I wish there was more concrete information on Osuna's health. I haven't seen a Jays-Rangers series price yet, but if Osuna was 100% healthy, I'd love to back Toronto at whatever + number they open at. Rangers pen is atrocious and I think that would be a big advantage for Toronto.Texas preseason win total was mid 80s in Vegas and Fat ### dying was a mercy killing that benefited them. What, you didn't get 30 starts from Colby Lewis?Yeah that really hurt.
They were lucky, extremely lucky.
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***2016 MLB Playoff thread: Cubs win for first time since sliced bread hit market (2 Viewers)
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Doctor Detroit
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Had the Jays used Sanchez or Happ in the wildcard game, advantage Texas with Yu and Hamels. Now though it seems like a pretty even series with the Jays having played high pressure games for the past two weeks. Should be a good deal of scoring in these games, both line-ups have a ton of power, they were 6th and 7th in OPS, with Jays taking a lot more walks.I wish there was more concrete information on Osuna's health. I haven't seen a Jays-Rangers series price yet, but if Osuna was 100% healthy, I'd love to back Toronto at whatever + number they open at. Rangers pen is atrocious and I think that would be a big advantage for Toronto.Texas preseason win total was mid 80s in Vegas and Fat ### dying was a mercy killing that benefited them. What, you didn't get 30 starts from Colby Lewis?
They were lucky, extremely lucky.
Both bullpens seem questionable to me, I like Matt Bush's use late in the season and Toronto has an experienced guy like Grilli to bridge to Osuna. Agree on Osuna though, he makes a difference. Rooting for whoever wins this series to win the AL, so trying not to take sides. But the hurt in the Rangers ###### is strong, sooooooooooo strong.
What's the deal with black guys* soaking the walls. That's what boobs and faces are for.Reminds me of Cooter from Dukes of Hazard. Seems dumb, isn't dumb, gets all the tail Bo is too good for and they always let him finish inside.
* Black guys = DD&AR
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Paint the closet FTWWhat's the deal with black guys* soaking the walls. That's what boobs and faces are for.Reminds me of Cooter from Dukes of Hazard. Seems dumb, isn't dumb, gets all the tail Bo is too good for and they always let him finish inside.
* Black guys = DD&AR
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
lol you strike me as one of those donkeys who bets simply because it's "free money"
We all know that the regular season doesn't matter, but for the sake of entertainment, and being the only thing we have to work with, here are the 2nd half stats
Ranger relievers are 20-4 with 24 saves 8 blown. 3.50 ERA / 1.23 WHIP / 2.7 WAR
Blue Jays relievers are 13-12 with 20 saves / 10 blown. 4.18 ERA / 1.25 WHIP / 1.6 WAR
But I'm sure the Rangers just had an easy schedule in the 2nd half.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Beisbol is serious business™
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
The only thing you've done is throw around ludicrous ideas about how the playoffs should be formatted and insults that would make a 2nd grader on a Pokemon Go forum ask 'Is that all you got?'.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Yeah let's do a position by position WAR comparison. Rangers come out ahead at catcher. And at catcher, hmmmm.. Not first base, second base, third base, shortstop or outfield. Osuna/Biagini ahead of Dyson/Bush.
Jays 4th best starter has the same WAR as Texas' #1 (3.0).
Hey 1-run games and getting "revenge" in the 33rd and final plate appearance of the season against Bautista? Texas owns that.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I like the Blue Jays too if they're at +110ish, which is what I'm seeing. They're just the better team.
Also if you're bored/annoyed with our friend tjnc09 just make "Warriors blew a 3-1 lead" jokes. Never ever gets old.
Also if you're bored/annoyed with our friend tjnc09 just make "Warriors blew a 3-1 lead" jokes. Never ever gets old.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Easy there, my Canadian friend. Our resident baseball expert called out the bullpen, and only the bullpen, as his reason for backing the Jays. So that's the ammo I brought to the table. I like Toronto in the series too, but the idea of laying money on them just because 'the Rangers pen is atrocious' when the Blue Jays pen has been arguably worse is, let's just say, donkeyish
Northern Voice
Footballguy
This is true. I was probably reacting to a few other similar articles I've read this morning, as much as your post.
Jays bullpen is concerning. I think they're better everywhere else. Love Beltre/Darvish, don't like pretty much everyone else on that team.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Vegas numbers there pretty good overall.Texas preseason win total was mid 80s in Vegas and Fat ### dying was a mercy killing that benefited them. What, you didn't get 30 starts from Colby Lewis?
They were lucky, extremely lucky.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Yeah, the Jays pen is trash if they have to bring in anyone besides Biagini, Grilli or Osuna. I guess either Liriano and/or Stroman will be available as well which can only help.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Jays going with Estrada, Happ, Sanchez and Stroman. Liriano in the pen.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Games 3 and 4 against Martin Perez and Colby Lewis? Or do Hamels/Darvish get games 4 and 5 as well as 1/2.
Here is the type of #### you post. Don't quit your day job.
Most of those starts were not against this Mets roster, which has hit him reasonably well this year (4 runs over 11 total innings with a .739 OPS).
I lean Mets here, because I'm not sure how well-equipped the Giants are to take advantage of Syndergaard's massive achilles heel- stolen bases. Syndergaard is IMO the second-best starter in the game when it comes to getting the man at the plate. The reason his ERA is "just" 2.60 is that if you have the right personnel, every walk or bloop or ground ball with eyes is an automatic double, or even a triple. But I don't see anyone equipped to take advantage of that in the Giants' projected starting lineup. Pagan and Span are really the only SB threats, and that's using "threat" pretty liberally. They should still be able to swipe a base, but you'd prefer guaranteed extra bases up and down the lineup considering how hard it is to get on base against him in the first place.
FWIW I also really like the Orioles tonight, just because they kill right-handed pitching. Not much more to it than that.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Whoa, you really got me there. Reposting something I bumped myself an hour ago to poke fun at myself. I bet two underdogs and they both lost!
Here is the type of #### you post. Don't quit your day job.
Most of those starts were not against this Mets roster, which has hit him reasonably well this year (4 runs over 11 total innings with a .739 OPS).
I lean Mets here, because I'm not sure how well-equipped the Giants are to take advantage of Syndergaard's massive achilles heel- stolen bases. Syndergaard is IMO the second-best starter in the game when it comes to getting the man at the plate. The reason his ERA is "just" 2.60 is that if you have the right personnel, every walk or bloop or ground ball with eyes is an automatic double, or even a triple. But I don't see anyone equipped to take advantage of that in the Giants' projected starting lineup. Pagan and Span are really the only SB threats, and that's using "threat" pretty liberally. They should still be able to swipe a base, but you'd prefer guaranteed extra bases up and down the lineup considering how hard it is to get on base against him in the first place.
FWIW I also really like the Orioles tonight, just because they kill right-handed pitching. Not much more to it than that.
You of all people should know that underdogs do sometimes win, though. For example, do you remember the 2016 NBA Finals? The Golden State Warriors won 73 games, the most in league history, and they had the unanimous league MVP on their team, but they still blew a 3-1 series lead to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Talk about underdogs, am I right?
Osuna is a big piece in a five game series. Where did I say that was the only reason? I'm not surprised Northern Voice liked your post. He doesn't know wtf he is talking about either. I learned that last year when I told the Jays fans their team was trash.
Peak
Footballguy
Orioles will definitely have a great night tonight...from their homes...watching on TV like the rest of 'Merica since they were knocked out of the playoffs by Toronto.
I've seen my teams win four championships since 2010. Your constant posting about the Warriors last year is pretty ####### stupid.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I'm not surprised Northern Voice liked your post. He doesn't know wtf he is talking about either. I learned that last year when I told the Jays fans their team was trash.
Looking for your other reasons, outside of the atrociousness of the Rangers pen, on why to take Toronto here seem to be as easy to find as those people that like your playoff format.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
This is like conversing with Osmium
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Your insults are a real kick in the nuts. Not unlike when Draymond Green was suspended for Game 5 for kicking too many people in the nuts, one of several reasons the 73 win Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
You've made it clear in here multiple times in here you have no concept of math, so this really doesn't bother me. Enjoy your dream world of 16 team playoffs where randomness trumps all though.
I'm not surprised Northern Voice liked your post. He doesn't know wtf he is talking about either. I learned that last year when I told the Jays fans their team was trash.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Personally, I like the part where all 3 of us like Toronto in this series, but somehow its only me and you that are lacking intelligence.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I like the parts where too much weight is given to a 162 game regular season and more should be put on 5/7 (did he say 3 at one point
) game series' to determine the best team, because ???? (Cardinals/Royals, I assume).
this thread is a disaster, huh?
The General
Footballguy
Looking forward to a great day of baseball.
Leaving Canada today, they have had the Odor / Bautista game playing on a 24 hour loop for last 2 days on one of the sports channels in my hotel
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Have seen the fight highlights probably 5-6 times as I'm walking by bars or places with TV's.
This is west coast can't imagine what Toronto is like.
Leaving Canada today, they have had the Odor / Bautista game playing on a 24 hour loop for last 2 days on one of the sports channels in my hotel
.Have seen the fight highlights probably 5-6 times as I'm walking by bars or places with TV's.
This is west coast can't imagine what Toronto is like.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Fans don't talk about it as much as you'd think, maybe because there's been so much focus on just getting to the game, but you're 100% right about the media. They're really pushing that angle at every opportunity.Looking forward to a great day of baseball.
Leaving Canada today, they have had the Odor / Bautista game playing on a 24 hour loop for last 2 days on one of the sports channels in my hotel
Have seen the fight highlights probably 5-6 times as I'm walking by bars or places with TV's.
This is west coast can't imagine what Toronto is like.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Haven't seen much talk of the other series starting today. Is everyone just penciling in the Red Sox to advance due to the Indians' health issues in the rotation? I don't know what side I like with the series prices I'm seeing (-160/+140).
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Capella
Footballguy
I can't help it if the majority of people who casually watch sports aren't very smart.
Bogart
Footballguy
No thanks.This board has shown me the light. The bullpen is garbage, the team is garbage, one-run victories don't really count, the Texas injuries were actually a god-send, Toronto will out draw everyone attendance wise, and throw way more beer bottles onto the field.
Sarcasm aside, I like my team.
- Going into the final game, the "garbage, worst in the AL" bullpen, put together 35 innings of scoreless baseball, a franchise record. Winning the division early helped get the bullpen rest/realigned, with guys like Jeffress and Barnette being extremely fresh. Other guys like Bush and Kela pitching the best baseball of their season right now. Not saying they are going to be lights out, but they are looking the best they have looked all year. "Smoking hot", you might say
- Rangers played much better against good teams (60-31) versus bad teams (35-36) this year. Welcome to the playoffs, where there are nothing but good teams. (Until the MLB gets wise and puts 16 teams in) Setting records in one-run games and club records in comeback victories means this team isn't going to ever think they are out of a game and are comfortable with the close ones. Sometimes luck helps.
- Andrus could have crumbled after "The Inning" last year. Instead, he had the best year of his career. Odor needs to prove he can do more than make Joey Bats his #####, and I think he will. Beltre and Beltran know this could be their last chance, and I hope they play like it. Jonathan Lecroy and Carlos Gomez (where did that .284/.362/.564 come from?) have been exactly the additions this team has needed, and speaks a lot to the ability to use your farm system to make those additions.
- Hamels/Darvish/Lewis/Hamels/Darvish is probably your rotation for this series, with only the second Hamels start being on short rest. I'll take it.
- Jeff Bannister as my manager? You bet.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Well, there won't be $10 tickets at least. How is it exactly that you can get into the game for $10 today, but it's going to cost $55 to park your car there? http://www.stubhub.com/baseball-tickets/category/29/
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I'm fairly comfortable in saying the Rangers lead the league in DUI's as well. Bush, Jeffress, Choo, I missing anyone?
