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2022 Little League World Series (1 Viewer)
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Anyone ever been to the series in person?
If you’re interested and you ever get the chance, go
belljr
Footballguy
We went way before it was commercialized. My grandfather was pretty well known, he went for like 50 years. My dad is probably around 35 years now. I actually was supposed to go with him this year, he has tickets to the MLB game but I have a prior commitment I have to go-to. My grandfather and dad have umpired in the llws, senior world series and big league world series I know I'll sound like get off my lawn but I liked it better before all the ESPN of it all
Been a few times. Benefit of living about 90mins south of Williamsport.
Agree that it is a very fun and unique experience.
Good team. I think them and the Hawaii team are our best shot at the title.
I think if some of the international teams are as good as they traditionally are then I don't think any of the US teams have the pitching this year.
The biggest problem with the commercialization of "Little League" is that it is the worst baseball youth league for teaching baseball. The rules are very restrictive and it doesn't foster progression. I would like to see some of the other organizations that are a little more baseball oriented (PONY, Cal Ripken, etc) be highlighted as much because I think the baseball aspect would be much better.
I have had very bad experiences with the LL organization while on my local board. They were very dismissive of improvements for the teaching of the game and very rigid and I truly believe much of that is because of the commercialization and how big the LL World Series has gotten. The restrictions are to protect that entity and the integrity of it which is understandable. But it loses some sight of what you are trying to do baseball wise - which is teach the game and get kids ready for the next level (if they desire to go to the next level).
The LL organization is a good youth organization and has it's heart in the right place but the baseball development gets lost in the wash at times.
This is part of the issue with the LL organization...They don't transition well. The 46/60 size field is the same size for all levels up to 12 years old. It's a disservice for baseball development. .........and I am not saying that age should be leading off but increasing the size will help with the transition.
Latest I heard was in a coma. Not sure if medically induced
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Massapequa beat Tom’s River to win the Metro, right? Rooting for them. Which Asian/Pacific Rim team is in?
Taipei
Just reported that he woke up this morning asking for water. Says he is waving to family members.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not a better, but this is probably a decent rough guide on the strongest teams.
Little League World Series United States
West +500: Honolulu Little League; Honolulu, Hawaii
Metro +575: Massapequa Coast Little League; Massapequa, New York
Great Lakes +1000: Hagerstown Little League; Hagerstown, Indiana
Southeast +1000: Nolensville Little League; Nolensville, Tennessee
Mountain +1000: Snow Canyon Little League; Santa Clara, Utah
Mid-Atlantic +1400: Hollidaysburg Area Summer Baseball Little League; Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania
Midwest +1400: Davenport Southeast Little League; Davenport, Iowa
Southwest +1400: Pearland Little League; Pearland, Texas
New England +4000: Middleborough Little League; Middleborough, Massachusetts
Northwest +4000: Bonney Lake/Sumner Little League; Bonney Lake, Washington
Panama +650: Aguadulce Cabezera Little League; Aguadulce, Panama
Asia-Pacific +750: Fu Lin Little League; Taipei City, Chinese Taipei
Mexico +1000: Matamoros Little League; Matamoros, Tamaulipas, Mexico
Latin America +1200: 14 de Septiembre Little League; Managua, Nicaragua
Canada +1200: Little Mountain Little League; Vancouver, British Columbia
Caribbean +1400: Pabao Little League; Willemstad, Curacao
Puerto Rico +2000: Guaynabo Baseball Little League; Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
Australia +2500: Brisbane North Little League; Queensland, Australia
Europe-Africa +5000: Emilia Romagna Little League; Bologna, Italy
Little League World Series United States
West +500: Honolulu Little League; Honolulu, Hawaii
Metro +575: Massapequa Coast Little League; Massapequa, New York
Great Lakes +1000: Hagerstown Little League; Hagerstown, Indiana
Southeast +1000: Nolensville Little League; Nolensville, Tennessee
Mountain +1000: Snow Canyon Little League; Santa Clara, Utah
Mid-Atlantic +1400: Hollidaysburg Area Summer Baseball Little League; Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania
Midwest +1400: Davenport Southeast Little League; Davenport, Iowa
Southwest +1400: Pearland Little League; Pearland, Texas
New England +4000: Middleborough Little League; Middleborough, Massachusetts
Northwest +4000: Bonney Lake/Sumner Little League; Bonney Lake, Washington
Little League World Series International
Japan +200: Takarazuka Little League; Takarazuka, JapanPanama +650: Aguadulce Cabezera Little League; Aguadulce, Panama
Asia-Pacific +750: Fu Lin Little League; Taipei City, Chinese Taipei
Mexico +1000: Matamoros Little League; Matamoros, Tamaulipas, Mexico
Latin America +1200: 14 de Septiembre Little League; Managua, Nicaragua
Canada +1200: Little Mountain Little League; Vancouver, British Columbia
Caribbean +1400: Pabao Little League; Willemstad, Curacao
Puerto Rico +2000: Guaynabo Baseball Little League; Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
Australia +2500: Brisbane North Little League; Queensland, Australia
Europe-Africa +5000: Emilia Romagna Little League; Bologna, Italy
TheWalkmen
Footballguy
What happened?
belljr
Footballguy
Utah kid fell out of the top bunk in the dorm and fractured his skull. They say he was sleeping but who knows the actual what was going on. Not that is important as it was a sad accident no matter what
It is ridiculous. My son has been playing on 50/70 since 11
I'm surprised Massapequa is 2nd favorite. They were only the 2 seed in NY bracket. STATEN island team was the favorite and actually got upset vs another team in semi finals. Never got to face each other but Staten Island should've handled them
zamboni
Footballguy
I think shutting down perennial powerhouse - and former LLWS champion - Toms River (New Jersey) gave them a big boost in the odds.
coopersdad
Footballguy
In 2006 our LL had a great team in Texas. We made it to state finals. My son was 10 at the time, and on the 10YO allstar team. We decided to make the trip that year. He loved the trip. The next 2 years he made it to the Texas state finals, but could never get passed the McAllister Park and Lubbock teams that made it to Williamsport. It was tough watching teams from other regions make it that couldn't make it out of district in Texas, but still LL was a great overall experience. We moved when my youngest was 9, so he never got to experience the LL allstar experience.
Dickies
Footballguy
My district hosts the Little League Intermediate (50/70) World Series. It’s not as well publicized as the Williamsport event, but I think it’s a lot of fun and to your point, is better quality baseball.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Do you have some numbers or links that suggest the players are hindered long term by LL? I'm not being argumentative, Ive just never heard anything about this.
I have not seen any official studies. I am basing my comments on my own experience of having coached kids coming from multiple programs and seeing the development differences of making a jump from LL size fields to full size fields vs the gradual increase as they get older. The LL players have been behind by quite a large margin.
How this has an ultimate effect in long term performance is likely marginal but it doesn't change the difference in skill levels as they are going.
Also, I would venture a guess that 90% of the players you see in the LL WS play both travel and LL and are not your typical LL player. I would also be willing to bet that if LL wasn't marketed so well or have the contract with ESPN for the LL WS these kids would not be playing LL.
The organization would help short term development if they were willing to change with the times and move to progressive field dimensions. But to answer your original question, it likely has minimal overall effect to long term (high school and beyond) development provided the kid continues to play at high levels.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
220/221, whatever it takes...
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Yeah, this is either the best Canadian team I’ve ever seen or the worst Japanese team.
Probably a little of both
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
They’re supposed to be one of the better teans, too
Ain’t nobody beating Hawaii. Two mercy games to start off is pretty intimidating.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Long way to go, pitching depth is all that matters anymore
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Hawaii has outscored OPP 29-1, two 1-hitters + one no-no
Yea I was definitely wrong in my original post about no US team having the pitching this year. Hawaii is the cream of the crop in the tournament this year so far. But you never know when a team runs into a dominant pitching performance, and there are some studs on various teams.
Enough with the rain delays though.
What makes Hawaii so good? Do they pull their team from the entire island? I know its warm there and so they can play year round but its also warm in tons of other states. Also, if Hawaii is so good at the LL level, how come they dont produce many major league players?
belljr
Footballguy
You know the answer to that. Just because you're dominant at 12 doesnt make you dominant at 18 - if you are even still playing.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I thought all the LLWS were local league only. No travel teams, no state wide all-star teams. It’s all star teams of local leagues.
Players can play travel ball + LL, but AFAIK they’ve stayed true to the local league only rule.
Agreed. Thats what I thought. So what makes Hawaii so dominant?
All the kids are from Honolulu, so no different than other LL teams from other metro areas.
I think their recent dominance comes from having the same coach for many years and his expertise coaching 12yr olds. Also, as with any youth organization, if the local community supports the kids , financially and in other ways, it is more likely to be successful.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Some big kids dominate LL then never excel at sports again. Often see non-athletes dominate LL through sheer size or strength.
Not really the case here though. The Hawaiian team is good in every phase. Well coached team.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’m not really sure. Their hitters are very aggressive - first pitch, 3-0 count, whatever, they let him get after it. Good defensive team. They haven’t given up a lot of base runners. Even in the LLWS, you see a lot of overthrows and WP with men on. Lot of small ball, force the other teams to make the right play quickly.
Psychologically it’s so tough when you’re up against a dominant team. Soon as you’re down 2-0 or more you start pressing even more. But one good pitching performance and they could be beat.
