*** San Francisco 49ers *** Kittle locked down til 2029; Purdy contract watch underway (6 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Lol, looks like I'm not the only one who didnt watch the draft.

See yall in September.

Haha yeah the gang was all there.

They drafted a whole *** defense this year. I thought they were cooking through 4, but 5-6 left me wanting for more.

Also in the 3rd they had Revel Jr slide to them and let the Cowboys get him. And it just came out that Mustapha tore his ACL in the finale last year, so…

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I would argue that despite the record amount of money spent on SF free agents, they haven't lost a player who played at an above-average level last year except now Jordan Mason. Only question now is whether they can replace/develop those losses with above-average young talent or if they'll dip from "below average" to "replacement level" next year.

I agree, with the exception of Greenlaw. While I like Mason’s game, I don’t see him as a great fit in a Shanny offense. But I really like Greenlaw and woulda liked to have seen him stay. That one stings.

 

[Wingnut]

Lol, looks like I'm not the only one who didnt watch the draft.

See yall in September.

It just came out that Mustapha tore his ACL in the finale last year, so… :confused

Lol, this team is f'n cursed.

I'm glad I remember the 1994 SB team cuz that's gonna end up being the last one in my lifetime.

Whatever, I'll watch the season as always but I have very little hope they'll ever win another.

Life as a 49er fan. It is what it is.

 

[thecatch]

I would argue that despite the record amount of money spent on SF free agents, they haven't lost a player who played at an above-average level last year except now Jordan Mason. Only question now is whether they can replace/develop those losses with above-average young talent or if they'll dip from "below average" to "replacement level" next year.

I agree, with the exception of Greenlaw. While I like Mason’s game, I don’t see him as a great fit in a Shanny offense. But I really like Greenlaw and woulda liked to have seen him stay. That one stings.

Agree but he played one half of football last year.

 

[thecatch]

Wouldn’t be stunned if they just drafted 5 guys who will start for them on defense this year. Not sure if they will be great picks or not, but they have great odds to start given the roster turnover.

 

[kface]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

 

[farfromforgotten]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

Seems like they want the defense to be the foundation of the team again. What would you have wanted them to do differently? Oline is the only thing I would have wished to be addressed at some point along the way during the draft.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

Seems like they want the defense to be the foundation of the team again. What would you have wanted them to do differently? Oline is the only thing I would have wished to be addressed at some point along the way during the draft.

They took a guard with their last pick, and I’m picturing the t’s & p’s meme “there, all better.”

 

[thecatch]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

Seems like they want the defense to be the foundation of the team again. What would you have wanted them to do differently? Oline is the only thing I would have wished to be addressed at some point along the way during the draft.

They took a guard with their last pick, and I’m picturing the t’s & p’s meme “there, all better.”

I'm not sure if there are any rotation-caliber OL free agents left, but if there are Lynch better be calling them.

 

[thecatch]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

If (big IF, of course, with draftees) these guys play to their scouting reports, the run defense will be 100% better this year if nothing else. That's significant.

 

[efactor]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

Seems like they want the defense to be the foundation of the team again. What would you have wanted them to do differently? Oline is the only thing I would have wished to be addressed at some point along the way during the draft.

Pretty spot on.

Really liked the approach overall. Agree with HSG (we discussed in the draft thread) that things went a bit south with the late 4th and early 5th round picks. Felt they should have addressed OL at that point instead of WR/RB. Marcus Mbow (G from Purdue) was still on the board and seemed a good fit. Miles Frazier as well. But WTF do I know? If Watkins or James hit, all forgiven. At this point in the draft, a lot of differing opinions.

Really liked that they doubled up at DT and chose different kinds of players. Collins a big body and West a bit smaller and more athletic. Both are supposed strong run defenders. Martin was a surprise pick mainly because I had no clue who he was but after reading the scouting reports, sounds like a Salah type player. Hair on fire kind of guy. Was hoping for Revel at that point too, but they really needed another LB.

Sucks about Mustafa. Get well quickly Malik.

 

[kface]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

If (big IF, of course, with draftees) these guys play to their scouting reports, the run defense will be 100% better this year if nothing else. That's significant.

It will be for sure but if they play like their scouting reports, we aren't going to have any pass rush, and our lbs and cbs/safeties are still pretty stinky

And this applies to all teams but only about 30% of draft picks hit

And I'm not saying the draft stinks just that its not really a needle mover. Seems like best case scenario is we have solid guys who rotate in and out

 

[thecatch]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

If (big IF, of course, with draftees) these guys play to their scouting reports, the run defense will be 100% better this year if nothing else. That's significant.

It will be for sure but if they play like their scouting reports, we aren't going to have any pass rush, and our lbs and cbs/safeties are still pretty stinky

And this applies to all teams but only about 30% of draft picks hit

And I'm not saying the draft stinks just that its not really a needle mover. Seems like best case scenario is we have solid guys who rotate in and out

They had an awful defense last year and they just injected a lot of young talent into it. There's very much the potential for a needle-moving draft.

 

[thecatch]

Reading about James this morning, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as the top backup this year. Seems like a great fit even if you could argue they should have stuck to drafting for the trenches at that point in the draft.

 

[efactor]

Reading about James this morning, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as the top backup this year. Seems like a great fit even if you could argue they should have stuck to drafting for the trenches at that point in the draft.

Agree

Guerendo has good size and is fast but doesn’t seem overly “shifty”. James seems more of a Shanahan type back. Plus if god forbid, CMC gets hurt again, having Taylor as the back up probably wasn’t real comforting for Kyle.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

One notion that came up when my friends and I were discussing the draft yesterday was how this draft actually helped Purdy.

Some contended that they failed to help the offense meaningfully.

I played devil’s advocate - if the defense is improved. If they can stop the run, and force some turnovers, or even turnovers on downs, then Purdy won’t have to be Superman every game, playing from behind or engaged in shootouts.

That’s a losing recipe for any team, even ones with top offenses.

So arguably by bolstering the defense— especially the run defense— they made major improvements. Of course the players they drafted have to deliver. A couple were considered slight reaches by some of those grading the draft, but I’ve read from a number of draft hawks that the players they landed are all high motor, high character players.

I’m optimistic that Saleh knows what he’s doing and can evaluate talent. They filled a lot of holes, and I’m excited to see the results.

I’d rather win games 24-13 than lose games 31-27

 

[kface]

Pretty harsh D grade from PFF (which is one of the more reliable out there).

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I like the attention given to the run D. Some of the picks may have been reaches for the league in general, but they're probably good-to-great fits for the 9ers specifically.

 

[efactor]

I like the attention given to the run D. Some of the picks may have been reaches for the league in general, but they're probably good-to-great fits for the 9ers specifically.

Teams evaluate players differently obviously. The draft pundits who claim virtually every pick was a reach or a steal make me laugh. Especially ones who still stick by their boards after their 3rd round draft crush fell to the 7th round or went undrafted.

 

[kface]

I like the attention given to the run D. Some of the picks may have been reaches for the league in general, but they're probably good-to-great fits for the 9ers specifically.

I won't believe what you say until you post it on your law blog

 

[drummer]

This draft had Saleh's fingers all over it. In the rounds where it counted as far as value. Jed York is pulling his uncle in choosing his own coordinator like Eddie did with Mooch, and even his fat *** could see where the 49ers have spent way too much money on Chokeshan's offense, and Jed's mama is pissed. They are another year from finding a QB who isn't tiny like Purdy, both Lynch and Chokeshan will be gone, and Saleh will take over as HC.

The Chokeshan era is over in SF.

 

[drummer]

Lol, looks like I'm not the only one who didnt watch the draft.

See yall in September.

Others watch the draft so we don't have to read your draft analysis.

 

[Wingnut]

I don't watch college and I've never analyzed a draft, but stalkers gonna stalk I guess.

 

[drummer]

One notion that came up when my friends and I were discussing the draft yesterday was how this draft actually helped Purdy.

Some contended that they failed to help the offense meaningfully.

I played devil’s advocate - if the defense is improved. If they can stop the run, and force some turnovers, or even turnovers on downs, then Purdy won’t have to be Superman every game, playing from behind or engaged in shootouts.

That’s a losing recipe for any team, even ones with top offenses.

So arguably by bolstering the defense— especially the run defense— they made major improvements. Of course the players they drafted have to deliver. A couple were considered slight reaches by some of those grading the draft, but I’ve read from a number of draft hawks that the players they landed are all high motor, high character players.

I’m optimistic that Saleh knows what he’s doing and can evaluate talent. They filled a lot of holes, and I’m excited to see the results.

I’d rather win games 24-13 than lose games 31-27

This was the draft where you had a lot of depth at EDGE, DT, LB, etc. EDGE and DT were picked all the way down to later rounds, the 49ers tore the Dline to the studs, and honestly, with Purdy's contract coming up, if you have to draft to help him be a better QB when you have holes elsewhere especially on defense, a defense that got gashed against the run, then you don't waste picks in the early rounds. A great defense made a Jimmy Garoppolo a starting QB. A bad defense makes a Jimmy Garoppolo have to compensate for it.

 

[drummer]

I don't watch college and I've never analyzed a draft, but stalkers gonna stalk I guess.

Nobody stalks a message board, but when you post a "retirement" post until the next season starts, and don't care about the draft on a football board, then I mean, stop playing the victim here. I spend months away from this place. But at least I keep up with the draft lol.

 

[drummer]

Certainly doesn't feel like the draft moved the dial at all on this team. Hopefully, some of these guys turn out to be solid starters, and I certainly agree they will all get a chance, but the team isn't much better for it. More solid, sure, but not much better.

Seems like they want the defense to be the foundation of the team again. What would you have wanted them to do differently? Oline is the only thing I would have wished to be addressed at some point along the way during the draft.

It was evident they were gonna go DT, EDGE, CB, and even more the first few rounds because they shed a lot of payroll and they drafted need first. When you draft need, it ain't as sexy because they really don't have as many holes outside of the DLine, and their run defense alone was pure *** last season. Jed brought Saleh back for a reason, and the first two days of the draft, it's all Saleh's. Which it should be, next years draft is gonna be rich on offense and skill positions. Draft Dline this draft, Oline the next. Then draft a QB who isn't tiny like they did in the 7th, but earlier.

 

[Wingnut]

I don't watch college and I've never analyzed a draft, but stalkers gonna stalk I guess.

Nobody stalks a message board

And yet here you are, quoting my post out of all the posts that you could've quoted. Why? Because you're obsessed with me.

Get a ****ing life, dude.

 

[efactor]

I don't watch college and I've never analyzed a draft, but stalkers gonna stalk I guess.

Nobody stalks a message board

And yet here you are, quoting my post out of all the posts that you could've quoted. Why? Because you're obsessed with me.

Get a ****ing life, dude.

Interesting. This isn't the first time you have accused posters of being "obsessed" with you.

It's a message board. Don't flatter yourself. Nobody is obsessed with you

 

[Wingnut]

I don't watch college and I've never analyzed a draft, but stalkers gonna stalk I guess.

Nobody stalks a message board

And yet here you are, quoting my post out of all the posts that you could've quoted. Why? Because you're obsessed with me.

Get a ****ing life, dude.

Interesting. This isn't the first time you have accused posters of being "obsessed" with you.

It's a message board. Don't flatter yourself. Nobody is obsessed with you

Like I care what you think.

 

[drummer]

I don't watch college and I've never analyzed a draft, but stalkers gonna stalk I guess.

Nobody stalks a message board

And yet here you are, quoting my post out of all the posts that you could've quoted. Why? Because you're obsessed with me.

Get a ****ing life, dude.

Interesting. This isn't the first time you have accused posters of being "obsessed" with you.

It's a message board. Don't flatter yourself. Nobody is obsessed with you

Like I care what you think.

Hey look who is back after a a very short vacation from his own thread.

 

[drummer]

I don't watch college and I've never analyzed a draft, but stalkers gonna stalk I guess.

Nobody stalks a message board

And yet here you are, quoting my post out of all the posts that you could've quoted. Why? Because you're obsessed with me.

Get a ****ing life, dude.

You realize that the best feature of any social media platform is to use a quote from a post, don't you? That's how thread and conversation happens. I mean if we can quote Joe Bryant here - who has been posting a lot more threads here than back say ten years ago, hell even when I first joined in 2006 - I just always call out, or agree with one, and credit the person who posted it. This is how the internet works lol. And guess what? You now used the quote function. When you used to tell everyone not to quote me in your threads because I dunno, you just wanted these threads for yourself.