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2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. Banged up team loses to Buffalo. Looking ahead to 2024 now (1 Viewer)
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
My information is 3rd hand, but it was damn accurate last year, so I believe it for the most part. If we draft a QB in the first, it won't be on Colbert and Tomlin if he doesn't work out.
They also have Pickens as a 1st round grade.
If they can get Davis, Stingley, or Hamilton in the first and then Leal or Pickens in the second, I think everyone is happy. Maybe Strong slips to the third?
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
punt!Grid71 said:
JoeSteeler
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please nosteeler6 said:
Godsbrother
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steeler6 said:
This would be a disaster.
Leeroy Jenkins
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https://steelersdepot.com/2022/04/fowler-majority-of-sources-lean-toward-steelers-drafting-position-other-than-qb-in-round-one/
Corroborates what I am hearing kind of.
Corroborates what I am hearing kind of.
Bracie Smathers
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Oh jeese, everyone talks. Nothing to get excited about but the teams they spoke with sit in interesting spots on the board, ahead of QB needy teams.steeler6 said:
Another 'rumor', check out the number.
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JoeSteeler
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I have the same 1st & 3rd round picks. Skyy Moore in round 2Godsbrother said:
steelcityman
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Maybe they want to trade up for a real lockdown CB, or think Hamilton and Minkah at the safety spots would intercept Jackson like 6 times next year. I dont think they are even considering QB, maybe Strong later in 3rd-4th rd just for depth.
Or, maybe, Detroit takes Willis and then this is all moot.
Or, maybe, Detroit takes Willis and then this is all moot.
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Bracie Smathers
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Ya never know.
I like the kid, have all through the process.
HUGE upside.
From a few hours ago, matches the chatter.
2022 NFL mock draft: Billy Riccette's final 1st-round predictive mock
6) Pittsburgh Steelers (proj. trade with CAR) – Malik Willis, QB, Liberty
The Panthers probably would love to trade down. They have no picks in the second or third round. The Steelers send No. 52 this year and their first next year to come up from 20 and get the guy everyone feels they’ve been in love with since the Senior Bowl.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I don't put any stock in the chatter but if comes to pass then the Steelers better be right about Willis becoming the next franchise QB.
If he doesn't pan out then it is a disaster because by taking a QB you are basically giving up on 2022 and it will take a couple of years before you realized you screwed up if he stinks.
Not a good way for Colbert to leave the franchise for the next GM.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The Steelers have been wrong in the past and they've been right many times. They'll survive no matter what.
steelers1080
Footballguy
This is pretty much my ideal draft. I think he'll be gone in the first 40 picks, but if Pickens in there at 52 that would be my ideal. Idk about those 2 7th round guys, but they're 7th round fliers and we need a RB and more WRs. Pickens reminds me of Juju where early in his career everyone raved about him, and then for reasons (QB issues / Injuries) they didn't maintain their high stock, but his talent when healthy is legit.Godsbrother said:
The rumors and "news" is flying furiously at this point, the first round seems like the biggest crapshoot it's been in ages. I think the Steelers first round pick is Davis if he makes it past the Vikings/Ravens/Eagles, then Hamilton, then Willis. If they're all gone, then Pickett, Georgia LB or Daxton Hill. I don't think the Steelers trade up past 12, and if they do trade up past 17 I think it's for a defensive player. If they trade up to 17 or 18 I think it's for a QB.
Also, would not be shocked if top 2 CBs, Hamilton, Davis, 2-3 WRs, etc are gone at 20 and we trade down, maybe with KC for their 1st and 2nd so KC can move up for a WR and we will get a player at 29 with similar value to what we'd get at 20. IMO Pickett is there at 29 if we don't take him at 20...
steelers1080
Footballguy
He could probably go at pick 32 or early 2nd, but if Corral is there at 52 I would be surprised if we didn't take him. David Carr was talking to his old QB coach, current Steelers QB Coach Mike Sullivan who said he liked his game.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
OK. Posting two mocks with out trades, based on some rankings I am hearing. This violates the Colbert/Tomlin meeting in the first round rule though -- but not picking up Bush's 5th year is telling: First mock is no QB in first. Second is QB in first:
NO QB 1st:
20. Devin Lloyd - LB, Utah
52. DeMarvin Leal - DE, TAM
84. Justyn Ross - WR, Clemson
138. Cordell Volson - OT, North Dakota St.
208. Damarion Williams - CB, Houston
235. Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa - Edge, Notre Dame
241. Chris Oladokun - QB, South Dakota St.
QB 1st:
20. Kenny Pickett, QB - Pitt
52. DeMarvin Leal - DE, TAM
84. Coby Bryant - CB, Cinci
138. Danny Gray - WR, SMU
208. Josh Ross - LB, Michigan
235. Bam Olaseni - OT, Utah
241. Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa - Edge, Notre Dame
Other potential 1st round picks: Kaiir Elam, Kenyon Green, or WR. I don't love those mocks though.
NO QB 1st:
20. Devin Lloyd - LB, Utah
52. DeMarvin Leal - DE, TAM
84. Justyn Ross - WR, Clemson
138. Cordell Volson - OT, North Dakota St.
208. Damarion Williams - CB, Houston
235. Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa - Edge, Notre Dame
241. Chris Oladokun - QB, South Dakota St.
QB 1st:
20. Kenny Pickett, QB - Pitt
52. DeMarvin Leal - DE, TAM
84. Coby Bryant - CB, Cinci
138. Danny Gray - WR, SMU
208. Josh Ross - LB, Michigan
235. Bam Olaseni - OT, Utah
241. Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa - Edge, Notre Dame
Other potential 1st round picks: Kaiir Elam, Kenyon Green, or WR. I don't love those mocks though.
steelers1080
Footballguy
What about Daxton Hill with the Michigan Pro-day, the versatility, Sutton's expiring contract/need for slot coverage? I think he could/should got a bit later, but not too much of a reach.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I was thinking the same thing, but apparently not in the mix based on what I have seen/been told third hand. But who knows.
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Drunken Cowboy
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You are happy to reach for a slot corner, but you are worked up about reaching fir a QB?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I have heard the Steelers love Hill. It wouldn't shock me if they went this direction if Davis is gone
steelers1080
Footballguy
Yeah, we've gone through this many times. IMO the QBs are not quality starters and never will be. I would much rather draft a player I view as a quality starter than a bust QB. I get that QBs inherently have a higher upside than any other position, but the game tape that I watched convinced me that the top 5 QBs in this class will never be top 16 QBs in the league. If we already have a mediocre QB on the team, why draft another?
Was my stance, is my stance, and will remain my stance.
If the Steelers draft a QB early, I'll just hope I'm wrong and root for them as hard as I can and try to be optimistic for the future of the franchise. If they're a bust after 2-3 years I'll say I told you so, and if they're amazing then I'll eat crow and say I was wrong.
steelcityman
Footballguy
Avoiding QB this year. Sign Fitzmagic for depth, and a undrafted FA too.
Linderbaum - went back to 29 and added pick 62 from KC(not sure thats great value or not)
Tolbert - need a quality WR
Coby Bryant - IDK why he isnt being considered higher, teams threw at him and he showed up, unlike spaghetti Sauce.
Petit-Frere or Rasheed Walker - Run blocking RT
Get an OL in place for Jurkovec next years QB pick for Steelers.
i just did this on that PFN sim. Those arent that accurate IMO after rd 1-2 but still.
Linderbaum - went back to 29 and added pick 62 from KC(not sure thats great value or not)
Tolbert - need a quality WR
Coby Bryant - IDK why he isnt being considered higher, teams threw at him and he showed up, unlike spaghetti Sauce.
Petit-Frere or Rasheed Walker - Run blocking RT
Get an OL in place for Jurkovec next years QB pick for Steelers.
i just did this on that PFN sim. Those arent that accurate IMO after rd 1-2 but still.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
this has been the most realistic mock draft tool IMO:
https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
If they trade back, KC might make the most sense if they want to get ahead of GB to get the receiver they want.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
If the first round had all of the defenders and WRs go ahead of 20 and they don't want a QB in the first.
20. Kenyon Green-IOL, Texas A&M
52.George Pickens -WR, Georgia
84. Sam Williams - EDGE, Ole Miss
138. Carson Strong - QB, Nevada
208. Amari Carter - S, Miami
225. Aaron Hansford - LB, Texas A&M
241. Kyler McMichael - CB, North Carolina
I like this one, except I never got someone on the D-Line. There were some limited options at 225 though, so maybe Christopher Hinton - IDL, Michigan OR LaBryan Ray - IDL, Alabama there instead, if we are good with Buddy Johnson already for 2022.
20. Kenyon Green-IOL, Texas A&M
52.George Pickens -WR, Georgia
84. Sam Williams - EDGE, Ole Miss
138. Carson Strong - QB, Nevada
208. Amari Carter - S, Miami
225. Aaron Hansford - LB, Texas A&M
241. Kyler McMichael - CB, North Carolina
I like this one, except I never got someone on the D-Line. There were some limited options at 225 though, so maybe Christopher Hinton - IDL, Michigan OR LaBryan Ray - IDL, Alabama there instead, if we are good with Buddy Johnson already for 2022.
Aznflyer14
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I sincerely doubt that Steelers GM Colbert would trade up from 20th to 6th. Colbert knows that this is his final draft and doesn't want to put Steelers in precarious situation with so many needs and few draft selections.
steelcityman
Footballguy
i tried there, cant trade, but got the same first 3, and the OTs were gone, but took Carson Strong at 138(4th rd). I dont like QB at all, but its too early for RB depth.
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steelers1080
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Leeroy Jenkins
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
It is just a simulator based soley on need. Teams will do stupid stuff, I just hope the Steelers aren't the team doing it.
steelcityman
Footballguy
They might be tempted by WR or Corner. At least we gotta hope they are. Or that maybe Iggles takes Davis.Agree a trade up is the only realistic way Pittsburgh gets Davis. That or Baltimore loses internet for 20 minutes while their pick is up.
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steelers1080
Footballguy
Yeah, it's possible the Ravens trade back in the 1st if GB/KC moves up for a WR or TEN moves up for a QB, but no guarantee. And the Ravens could go CB or OT, but then one of Vikings/Eagles/Chargers will probably take Davis anyways. I think our only hope is trading up, or if we're seriously underestimating the devaluation of a NT.Agree a trade up is the only realistic way Pittsburgh gets Davis. That or Baltimore loses internet for 20 minutes while their pick is up.
I think it's more likely Davis goes top 12 than falls past 17.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I hope that if we aren’t getting Davis, Stingley, or Hamilton, that they go early. Then the Steelers won’t be tempted to trade up and may in fact trade backwards
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Wanted Carolina to take Willis. Not a believer.
Washington scares me as a pick for QB. Never underestimate how stupid Richie Rich is in drafting
Well never mind that because the Saints have traded up. I figure they will take a QB
Yes they took a wide receiver.
Oh #### the Lions traded to the spot. They need a QB desperately
Well never mind that because the Saints have traded up. I figure they will take a QB
Yes they took a wide receiver.
Oh #### the Lions traded to the spot. They need a QB desperately
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
It's happening......
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Is this the nba??
Hearing Qb or Pickens ….hope it’s wrong and they trade down.
Hearing Qb or Pickens ….hope it’s wrong and they trade down.
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Godsbrother
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Hoping for Daxton Hill or Trevor Penning but if we go QB at least we didn’t move up to get him
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Id be fine with Penning. Love his game, but did they even meet with him? No thanks, on Hill.
Its all moot. Theyre taking a QB
Its all moot. Theyre taking a QB
Godsbrother
Footballguy
It’s Kenny pickett
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Welp, so much for that.
Maybe they'll zig and surprise me. Grab one of those UGA defenders.
Maybe they'll zig and surprise me. Grab one of those UGA defenders.
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