2021-22 NBA Thread: Bill Simmons furiously recording 2.5 hour long pod about how Boston is still better than Golden State (3 Viewers)

[msudaisy26]

Time for another heart attack as Boston attempts to close 

Seems like they closed just fine. 

 

[Chaos Commish]

I WANT Horford to win MVP.

 

[Charlie Harper]

Celtics win the 3 point contest behind the elite shooting of Derrick White and Al Horford. 

On to the next one.

 

[wilked]

I saw the article that all the sharp money came in late on the Celts. Starting to see why…

 

[msudaisy26]

Great 4th by the Celtics. 

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Horford MVP.

Horford absolutely played great—as did White—but for me—Jaylen Brown was the spark that brought them to life. The Celts looked like they were on the brink of getting blown out before he single handedly kept them in the game and gave them hope. 

 

[GROOT]

The game has evolved into 3 pointers. Worst finals ever.

 

[Major]

Dayummm if the Celtics can play like this when Tatum is off, the Warriors might be in trouble.

If they shoot like that as a team, they'll sweep GS.

 

[msudaisy26]

The game has evolved into 3 pointers. Worst finals ever.

Thanks for stopping by. 

 

[Jayrod]

Maybe computers know stuff? Models built based off 75 years of data may be on to something.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Celts

Kept Tatum/Brown together, Time Lord's competing for the sport's biggest prize, Big Al turning back the clock, didn't get stuck with that cancerous ##### Kyrie  

 

[Bossman]

Sweep!

 

[Anarchy99]

That’s Boston’s EIGHTH road win in these playoffs. 

 

[Tau837]

3 hours ago, Just Win Baby said:
I will go out on a limb here and say that you are not going to see anything in these Finals that is "something that no one has ever done or will be extremely difficult to repeat". So, respectfully, I'm really not sure what that has to do with what I posted.

Also, it's fine if you "don't care if it is the same team doing it". I do in this case. I didn't with the 80s Lakers or Celtics or 90s Bulls, but that is my own taste. I never expected everyone would agree with my opinion.
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Going to 6 finals in 8 years with a team with the same core is pretty rare and we have already seen 2 records broken in game 1. 

You said "something that no one has ever done". Other teams have gone to the finals 6 times in 8 seasons (Bulls, Celtics), and others have been close. So, like I said, you are not citing anything here that no one has ever done or will be extremely difficult to repeat.

 

[msudaisy26]

If they shoot like that as a team, they'll sweep GS.

Exactly. If they shoot like that they will never lose a game again. The Celtics might win the series, but I would be amazed if they shoot that well from 3 again this series. 

 

[msudaisy26]

You said "something that no one has ever done". Other teams have gone to the finals 6 times in 8 seasons (Bulls, Celtics), and others have been close. So, like I said, you are not citing anything here that no one has ever done or will be extremely difficult to repeat.

So you are telling me what I mean? Neat. 

 

[the moops]

That’s Boston’s EIGHTH road win in these playoffs. 

That is nuts. Anyone know what is the most road playoff games won by a team?

 

[wilked]

On a night when Curry sets the all time record for 3 pointers in a Q, they lost by 12. Wild 

defense at the heart of it 

 

[Anarchy99]

That is nuts. Anyone know what is the most road playoff games won by a team?

Nine.

 

[wilked]

That is nuts. Anyone know what is the most road playoff games won by a team?

Rockets had 9 

 

[Major]

I enjoyed it but that was a weird game

 

[brun]

Tatum helped with timely shooting down the stretch... after the whistle.

 

[Tau837]

So you are telling me what I mean? Neat. 

I simply reacted to what you wrote. If you meant something other than what you wrote, then okay, sure, my comments might not be on point. Not trying to pick an argument, moving on.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Klay still isn't his old self. If nobody else steps up, this could be very reminiscent of the Milwaukee series. Just put the clamp down on 1 guy and see if anyone else can win it for them.

Exactly.  It's over.  People thought Golden State was the Golden State of old.  The "old" part is true.  Who'd they beat to return to glory, exactly?  Not great TEAMS, just some great players, yes?

Nice value on Boston in the first game and especially for the Series.  Congrats!

 

[msudaisy26]

I enjoyed it but that was a weird game

Came down to the 3rd and 4th quarter. 1st and 2nd quarters were pretty even, the Celtics 4th quarter run was a lot better than the Warriors 3rd quarter run. 

 

[msudaisy26]

I simply reacted to what you wrote. If you meant something other than what you wrote, then okay, sure, my comments might not be on point. Not trying to pick an argument, moving on.

I wrote something rare or never seen. Like making 6 finals in 8 years is pretty rare. 2 records were broke in game 1 which is something we had never seen and they were good records not futility records like turnovers. 

 

[Chaos Commish]

My nephew sends a text: Fold Blooded

 

[ShamrockPride]

Anyone have numbers on what Boston shot in the 4th? I know they had another insane 4th I think it was against Milwaukee.

 

[Anarchy99]

Not going out on a limb here, but I doubt we see Boston outscore GS 40-16 in the fourth again. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

me hoppy. no diggity -

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Analytics - 1

Public - 0

celts may take a game or 2 off.  So still sticking with celts in 6.  Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a sweep or 4-1 though. 

 

[ShamrockPride]

Reminder that Derrick White is with the Celtics for another 3 years.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Reminder that Derrick White is with the Celtics for another 3 years.

unless we trade him for Kyrie

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Reminder that Derrick White is with the Celtics for another 3 years.

He was a big reason the analytics loved the celts and everyone laughed.  He’s came up huge in a lot of games.  He’s the x-factor 

 

[Charlie Harper]

He was a big reason the analytics loved the celts and everyone laughed.  He’s came up huge in a lot of games.  He’s the x-factor 

What exactly does analytics see? He's pretty much average from the regular advanced metrics.

 

[Jayrod]

What exactly does analytics see? He's pretty much average from the regular advanced metrics.

Fivethirtyeight has him in the top 20 players in the NBA this season.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Exactly.  It's over.  People thought Golden State was the Golden State of old.  The "old" part is true.  Who'd they beat to return to glory, exactly?  Not great TEAMS, just some great players, yes?

Nice value on Boston in the first game and especially for the Series.  Congrats!

 the same could be said about boston beating jimmy butler and the miami who? 

 

[Jayrod]

 the same could be said about boston beating jimmy butler and the miami who? 

The one thing that surprised me more than this game 1 win was how tough of an out Miami was. I think they were a LOT better than any of us knew.

 

[Frostillicus]

Pretty excited for the 2022-23 thread. Need Gordon Gekko back.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

What exactly does analytics see? He's pretty much average from the regular advanced metrics.

I’m not as smart as a computer so not sure why our overlords like him so much, but they do.  

 

[Jayrod]

Nah man, series is over, Golden State are a Golden Girls reunion show at this point.

BTW, careful with the laughing emoji.  JayLoRod is in here and reported me for it recently.  I was reprimanded (lol?) and no longer allowed to address the topic at hand.  Or maybe it was Jobadoesn'trules, not sure which, but either way, tattlers can sideline you and I don't want you to miss the Celtics Championship thread/run on here due to a laughing smiley, k?

Apologies in advance if I confused the two.

I can't remember the last time I reported someone and don't think I've ever done it for a laughing emoji, so doubt it was me.

But cool story, bro.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Celts were 9-11 from 3 at one point in the 4th. Insane. 

 

[SoBeDad]

The one thing that surprised me more than this game 1 win was how tough of an out Miami was. I think they were a LOT better than any of us knew.

Great comeback win for Boston. It'll be hard to shoot over 50% from 3 again, but Tatum won't be 3-17 again. Regarding the Heat, Lowry was a big liability, in hindsight they could've used Dragic, but who knew that Herro would lose his shooting touch and Lowry would be so unreliable. 

 

[the moops]

Celts were 9-11 from 3 at one point in the 4th. Insane. 

Steph was 6-8 from three in the 1st. Not sure which is more insane

 

[Ghost Rider]

I guess I still had visions of the Warriors from years ago in my head when I assumed they'd win this in 5 or 6, but the Celtics simply looked like the better team.  It feels like the Warriors going nuclear from 3, which they can obviously do at any given time, is their only chance.  Boston just looks like a well-oiled machine, given how well they play team ball.   Their best player had a bad game and they still won by double digits. Crazy. 

 

[Gatorman]

Great comeback win for Boston. It'll be hard to shoot over 50% from 3 again, but Tatum won't be 3-17 again. Regarding the Heat, Lowry was a big liability, in hindsight they could've used Dragic, but who knew that Herro would lose his shooting touch and Lowry would be so unreliable. 

Lowry has in shape next year, and I could see the dragon back in Miami as the third point guard as the heat keep developing the young’uns. 
 

If the Celtics win it all, Miami would likely be the team they had the hardest time with, and to escape miami they needed a hurt butler for 2 games, a hurt Lowry for the series, and a hurt herro for the end of the series and a missed 3 pointer to get there. 

 

[msudaisy26]

I guess I still had visions of the Warriors from years ago in my head when I assumed they'd win this in 5 or 6, but the Celtics simply looked like the better team.  It feels like the Warriors going nuclear from 3, which they can obviously do at any given time, is their only chance.  Boston just looks like a well-oiled machine, given how well they play team ball.   Their best player had a bad game and they still won by double digits. Crazy. 

The Celtics are very good, but they didn't look like a well oiled machine. The game was pretty much even at the half and the Celtics looked horrible in the 3rd. They had an amazing 4th quarter, but I doubt we see either team win a quarter by 24 points the rest of this series. 

 

[SoBeDad]

Lowry has in shape next year, and I could see the dragon back in Miami as the third point guard as the heat keep developing the young’uns. 
 

If the Celtics win it all, Miami would likely be the team they had the hardest time with, and to escape miami they needed a hurt butler for 2 games, a hurt Lowry for the series, and a hurt herro for the end of the series and a missed 3 pointer to get there. 

Also, Miami would've lost in the playoffs to the eventual NBA champs 3 years in a row. Maybe Spo is underappreciated. I see Boston's arrow pointing up, but not sure about Miami. Tucker might want a multi-year, and Oladipo will sign for a lot more than Miami would offer. Herro made huge strides but he's still a defensive liability. Yurtseven can score but is also a defensive liability. I saw Adebayo defended 5 people in game 7 who were a combined 2-17. 

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

You said "something that no one has ever done". Other teams have gone to the finals 6 times in 8 seasons (Bulls, Celtics), and others have been close. So, like I said, you are not citing anything here that no one has ever done or will be extremely difficult to repeat.

Yeah,but where is the HYPERBOLE? You can’t just have a good series, you need the OmG the best _____ evah!!!!! 
 

Case in point being Tatum. Very good player- he’s not a GREAT player. It’s ok. There are very few Wilts/Magics/Jordans/Kobes/Durants.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Some thoughts on last nights game.  I’m not as doom and gloom for the Warriors are some seem to be. I picked the Warriors in 6 when the series started—but also made clear that I thought that the series could easily go 7 and would not be surprised in the least bit if Boston won.  People made claims that the Celtics hadn’t played a team like the Warriors in the playoffs and they were in for a nasty surprise. I thought the opposite. I felt like the Celtics have played some insane competition so far this playoffs—and the Warriors have had the easier ride.  

One of the key elements in beating the Warriors is discipline on the defensive end—for the entirety of the shot clock.   The Celtics swept a team that required defensive discipline to beat—the Nets.  The Nets have Durant, Kyrie, Seth Curry, Patty Mills, Goran Dragic..etc.  Last night—the Celtics had some defensive lapses in the first quarter—and Steph made them pay.  However—they coupled that with periods of great defensive discipline—which allowed them to stay in the game and eventually pull off the win. 

With that said—I do think that Warriors fans shouldn’t feel like this series is over.  The fact of the matter is that the Warriors entered the 4th quarter up 12 points. For much of the game—they outplayed the Celtics.  Secondly—while everybody looks at 3 point shooting—imo the biggest discrepancy in the game was in regards to points in the paint and team assists.  The Celtics had 8 more points in the paint than the Warriors and they also had 9 more assists than the Warriors (very surprising).   I think that the Warriors may have underutilized Wiggins in game 1 as he’s one of the guys that can find a way to get in the paint and be effective there. Also—the assist discrepancy shows that Golden State was shooting off of the dribble more than usual. Lastly—I think the availability of Gary Payton II could have an impact for the Warriors. He plays bigger than his size and brings the Warriors a toughness that I felt like they were lacking last night. 

 I think the biggest takeaway from last night should be for those of whom thought that this series was going to be some cake walk for the Warriors. I still think that either team can win the series—but last night proved that it’s not going to be a cakewalk for either side.