Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
2024 Detroit Crimson Tide..Roll Lions: Draft day! (12 Viewers)
- Thread starter Da Guru
- Start date
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Too slight. 175 pounds at 6'2" with short arms makes me worried he's going to get bullied in the league.
Last edited:
Ilov80s
Footballguy
For those interested in my pick for the Lions in our FBG Mock exercise
Here’s the link to my pick
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/fbg-mock-draft.812151/post-24892335
Here’s the link to my pick
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/fbg-mock-draft.812151/post-24892335
Ilov80s
Footballguy
What did people think of the Kool Aid pick? There was 1 guy I was debating with who I won’t mention in case he slips into range where I can trade up for him. ETA; nevermind Graham Barton OL from Duke just went and he was the other guy I was looking at.
I actually think KAM and DeJean could be the top 2 CBs on the Lions board. Cooper because of his versatility and KAM because of his press man prowess (plus we know Holmes loves those two programs). Arnold is more athlete than finished project right now. Wiggins isn’t physical. Mitchell doesn’t do press man.
I actually think KAM and DeJean could be the top 2 CBs on the Lions board. Cooper because of his versatility and KAM because of his press man prowess (plus we know Holmes loves those two programs). Arnold is more athlete than finished project right now. Wiggins isn’t physical. Mitchell doesn’t do press man.
Outside of 1 story that I read that Kool Aid might have an attitude problem (which might be nothing), it seems like a great fit and good value for 29. I'm pretty sure I would have made the same pick.
DJ Chark would fill the role well, but I suspect that he still sees himself as filling more than the Josh Reynolds role
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Oh yeah, he is still out there. So is Tyler Boyd but I am sure he's looking for more money than the Lions plan to spend on a 5th-6th option for the offense.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Best Remaining Wide Receiver Free Agents, 2024:
- Tyler Boyd
- Odell Beckham Jr.
- Michael Thomas
- Hunter Renfrow
- Mecole Hardman
- Marquez Valdes-Scantling
- Michael Gallup
- Corey Davis
- Julio Jones
- D.J. Chark
- Russell Gage
- Allen Robinson
- Deonte Harty
- Olamide Zaccheaus
- Alex Erickson
- Lynn Bowden
- Scotty Miller
- Jalen Guyton
- Randall Cobb
- Equanimeous St. Brown
- Chase Claypool
- Sterling Shepard
- Robbie Chosen
- Richie James
- Laviska Shenault
- Tyler Johnson
- Jakeem Grant
kutta
Footballguy
I thought OBJ signed with Miami.Best Remaining Wide Receiver Free Agents, 2024:
- Tyler Boyd
- Odell Beckham Jr.
- Michael Thomas
- Hunter Renfrow
- Mecole Hardman
- Marquez Valdes-Scantling
- Michael Gallup
- Corey Davis
- Julio Jones
- D.J. Chark
- Russell Gage
- Allen Robinson
- Deonte Harty
- Olamide Zaccheaus
- Alex Erickson
- Lynn Bowden
- Scotty Miller
- Jalen Guyton
- Randall Cobb
- Equanimeous St. Brown
- Chase Claypool
- Sterling Shepard
- Robbie Chosen
- Richie James
- Laviska Shenault
- Tyler Johnson
- Jakeem Grant
That’s an uninspiring list…
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
He just traded our 61 & 73 for 37. My chart says Brad Junior "won" 530-517.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
For those playing at home, the first 3 rounds of the draft netted Kool Aid, IOL Zach Frazier and the trade for CB Davis. Not bad.
Hopefully the old man will listen to junior.
2 years, $14 million. More than I would pay.
Foosball God
Foos
I wouldn't mind Renfrow
Gallup, Chark, or maybe MVS. That's about all I see on there that would fill the opening we have at the X. None of it is ideal... that list is a lot of slot guys, guys who play off the line, and guys who are probably on their way out of the league.Best Remaining Wide Receiver Free Agents, 2024:
- Tyler Boyd
- Odell Beckham Jr.
- Michael Thomas
- Hunter Renfrow
- Mecole Hardman
- Marquez Valdes-Scantling
- Michael Gallup
- Corey Davis
- Julio Jones
- D.J. Chark
- Russell Gage
- Allen Robinson
- Deonte Harty
- Olamide Zaccheaus
- Alex Erickson
- Lynn Bowden
- Scotty Miller
- Jalen Guyton
- Randall Cobb
- Equanimeous St. Brown
- Chase Claypool
- Sterling Shepard
- Robbie Chosen
- Richie James
- Laviska Shenault
- Tyler Johnson
- Jakeem Grant
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I prefer bringing Chark back as at least there is some familiarity with the offense and Goff. I have no interest in MVS as there is a reason he was rarely targeted by the best QB in the game and a team that desperately needed a receiver to step up. Gallup is someone who I thought had promise but am not sure if he ever was the same after injury as last year was pretty unspectacular, however he would be my second choice. We will add to that position in the draft, just depends on when.If they are really unsure about Jamo it could be as early as round one.Gallup, Chark, or maybe MVS. That's about all I see on there that would fill the opening we have at the X. None of it is ideal... that list is a lot of slot guys, guys who play off the line, and guys who are probably on their way out of the league.Best Remaining Wide Receiver Free Agents, 2024:
- Tyler Boyd
- Odell Beckham Jr.
- Michael Thomas
- Hunter Renfrow
- Mecole Hardman
- Marquez Valdes-Scantling
- Michael Gallup
- Corey Davis
- Julio Jones
- D.J. Chark
- Russell Gage
- Allen Robinson
- Deonte Harty
- Olamide Zaccheaus
- Alex Erickson
- Lynn Bowden
- Scotty Miller
- Jalen Guyton
- Randall Cobb
- Equanimeous St. Brown
- Chase Claypool
- Sterling Shepard
- Robbie Chosen
- Richie James
- Laviska Shenault
- Tyler Johnson
- Jakeem Grant
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Problem with Gallup and MVS is they are so unreliable and mostly just downfield targets. I don’t think either can be relied on to do what Reynolds did.Gallup, Chark, or maybe MVS. That's about all I see on there that would fill the opening we have at the X. None of it is ideal... that list is a lot of slot guys, guys who play off the line, and guys who are probably on their way out of the league.Best Remaining Wide Receiver Free Agents, 2024:
- Tyler Boyd
- Odell Beckham Jr.
- Michael Thomas
- Hunter Renfrow
- Mecole Hardman
- Marquez Valdes-Scantling
- Michael Gallup
- Corey Davis
- Julio Jones
- D.J. Chark
- Russell Gage
- Allen Robinson
- Deonte Harty
- Olamide Zaccheaus
- Alex Erickson
- Lynn Bowden
- Scotty Miller
- Jalen Guyton
- Randall Cobb
- Equanimeous St. Brown
- Chase Claypool
- Sterling Shepard
- Robbie Chosen
- Richie James
- Laviska Shenault
- Tyler Johnson
- Jakeem Grant
Oh, I agree for sure. They were just the best of the bad, I thought. The opening we have is for an on the line X (split end). ARSB should stay in the slot, Jamo should be off the line (flanker)... so they need a big body who can line up on the line. With what is available, we won't be replacing what Reynolds gave us... which is a bummer. He was a really clutch receiver for us the last 2 years. At this point they just need to find who can best drag DB's downfield and make a play here and there.
Problem with Gallup and MVS is they are so unreliable and mostly just downfield targets. I don’t think either can be relied on to do what Reynolds did.Gallup, Chark, or maybe MVS. That's about all I see on there that would fill the opening we have at the X. None of it is ideal... that list is a lot of slot guys, guys who play off the line, and guys who are probably on their way out of the league.Best Remaining Wide Receiver Free Agents, 2024:
- Tyler Boyd
- Odell Beckham Jr.
- Michael Thomas
- Hunter Renfrow
- Mecole Hardman
- Marquez Valdes-Scantling
- Michael Gallup
- Corey Davis
- Julio Jones
- D.J. Chark
- Russell Gage
- Allen Robinson
- Deonte Harty
- Olamide Zaccheaus
- Alex Erickson
- Lynn Bowden
- Scotty Miller
- Jalen Guyton
- Randall Cobb
- Equanimeous St. Brown
- Chase Claypool
- Sterling Shepard
- Robbie Chosen
- Richie James
- Laviska Shenault
- Tyler Johnson
- Jakeem Grant
Gruden's Keyboard
Footballguy
A room full of studs and elite football minds. If I were a player, I'd want to play for this team
youtu.be
Behind the Scenes: Sam Laporta's NFL Combine Interview
Watch an excerpt from TE Sam Laporta's interview with the Detroit Lions at the 2023 NFL Scouting Combine. Subscribe to the Lions YT Channel: https://bit.ly/...
youtu.be
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Interesting decision they have. I wonder if they want to wait out for someone else or maybe even draft a #2 TE. 49er fans seem to like the signing.
Gruden's Keyboard
Footballguy
I trust Detroit's talent evaluators to replace a #2 TE
My gut says they match.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
You are probably right. Not a huge contract and he seems to be their type of player. If they got a compensation pick maybe it would be different but there isn't a lot of upside in letting him go.
Here are the terms:
2024: $1.5M salary (all guaranteed), $1.5M signing bonus proration: $3M cap hit
2025: $2M salary, $1.5M signing bonus proration: $3.5M cap hit
2026: $4M salary, $1.5M signing bonus proration: $5.5M cap hit ($1.5M in dead cap if cut)
Unless the Lions want to go a different way and find someone who is more versatile. They still have the option to cut in year three and save $4 million. I suppose it is possible the Lions still have hope thst James Mitchell might step up. I am about 50/50.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Reynolds deal is essentially 1 year 4.5 million, easy to cut him into year 2 and a lot of incentives.
Kind of wish the Lions would have kept him around for that.
Kind of wish the Lions would have kept him around for that.
Snoopy
Footballguy
He turned himself in tonight.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
A professional kicker made a 64-yard field goal inside Ford Field on Saturday. No, he doesn't play for the Detroit Lions.
But that could be changing...
Michigan Panthers kicker Jake Bates boomed a 64-yarder game-winner with room to spare in the team's victory over the St. Louis Battlehawks in the opening weekend of UFL competition.
The Detroit Lions have already reached out to Bates.
But that could be changing...
Michigan Panthers kicker Jake Bates boomed a 64-yarder game-winner with room to spare in the team's victory over the St. Louis Battlehawks in the opening weekend of UFL competition.
The Detroit Lions have already reached out to Bates.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
What's interesting is that he actually made two in row from 64. The first was iced by a timeout.
That said, per lionswire::
"it’s the first field goal attempt for Bates since high school. He was a kickoff specialist at Arkansas and Texas State before winning the job with the Panthers. He started his college career as a soccer player at Central Arkansas.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Late bloomer!!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Vote
Since March 19, NFL on Fox has been running a fan poll for the best current head coach in the league.
MCDC has reached the finals; going up against Andy Reid.
Previous rounds in the bracket:
r/NFL (Reddit) has been on absolute meltdown for the last 5 days over the latest 2 upsets.
Since March 19, NFL on Fox has been running a fan poll for the best current head coach in the league.
MCDC has reached the finals; going up against Andy Reid.
Previous rounds in the bracket:
- Rd 1: Campbell (4) over Allen (13) 97%
- Rd of 16: Campbell (4) over McCarthy (5) 89%
- Elite 8: Campbell (4) over Shanahan (1) 54%
- Final 4: Campbell (4) over McVey (2) 60%
- Championship Final: Campbell (4) vs Reid (1)
r/NFL (Reddit) has been on absolute meltdown for the last 5 days over the latest 2 upsets.
It's almost inexcusable if they don't find a way to sign this guy.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Lions match SF contract offer.
www.freep.com
Detroit Lions keep tight end Brock Wright, match RFA offer from San Francisco 49ers
Wright, 25, caught 13 passes for 91 yards last season while playing as the Lions' top blocking tight end.
www.freep.com
That feels like a waste of money to me. James Mitchell can do everything Wright can for 25% the price.Lions match SF contract offer.
Detroit Lions keep tight end Brock Wright, match RFA offer from San Francisco 49ers
Wright, 25, caught 13 passes for 91 yards last season while playing as the Lions' top blocking tight end.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yet the top 2 teams in the NFC were both ready to sign him to the same contract.That feels like a waste of money to me. James Mitchell can do everything Wright can for 25% the price.Lions match SF contract offer.
Detroit Lions keep tight end Brock Wright, match RFA offer from San Francisco 49ers
Wright, 25, caught 13 passes for 91 yards last season while playing as the Lions' top blocking tight end.
Maybe he's a great locker room guy? He's not much of a pass catcher or blocker.Yet the top 2 teams in the NFC were both ready to sign him to the same contract.That feels like a waste of money to me. James Mitchell can do everything Wright can for 25% the price.Lions match SF contract offer.
Detroit Lions keep tight end Brock Wright, match RFA offer from San Francisco 49ers
Wright, 25, caught 13 passes for 91 yards last season while playing as the Lions' top blocking tight end.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
He's actually an excellent run blocker. But if you are only looking at it from a fantasy perspective then no he's not anything special. 2TE sets tend to be on run plays.Maybe he's a great locker room guy? He's not much of a pass catcher or blocker.Yet the top 2 teams in the NFC were both ready to sign him to the same contract.That feels like a waste of money to me. James Mitchell can do everything Wright can for 25% the price.Lions match SF contract offer.
Detroit Lions keep tight end Brock Wright, match RFA offer from San Francisco 49ers
Wright, 25, caught 13 passes for 91 yards last season while playing as the Lions' top blocking tight end.
Is he? He's consistently ranked near the bottom in run blocking by PFF (68th out of 81 qualifiers in 2023, 74th out of 84 in 2022, 75th out of 85 in 2021) and I haven't seen anything when I've been watching the Lions to suggest they are wrong. I thought LaPorta was a better blocker, and St. Brown was a better blocker than any of their TEs.He's actually an excellent run blocker. But if you are only looking at it from a fantasy perspective then no he's not anything special. 2TE sets tend to be on run plays.Maybe he's a great locker room guy? He's not much of a pass catcher or blocker.Yet the top 2 teams in the NFC were both ready to sign him to the same contract.That feels like a waste of money to me. James Mitchell can do everything Wright can for 25% the price.Lions match SF contract offer.
Detroit Lions keep tight end Brock Wright, match RFA offer from San Francisco 49ers
Wright, 25, caught 13 passes for 91 yards last season while playing as the Lions' top blocking tight end.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
My biggest question is if this guy sucks so bad, why were San Francisco and the Lions so eager to sign him?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Right, not like it was the Panthers and Raiders fighting over him, must be something there
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It goes both ways, bad teams are looking for play makers and younger ones. While Wright isn't old, he doesn't fit the mold for bad teams on the rebuild. He does fit well for good teams that need a solid back-up and a guy that has experience and a decent skill set.
I also disagree with top teams just dying to sign him. It has been 3 weeks since free agency started.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Exactly.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Brock Wright contract details
Brock Wright: 3 years, $12 million — $3.545 million signing bonus
2024:
Obviously, the third year in Wright’s contract represents a pretty significant raise. And while there’s certainly a chance Wright earns that $3.3 million salary, most players don’t earn the final year of their deal.
Even then, the Lions are in relatively good shape: the out in the contract is built so they would only incur $2.127 million in dead cap if they cut him after two years. So if you combine the first two years of cap with with the dead cap of Year 3, you’re talking about a two-year, $6.52 million contract, which sounds far more tolerable and fair than a three-year, $12 million deal.
In the end, good on Wright for locking up far more guaranteed money and an extra year of job security. And good on the Lions for matching a fair deal that will only cost them slightly more than their original offer—and not leave them in search of filling an immediate need at tight end in the upcoming draft.
2024:
- $1,055,000 base salary (guaranteed)
- $709,000 in prorated signing bonus
- $50,000 workout bonus
- $1,764,000 cap hit
- $1,170,000 base salary
- $709,000 in prorated signing bonus
- $445,000 option bonus
- $255,000 roster bonus
- $50,000 workout bonus
- $2,629,000 cap hit
- $3,310,000 base salary
- $709,000 in prorated signing bonus
- $445,000 option bonus
- $340,000 roster bonus
- $50,000 workout bonus
- $4,854,000 cap hit
- $2,127,000 dead cap if cut
- $1,418,000 in dead cap (two signing bonus prorations)
Obviously, the third year in Wright’s contract represents a pretty significant raise. And while there’s certainly a chance Wright earns that $3.3 million salary, most players don’t earn the final year of their deal.
Even then, the Lions are in relatively good shape: the out in the contract is built so they would only incur $2.127 million in dead cap if they cut him after two years. So if you combine the first two years of cap with with the dead cap of Year 3, you’re talking about a two-year, $6.52 million contract, which sounds far more tolerable and fair than a three-year, $12 million deal.
In the end, good on Wright for locking up far more guaranteed money and an extra year of job security. And good on the Lions for matching a fair deal that will only cost them slightly more than their original offer—and not leave them in search of filling an immediate need at tight end in the upcoming draft.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
First pitch in the Tigers home opener was by Penei Sewell. Looked like a pitch Baez would swing and miss at.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
So it left Sewell's hand.
Moonlight
Footballguy
A's intentionally walked the rookie Kieth today in a key late inning situation today in order to get to Baez.
A's made the right decision.
