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2016 Cakeleeg ***OFFICIAL*** - 2017 draft starting soon (2 Viewers)

Chemical X said:
part of the interesting aspect of cake draft is that every owner is a legit eggspurt at fantasy sports...............but really, our owners are nationwide and some guys simply have homer leans on players.  I don't think anyone is going under the radar and if you truly want a guy, may as well grab him.  Sano for me in the 2nd is early, because I just want something a bit more that I can rely on at that point in the draft, but its the kind of pick that can win or lose a draft.  that early, it can lose it more than win it, because you could get some guys that you know will put up the numbers that you are projecting him for.  3b eligibility helps.  I figure he wouldn't have made it out of the 3rd round. 
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Probably would've passed on him if not for 3B. That made a big difference to me, and I do think he has 35 homers in him. OBP is my concern. 

 
Next to Correa, Sano is probably the biggest risk-reward guy out there. Has the pedigree and looks like a stud, but only 279 major league ABs and a 36% strikeout rate is a bit frightening. Id like to see a little history before ranking him that high.  I always think about Brett Lawrie's cup of coffee in 2011 and the hype that surrounded him that off-season. He destroyed a lot of fantasy teams in 2012.

ETA - And drafting these guys way ahead of their ADP (or ranking or whatever you want to call it) only increases the risk and decreases the reward. I love both of these guys, but they wont end up on any of me teams this year.

 
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Capella said:
You can't finish ahead of me, because somebody else is doing all the work for you. 
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Hack is pretty dreamy. :wub:

We better take this to the CFB thread, the natives are getting angry with us.  :hifive:

ETA:  for the record Capella and I do this all the time.  The only thing we really disagree on is the aesthetically pleasing nature of certain college football uniforms. 

 
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Doctor Detroit said:
Hack is pretty dreamy. :wub:

We better take this to the CFB thread, the natives are getting angry with us.  :hifive:

ETA:  for the record Capella and I do this all the time.  The only thing we really disagree on is the aesthetically pleasing nature of certain college football uniforms. 
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I do want to ask this legit question......

if kris bryant is a top 10 pick (he has been at least that in my drafts), why wouldn't sano be considered a 1-2 rounder?  I have not deep dived, but don't they have strikingly similar numbers across the minors and majors?  bryant has 300 more PAs?  same eligibility.  asking for a friend. 

 
E-Z Glider said:
Next to Correa, Sano is probably the biggest risk-reward guy out there. Has the pedigree and looks like a stud, but only 279 major league ABs and a 36% strikeout rate is a bit frightening. Id like to see a little history before ranking him that high.  I always think about Brett Lawrie's cup of coffee in 2011 and the hype that surrounded him that off-season. He destroyed a lot of fantasy teams in 2012.
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I have Correa in my home keeper and I'm really tempering expectations with him.  I think Sano is a top 7 3Bman or so with a top 3 ceiling, you're gonna get some neat power numbers with him and a high OBP.  His BABIP was ridiculously high though so some average regression is possible. 

 
E-Z Glider said:
Next to Correa, Sano is probably the biggest risk-reward guy out there. Has the pedigree and looks like a stud, but only 279 major league ABs and a 36% strikeout rate is a bit frightening. Id like to see a little history before ranking him that high.  I always think about Brett Lawrie's cup of coffee in 2011 and the hype that surrounded him that off-season. He destroyed a lot of fantasy teams in 2012.
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I have him I pie and agree

 
Chemical X said:
I do want to ask this legit question......

if kris bryant is a top 10 pick (he has been at least that in my drafts), why wouldn't sano be considered a 1-2 rounder?  I have not deep dived, but don't they have strikingly similar numbers across the minors and majors?  bryant has 300 more PAs?  same eligibility.  asking for a friend. 
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Great point. I would add him to the list of high risk/reward guys (who are being over-drafted, IMHO, thus increasing their risk and decreasing their reward).

 
Chemical X said:
I do want to ask this legit question......

if kris bryant is a top 10 pick (he has been at least that in my drafts), why wouldn't sano be considered a 1-2 rounder?  I have not deep dived, but don't they have strikingly similar numbers across the minors and majors?  bryant has 300 more PAs?  same eligibility.  asking for a friend. 
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Bryant plays for the Cubs?  I think they are pretty similar.  I wouldn't take Bryant in the early second where he is going, I'd wait for Rendon, Sano, or one of the guys that hasn't been taken yet. 

 
Peyton Marino said:
Where does Machado #1 overall rank on this list?
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Touche, except that Machado now has an established track-record in MLB and has some of the best indicators in the game. There's no reason to predict or expect regression.

Put it this way. If Carlos Correa puts up 35/20 this season, I bet he's the consensus #1 overall pick in the 2017 draft. How is that any different than Machado this year?

 
Bogart said:
Sano went in the second round of this year's BTTF draft, so there's that.
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47th!

NFBC ADP is 61...highest he has gone in an NFBC draft is 36 and lowest is 90.  Think that's for AVG leagues though, or at least a mix.  Has more value in OBP...could hit .220, but still have a .320 OBP.

 
E-Z Glider said:
Touche, except that Machado now has an established track-record in MLB and has some of the best indicators in the game. There's no reason to predict or expect regression.

Put it this way. If Carlos Correa puts up 35/20 this season, I bet he's the consensus #1 overall pick in the 2017 draft. How is that any different than Machado this year?
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Take it to the Pie thread! And make some picks while you guys are in there.

 
E-Z Glider said:
Touche, except that Machado now has an established track-record in MLB and has some of the best indicators in the game. There's no reason to predict or expect regression.

Put it this way. If Carlos Correa puts up 35/20 this season, I bet he's the consensus #1 overall pick in the 2017 draft. How is that any different than Machado this year?
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E-Z Glider said:
Touche, except that Machado now has an established track-record in MLB and has some of the best indicators in the game. There's no reason to predict or expect regression.

Put it this way. If Carlos Correa puts up 35/20 this season, I bet he's the consensus #1 overall pick in the 2017 draft. How is that any different than Machado this year?
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Kris Bryant has a full season of really good production under his belt

We will revisit in October when he is the #1 overall player in all formats.

 
Conf call with a lithium company in 30 minutes.  Because I'm a decent human and respectful of others, I'll leave a short list with Shuke via Sext Message.  Shuke, I assume you'll do the needful while I'm away?  This will be for pick 5.13 only.  I need to see what Catshirt does before making another pick, but he's probably getting an EKG after he rescues some dame from a submerged vehicle.  

 
Granted, he could end up with 1B, 3B and/or OF. But my point was the stats we use to score in this league will probably be very similar.

 
cosjobs said:
Sano is 3B eligible?
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