That was essentially my tie-breaker fwiw. It was originally a factor for me but I had him dead even with two other options.Two of the last 3 picks, Ali and Owens, are interesting to me because both guys who picked them noted sociological issues in addition to pure sports accomplishment. Not saying that’s wrong, but it’s interesting.
Yes indeed.I assume all the positions and categories are considered equal here? Judges won't be weighting one position higher than another? Having the greatest assistant waterboy is equivalent to having the greatest head coach?
Yep. Secretariat was in my group of three that I had dead even.1.11 - Greatest Horse - Secretariat
Zero argument
They were no slouches in their respective sports either. Sure all of Owens records have been broken but in 80 years, he will still be in history books, not so sure about many other track athletes. Also if he had access to creatine, modern training, etc. he’s probably as good as any modern track athlete. His level of natural speed and explosiveness is legendary.Two of the last 3 picks, Ali and Owens, are interesting to me because both guys who picked them noted sociological issues in addition to pure sports accomplishment. Not saying that’s wrong, but it’s interesting.
I thought about this too. I assume off the board...Question ... Would it be legal to select Bo Jackson in the Best RB category? Or is he off the board now that he has been selected?
Based on how previous drafts have gone he isn't eligible for any other spots.I thought about this too. I assume off the board...
Easy 1st round pick imo.1.11 - Greatest Horse - Secretariat
Zero argument
Clear ... Thanks!Based on how previous drafts have gone he isn't eligible for any other spots.
Yes, but same VBD methodology used in FF applies. Clear GoaTs and thin categories should be valued more in creating your draft strategy. Punt to later rounds categories that are muddled or very deep.I assume all the positions and categories are considered equal here? Judges won't be weighting one position higher than another? Having the greatest assistant waterboy is equivalent to having the greatest head coach?
and spoke the truest words ever spoke, "Happiness begins where selfishness ends"otb_lifer said:1.07 John Wooden - Category 34 - Greatest Men's College Basketball Coach
unprecedented winning credentials, greatest we'll ever see - absolutely remarkable.
we all know the tremendous amount of talent that passed through U.C.L.A. - but Wooden did more than win games and titles ... he shaped the lives of so many of these young men, during some of the most tumultuous times this country has ever seen - they grew to revere and love and honor him long after their days at Pauley Pavilion.
sure, the field wasn't as wide open back when he won 10 outta 12 as it is now, and, yes - the dibs on top talent was more easily procured then, as well - but the "Wizard of Westwood" transcended mere Xs and Os - his "Pyramid of Success" demanded excellence and virtue both on and off the court, and he led by such graceful example.
ps - first player to ever be a three time selection as an All American back in his days at Purdue ... the man could walk the talk.
@Zow - up next.
i know y'all wants to get the slamdunkiest catmonsters up front, but this here's the 1.01 of any sports draft. Bumbaye!Sorry, crazy morning with snow and kids. This was also a really tough choice but....
1.8 Muhammad Ali - Greatest Heavyweight
Arguably the greatest pound for pound boxer to live. He’s the best heavyweight ever and fought n the greatest era of heavyweights. The sociopolitical impact he made pushed him a nose ahead of my other considerations.
Great pick1.11 - Greatest Horse - Secretariat
Zero argument
momma named him clay, i'm gonna call him claySorry, crazy morning with snow and kids. This was also a really tough choice but....
1.8 Muhammad Ali - Greatest Heavyweight
Arguably the greatest pound for pound boxer to live. He’s the best heavyweight ever and fought n the greatest era of heavyweights. The sociopolitical impact he made pushed him a nose ahead of my other considerations.
This was my other option for my pick. Had him in my top five. Was surprised he lasted.1.12 George Herman "Babe" Ruth Jr.
i'll figure out the category later.
I actually thought about him at 1.02. I thought people might forget about himtimschochet said:Somehow I was thinking that Wooden would drop to me at 15. Guess not.
had the great pleasure to visit him at Claiborne Farm in the mid 80s. 15 years old then. still looked like he wanted to run thru a brick wall. still looked like he could. most beautiful thing i've ever seen.1.11 - Greatest Horse - Secretariat
Zero argument
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrggghhhh! i was raised Catholic, but Say Hey was my deity. His joy of play is unmatched in any sport1.13- Willie Mays, greatest outfielder
skip itAlert-
just realized a huge gap in this: race car driving.
Should we add:
Greatest race car driver?
Greatest NASCAR driver?
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just realized a huge gap in this: race car driving.
Should we add:
Greatest race car driver?
Greatest NASCAR driver?
I actually considered Brown for all around greatest athlete.1.16 Jim Brown - RB
2.01 Bill Russell - C (and greatest winner OF ALL TIME)
Well, y'all left me two of my 60s heroes and probably the two who fit best together. My formative heroes were all black men - these two, Willy Mays, Ali and Malcolm X. The latter, thru his autobiography, taught me that being better than my obstacles was the way to go. More than any two other athletes, Brown & Russ embodied that by doing their jobs better than anyone ever had and never looking up to see what white folk thought of what they'd done. They OWNED their worlds and, if they could, so could i. Thank you both.
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arguably better at lacrosse than football, if one can fathom thatI actually considered Brown for greatest multi-sport athlete.
Yep.arguably better at lacrosse than football, if one can fathom that
Good pick. Didn't consider him in the first round because he isn't the clear-cut greatest ever at his craft where most of the others selected were.2.05 Eldrick "Tiger" Woods
almost took him in the first round. ive never been his biggest fan, but he changed the game on a level only previously done by the king, and Tiger's record is miles better.
Urrrgggghhhh ... I was hoping he would slip by seeing that Jim B was already selected. Nice pick!2.04- Barry Sanders, greatest RB
I actually considered Brown for all around greatest athlete.
dunno why the footage doesnt appear to have made it to the youtube era, but i swear they showed some Syracuse lacrosse highlights on Wide World of Sports once. it was pretty much twenty guys - both sides - afraid of going anywhere near one.arguably better at lacrosse than football, if one can fathom that
he was first-in if there werent 2 of my 60s heroes left at the elbow2.05 Eldrick "Tiger" Woods
almost took him in the first round. ive never been his biggest fan, but he changed the game on a level only previously done by the king, and Tiger's record is miles better.