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Didn’t a 40-something Tom Brady just win one last year?A mobile QB certainly helps. There’s still room for other QBs though IMO. We aren’t that far removed from the ghost of Peyton Manning winning a SB.
Didn’t a 40-something Tom Brady just win one last year?A mobile QB certainly helps. There’s still room for other QBs though IMO. We aren’t that far removed from the ghost of Peyton Manning winning a SB.
The convo I think wasn’t just about mobile QBs but also that it takes a true elite QB to win it all. Manning was pretty rough the year he won it. I’m not ready to say Brady wasn’t still playing top shelf football last year.Didn’t a 40-something Tom Brady just win one last year?
Green Bay looks like they are giving it to them so far. But fear not, lions 2nd half defense may still come to the rescue.Of course they will win this game...
*shrug* most fans are okay with the loss. Go skins!Lions are going to f the fans anyway they can.
Was there ever really any doubt?fear not, lions 2nd half defense may still come to the rescue.
I would hope defense in the first round. But we all know not to expect anything normal from this team.2nd half:
Lions 24 plays, 51 total yards
Packers 57 plays, 296 total yards
116 days until the NFL Draft
That's what I mean. A win would have been meaningless. In the end the Redskins made it meaningless anyway.*shrug* most fans are okay with the loss. Go skins!
I think the ‘skins would be open to trading back. I like Chase Young by a good margin over Derrick Brown. But what do I know, I thought Ed Oliver this year & we took Hock.I would hope defense in the first round. But we all know not to expect anything normal from this team.
I found the best case mock draft but I'm not holding my breath.Think I basically watched red zone since the Packers loss. Just couldn’t be bothered investing anymore into it this year. Gotta hope somebody trades up to 2 for a qb and we get Chase Young. The O should look after itself next year, maybe we get a new D coordinator in, couple of high draft picks, the D stays healthier and we have cap room to do some things so theres still hope we can be good next year but I’m not holding my breath for it
I'm guessing Matt will try to add something himself to the equation. Nothing would help his rep more than to escape the current theme of being a defense guy at head coach that had a horrible D this year.Bonamego is gone, as are the strength coaches, Al Golden, and a few others. Baffled as to why they brought Pasqualoni back, because that defense was beyond awful.
The defense did improve when Matt started calling plays.I'm guessing Matt will try to add something himself to the equation. Nothing would help his rep more than to escape the current theme of being a defense guy at head coach that had a horrible D this year.
64 yards allowed from being the worst defense in franchise history.Bonamego is gone, as are the strength coaches, Al Golden, and a few others. Baffled as to why they brought Pasqualoni back, because that defense was beyond awful.
Slay is overrated the last couple of years imo. Let someone else pay for his declining production.I think the ‘skins would be open to trading back. I like Chase Young by a good margin over Derrick Brown. But what do I know, I thought Ed Oliver this year & we took Hock.
(He’s VG & I think he’ll continue to develop into a top 5 TE, but from a wholistic view I don’t get ever spending that kind of draft capital on the position.)
I’ve lost faith in Quinn; trading Diggs was the last straw for me. We’re already hearing rumblings Slay isn’t a an ideal fit, and it’s clear to me he won’t be finishing his contract next year. He’s the best cover corner in the division - these guys got something against talent?
They keep using the excuse they’re building the foundation & discarding players that don’t fit their scheme, but we haven’t seen much evidence he and Patricia are good talent evaluators on the defensive side.
This is Bob Quinn’s fifth offseason. Doesn’t even remotely feel like he and Patricia are building towards something. I’m not saying I wish we had owners like the Haslam’s (6 HC including interims since 2012) but I don’t think either is being brought back on merit.
I’ve always been relatively optimistic in this team thread & chastened people for defeatist attitudes (SOL, etc.) I have absolutely no hope for 2020. Watched less football in 2019 since my first 3 years in NYC - I was working a ton of hours 1999-2001 - and might resign from the FF league I have commissioned for 25 years. The phantom calls on Trey Flowers ruined the season for me & I just can’t see being emotionally invested in the team anymore.
They don’t know have a clue.
If they plan on drafting the Ohio State CB at #3, I think Slay is gone for sure.Slay is overrated the last couple of years imo. Let someone else pay for his declining production.
This pleases me. Time for new blood.Pasqualoni and the OL line coach stepped down.
So was Pasqualoni Patricia's guy or what? Feels like this is Matty P reloading for one last shot; if he doesn't turn things around he's probably not making it to the end of 2020.Pasqualoni and the OL line coach stepped down.
Him and the GM also. Not all of this can be pinned on the HC.So was Pasqualoni Patricia's guy or what? Feels like this is Matty P reloading for one last shot; if he doesn't turn things around he's probably not making it to the end of 2020.
Definitely. MP and Quinn are Thelma and Louise, holding hands as they get ready to drive over the cliff.Him and the GM also. Not all of this can be pinned on the HC.
The DL had injuries but heading into the season, many experts speculated Detroit had the most talented DL in the NFL. I also don’t think Patricia likes to blitz. That’s not his style. He also doesn’t like speedy edge rushers. He likes his DEs and LBs to be really big. I don’t think guys like Devin Bush, Harold Landry or Brian Burns were ever on the Lions radar.Lions seemed to use more 3 man rushes than I thought normal. If true was that due to scheme or lack of DL talent?
Also one of the Detroit newspapers talked about Patricia's preference for man to man pass D as a scheme and its effect on INTs and lack of turnovers.
Pasqualoni was absolutely Patricia’s guy. He mentored Patricia early in his career.So was Pasqualoni Patricia's guy or what? Feels like this is Matty P reloading for one last shot; if he doesn't turn things around he's probably not making it to the end of 2020.
Robinson v QuinnShould have hired Vrabel
Exactly- Patricia was always going to be the coach Quinn wanted.Robinson v Quinn
Robinson had a rapport with Vrabel from their Patriots days, same with the Lions GM/HC
Should have hired RobinsonRobinson v Quinn
Robinson had a rapport with Vrabel from their Patriots days, same with the Lions GM/HC
valenti did a radio bit on what tennessee did vs the lions...almost erieely similar between their moves.....Should have hired Vrabel
Good point. I also wonder if Patricia does the thing where he doesn't hire assistants with previous head-coaching experience in order to make it less likely he will be fired mid-season. Although I suppose Bevel has been around long enough that he would probably get the gig.So was thinking Lions may have trouble hiring quality assistants due to the "playoff contender" mandate delivered by Martha. If team fails next year the whole ship goes down.
Of course playoff contender to the Fords may mean 7-9 or 8-8, if team is in contention as late as the last 4 games of the season.
It will be interesting to see who is hired and the length of their contract.
The Lions had 6 chances to get him in 2000.Foosball God said:So when do we sign Brady?