3C's
Footballguy
I'd put it at >50% considering the talking heads (Glazer/Schefter) put it out there before the playoffs.
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2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. Banged up team loses to Buffalo. Looking ahead to 2024 now (1 Viewer)
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Godsbrother
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I think it would be best for Tomlin to move on although I thought he did a good job down the stretch this season and can't really blame this playoff on loss on him.
That said I think a new coach will mean a reassessment at some key positions, particularly QB. Mason Rudolph showed that Kenny Pickett should not be rubber stamped as the 2024 starter. I think a new head coach will be able to have a fresh take on the position.
That said I think a new coach will mean a reassessment at some key positions, particularly QB. Mason Rudolph showed that Kenny Pickett should not be rubber stamped as the 2024 starter. I think a new head coach will be able to have a fresh take on the position.
steelers1080
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I do not get the impression that he's going anywhere. I could be wrong, but I think that him walking out when the question started to get asked was the same as when he was offended when they were asking about USC.
I'm hoping the Front Office leads a re-assessment of the whole team, including the OC and DC.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Total Matt Canada formation and play on that endzone INT. Cannot recover from that in this kind of game. UGH
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
There should have been a 15 yard penalty and possible ejection on the JPJ concussion play.
Hold on Josh Allen TD was blatant too.
Oh well.
Need a Center, ILB, and D-Line help as priorities.
Not sure if they draft a QB on day 2/3 or sign a free agent. Mitch is gone. They should pay Rudy and let him and KP have a real battle.
CB help is needed too . . . .
Hold on Josh Allen TD was blatant too.
Oh well.
Need a Center, ILB, and D-Line help as priorities.
Not sure if they draft a QB on day 2/3 or sign a free agent. Mitch is gone. They should pay Rudy and let him and KP have a real battle.
CB help is needed too . . . .
steelers1080
Footballguy
We need to replace Levi Wallace and Pat P. Hopefully Trice comes back healthy.
Also, Allen had the fake slide on his long run, and then we hit him later to make sure it's not a fake and we get flagged. Double whammy.
Steeler's need to keep Andy Weidle. Hopefully, he doesn't leave for another GM job. Keep in mind Omar Khan was an assistant GM to Kevin Colbert. 2023 draft was the first one without Kevin, first one with Omar Khan as GM and first one with Andy Weidle. Makes me wonder which of the 3 had a bigger impact.
I'm not so sure I'd keep Larry Ogunjobi at 6.2 million. But you'd almost have to if Heyward retires.
I hope Tomlin takes exit stage left as he did in the presser. But a huge part of me doesn't see him going. It's easy money for him with no accountability.
I'm not so sure I'd keep Larry Ogunjobi at 6.2 million. But you'd almost have to if Heyward retires.
I hope Tomlin takes exit stage left as he did in the presser. But a huge part of me doesn't see him going. It's easy money for him with no accountability.
3C's
Footballguy
Agree on Weidl but he's a pretty hot commodity. Washington got their guy so that's 1 less place he could leave for.
As for Tomlin, he could make really good money doing TV for a year or 2 and that's a lot easier.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers FBGs:
Would you rather keep adding to this thread or create a new on for 2024?
Would you rather keep adding to this thread or create a new on for 2024?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I vote new one. Time to move forward
Grid71
Footballguy
Two thumbs up. Great snapshot heading into the offseason. Like the salary cap options but hope Cam sticks around. I think he stays for the money even if Tomlin decides to step down.
I believe Mason Rudolph is a must sign & be the highest paid QB on the roster. KP is a train wreck. We can't go into next season with an agenda that Pickett will be locked in as QB1.
Draft priorities - OT, C, ILB, CB, DL development, and Tory Taylor or Austin McNamara with 6th or 7th round pick. I want to add WR especially with a very talented draft class, but it hinges greatly on Steelers OC/playbook. If we are sticking with heavy doses of 13 and 12 personnel, a rookie had better be a Heinz Ward type to take over ARob's blocking WR role. There aren't enough passes to go around to satisfy Diontae, Pickens and a 3rd top end WR. Cal Austin is under rated.
Grid71
Footballguy
Mike Tomlin coming back to coach in 2024 per Mike Garafolo
Link to story
Link to story
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Well at least I'm already prepared mentally for 2024 if he returns in full control again.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Given where we are drafting, is center top priority for round 1. I assume the best tackles will be gone by then. Last time we drafted a center in the 20s, it kind of worked out well.
The top rated T's will be gone but I had heard this was a loaded class for OT's.
Dane Brugler dropped a two round mock today and I just checked it out and he has 8 players listed as either OT or OT/G going in round one, with 3 of them going ahead of where we pick. Also fwiw two players listed at G/C in round one. It's a good year to get some OL help.
Grid71
Footballguy
Hard to say due to positional value. Walkthemock and PFF don't have a center listed in the top 50. If that holds true, Steelers could take a top Corner or Right Tackle or QB round 1 and still have choice of the top C round 2. Chuks should be gone along with his cap hit. Big need to bring in a vet or draft a tackle.
Mock drafts have C falling to round 2 at the earliest, but JPJ is special. Could see him move up after the combine.
Jackson Powers-Johnson is my favorite by a mile. He's a nasty blocker. High motor. Aggressive. Athletic. Can pull and slide well. If Tomlin & Omar fall in love with the guy, could see Pittsburgh take him at 20 followed by inside LB in the 2nd. PFF rank 56 2nd round grade.
Sedrick Van Pran like alot about what I've seen so far. Another aggressive high-motor athlete. Gave up 1 sack as a Sophomore. Zero sacks, Zero QB hits as a Junior and Senior. PFF has him projected in the 4th round.
Zach Frazier haven't watched much film on him yet to offer an opinion. PFF likes him in late 2nd/early 3rd
Anyone have other top C to look at? I'll be studying film for fun to get a feel for prospects. I'm sure there are several guards out there who could slide to C.
Grid71
Footballguy
"In a team meeting today, Mike Tomlin told #Steelers players the speculation about him stepping away is unfounded and he plans on coaching the team in 2024, sources say."
Here is the quote from the link. Tomlin clearly intends to return at head coach of the Steelers next year. Big question outstanding is contract extension since he's in the final year of the existing contract.
I had referenced that 2 round mock draft that Dane Brugler put out today earlier.
He actually had JPJ going the pick right after the Steelers, at 21(had us taking Cooper DeJean). I don't really care much about his mock or most people's mocks, I don't think he studies NFL teams enough to know their needs, mainly look at mocks for listing of players.
Possible C's who showed up from that mock, which I'll link at the bottom.
Graham Barton who he has going pick 31 and lists him as G/C and mentions he was mainly a OT but think he'll move inside and be the top C on a few teams boards.
Zach Frazier who you mentioned he has going.....to us..... at pick 51.
That's all I saw that made his two round mock, which is here:https://theathletic.com/5203443/2024/01/16/nfl-mock-draft-2024-two-rounds-quarterbacks/
3C's
Footballguy
Exactly what I said. He "plans" on coaching. Plans is not the same as will. I plan to work until I'm 65 but I'm not sure that I will.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Rooney's plans trump Mike's, is all I think he's alluding to.
Not going anywhere, IMO.
Not going anywhere, IMO.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Kinda like with Bellichik and New England, the problem isn't Mike Tomlin on game day. It's...the other days.
3C's
Footballguy
Everything we're hearing is Rooney and the rest of the organization wants him back. Up to Tomlin it seems, if he wants to come back he'll be back. It'll be interesting though if he doesn't get an extension soon; the speculation will only increase. The cynic in me says his ego won't let him leave like this.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Essentially I agree, but also wonder if the ego would allow him to be a "lame duck" if the Rooneys decide to delay an extension.
I think theyre going to extend him and it wont matter, though.
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