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Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun

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1m

So the full deal is: OEL and Garland
for Roussel, Eriksson, Beagle, the 9th overall pick, 2nd RD pick in 2022 and 7th pick in 2023. And Arizona retains 12 percent of OEL.

 
Skipdog77 said:
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                        WON A TRADE

                                2021

                     BUFFALO SABRES

Let's celebrate responsibly tonight, Sabres fans. 
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:hifive:

losing him in the expansion draft for nothing would have been a win. this is so much better.

 
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Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun

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1m

So the full deal is: OEL and Garland
for Roussel, Eriksson, Beagle, the 9th overall pick, 2nd RD pick in 2022 and 7th pick in 2023. And Arizona retains 12 percent of OEL.
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Garland is a loss but Arizona dumps the OEL contract and got some nice picks as well.

 
So, speaking of inept franchises, how many years at this point would you say Francis has set the Kraken back?

This is a once-in-a-franchise moment, and he's pretty much completely botched it.

I mean, he made some ok picks. Great, so what. How hard is that to do?

Sure, he's still got a little time. But he's accomplished nothing at this point. Not a single thing. So why would you have any optimism that he's going to do anything helpful?

Nice head coach choice too.

Maybe Benning will be available for Seattle ownership when they fire Francis in a few years.

 
I dunno I kinda don’t mind that trade for Couver too much.  Perhaps OEL going to a solid team will help and Canucks needed some help on the blue line.  Garland also a nice piece.  Plus they shred some salary. Sure they had to give up two picks but you have to give something to get something.  For yotes this was a no brainer as OEL became expendable after attaining Ghost and it seems Arizona is where all big contracts go to die. Arizona has a bunch of draft capital and cap space.  Arizona isn’t going anywhere fast.  

 
guru_007 said:
I dunno I kinda don’t mind that trade for Couver too much.  Perhaps OEL going to a solid team will help and Canucks needed some help on the blue line.  Garland also a nice piece.  Plus they shred some salary. Sure they had to give up two picks but you have to give something to get something.  For yotes this was a no brainer as OEL became expendable after attaining Ghost and it seems Arizona is where all big contracts go to die. Arizona has a bunch of draft capital and cap space.  Arizona isn’t going anywhere fast.  
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they didn't really shed salary though.

OEL plus the contract for Garland is going to cost as much or more than the players they shipped out...who are on the last year of their deals I think.

PuckPedia @PuckPedia

To #Canucks:
Ekman-Larsson: 6 years @ $8.25M ($990K retained)
Garland RFA

To #Yotes
-Eriksson: 1 Year @ $6M
-Beagle: 1 Year @ $3M
-Roussel: 1 Year @ $3M -'21 1st (#9)
-'22 2nd
-'23 7th

#Canucks save $4.74M Net Cap Hit Yr 1 #Canucks add $7.26M Yrs 2-6 https://puckpedia.com/trade/420
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BeTheMatch said:
So, speaking of inept franchises, how many years at this point would you say Francis has set the Kraken back?

This is a once-in-a-franchise moment, and he's pretty much completely botched it.

I mean, he made some ok picks. Great, so what. How hard is that to do?

Sure, he's still got a little time. But he's accomplished nothing at this point. Not a single thing. So why would you have any optimism that he's going to do anything helpful?

Nice head coach choice too.

Maybe Benning will be available for Seattle ownership when they fire Francis in a few years.
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Total disaster. Will be fascinating to see how they do but there is no doubt he botched all those side deals. Literally once in a lifetime chance. 

 
Capella said:
Total disaster. Will be fascinating to see how they do but there is no doubt he botched all those side deals. Literally once in a lifetime chance. 
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When they selected Francis as their GM, I thought, oh... Well, I guess that's... Well, actually it's pretty... No, that's TOTALLY AWFUL!!! And here we are.

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
they didn't really shed salary though.

OEL plus the contract for Garland is going to cost as much or more than the players they shipped out...who are on the last year of their deals I think.
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Perhaps I should have said offset salary.  I understand OELs contract is big and Garland gonna get paid but they sent off salaries this year.  Obviously 2-3-4 years down the road I may be singing a different tune but I am an OEL fan admittedly.  Will be nice to see him play on a good team. 

 
been reading a lot of analysis on buchnevich and you’d think the nyr dealt away gordon howe.  for a guy who played alongside zibanejad and panarin, he was invisible an awful lot and i’ve watched every ranger game for quite a while.  he was a scratch sometimes in the past.  oops, i’d write more but i am cooking dinner.

 
CapFriendly@CapFriendly

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10m

And it might not be over... we're hearing that there are more top 15 picks in tonights draft that might be on the move.

 
Chemical X said:
been reading a lot of analysis on buchnevich and you’d think the nyr dealt away gordon howe.  for a guy who played alongside zibanejad and panarin, he was invisible an awful lot and i’ve watched every ranger game for quite a while.  he was a scratch sometimes in the past.  oops, i’d write more but i am cooking dinner.
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I think he's more comparable to Stephen Yzerman. 

 
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Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun

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5m

Full trade: To Chicago: Seth Jones, the 32nd overall pick tonight, a sixth-round pick in 2022

To Columbus: Adam Boqvist, first and second-round picks this weekend, a first-round pick 2022 (if the pick is top 2, it becomes a 2023 first round pick instead)

 
Getzlaf15 said:
Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger

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7m

Lots of attention being paid to NYR, Minny, Anaheim, La as potential fits for Jack Eichel. Some rumblings Montreal could be in the mix for the star center.
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I hope not MN.  insane price tag and if they are blowing it up Fiala isn’t going to sign there so without him in the deal it makes no sense.

 
Sabres release some sappy voiceover video from Ryan Miller and all of a sudden I'm ready to run through a wall and buy some season tickets

 
Chemical X said:
been reading a lot of analysis on buchnevich and you’d think the nyr dealt away gordon howe.  for a guy who played alongside zibanejad and panarin, he was invisible an awful lot and i’ve watched every ranger game for quite a while.  he was a scratch sometimes in the past.  oops, i’d write more but i am cooking dinner.
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thats not really true IMO,  was our best PK last year.    wasn't on Panarin's line,    may have been scratched in year 1 or 2 but he's  played most of our games the last 3 years.   he's no gordie howe.      writing was on the wall though, we have enough top 6 wingers and his next contract wasn't gonna work for us.    other GM's knew this, hence the return, imo.

 
Chemical X said:
been reading a lot of analysis on buchnevich and you’d think the nyr dealt away gordon howe.  for a guy who played alongside zibanejad and panarin, he was invisible an awful lot and i’ve watched every ranger game for quite a while.  he was a scratch sometimes in the past.  oops, i’d write more but i am cooking dinner.
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Yet you were pushing him as the key piece in an Eichel trade. lol

 
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Bill Brasky said:
have to take those numbers with a grain of salt playing in Buffalo.  not good tho
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As Dom said the Athletic

“Ristolainen has not been bad because of Buffalo — Buffalo has been bad because Ristolainen has been their most used defenceman.“

 
The Seth Jones contract is pretty bad, but I thought they did a good job of not overpaying CBJ in the trade. Return for Jones not much better than return for Ristolainen. 

 
Bill Brasky said:
well then, 100 point team next year?
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 Of course not. But he’s the common element to them being terrible even when they had ROR and Eichel as their top 2 C with Lehner in net. Tons of other problems as well such as lack of depth and wasted draft picks, bad trades, horrible coach hires and what have you. But this is addition by subtraction most likely. 
 

wish they had moved him sooner. Maybe Eichel and Reinhart wouldn’t be forcing their way out and setting the franchise back another few years. 

 
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Aaron Rudnicki said:
 Of course not. But he’s the common element to them being terrible even when they had ROR and Eichel as their top 2 C with Lehner in net. Tons of other problems as well such as lack of depth and wasted draft picks, bad trades, horrible coach hires and what have you. But this is addition by subtraction most likely. 
 

wish they had moved him sooner. Maybe Eichel and Reinhart wouldn’t be forcing their way out and setting the franchise back another few years. 
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all I'm saying is fancy stats are going to be slanted to a degree on a bad team.  not just one guy out there.

 
Not optimistic that this new management has a clue what they are doing. They have zero centers under contract after this season and zero centers in the pipeline. They have an abundance of wingers which is why Buch was given away today. So with a chance to land a quality Center in this draft, they go with a LW. Oh, they have Panarin, Krieder and Laffy on the left hand side. Brilliant. 

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
 Of course not. But he’s the common element to them being terrible even when they had ROR and Eichel as their top 2 C with Lehner in net. Tons of other problems as well such as lack of depth and wasted draft picks, bad trades, horrible coach hires and what have you. But this is addition by subtraction most likely. 
 

wish they had moved him sooner. Maybe Eichel and Reinhart wouldn’t be forcing their way out and setting the franchise back another few years. 
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maybe, also from the athletic:

his success with Jake McCabe as a partner is legitimately interesting. Despite struggling with Eichel, Sam Reinhart, Jeff Skinner and essentially every defenseman that Buffalo has thrown his way over eight seasons, he actually worked quite well with the unheralded McCabe over the past three seasons, even by the numbers. In fact, in over 1,100 minutes at five-on-five together since 2018-19, the duo put up a solid 51.26 percent expected goals for rate. McCabe is far from Sanheim stylistically, but the successful partnership of McCabe-Ristolainen provides hope that if the Flyers do find the right partner for him, Ristolainen could thrive.

 
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