Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
That is exactly what I was wondering about this morning. But we should also appreciate GB SSND for all of his work putting the details together.
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2017 Streaming Defenses (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
#preachingtothechoir
Amen, hence my follow up (you & I cross posted same time)
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I like being shown when I'm wrong, I need to update that chart anyway.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
relative to the home/road thing, I was wondering earlier if you track those defensive stats game by game and have that detail available?
Trade deadline is coming up and I'm trying to target a defense for Week 15/16. I know it's difficult to project how things are going to go, but are the Panthers the best play for those weeks? They get GB (assuming no Rodgers) and TB at home. Guy in last place in our league has him and I'm considering making a trade. Currently rolling with the Seahawks but they don't instill a lot of confidence.
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Picked up Carolina they were dropped for the bye.
Week 14-16 they are home and I believe it's: Vikings, Packers, Bucs
I'm assuming Rodgers won't be back until Week 16.
Week 14-16 they are home and I believe it's: Vikings, Packers, Bucs
I'm assuming Rodgers won't be back until Week 16.
davewwright
Footballguy
It's a trap game for NE. Long trip home, short week with Thanksgiving and family obligations, everyone targets the champs
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I have no way of doing this sadly. Well I do but it would be really tedious, even for me.
Steeler
Footballguy
Just picked up CAR D this week and plan to keep them ROS. Also traded for Cam earlier in this year so I'll be rooting for the Panthers in weeks 14, 15, 16.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
PHI is available for me to pair with PIT. That NE matchup coming up in week 15 for the Steelers is a no-go but no sense worrying about it until I know if I'm in or out of the playoffs.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
We are a weird scoring D league.
We get 5 points for under 100 rushing yards, 5 for under 150 passing (rarely happens) and then 1 point per INT and 1 pt per sack, FR. and 6 per TD's and 1pt per 15 yards of FR,INT yards.
The Panthers look like they have been stopping the run. No TD's yet which hopefully come Week 14-16.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I also took the individual game scores from one of my ESPN leagues and compared each team's home vs. road performance. 20 out of 32 have scored better on average at home than away, though in total, home defenses have only scored .19 ppg more than road defenses.
Jags do skew any analysis for this year, though.
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Rode the Saints for a number of weeks. Traded for Philly this week to help with playoff run. Saints dropped.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Benched them for Ravens.
Haven’t seen any football today but apparently Keenan went off so NBD hopefully. My opponent outbid me by $2 for Murray, guess he had another solid game. I have Perine v. Engram & Eli tonight.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Signing the Chargers 2 weeks ago was the best move I've made all year. That's both a good thing and a sad thing.
Have Chargers reached must-start status yet? Three straight weeks in double digits. Obviously you have to use them next week vs Cleveland, but after that they get WAS, @KC, @NYJ. Chiefs are a bad match-up, although they've clearly fallen off from their early-season high. Other two are middling according to the numbers, but those are the kind of match-ups where you elevate a D that's performing as well as LA is.
Currently have CIN/LAR. Was planning on Cinci @CLE this week, LAR @ ARI next week, CIN vs CHI, and then figure something out for Weeks 15/16. Now thinking if I can get LAC, I could pair them with Rams ROS:
Week 13: LAC @ CLE, LAR @ ARI
Week 14: LAC vs WAS, LAR vs PHI
Week 15: LAC @ KC, LAR @ SEA
Week 16: LAC @ NYJ, LAR @ TENN (could go either way, probably Chargers)
Currently have CIN/LAR. Was planning on Cinci @CLE this week, LAR @ ARI next week, CIN vs CHI, and then figure something out for Weeks 15/16. Now thinking if I can get LAC, I could pair them with Rams ROS:
Week 13: LAC @ CLE, LAR @ ARI
Week 14: LAC vs WAS, LAR vs PHI
Week 15: LAC @ KC, LAR @ SEA
Week 16: LAC @ NYJ, LAR @ TENN (could go either way, probably Chargers)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The trend is your friend (until it ends.)
Have them paired with the Ravens so I’ll be starting LAC for the FF Finale & First Round. If I advance I’ll be rolling with BAL @ CLE (1st in FFPA to DST) and V IND (2nd.)
Yeah, was able to get Ravens in another league and I'm psyched to have them for the last two weeks.
I guess this goes to what I was discussing in an earlier post: If you just look at the pure numbers, Cinci vs Chicago is a better matchup than LAC vs Washington. But the question is, at what point do you ignore match-ups and go with the momentum play? As you correctly note, trends hold until the moment they stop, and Chargers have certainly gotten lucky the past couple weeks with Peterman and the Dallas Dysfunctionals. So it's ultimately a gut call: Do you take the safer "by the numbers" choice (in this case, Cinci vs Chicago) or try to keep riding the wave? The way LA is playing, and the fact that they have some bona fide stars on that D, makes me feel like I want a piece of that action.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
In the @ CLE matchup WK 2, they put up 13.50 in our league (we have a lot of low volume cats for DST.) CIN has zero elite (20+) games & only two good (15+).
To me they’re not like the Titans earlier in the year; rarely deliver in great matchups. They’re a decent IRL defense (better than TEN) so at least the floor should be decent.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
PHI rolling up the offense = def getting opportunities late in the game. Any early picks, sacks, fumbles, or nuggets would be nice too!
I like defensive teams who have a better chance to be up late in the game. Who fits that bill this week?
CIN at home
PHI at home
NE at home
KC at home - what's up with BUF?
ATL at home
PIT at home on SNF should feast
I like defensive teams who have a better chance to be up late in the game. Who fits that bill this week?
CIN at home
PHI at home
NE at home
KC at home - what's up with BUF?
ATL at home
PIT at home on SNF should feast
TheBaylorKid
Footballguy
Anyone looking at the giants for the next two weeks?
at Oakland will Crabtree be suspended a game for fighting? Assuming cooper’s status could be in question
verses dallas My cowboys are circling the drain
at Oakland will Crabtree be suspended a game for fighting? Assuming cooper’s status could be in question
verses dallas My cowboys are circling the drain
packersfan
Footballguy
IheartGuinness
Footballguy
San Diego? Er...you know what I mean.
Nevermind. I see they were mentioned earlier.
Anyone still have faith in New Orleans? They were trucking along for a while but have stumbled a bit.
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
DET ROS plan is officially shot. Maybe it was shot a week or even two ago, but man are they looking undependable right now in any matchup.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
cincinatti took an absolute dump.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Def/st scoring varies alot by league, but I wouldn't say they took a dump. Scored 18 in mine, about average
Had a td called back , that sucked
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
For the same reason I though Mariota would be gold for these cake match-ups down the stretch, where that hasn't exactly panned out, I am similarly wary of the TEN D for the same reason. TEN shows a lot of promise, but zero consistency.
I want to believe, but are they truly a dependable defensive unit to roll out?
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
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Peak
Footballguy
I have Morris and Dak on my team, and after their performances the last two weeks I'm benching them vs Wash. Wash Def may not be a bad pickup.
Love Rams for this week and am starting them in one league (Chargers in the other). As for ROS, they're so-so. Can't start them vs. Philly, obviously. Seattle could be a bad matchup, but they always play them tough, so if you don't have any other great options they might be OK. Tennessee isn't super scary, although I could see them pounding Murray and Henry against LA's suspect run D.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Need to decide on a Week 14 team.
I have Carolina and KC but not liking either.
Carolina at home vs Minn
KC at home vs Oakland (likely without Cooper and Crabtree again)
14. GB @ Cleveland
14. Chargers vs. Wash
14. Titans @ Arizona
14. Pats @ Dolphins
14. Lions @ TB
I have Carolina and KC but not liking either.
Carolina at home vs Minn
KC at home vs Oakland (likely without Cooper and Crabtree again)
14. GB @ Cleveland
14. Chargers vs. Wash
14. Titans @ Arizona
14. Pats @ Dolphins
14. Lions @ TB
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Cousins is a very good QB when the pocket is clean, and like most QBs in the 6-15 range, not so much when facing heat.
3 weeks old but good analysis here. Go with the Chargers, who have the hottest defense over the last 7 weeks. Great pass rush has led to 12 picks in the last 6 games.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
New England has been picking up some steam.
@Buff and then @Miami next week. Get Buff at home in the FF championship.
I will roll them out the next two weeks and search for a week 15 option for @Pitt.
@Buff and then @Miami next week. Get Buff at home in the FF championship.
I will roll them out the next two weeks and search for a week 15 option for @Pitt.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I have a hard time finding DST with my scoring. PA's don't matter unless it's a shutout.
I get 5 points for holding a team under 100 rushing, 5 more if under 150 passing (rarely happens) and then 1 pt per sack, 1pt per int, 1pt per FR and 1pt per 15 FR/INT yards.
I think they'll get to Cousins, but will they stop the run?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Since I'll probably be starting Perine, gonna go with nope. Football Outsiders ranks their D-line 26th versus the run, mostly due to being 29th in stopping the run at the 2nd level and 31st in the open field. So, probably fair to say they give up chunk plays on the ground.
For anyone who cares (no one), we give points for TFL (0.25) - Chargers are second in the NFL behind the Stillers. We also have range scale similar to points allowed for yardage, 4th down stops, 3 and outs forced - Chargers are middle of the pack in those. Third in INT and 3 return TDs (variable) cover a multitude of sins. 5 of their last 6 they held their opponent under 20 (Bills blowout was the exception.) Overall I think it's a good unit.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Great Thank You. I think I'll put in a claim for them. Playing Cleveland this week doesn't help my chances as it'll be my second claim I'm making. I'll likely be back here tomorrow trying to figure out a Week 14 stream.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yeah, in most leagues everyone jumps on the CLE opponent. With BAL playing DET this week and @PIT next, I was looking to pair someone with them for awhile. Had CIN, CHI - don't think I started either - and finally landed LAC 3-4 weeks ago when someone dropped them during their bye. They've been a pinball machine since.
Curious: Has their run D improved at all during their recent hot stretch? I know McCoy put up big yardage on them even as they were destroying Nathan Peterman's soul.
I feel like they're playing well enough to make them startable even in marginal match-ups like Washington/KC.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
On the year the LAC have given up the 4th most points to RB in full PPR; 6th most over the last 3 games, 2nd most over the last 5. But those parsed totals include a 56 yard fake punt TD by JAX Corey Grant, and NE RBs combined for 14-163 on receptions. WAS doesn't have that kind of back with CT out. The first 5-6 weeks every RB gashed them running the ball, but they have gotten a little better.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Is Houston D worth holding onto at this point? (I also have Detroit)
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
Week 14 at home vs. SF is appealing but after coming up poorly last night against a bad offense (on the road but still Baltimore's offense is not good) I'd be less excited about them moving forward. Lions are at Tampa Bay Week 14 and assuming Winston's back I'd probably give the Texans a slight edge as we sit here today.
