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2018 MLB Regular Season Thread! Current thread batting average: .420 (1 Viewer)

Doctor Detroit said:
Well at least you got to enjoy the White Sox who have a team full of guys who don't walk, don't hit for average, and have no power.  The future is bright!!!!!!
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Because the product on the field this weekend was indicative of future of the White Sox?

That's a rather interesting observation. Are there any other baseball hot takes that you'd like to bestow upon us?

 
Limp Ditka said:
Because the product on the field this weekend was indicative of future of the White Sox?

That's a rather interesting observation. Are there any other baseball hot takes that you'd like to bestow upon us?
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I'm pretty sure he likes the WS about as much as me.

 
Entire community decimated by a natural disaster, then to add insult to injury, shipped out to play 'home' games at the Trop.

Have to feel for the Astros......

 
Limp Ditka said:
Entire community decimated by a natural disaster, then to add insult to injury, shipped out to play 'home' games at the Trop.

Have to feel for the Astros......
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They asked the rangers to switch home series (they play again at the end of September) and the rangers declined. Oof

 
Interesting opinion on the Rangers/Astros situation from Joe Sheehan:

As you’ve probably heard by now, the Rangers/Astros series originally scheduled to be played at Minute Maid Park this week has been moved to Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg due to the flooding in Houston. This isn’t all that rare an occurrence; every few years, a series ends up being relocated due to one incident or another.

Back in 2015, civil unrest in Baltimore caused the Orioles and Rays to play a series scheduled for Camden Yards at Tropicana Field. The Orioles were the “home” team -- batted last and everything -- but the games were played at The Trop and were not “exchanged” for later home dates. Back in 2008, the Astros played a late-season series with the Cubs at Miller Park, due to Hurricane Ike’s effects on Houston. The year before that, the Indians and Angels dodged a snowstorm in Cleveland by playing up in Milwaukee as well.

This particular bit of rescheduling seems obvious. While the ballpark in Houston is unscathed, the city itself is underwater. Traveling in and around it is challenging at best, and the city has no business assigning public-safety officers to a ballgame this week. Given the Orioles/Rays series as a recent example of a team sacrificing home games, and other examples of teams moving weather-challenged series to neutral sites with domes, playing these games in St. Pete shouldn’t have raised eyebrows.

Enter Reid Ryan. Ryan, the Astros president, posted a version of events that threw the Rangers under the bus. “We went to the Rangers and said hey let’s switch series. ... They rejected that and didn’t want to do that. The Rangers wanted us to play the next 3 days at their place, but they did not want to trade series with us.”

That’s all factually correct, but it leaves out a fairly important point: changing home dates on one day’s notice, and changing home dates on four weeks’ notice, are not equivalent burdens.

Let’s work the problem. Start with this: all of what follows is in the framework of baseball and the concerns of these teams. I am well aware that there is a bigger picture, but presumably Reid Ryan was as well when he threw his tantrum. Let’s concede that these three games were going to be played, and they were absolutely not going to be played in Houston this week. That left three options.

Swap Home Series

This is one of those solutions that seems fair on the surface, but falls apart when you look at it just a little more closely. The Astros are scheduled to go to Arlington for three games September 25-27, during the season’s final week. Ryan, and presumably other members of the Astros’ braintrust, wanted to switch the two series, play at Arlington this week and have the Rangers come to Houston next month. 

The biggest problem with that is it takes the burden of the rescheduling and lays it entirely at the feet of Rangers ticket holders. Forget the logistics; the Rangers were prepared to host three baseball games this week, just as the staff at The Trop will. Their fans, however, would have had their September tickets turned into August ones on a day’s notice. Some may have been able to attend in any case, but no doubt many not only would not have, they also would not have been able to move their tickets on the secondary market. (As a practical matter, it would have fallen to the Rangers to refund or exchange the tickets of fans unable to make the earlier game dates.) 

This move would have benefited those with tickets to this week’s contests -- now rescheduled with plenty of notice -- and the Astros themselves, who would not lose three home dates. In the discussion, there’s some elision between “Houston” and “the Astros.” The vast majority of Astros fans are unaffected and would be unaffected by wherever the game was to be played: they’ll be watching on television or following on the radio. 

This would not have been an equal swap. It would have merely shifted the burdens and the costs from the Astros to the Rangers, from Astros ticket holders to Rangers ticket holders.

Play At Arlington

Once a series swap wasn’t in play, this was the most obvious solution. Per multiple reports, the Rangers were willing to host the games in the manner the Rays hosted the Orioles -- treating the visitors as the home team -- while giving the Astros all the revenue. This would have certainly generated more money for the Astros than moving the series to Florida will, and by Thursday could well have become an event that Texans could rally around, raising money for hurricane victims as the state’s two teams squared off in a pennant race.

The Astros were unwilling to do this. Ryan cited “the integrity of the schedule,” which is a nice turn of phrase that apparently also includes “asking the Rangers to extend a long road trip by three games down the stretch” under its umbrella. It’s not as if these games are critical to the Astros, who have a 13-game lead in the AL West and entered the night with a six-game lead over the Red Sox for the #1 seed in the American League. They would even keep the single most important part of home-field advantage, batting last. Despite all of these concessions, the Astros -- who had to know they would be losing the three home games under any circumstance -- demurred.

Play At Tropicana Field

It’s hard to see choosing Tropicana Field over Globe Life Stadium as anything other than spiteful.  On short notice, more money would have been made in Arlington than will be made in St. Pete. I guess there’s always the possibility of curious looky-loos drawn to a spectacle, but this market doesn’t show up for its own successful team, I doubt it’s going to knock down the doors for two visitors passing through.

This was the worst of all possible options, maximizing inconvenience for everyone while minimizing revenue and passing up an opportunity to galvanize the state. It’s a shame the Astros felt the need to end up here. I understand being frustrated over not getting the series swap you wanted, but with that off the table, choose the next-best option. Don’t run off to Florida and cite “the integrity of the schedule.”

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I recognize that emotions are high, but to me, the Rangers didn’t do anything wrong here. There was a hurricane in Houston in August that rendered the city unable to host baseball games. That the solution to that should have fallen on Rangers fans holding tickets to September games strikes me as random. The Rangers offered their stadium and the money they’d make opening it for three days; what they weren’t willing to do was stiff their own fans by changing the schedule on short notice. The Astros, or at least Reid Ryan, seem to think Rangers fans should have carried that weight. I can’t say I see the argument. 

This isn’t about the thousands of Houstonians suffering tonight, fearful, lost, shocked. This is about two businesses having a fight, each protecting their self-interest. The city of Houston isn’t being ravaged by Jon Daniels. Adrian Beltre isn’t traipsing through H-Town gleefully tearing open sandbags. This is a dispute between spectacularly rich business entities. Let’s not create gods and monsters of them.

There is no right and wrong here, and looking for it -- stirring up animus to win a public-relations war -- is the only immorality I see. 
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Saints won it the year of Katrina.

Sox won it the year of the marathon bombing.

Is this the year for the Stros?

 
Limp Ditka said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Well at least you got to enjoy the White Sox who have a team full of guys who don't walk, don't hit for average, and have no power.  The future is bright!!!!!!
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Because the product on the field this weekend was indicative of future of the White Sox?

That's a rather interesting observation. Are there any other baseball hot takes that you'd like to bestow upon us?
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Yes, it is.  Being one of the least observant baseball people ever, I'm guessing you missed this.  Their minor league system is not flush with hitting, the crap you have now is going to cling to the sides of that toilet of a park you have for years.  glllllllllllllllllllll

 
Let's see....

Moncada on the DL, so not on the field this weekend. He just happens to be BA's #1 prospect

Eloy Jiminez - BA's #5 prospect

Luis Robert - #45

Want to guess how many Tigers I've seen on the list so far?

that's right, kids! Ze-#######-Ro. And this clown wants to talk smack about the future of other teams 
I'll take their opinion over Detroit Tiger 'I don't know which McCann is on my team' Superfan #1

 
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Limp Ditka said:
Let's see....

Mondada on the DL, so not on the field this weekend. He just happens to be BA's #1 prospect

Eloy Jiminez - BA's #5 prospect

Luis Robert - #45

Want to guess how many Tigers I've seen on the list so far?

that's right, kids! Ze-#######-Ro. And this clown wants to talk smack about the future of other teams 
I'll take their opinion over Detroit Tiger 'I don't know which McCann is on my team' Superfan #1
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No your opinion is terrible, you're really a sad person who spends every waking moment hoping I'll respond to your nonsense.  So here is the last time I'll address you:

Put Moncada and Jimenez in the field with the crap you have now, probably the worst lineup in baseball, and you get crap out on the other end.  And there is no guarantee with either Moncada or Jimenez.  Jimenez probably is a all-star caliber player, we'll see on Moncada.  He's gonna be paired with Tim Anderson and his .270 OBP, all those Garcias who are terrible, and Tyler Saladino.  Better hope those pitching prospects come through or it might be a long century.  :lmao:

 
Prospects aren't guaranteed? Damn! Wish I knew before I posted that. Just further evidence as to why we should all rely on you for our baseball knowledge. 

Outside of Anderson, they have no long term plans for anyone you just mentioned. Maybe Avi, but they have 2 years of control to figure that out. Everyone else you mention, there's no investment there. Not big dollars, not high draft picks. But hey! way to rattle off some names, and sling in an insult or two, in an effort to sound knowledgable. :thumbup:  I'm sure someone will buy it.

I mean you're going to drop the name Tyler Saladino on me in this? That's a bullet in your chamber? The guy's 28 and has only played part time and out of necessity.  He is not part of this bleak White Sox future you're envisioning.

Go ahead and mock this, which you predictably will, but I'm not sure what happened to you. Maybe it's the Trump presidency, maybe something IRL, but its painful to read your posts. While I can most certainly be bitter, cynical and sarcastic, your posts over the last few months are dripping with hatred and anger. And it's not just your interactions with me that gives off this impression, it's pretty much SOP across the board with you right now. 

Might be time for a break.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Maybe it's the Trump presidency, maybe something IRL, but its painful to read your posts. While I can most certainly be bitter, cynical and sarcastic, your posts over the last few months are dripping with hatred and anger. And it's not just your interactions with me that gives off this impression, it's pretty much SOP across the board with you right now. 

Might be time for a break.
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I have ignored you for a month now and I can cite ten posts at least where you are trolling me for a response.

:lmao: You are the one that needs a break, I've barely posted the last two months.  Stop ####### drinking maybe?  Good lord. 

 
You've chosen to ignore content by Limp Ditka.

Welcome to the elite tier with Walton Goggins, not even Squisition got the ignore from me.  :bye:

See ya! 

 
Buxton's getting his hamate bone checked out. It's been enjoyable watching him appear to be figuring it out over the last couple of weeks. It would be a shame to see that derailed .

 
Anyone have predictions as to award winners?

Cy Young seems pretty easy. Sale and Scherzer should both be unanimous.

MVP. Altuve and Goldy.

Rookie. Judge and Bellinger

 
Good Posting Judge said:
 Good trade for both sides, given that I think Upton's almost certainly opting out and Upton could tip the Halos into a wild-card spot.
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Every off season is different, but the market for power hitting corner outfielders last year doesn't scream "I'm going to risk the 4/$90 I'm guaranteed and test the waters"

 
Darkhorse AL MVP Candidate: Jonathan Schoop

If the O's somehow are able to sneak into the playoffs, I think Schoop deserves a ton of consideration. .306/.354/.542, 30HRs and 100 RBIs.

 
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