What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

2024-25 NBA Thread: Stephen A leading ESPN’s draft coverage by yelling about players he’s never heard of until now (175 Viewers)

the moops said:
Major said:
Trust the process. You guys will surely be contenders again in the early 2030s
Click to expand...
Weird take.

Contenders from 2007/2008 until 2011/2012

Sucked in 2012/2013.

First round exits in2013/2014 and 2014/2015.

Been contenders ever since (minus one down year 2021/2022)

So by their process, they should be contenders again by 2028/2029 at the latest
Click to expand...
I wonder how much that 2028 1st round swap with the Spurs is to Brad.
 
Zow said:
Can someone summarize the Ace Bailey issue in a few sentences? I haven't really paid attention but it seems like he's intentionally snubbing teams to force a fall?
Click to expand...
I forget which contributer on WIP in Philadelphia said it; but he felt that Baily was an 18 year old with a first time agent who has no other clients who didn't really understand how this thing goes. He was openly advocating for PHI to take him because he felt this "controversy" was a bit of a non-issue.
 
  • Thanks
Reactions: Zow
Mister CIA said:
the moops said:
Major said:
Trust the process. You guys will surely be contenders again in the early 2030s
Click to expand...
Weird take.

Contenders from 2007/2008 until 2011/2012

Sucked in 2012/2013.

First round exits in2013/2014 and 2014/2015.

Been contenders ever since (minus one down year 2021/2022)

So by their process, they should be contenders again by 2028/2029 at the latest
Click to expand...
I wonder how much that 2028 1st round swap with the Spurs is to Brad.
Click to expand...
If they stand pat, a Tatum + Brown core is probably an even bet to be as good as 2028 Spurs. I doubt he is sweating that swap
 
Zow said:
Can someone summarize the Ace Bailey issue in a few sentences? I haven't really paid attention but it seems like he's intentionally snubbing teams to force a fall?
Click to expand...
Sounds like he is a good kid (only 18), very talented scorer with lots of upside who needs the ball to be effective. Inexperienced agent is seemingly trying to land him in a spot with a good fit where he can develop and get more usage - which is rubbing some people the wrong way (they cancelled his Philly workout at the last minute).

He hasn’t had any official workouts with anyone, so some are guessing he has a promise from someone (Brooklyn?). He had no issues in any interviews I’m aware of and hasn’t stated he didn’t want to play for any specific teams, but it seems people are wary of this being a Shadeur Sanders situation where the agent is trying to drive him somewhere specific.
 
  • Thanks
Reactions: Zow
Yo Mama said:
Zow said:
Can someone summarize the Ace Bailey issue in a few sentences? I haven't really paid attention but it seems like he's intentionally snubbing teams to force a fall?
Click to expand...
Sounds like he is a good kid (only 18), very talented scorer with lots of upside who needs the ball to be effective. Inexperienced agent is seemingly trying to land him in a spot with a good fit where he can develop and get more usage - which is rubbing some people the wrong way (they cancelled his Philly workout at the last minute).

He hasn’t had any official workouts with anyone, so some are guessing he has a promise from someone (Brooklyn?). He had no issues in any interviews I’m aware of and hasn’t stated he didn’t want to play for any specific teams, but it seems people are wary of this being a Shadeur Sanders situation where the agent is trying to drive him somewhere specific.
Click to expand...
It's worth noting that, minor difference from football, he's had NBA scouts from all these teams see him like 30+ times by coming to Rutgers practices and/or games.

We had team personnel at practices pretty regularly when we didn't even have any likely lottery picks - I'm pretty sure a ton of Rutgers practices had NBA personnel there.

Then from an NBA perspective, the media focus on the workouts is kind of dumb. The thing that really matters from when I worked with a team on their draft process was all mental makeup. It was our fit interview, focused on personality and basketball IQ and quite frankly just the willingness to go through it because they wanted to be there. We didn't put much stock into whether one guy shot 4% better from three in our building that day when the other four guys shot as good or better over a game sample in college.
 
Yo Mama said:
Desert_Power said:
the moops said:
Adam Beverly
@AdamBeverlyESPN


Breaking: the Atlanta Hawks are seriously targeting the #3 pick from the 76ers. Atlanta and Philadelphia are discussing a Paul George and the #3 pick to Atlanta
Click to expand...
For Trae?
Click to expand...
Yeah I’m curious how Atlanta makes this work financially. Maybe @General Malaise can help figure this one out.
Click to expand...

I think the only way to make it work financially is to send either Trae or (Porzingis + ~14M) in salary back.
 
mr. furley said:
someone ask ChatGPT to build an NBA trade and let's see if it's more or less ridiculous than an actual NBA trade in 2025
Click to expand...
Me: As of june 25 2025, what would be an exciting, but plausible nba trade that you can dream up?

ChatGPT said:​

Here’s one that’s both plausible and spicy as of June 25, 2025 — with a mix of cap mechanics, team motivations, and narrative drama:

BLOCKBUSTER TRADE​

Golden State Warriors & Cleveland Cavaliers

Golden State receives:​

  • Donovan Mitchell
  • Isaac Okoro
  • 2026 2nd-round pick (via SAS)

Cleveland receives:​

  • Jonathan Kuminga
  • Brandin Podziemski
  • Moses Moody
  • 2026 1st-round pick (top-8 protected)
  • 2028 1st-round pick (unprotected)

🔥 Why this makes sense:​

Golden State’s perspective:​

  • They’re trying to extend the Steph Curry window and can’t waste another year developing youth.
  • Donovan Mitchell gives them a legit #2 scoring option and a jolt of athleticism and shot creation.
  • Okoro provides defensive wing depth to replace Moody/Kuminga.
  • With Draymond and Steph aging, a 3-guard lineup (Steph–Donovan–Klay off-ball) brings offensive firepower to compete now.

Cleveland’s perspective:​

  • Mitchell has not signed an extension and is heavily rumored to want a bigger market.
  • They recoup major value before losing him for nothing.
  • Kuminga gives them a high-upside forward to pair with Evan Mobley, who’s now the franchise cornerstone.
  • Podziemski and Moody offer upside and shooting depth.
  • Two first-round picks provide ammo for future moves or a soft reset.
 
Prompt: “Create an nba trade between the lakers and Celtics for the 2025-2026 season including Derrick white”

Sure! Here’s a realistic NBA trade scenario between the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics for the 2025–2026 season involving Derrick White.

🏀​

🔁​

  • Derrick White (SG/PG)
  • 2026 Second-Round Pick (via BOS)

🔁​

  • Austin Reaves (SG/SF)
  • Jalen Hood-Schifino (PG)
  • 2027 First-Round Pick (Top-10 Protected)

📊​

✅​

  • Derrick White provides elite defense, playoff experience, and reliable shooting—a perfect fit alongside LeBron (if still active) and/or Anthony Davis.
  • White can serve as a veteran leader and stabilizer, especially if the Lakers aim to contend short-term.
  • Offloading Hood-Schifino makes sense if he hasn’t developed significantly by 2025.

✅​

  • Austin Reaves offers versatile shot creation and a better long-term fit for a post-Jrue/Derrick White backcourt.
  • Jalen Hood-Schifino is a developmental piece who can learn under the Celtics' system.
  • The protected first gives them future flexibility in a year where aging contracts (e.g., Horford or Jrue if extended) may open cap.

💸​

  • Derrick White will be in the final year of his extension (~$18–20M).
  • Austin Reaves will be in year 3 of his 4-year deal (~$13M–$14M).
  • Hood-Schifino will be on a rookie-scale contract.
  • Salaries should match with small filler or trade exceptions if needed.


Yo Mama’s grade: 1/10 - salaries don’t work, lakers can’t trade 2027 pick, JHS no longer on lakers, contract info from last year. Other than that, sounds good.
 
zoobird said:
mr. furley said:
someone ask ChatGPT to build an NBA trade and let's see if it's more or less ridiculous than an actual NBA trade in 2025
Click to expand...
Me: As of june 25 2025, what would be an exciting, but plausible nba trade that you can dream up?

ChatGPT said:​

Here’s one that’s both plausible and spicy as of June 25, 2025 — with a mix of cap mechanics, team motivations, and narrative drama:

BLOCKBUSTER TRADE​

Golden State Warriors & Cleveland Cavaliers

Golden State receives:​

  • Donovan Mitchell
  • Isaac Okoro
  • 2026 2nd-round pick (via SAS)

Cleveland receives:​

  • Jonathan Kuminga
  • Brandin Podziemski
  • Moses Moody
  • 2026 1st-round pick (top-8 protected)
  • 2028 1st-round pick (unprotected)

🔥 Why this makes sense:​

Golden State’s perspective:​

  • They’re trying to extend the Steph Curry window and can’t waste another year developing youth.
  • Donovan Mitchell gives them a legit #2 scoring option and a jolt of athleticism and shot creation.
  • Okoro provides defensive wing depth to replace Moody/Kuminga.
  • With Draymond and Steph aging, a 3-guard lineup (Steph–Donovan–Klay off-ball) brings offensive firepower to compete now.

Cleveland’s perspective:​

  • Mitchell has not signed an extension and is heavily rumored to want a bigger market.
  • They recoup major value before losing him for nothing.
  • Kuminga gives them a high-upside forward to pair with Evan Mobley, who’s now the franchise cornerstone.
  • Podziemski and Moody offer upside and shooting depth.
  • Two first-round picks provide ammo for future moves or a soft reset.
Click to expand...

Looks like ye olde GPT is a little behind the times with Klay as part of the GS's offensive plan
 
Here is Chat GPT's version of Atlanta getting Paul George and the 1.03


Proposed Trade:​


📍Atlanta Hawks Receive:


  • Paul George (via sign-and-trade, 4 years / ~$200M)
  • 2025 NBA Draft – Pick #3 (assumed acquired by PHI from another team like Houston or via trade-down by WAS)

📍Philadelphia 76ers Receive:


  • Dejounte Murray (4 years / $120M extension kicks in)
  • De'Andre Hunter
  • AJ Griffin
  • 2025 1st-Round Pick (via SAC – lottery protected)
  • 2026 2nd-Round Pick (via CHA)


💰​


  • Paul George S&T: ~$50M starting salary
  • Dejounte Murray: $25.5M (2024-25)
  • Hunter: $21.6M
  • Griffin: $3.9M
    → Outgoing from ATL: ~$51M – matches PG’s salary
 
As somebody who now gets a ton of ChatGPT ******** from clients, pro se litigants, or incompetent opposing counsels that I have to waste time on by explaining to the users that ChatGPT isn't there yet, ya'll posting these nonsense trades are doing the Lord's work here!
 
Zow said:
As somebody who now gets a ton of ChatGPT ******** from clients, pro se litigants, or incompetent opposing counsels that I have to waste time on by explaining to the users that ChatGPT isn't there yet, ya'll posting these nonsense trades are doing the Lord's work here!
Click to expand...

That or when AI does take over they are going to brainwash into thinking we are living in the past. So stupid it might just work!
 
zoobird said:
mr. furley said:
someone ask ChatGPT to build an NBA trade and let's see if it's more or less ridiculous than an actual NBA trade in 2025
Click to expand...
Me: As of june 25 2025, what would be an exciting, but plausible nba trade that you can dream up?

ChatGPT said:​

Here’s one that’s both plausible and spicy as of June 25, 2025 — with a mix of cap mechanics, team motivations, and narrative drama:

BLOCKBUSTER TRADE​

Golden State Warriors & Cleveland Cavaliers

Golden State receives:​

  • Donovan Mitchell
  • Isaac Okoro
  • 2026 2nd-round pick (via SAS)

Cleveland receives:​

  • Jonathan Kuminga
  • Brandin Podziemski
  • Moses Moody
  • 2026 1st-round pick (top-8 protected)
  • 2028 1st-round pick (unprotected)

🔥 Why this makes sense:​

Golden State’s perspective:​

  • They’re trying to extend the Steph Curry window and can’t waste another year developing youth.
  • Donovan Mitchell gives them a legit #2 scoring option and a jolt of athleticism and shot creation.
  • Okoro provides defensive wing depth to replace Moody/Kuminga.
  • With Draymond and Steph aging, a 3-guard lineup (Steph–Donovan–Klay off-ball) brings offensive firepower to compete now.

Cleveland’s perspective:​

  • Mitchell has not signed an extension and is heavily rumored to want a bigger market.
  • They recoup major value before losing him for nothing.
  • Kuminga gives them a high-upside forward to pair with Evan Mobley, who’s now the franchise cornerstone.
  • Podziemski and Moody offer upside and shooting depth.
  • Two first-round picks provide ammo for future moves or a soft reset.
Click to expand...
There is no way this works. Kuminga is a RFA with base year compensation salary matching rules. Golden State isn’t sending enough salary back.
 
msudaisy26 said:
Zow said:
As somebody who now gets a ton of ChatGPT ******** from clients, pro se litigants, or incompetent opposing counsels that I have to waste time on by explaining to the users that ChatGPT isn't there yet, ya'll posting these nonsense trades are doing the Lord's work here!
Click to expand...

That or when AI does take over they are going to brainwash into thinking we are living in the past. So stupid it might just work!
Click to expand...
In the past like, say, 1995 or so? And the only way we might know it is through deja vu? And maybe we can learn to manipulate said past?

Sounds like a great movie plot, eh @General Malaise ?
 
Moe. said:
Are you plebes using the free version?
Click to expand...
Me: Am I a plebe for using the free version?

ChatGPT said:​

Not at all — using the free version doesn't make you a plebe in any meaningful sense. It's smart to use what works for your needs, especially when the free tier still gives you access to a powerful model (GPT-3.5). Many people get a ton done without ever needing to upgrade.

If you’re ever curious about what the paid plans offer (like access to GPT-4o, faster responses, image understanding, or file uploads), you can check them out. But there’s no shame in sticking with the free tools. It's like using a bike instead of a car — if it gets you where you need to go, you're doing it right.
 
Zow said:
msudaisy26 said:
Zow said:
As somebody who now gets a ton of ChatGPT ******** from clients, pro se litigants, or incompetent opposing counsels that I have to waste time on by explaining to the users that ChatGPT isn't there yet, ya'll posting these nonsense trades are doing the Lord's work here!
Click to expand...

That or when AI does take over they are going to brainwash into thinking we are living in the past. So stupid it might just work!
Click to expand...
In the past like, say, 1995 or so? And the only way we might know it is through deja vu? And maybe we can learn to manipulate said past?

Sounds like a great movie plot, eh @General Malaise ?
Click to expand...

Better than Interstellar for sure.
 
msudaisy26 said:
Zow said:
As somebody who now gets a ton of ChatGPT ******** from clients, pro se litigants, or incompetent opposing counsels that I have to waste time on by explaining to the users that ChatGPT isn't there yet, ya'll posting these nonsense trades are doing the Lord's work here!
Click to expand...

That or when AI does take over they are going to brainwash into thinking we are living in the past. So stupid it might just work!
Click to expand...

If Chat GPT can't figure out how the NBA salary cap works, I don't feel nearly as bad for giving up trying to understand it years ago.
 
Players I like less than the consensus: Tre Johnson, Egor Demin, Collin Murray-Boyles, Nique Clifford

Players I like more than the consensus: Cedric Coward, Carter Bryant, Walter Clayton, Rasheer Fleming
 
Small trade.

ESPN’s Shams Charania reports the Pacers have acquired the 38th pick in the 2025 NBA Draft from the Spurs in exchange for a future second-round pick and cash considerations.
 
Juxtatarot said:
scoobus said:
Players I like less than the consensus: Tre Johnson, Egor Demin, Collin Murray-Boyles, Nique Clifford

Players I like more than the consensus: Cedric Coward, Carter Bryant, Walter Clayton, Rasheer Fleming
Click to expand...
i really like Murray-Bowles. What besides his shooting don’t you like?
Click to expand...
Obviously the shooting is the big thing, and he's a bit undersized (although a massive wingspan). We've had so many people who are "the next Draymond," very hard to replicate everything that makes him great, and he himself wasn't taken until the second round. Basically just a bet against an undersized big who can't shoot going this early.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Quint
LG OLED TV - Never Again (a rant) *Update & Resolution Added*
Replies
49
Views
2K
Ilov80s
Ilov80s
Charlie Steiner
***Official*** FBG Storytellers Thread
Replies
30
Views
2K
psychobillies
psychobillies
scorchy
101 Best Songs of 1986 vs 1996: #1 There Is A Light That Never Goes Out - The Smiths / A Long December - Counting Crows
12 13 14
Replies
698
Views
31K
Drunken knight
Drunken knight

Users who are viewing this thread

  • ... and 1 more.
    • Total: 64 (members: 3, guests: 61)
    Back
    Top