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***2016 MLB Playoff thread: Cubs win for first time since sliced bread hit market (1 Viewer)

Eephus said:
I admit I haven't seen much of the Indians this year but they're kind of a fun team.
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Tigers fan living in Cleveland and I lost track how many times I've said it this year, 'this is a really difficult team to root against.'

 
Tom Servo said:
Klubot could go 7 easily if he's on. With the off day Saturday, you could run Miller out there again for 2/3 - 1 inning and Allen.
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I'd be surprised if either are available.  Francona is putting trust in his ace and played every card game 1 knowing he'd have a full deck again game 3.  If Kluber isn't healthy this team isn't winning anything anyway, Tito really has no choice but to trust him.

 
MAC_32 said:
I'd be surprised if either are available.  Francona is putting trust in his ace and played every card game 1 knowing he'd have a full deck again game 3.  If Kluber isn't healthy this team isn't winning anything anyway, Tito really has no choice but to trust him.
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Depends...I can easily see Miller coming in to simply face Papi late in the game if they have the lead.  If there is a save situation in the 9th and Klubs is out, I can see him running out Otero over Allen.

 
Bobcat10 said:
Depends...I can easily see Miller coming in to simply face Papi late in the game if they have the lead.  If there is a save situation in the 9th and Klubs is out, I can see him running out Otero over Allen.
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Good point, hadn't thought about him coming in for only Papi.

 
Red Sox starting the morning off insinuating that the Tribe stole Porcello's signs, and that's the reason for his poor start to the series with the 3 HRs in one inning...

Willis added, “I don’t think it was bad by any means, just the times it happened, they seemed to be ready for it.”

It was like the Indians knew what was coming.

Did they?

At some point during the night, the Red Sox switched up their signs, catcher Sandy Leon later told the Herald.

“His signs are unique to begin with, so we talked about mixing it up,” Willis explained. “Just looking for any advantage we can get or to give them something more to think about, if you will.”

Asked if there was any concern that the Indians had figured out Porcello’s signs, Willis smiled and said, “Yeah, you never know.
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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2016/10/rick_porcello_red_sox_lose_game_1_to_indians

 
Bobcat10 said:
Depends...I can easily see Miller coming in to simply face Papi late in the game if they have the lead.  If there is a save situation in the 9th and Klubs is out, I can see him running out Otero over Allen.
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Wouldn't even surprise me to see Miller go an inning. But, definitely use him against Ortiz if the situation requires it.

 
Tom Servo said:
Yeah, it can't be that he got beat around like a piñata; it has to the Indians stealing signs.  :lmao:

You can count on BoSux fans to bring the whining when things don't go their way. :lmao: :lmao:  
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Tom, not sure if you realize but Willis isn't a fan, he's the pitching coach.  And Sandy Leon is the catcher

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Yeah, I didn't think so at first look, but he did.
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Thought the same but it was a good call..it was not even close.

Amazing at how few strikes Allen actually threw last night.  Don`t have the stats but it out of 40 pitches seemed like only 10 or so were actual strikes. Sox were chasing way out of the zone.

 
Nats NLDS Roster

I'm pretty surprised they went with a 7 man bullpen and an extra bat. Two of the four starters are likely to be out of the game after 5 innings- Joe Ross is still building up after missing a long stretch and hasn't gone past 4 innings yet, and Gio Gonzalez is Gio Gonzalez.

Based on this I wouldn't be surprised if they're planning to have Gio start Game 2 so there's two days between his start and Ross's possible Game 4 start.

 
wilked said:
Tom, not sure if you realize but Willis isn't a fan, he's the pitching coach.  And Sandy Leon is the catcher
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Former Indians pitching coach to boot.

Tom might be saying there were fan rumblings in Twitter last night, I have heard that too. 

Verlander and Salty ran thru multiple signs with no runners on base in their last outing at Prog. 

Basically sounds like Willis trying to keep his potential Cy's chin up after getting pounded. 

 
TobiasFunke said:
Nats NLDS Roster

I'm pretty surprised they went with a 7 man bullpen and an extra bat. Two of the four starters are likely to be out of the game after 5 innings- Joe Ross is still building up after missing a long stretch and hasn't gone past 4 innings yet, and Gio Gonzalez is Gio Gonzalez.

Based on this I wouldn't be surprised if they're planning to have Gio start Game 2 so there's two days between his start and Ross's possible Game 4 start.
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Nope. Roark Game 2, Gonzalez Game 3.  I don't get it and as far as I can tell neither does anyone else on Nats twitter.

 
Peak said:
Red Sox starting the morning off insinuating that the Tribe stole Porcello's signs, and that's the reason for his poor start to the series with the 3 HRs in one inning...

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2016/10/rick_porcello_red_sox_lose_game_1_to_indians
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I guess the Sox didn't notice that Ricky was up in the zone the first time through the order.  He still was the second time through and the Indians took advantage.  This just in, sinker ball pitchers whose pitches aren't sinking get hit.  Hard.

 
MAC_32 said:
I guess the Sox didn't notice that Ricky was up in the zone the first time through the order.  He still was the second time through and the Indians took advantage.  This just in, sinker ball pitchers whose pitches aren't sinking get hit.  Hard.
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I don't believe any of the HRs were off the sinker.

 
Bobcat10 said:
Former Indians pitching coach to boot.

Tom might be saying there were fan rumblings in Twitter last night, I have heard that too. 

Verlander and Salty ran thru multiple signs with no runners on base in their last outing at Prog. 

Basically sounds like Willis trying to keep his potential Cy's chin up after getting pounded. 
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Yes, I was referring to fan rumblings, but the pitching coach and the catcher going there is just as funny.

Be a man and take the L unless you have absolute proof they're stealing signs. That's just bush league.

 
With so many days off, it doesn't bother me if Dusty wants to run lean in the pen.  We need bad Kershaw though.  Extra innings tonight could be a killer.

 
JZilla said:
With so many days off, it doesn't bother me if Dusty wants to run lean in the pen.  We need bad Kershaw though.  Extra innings tonight could be a killer.
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No days off in between Games 3 and 4 though, and he's starting the two guys you can't reasonably expect to make it past 5 innings in those games.

It's not a tragedy of course, just seems less than optimal and easily fixable by swapping Gio and Roark starts. I assume maybe he wants to use Roark out of the pen in a possible Game 5, but that's not really Tanner's forte.

Of course it is Dusty, the anti-Matt Williams. Every eyebrow-raising thing he does seems to pan out.

 
Thorn said:
Everyone should be held to their fan base's twitter reactions.  This is well established.
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From the twitter of Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald:

RIck Porcello hasn't had bad command all year. Were the Indians stealing signs? Was he too amped? Confusion lingers:
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Notice how the FIRST thing he went to was the Indians stealing signs. It couldn't possibly be that the 94-win Indians played a better game. :rolleyes:

 
Tom Servo said:
From the twitter of Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald:

Notice how the FIRST thing he went to was the Indians stealing signs. It couldn't possibly be that the 94-win Indians played a better game. :rolleyes:
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HOT TAKE ALERT!

Couldn't possibly have been leaving change ups up and over the plate, swinging at balls in the dirt, or running into an out at home from first on a ball that didn't get past an outfielder.  Good Christ.

 
Thorn said:
HOT TAKE ALERT!

Couldn't possibly have been leaving change ups up and over the plate, swinging at balls in the dirt, or running into an out at home from first on a ball that didn't get past an outfielder.  Good Christ.
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Sounds like you should take this up with Jason Mastrodonato.  Probably toolbag Shaugnessy, or whatever his name is, too if he's leading the parade.  

 
Tom Servo said:
From the twitter of Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald:

Notice how the FIRST thing he went to was the Indians stealing signs. It couldn't possibly be that the 94-win Indians played a better game. :rolleyes:
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You might be a little overly sensitive here.  As bobcat? noted, pitching coach is just putting an excuse out there to deflect from his pitcher (should he have said Porcello sucked instead?).  Who cares what Jason Mastrawhtever says...  I read a bunch of stuff about the game / forums, and this is the only place I read about this sign stealing thing.  It is not widespread or rampant.  Everything I read says key Sox hitters came up small (Bogaerts / Bradley Jr / Betts in particular looking lost), Porcello came up small, Tito played it like a Game 7 World Series and put his foot on the Sox' throat, and generally the Indians did the 'small things' (extra bases, relays, etc) better than the Sox.

Did I miss anything?

 
wilked said:
You might be a little overly sensitive here.  As bobcat? noted, pitching coach is just putting an excuse out there to deflect from his pitcher (should he have said Porcello sucked instead?).  Who cares what Jason Mastrawhtever says...  I read a bunch of stuff about the game / forums, and this is the only place I read about this sign stealing thing.  It is not widespread or rampant.  Everything I read says key Sox hitters came up small (Bogaerts / Bradley Jr / Betts in particular looking lost), Porcello came up small, Tito played it like a Game 7 World Series and put his foot on the Sox' throat, and generally the Indians did the 'small things' (extra bases, relays, etc) better than the Sox.

Did I miss anything?
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Nope, I think you covered it. :D

JM got crucified by #IndiansTwitter after he mocked Tribe fans for cheering an Ortiz pop-out.

 
wilked said:
You might be a little overly sensitive here.  As bobcat? noted, pitching coach is just putting an excuse out there to deflect from his pitcher (should he have said Porcello sucked instead?).  Who cares what Jason Mastrawhtever says...  I read a bunch of stuff about the game / forums, and this is the only place I read about this sign stealing thing.  It is not widespread or rampant.  Everything I read says key Sox hitters came up small (Bogaerts / Bradley Jr / Betts in particular looking lost), Porcello came up small, Tito played it like a Game 7 World Series and put his foot on the Sox' throat, and generally the Indians did the 'small things' (extra bases, relays, etc) better than the Sox.

Did I miss anything?
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No.

 
LOL second pitch of the playoffs nowhere near a strike that Pillar has jumped on. He has zero plate discipline and it's somehow starting to work for him.

 
:lmao:  

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