts. That doesn't look as good, does it?

It's amazing how much I find myself disagreeing with you about everything lately. That's a new development. For the past ten years or however long it's been, I'd agreed with most of your posts.

1. Having 50% of your draft picks become starters each year is pretty amazing. I don't think you'll find many NFL teams doing that over the long run. The Chargers certainly haven't in their pre-Telesco history. (It is a legitimate criticism that he's made only 17 picks in three years -- I'd rather the number be around 24.)

2. Those seven guys look like good bets to start; it seems you agree with this.

3. Other than in the first round, a guy being a starter does mean it was a good pick. After the third round, a guy just making the team as a backup generally means it was a good pick. Having 10 of 12 players from the last two drafts still on the roster is pretty sick.

4. It's hard to evaluate guys on just their first few snaps. But so far, I'd say Verrett looks like a star, Fluker and Allen look solidly above average with the potential to be stars, Te'o looks like he's on the verge of being solidly above average, and a number of other guys (e.g., Attaochu, Carrethers) could be solidly above average or even stars -- it's too soon to tell.

5. This is a nonsense question, but based on Telesco's history, five seems like at least as good an answer as one.

Regarding the bolded, how about now @Maurile Tremblay?

 

[BoltBacker]

Acee changes his tune.

"If the Chargers want to win in 2015 ...the team’s first-round pick needs to be a running back."

And he still gets it wrong.

Maybe Telesco will have better luck listening to the local fiction writers up in LA.

But the brain trust(acee/telesco) were right in that using multiple picks to draft Gordon did lead to nine wins. The only problem is it took them two seasons to accomplish that win total.

 

[Riversco]

Most people have a problem with being over critical and it clouds their judgement.  Tremblay is one of rarer types that struggles to criticize to the point where it clouds his judgement.  He's our "home version" of John Gruden.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

why are we bumping old threads?? boredom?

 

[BoltBacker]

why are we bumping old threads?? boredom?

Because inside the threads we discuss what will happen in the future. If kevin acee says that the way for SD to succeed is to draft a RB in the first round there is no way to prove that he's wrong until the future becomes the past. It seemed kind of obvious to many of us that there were much deeper problems with this franchise that simply over-drafting a RB(and spending multiple picks at that) but we aren't all paid to have an educated opinion on the subject like acee, the "expert" charger media analyst.

And yes, probably boredom as well. Why does anyone post in new threads? Why does anyone watch football for that matter?