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***2016 MLB Playoff thread: Cubs win for first time since sliced bread hit market (1 Viewer)

pantagrapher said:
OK, never mind. Cubbie Bear is charging $100 cover. Hearing other places are doing the same. Nisei, which is usually a bit off the radar, has been a ####show. Lines out the door everywhere. Might be going with Plan B.
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He's probably better off staying by his hotel.  If the primary goal is watching the game and drinking beer around a bunch of Cubs fans, any bar will do.

 
Yeah I can imagine wrigleyville being a nightmare unless you're willing to get there EARLY and camp out all day. 

 
TobiasFunke said:
Other sports leagues use schedule and disregard the fact that schedules aren't balanced.  For example in the NBA a 62 win Eastern Conference team would have home court over a 61 win Western Conference team even though the West team was likely the better regular season team after adjusting for SOS.  And baseball does it in the AL and NL playoffs, too.  Indians certainly didn't deserve home field in the ALDS over the Red Sox based on regular season record + SOS, but they got it.

This is one of those "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" situations. Even if the wrong team gets home field 10% or even 20% of the time based on record because it doesn't adjust for SOS, that's still way better than alternating or using the ASG, which give the wrong team home field 50% of the time.
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They got HFA because they were a game and a half better than the Sox. :coffee:  

 
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I don't know why, but the more I read about this kind of stuff (Lester holds epic party w Vedder after NLCS win) the more I begin to wonder if the Cubs are getting a little cocky and might not be ready for the Indians, how are a damn good team in their own right. 

How big of a neck-breaker would it be for this team with all this preseasonhype... approaching 2:1 favorites in the WS.... best team in baseball all year.... getting to the WS and :PLOP: they drop a stinker and choke yet again. 

Disclaimer: I am rooting for the Cubs because of former Sox guys like Theo and Lester, and because I have some die hard cubs buddies who I've loved watching go on this ride. It reminds me of the ride I got to go on in 2004 with the Red Sox. I also love Maddon and guys like Hoyer.  I'd love to see them win... it just feels like it's lining up for another collapse somehow. 
 
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The 1954 Indians won 111 games and got swept by the Giants in the WS. I can happen regardless.

 
[icon] said:
Yeah I can imagine wrigleyville being a nightmare unless you're willing to get there EARLY and camp out all day. 
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FWIW, Murphy's Bleachers has promised no cover charge and no reserved tables. Said they expect line to get in to start forming around noon (line to get in started at 2 for previous game).

 
Doctor Detroit said:
WHAT'S UP WITH THAT LOGIC????????? Seems like dumb logic, your logic sucks.  /Tobias

Ross plays game 1 because he's Lester's catcher, but in game 2 and 6/7 you get Schwarber AND Contreras.  Also Schwarber's is the all-time Cubs post-season HR champ and his minor league numbers crush Contreas'.  If both players are healthy I'd take Schwarber 150 times out of 100, and 400 out of 100 over Ross.  You do the math, Schwarber is goooooooood. 
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Giving this a "like" not because I like it but because Dr D deserves some love for the new thread title.  Inspired :thumbup:

 
pantagrapher said:
OK, never mind. Cubbie Bear is charging $100 cover. Hearing other places are doing the same. Nisei, which is usually a bit off the radar, has been a ####show. Lines out the door everywhere. Might be going with Plan B.
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Juxtatarot said:
He's probably better off staying by his hotel.  If the primary goal is watching the game and drinking beer around a bunch of Cubs fans, any bar will do.
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[icon] said:
Yeah I can imagine wrigleyville being a nightmare unless you're willing to get there EARLY and camp out all day. 
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There is going to be more people outside Wrigley than inside.  Going to be crazy.  I have in-laws from Dubuque, IA that are going to go over.

 
Love schwarbs being on roster, but not starting at dh. I thought for pure brilliant rescue strategy in dire need schwarber made sense. 

Can you imagine the momentum swing if cubs were down 3-0 in series and losing in game 4 and schwarbs came in to pinch hit and got a homer at wrigley? A deflated team and crowd would instantly be back to life. 

I guess he could still do well at dh, but just seems like more risk than reward right now. 

 
Having watched too much of the Indians I will say they are like an efficient department store. They do everything well and they do it together for nine innings. Cubs are better position to position but as a whole I think the Indians are as good. Plus into late October in cities on the Great Lakes the Cubs hitting advantage could be mitigated by the north wind. Cubs should win this series but I think Vegas and the public are selling the Tribe short. 

 
Like I think this Indians team is better than either of the Royals WS teams. Especially if they can get some innings out of Salazar. 

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Having watched too much of the Indians I will say they are like an efficient department store. They do everything well and they do it together for nine innings. Cubs are better position to position but as a whole I think the Indians are as good. Plus into late October in cities on the Great Lakes the Cubs hitting advantage could be mitigated by the north wind. Cubs should win this series but I think Vegas and the public are selling the Tribe short. 
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The true series price should be closer to Cubs -160.  Vegas had to set it much higher thanks to the exposure they have on Cubs futures.  They could get buried on them, so they are trying to get any Cleveland money.

 
FairWarning said:
The true series price should be closer to Cubs -160.  Vegas had to set it much higher thanks to the exposure they have on Cubs futures.  They could get buried on them, so they are trying to get any Cleveland money.
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There are several objective statistical analyses that have it pretty close to the Vegas odds, though. Zips has it at 64.5/35.5.  538 has it 63/37. Not sure exactly what that translates to, but with the vig added on I'd guess close to  -200, no?

 
TobiasFunke said:
There are several objective statistical analyses that have it pretty close to the Vegas odds, though. Zips has it at 64.5/35.5.  538 has it 63/37. Not sure exactly what that translates to, but with the vig added on I'd guess close to  -200, no?
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My book opened up Chicago -170, rose to -210 yesterday.  

 
TobiasFunke said:
There are several objective statistical analyses that have it pretty close to the Vegas odds, though. Zips has it at 64.5/35.5.  538 has it 63/37. Not sure exactly what that translates to, but with the vig added on I'd guess close to  -200, no?
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CLEVELAND AGAINST THE WORLD ONE MORE TIME!!!

 
Jon Roegele ‏@MLBPlayerAnalys 13m13 minutes ago

Tonight's HP ump Larry Vanover has one of the smallest zones in MLB, and rated below average as far as his calls matching the typical zone.
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:excited:

 
James Daulton said:
Just remembered I'll be in Chicago Wed - Fri this week.  I love to watch championship games with local fans.  Any recommendations where to watch or will all the bars be the same basically?  I'll be staying on the MM.  Going to grab myself a cubs shirt or jersey when I get into town.
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Marmol?

 
James Daulton said:
I can't even leave for the place until 5 or so.  Just try to find someplace around the MM?
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Harry Carey's has to be as good as anything around there. Howell and Hood (ground floor of Tribune Tower) usually has a great beer list, not sure how good it will be for viewing game though. 

 
I'm surprised in Chicago there's no huge outdoor party anywhere.  With a giant screen and tons of people.  If anyone hears of one post ITT please.

 
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This is really getting crazy.  I'm not sure what time to leave our downtown hotel to go to Wrigley, but I can't leave until at least 3:30 on Friday.  It's going to be a nightmare just getting there.

 
gump said:
This is really getting crazy.  I'm not sure what time to leave our downtown hotel to go to Wrigley, but I can't leave until at least 3:30 on Friday.  It's going to be a nightmare just getting there.
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If the red line is nuts—and I suspect it will be—one alternative route is to take the brown line to either Belmont or Southport and walk the rest of the way (less than a mile).

 
pantagrapher said:
If the red line is nuts—and I suspect it will be—one alternative route is to take the brown line to either Belmont or Southport and walk the rest of the way (less than a mile).
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Appreciate it pant...great to know!  I think our strategy will be to get to the stadium/Capt Morgans as quickly as possible.  We'll be paying $12 for beer, but it's better than fighting 100K+ people without tickets.

 
I'm more jacked for this series than any in a long time, the match up is freaking straight out of Hollywood.  I have to imagine the games are going to be super intense and the ratings are going to be through the roof.  

 
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