2025 College Football Thread: Notre Dame signed a guy (1 Viewer)

[FairWarning]

I am a hater so I need to ask more neutral fans... is this the most ridiculous answer to give? It makes it hard for me to respect Riley.

"Riley took a question about whether or not he wanted the rivalry to keep going and his answer was essentially, "if we can have easier schedules everywhere else, then yes, we'll play Notre Dame." the answer has been rightfully panned across the internet as yet again coming off as complaining about being in the Big Ten, while that was USC's choice."

I take it as an insult to the Athletic Association of Western Universities (AAWU) Pac-8 Pac10 Pac-12 and the "difficulty" of their conference schedule.

I took it more as a shot to the weak non-conference teams that the SEC schedule every year, which helps them get into the playoffs. Why should USC schedule that perennial playoff team in ND when it could just schedule teams like Charlotte, Austin Peay, and Eastern Illinois at the end of the year like the SEC does? When the W/L record means more now for Playoff contention, scheduling good teams like ND every year hurts more than it helps. Schedule the lower level teams like the SEC does and you can help bolster your own W/L record, but also those in the rest of the conference. Having the lower teams in the SEC beat these non-P4 teams helps boost their W/L record, which helps them get ranked higher and thus makes the top teams in the SEC look better. Meanwhile, the top teams in the SEC schedule the non-P4 teams to play right at the end of the season which becomes another de-facto bye week for them and also bumps up their W/L record. So if the SEC doesn't want to change how they schedule teams, everyone else will need to adapt to that same scheduling tactic in order to level the playing field.

It would be better if there was one governing body who was in charge of all scheduling in order to level the landscape. But that is too close to an NFL model, and the NCAA won't want that. Plus these non-P4 games raise $$ for those smaller schools to help them keep running, especially now in the revenue sharing and NIL era. These smaller schools will need the money they get from being beat up by the P4 conferences to pay players and keep the lights on in their facilities. It's a vicious cycle.

Maybe that's what Riley should have said, that he doesn't want to schedule ND any more because he wants to help fund and support the smaller non-P4 schools.

Do what now?

The top SEC schools are constantly scheduling OOC games against teams like Oregon, Ohio State, Clemson, Texas/OU (before they were in the SEC), etc.

Florida plays an annual rivalry game with FSU, who was consitently a top 5 team going into that game for almost 15 years straight at one point.

USC has historically played a good OOC schedule but kicks off with games against Missouri State and Georgia Southern this year. They only have one OOC game scheduled against a D1 opponent.

I haven’t looked at all the schedules, but the SEC schools have 4 out of conference games and usually have 3 patsies with one tough opponent typically, right? Using last season as an example, USC had three out of conference games and played LSU and Notre Dame, with one patsy. I’m pretty sure that is a tougher out of conference schedule than any SEC school had. This year, it’s two patsies and Notre Dame.

But let's also be honest here... I am no SEC fan but they have less patsies in conference than the B10 does. USC's schedule as I reviewed it wasn't a murderers row of games.

A Notre Dame fan bashing any other team's football schedule is just wild man.....

We aren't the ones trying to get out of one of the all time biggest college football rivalries.

Cancels nothing, you called out USC's schedule knowing your team played two service academies, 2 schools from the MAC, a horrendous Stanford team, Purdue, Virginia and Georgia Tech last year. I took Lincoln Riley's comments to be a shot at ND's schedule more than anything else. Your school has refused to join a conference because the independent schedule benefits them greatly. C'mon, now.

Miami’ was supposed to play ND and rescheduled the game late. I think Arkansas was supposed to play also, rescheduled because of the SEC talk of adding a 9th conference game.

Notre Dame benefits from playing an independent schedule every year and especially now that it's easier to make the playoffs. They were awesome last year and proved themselves in the playoffs but it's not really controversial to believe they have an easier path than schools in the SEC or Big10.

The Big 10 and SEC playoff teams are basically decided by who those teams do not play in the conference.

Personally I wish all of the conferences went back to 10 teams and come up with a system from there.

They also have a championship game that an independent college gets to avoid as well.

I'd be up for conference realignment for geographical reasons but that ship has sailed I fear. The current "system" is pretty dumb.

But if they don’t make the playoffs, they get no money, conference teams all get money. As of now, they get no playoff bye either.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't know how this factors in, but if you take the top 15 teams in the projected AP top 25 this year, Florida's schedule has them currently playing SEVEN teams ranked in the top 15, which is nuts.

ND has a very legit schedule and plays 3 ranked teams themselves, which is pretty solid. But there are levels to this for sure. Imagine swapping out Pitt, Syracuse, and Navy for Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee and then just shrugging it off because they're all D1 opponents so it's basically the same thing.

 

[Chadstroma]

Regular season by conference last season for ND.

SEC- I
B10- 3
ACC- 5
MAC- I
Indepedent- I
AAC- I

So.... basically a harder ACC schedule. Team rankings .com has it as the 26th hardest SOS in the nation before the beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn St. The year before that ended at 33rd, then 21st, 7th, 16th, 13th, 9th, 28th, 8th and then 32nd. 10 years of data says you are a hater.

Notre Dame played 2 schools from the MAC last year and lost one of them.

And then they went on and beat two B10 and one SEC team to get to the Championship. Up to that point, the data says they had the 26th strongest SOS. Not my argument or opinion, independent data. As I laid it out..... the SOS does vary but in the last ten years they had a top 10 SOS 3 times. They are affiliated with ACC so they are obligated to play a heavy ACC schedule. They aren't going out and trying to schedule a bunch of patsy games. USC is supposed to be a perennial contender and they aren't trying to run away from that match. It seems like the SEC and B10 teams are the ones that are scared to schedule them now.

It is just a hater point to keep pressing when the data clearly says that you are wrong.

Yes, I too would like to play an ACC schedule, 2 service academies and 2 schools from the MAC. Sounds delightful.

Keep ignoring all the actual data.

The beautiful thing about data is you can manipulate it however you like. We're both doing that with the same data.

Except my data actually has data. You just keep repeating the same thing. Actual data over a 10 year period says you have a weak argument.

 

[General Malaise]

Regular season by conference last season for ND.

SEC- I
B10- 3
ACC- 5
MAC- I
Indepedent- I
AAC- I

So.... basically a harder ACC schedule. Team rankings .com has it as the 26th hardest SOS in the nation before the beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn St. The year before that ended at 33rd, then 21st, 7th, 16th, 13th, 9th, 28th, 8th and then 32nd. 10 years of data says you are a hater.

Notre Dame played 2 schools from the MAC last year and lost one of them.

And then they went on and beat two B10 and one SEC team to get to the Championship. Up to that point, the data says they had the 26th strongest SOS. Not my argument or opinion, independent data. As I laid it out..... the SOS does vary but in the last ten years they had a top 10 SOS 3 times. They are affiliated with ACC so they are obligated to play a heavy ACC schedule. They aren't going out and trying to schedule a bunch of patsy games. USC is supposed to be a perennial contender and they aren't trying to run away from that match. It seems like the SEC and B10 teams are the ones that are scared to schedule them now.

It is just a hater point to keep pressing when the data clearly says that you are wrong.

Yes, I too would like to play an ACC schedule, 2 service academies and 2 schools from the MAC. Sounds delightful.

Keep ignoring all the actual data.

The beautiful thing about data is you can manipulate it however you like. We're both doing that with the same data.

Except my data actually has data. You just keep repeating the same thing. Actual data over a 10 year period says you have a weak argument.

Your data had them playing 1 less MAC school than they did last year.

An ACC schedule with 2 MAC schools, 2 service academies and no conference championship game is what it is. As an Oregon fan, I'd take that over playing in the Big10. I think every college fan of a team would prefer that.

 

[Chadstroma]

Regular season by conference last season for ND.

SEC- I
B10- 3
ACC- 5
MAC- I
Indepedent- I
AAC- I

So.... basically a harder ACC schedule. Team rankings .com has it as the 26th hardest SOS in the nation before the beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn St. The year before that ended at 33rd, then 21st, 7th, 16th, 13th, 9th, 28th, 8th and then 32nd. 10 years of data says you are a hater.

Notre Dame played 2 schools from the MAC last year and lost one of them.

And then they went on and beat two B10 and one SEC team to get to the Championship. Up to that point, the data says they had the 26th strongest SOS. Not my argument or opinion, independent data. As I laid it out..... the SOS does vary but in the last ten years they had a top 10 SOS 3 times. They are affiliated with ACC so they are obligated to play a heavy ACC schedule. They aren't going out and trying to schedule a bunch of patsy games. USC is supposed to be a perennial contender and they aren't trying to run away from that match. It seems like the SEC and B10 teams are the ones that are scared to schedule them now.

It is just a hater point to keep pressing when the data clearly says that you are wrong.

Yes, I too would like to play an ACC schedule, 2 service academies and 2 schools from the MAC. Sounds delightful.

Keep ignoring all the actual data.

The beautiful thing about data is you can manipulate it however you like. We're both doing that with the same data.

Except my data actually has data. You just keep repeating the same thing. Actual data over a 10 year period says you have a weak argument.

Your data had them playing 1 less MAC school than they did last year.

An ACC schedule with 2 MAC schools, 2 service academies and no conference championship game is what it is. As an Oregon fan, I'd take that over playing in the Big10. I think every college fan of a team would prefer that.

Yea.... move Indy to MAC because my memory sucks. Ok... and?

The actual data shows that they had the 26th strongest SOS in the nation last year before going to the CFP. Remind me how many B10 and SEC schools there are?

 

[bigbottom]

Regular season by conference last season for ND.

SEC- I
B10- 3
ACC- 5
MAC- I
Indepedent- I
AAC- I

So.... basically a harder ACC schedule. Team rankings .com has it as the 26th hardest SOS in the nation before the beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn St. The year before that ended at 33rd, then 21st, 7th, 16th, 13th, 9th, 28th, 8th and then 32nd. 10 years of data says you are a hater.

Notre Dame played 2 schools from the MAC last year and lost one of them.

And then they went on and beat two B10 and one SEC team to get to the Championship. Up to that point, the data says they had the 26th strongest SOS. Not my argument or opinion, independent data. As I laid it out..... the SOS does vary but in the last ten years they had a top 10 SOS 3 times. They are affiliated with ACC so they are obligated to play a heavy ACC schedule. They aren't going out and trying to schedule a bunch of patsy games. USC is supposed to be a perennial contender and they aren't trying to run away from that match. It seems like the SEC and B10 teams are the ones that are scared to schedule them now.

It is just a hater point to keep pressing when the data clearly says that you are wrong.

Yes, I too would like to play an ACC schedule, 2 service academies and 2 schools from the MAC. Sounds delightful.

Keep ignoring all the actual data.

The beautiful thing about data is you can manipulate it however you like. We're both doing that with the same data.

Except my data actually has data. You just keep repeating the same thing. Actual data over a 10 year period says you have a weak argument.

Your data had them playing 1 less MAC school than they did last year.

An ACC schedule with 2 MAC schools, 2 service academies and no conference championship game is what it is. As an Oregon fan, I'd take that over playing in the Big10. I think every college fan of a team would prefer that.

Yea.... move Indy to MAC because my memory sucks. Ok... and?

The actual data shows that they had the 26th strongest SOS in the nation last year before going to the CFP. Remind me how many B10 and SEC schools there are?

You keep referring to strength of schedule, which is certainly a legit argument. I have no idea what that website you quoted takes into account in reaching its conclusions, but it’s pretty obvious that last season’s strength of schedule for Notre Dame benefits from playing a pretty consistent grouping of decent but not great teams instead of a couple contenders with other lesser teams balancing out the schedule. Correct me if I’m wrong but ND played only one team in the regular season that was ranked in the top 25 at the end of the season. And that team was Army.

But in the end, it doesn’t matter. Notre Dame beat a bunch of legit teams in the playoffs. That’s the beauty of the playoffs. If Notre Dame hadn’t crapped the bed at home against Northern Illinois and instead had gone undefeated, but there were no playoffs, there would be all sorts of debate as to what they actually accomplished. But there WAS a playoff, and they kicked butt all the way to the championship game. So who cares if their regular season schedule wasn’t all that? They proved their mettle against better competition when they had to.

 

[bigbottom]

Oregon’s undefeated season was pretty remarkable, actually. They played 4 teams that ended up in the top 25 at the end of the season, and THREE of which made the playoffs.

 

[General Malaise]

Regular season by conference last season for ND.

SEC- I
B10- 3
ACC- 5
MAC- I
Indepedent- I
AAC- I

So.... basically a harder ACC schedule. Team rankings .com has it as the 26th hardest SOS in the nation before the beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn St. The year before that ended at 33rd, then 21st, 7th, 16th, 13th, 9th, 28th, 8th and then 32nd. 10 years of data says you are a hater.

Notre Dame played 2 schools from the MAC last year and lost one of them.

And then they went on and beat two B10 and one SEC team to get to the Championship. Up to that point, the data says they had the 26th strongest SOS. Not my argument or opinion, independent data. As I laid it out..... the SOS does vary but in the last ten years they had a top 10 SOS 3 times. They are affiliated with ACC so they are obligated to play a heavy ACC schedule. They aren't going out and trying to schedule a bunch of patsy games. USC is supposed to be a perennial contender and they aren't trying to run away from that match. It seems like the SEC and B10 teams are the ones that are scared to schedule them now.

It is just a hater point to keep pressing when the data clearly says that you are wrong.

Yes, I too would like to play an ACC schedule, 2 service academies and 2 schools from the MAC. Sounds delightful.

Keep ignoring all the actual data.

The beautiful thing about data is you can manipulate it however you like. We're both doing that with the same data.

Except my data actually has data. You just keep repeating the same thing. Actual data over a 10 year period says you have a weak argument.

Your data had them playing 1 less MAC school than they did last year.

An ACC schedule with 2 MAC schools, 2 service academies and no conference championship game is what it is. As an Oregon fan, I'd take that over playing in the Big10. I think every college fan of a team would prefer that.

Yea.... move Indy to MAC because my memory sucks. Ok... and?

The actual data shows that they had the 26th strongest SOS in the nation last year before going to the CFP. Remind me how many B10 and SEC schools there are?

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

 

[General Malaise]

Oregon’s undefeated season was pretty remarkable, actually. They played 4 teams that ended up in the top 25 at the end of the season, and THREE of which made the playoffs.

And I whined and cried like a baby when I realized their reward was a rematch against Ohio State. That was a kick in the nards for me and I'm sure other Ducks' fans too. They likely would have gotten plastered by Ohio State at some point, but Oregon couldn't get Boise State or anyother school not named Ohio State?

Ugh. They weren't even competitive. I got home from the bar watching the UT/ASU game and the score was like 17-0. I hadn't even made the bean dip.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Regular season by conference last season for ND.

SEC- I
B10- 3
ACC- 5
MAC- I
Indepedent- I
AAC- I

So.... basically a harder ACC schedule. Team rankings .com has it as the 26th hardest SOS in the nation before the beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn St. The year before that ended at 33rd, then 21st, 7th, 16th, 13th, 9th, 28th, 8th and then 32nd. 10 years of data says you are a hater.

Notre Dame played 2 schools from the MAC last year and lost one of them.

And then they went on and beat two B10 and one SEC team to get to the Championship. Up to that point, the data says they had the 26th strongest SOS. Not my argument or opinion, independent data. As I laid it out..... the SOS does vary but in the last ten years they had a top 10 SOS 3 times. They are affiliated with ACC so they are obligated to play a heavy ACC schedule. They aren't going out and trying to schedule a bunch of patsy games. USC is supposed to be a perennial contender and they aren't trying to run away from that match. It seems like the SEC and B10 teams are the ones that are scared to schedule them now.

It is just a hater point to keep pressing when the data clearly says that you are wrong.

Yes, I too would like to play an ACC schedule, 2 service academies and 2 schools from the MAC. Sounds delightful.

Harsh but fair

 

[Schmeabs]

Oregon’s undefeated season was pretty remarkable, actually. They played 4 teams that ended up in the top 25 at the end of the season, and THREE of which made the playoffs.

Oregon was the 2nd best team last year. Unfortunately they had to play the best team as their first opponent in the playoffs.

 

[General Malaise]

Oregon’s undefeated season was pretty remarkable, actually. They played 4 teams that ended up in the top 25 at the end of the season, and THREE of which made the playoffs.

Oregon was the 2nd best team last year. Unfortunately they had to play the best team as their first opponent in the playoffs.

That team that showed (no-showed, really) to start the Rose Bowl wasn't beating a MAC school. That was an undressing of grotesque proportions.

 

[Chadstroma]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

Is Miami the only top 20 team ND plays this year? Is A&M top 20? That November schedule is a joke.

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[General Malaise]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

You've brought Purdue up as a rivalry game for ND that isn't going anywhere. Why should Oregon not schedule their in-state rival on the same basis?

I don't want to see the USC/ND game lost - it's great for sports' fans. But I don’t have a problem with what Lincoln Riley said. He's not a legacy Trojan or worried about rivalry games played decades before he was born. He's doing what's best for his progrum. That's his job.

And, it's a hell of a note for a fan of a team that refuses to join a conference to take issue with a HC who wants an easier path to the playoffs. Right?

 

[Chadstroma]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

You've brought Purdue up as a rivalry game for ND that isn't going anywhere. Why should Oregon not schedule their in-state rival on the same basis?

I don't want to see the USC/ND game lost - it's great for sports' fans. But I don’t have a problem with what Lincoln Riley said. He's not a legacy Trojan or worried about rivalry games played decades before he was born. He's doing what's best for his progrum. That's his job.

And, it's a hell of a note for a fan of a team that refuses to join a conference to take issue with a HC who wants an easier path to the playoffs. Right?

I gave them props for keeping it. Like I said, they could have found more FCS schools to play instead but they went the harder route.

And again... this is what I have stood against with actual data. Your assertion that they are independent to be easy. Not some strawman that it is harder for ND. This whole back and forth started with a similar comment which I have shown to be without merit from actual data.

As you crap on everything not B10 and SEC, I bet that was a hard turn for you after the PAC-12 fell apart from what I can only imagine was your argument that they were just as good if not better. Or did you use to have a only B10 and SEC schools matter perspective then too? Highly doubtful.

 

[Zeppelin]

All I can say is football season can't get here soon enough.

 

[General Malaise]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

You've brought Purdue up as a rivalry game for ND that isn't going anywhere. Why should Oregon not schedule their in-state rival on the same basis?

I don't want to see the USC/ND game lost - it's great for sports' fans. But I don’t have a problem with what Lincoln Riley said. He's not a legacy Trojan or worried about rivalry games played decades before he was born. He's doing what's best for his progrum. That's his job.

And, it's a hell of a note for a fan of a team that refuses to join a conference to take issue with a HC who wants an easier path to the playoffs. Right?

I gave them props for keeping it. Like I said, they could have found more FCS schools to play instead but they went the harder route.

And again... this is what I have stood against with actual data. Your assertion that they are independent to be easy. Not some strawman that it is harder for ND. This whole back and forth started with a similar comment which I have shown to be without merit from actual data.

As you crap on everything not B10 and SEC, I bet that was a hard turn for you after the PAC-12 fell apart from what I can only imagine was your argument that they were just as good if not better. Or did you use to have a only B10 and SEC schools matter perspective then too? Highly doubtful.

Oh, for sure I was a very obnoxious Pac12 honk, no question about it. Other than Ohio State, I was incredibly dismissive of the Big10. The SEC? I think I held them in higher regard, especially after Oregon got the daylights beat out of them by LSU, Georgia and while a closer game, Auburn dominated the LOS vs Oregon in the 2010 championship game. After what Georgia, LSU and Bama did for the last decade plus how could you not? The Pac12's best season was its final one. Just look at the QBs playing on Sunday now for proof.

But now I think it's fair to say the Big10 and SEC are the best in breed. With Clemson falling off and the disaster that has been Florida State, I'm not sure that's an unusual take. The Big 12 and the ACC just don't have the same punch at the top and their middles are cookie dough soft.

Notre Dame impressed the hell out of me after they reached the playoffs. I want to make that clear. They got better as the season rolled along. All props to them and their coaching staff. That was a remarkable season. I expect the good times to continue.

But man, I'd sure rather their upcoming schedule to many others out there. Seems a little easier from where I sit but you do bring up good counter points.

The season can't get here soon enough!

 

[Chadstroma]

The SEC is clearly king. They really only have two schools that are continually weak (Miss St and Vandy) and one schools that flirts with being good and not so much (Kentucky)- the rest are consistently good to great.

B10 is the second best but I think the gulf between the two is larger than what B10 fans like to think. You got four schools that are in that consistent good to great (Michigan, Ohio St, USC and Oregon) and then you have Penn St that flirts with that status in my mind but seems to be on the bubble. Then a handful of schools that can be good at times but also not so much but generally are not considered title contenders (Wisconsin and Iowa for example). And then you got your Maryland and Rutgers schools which are on the same level of Miss St and Vandy.

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Being originally from So Cal, it is sad to see the Pac12 be destroyed like it has. I will be paying attention to it for basketball (which in at least that sense, it hasn't fallen as far as it has in football) since I am a Zag alumnus but it is no where near the same level of competition for football now. I was a UCLA fan probably even before being a ND fan (I can not recall the exact point of being a fan of ND vs UCLA) as I idolized Don MacLean as a young kid playing basketball when he was a basketball god playing at our local HS. (side note, my sister who went to school with him said he was a total donkey). I don't really cheer for them anymore but still have a soft spot in my heart for them over other schools.

One thing we can all agree on I think is that there should be a new law that forces the conferences, except SEC, to rename. Seriously, you guys are institutions of higher learning and clearly can not count.

 

[Instinctive]

Has USC been better than Penn State in the last like 15 years? I always kinda thought they've been sorts bad ever since Carroll left.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

You've brought Purdue up as a rivalry game for ND that isn't going anywhere. Why should Oregon not schedule their in-state rival on the same basis?

I don't want to see the USC/ND game lost - it's great for sports' fans. But I don’t have a problem with what Lincoln Riley said. He's not a legacy Trojan or worried about rivalry games played decades before he was born. He's doing what's best for his progrum. That's his job.

And, it's a hell of a note for a fan of a team that refuses to join a conference to take issue with a HC who wants an easier path to the playoffs. Right?

I gave them props for keeping it. Like I said, they could have found more FCS schools to play instead but they went the harder route.

And again... this is what I have stood against with actual data. Your assertion that they are independent to be easy. Not some strawman that it is harder for ND. This whole back and forth started with a similar comment which I have shown to be without merit from actual data.

As you crap on everything not B10 and SEC, I bet that was a hard turn for you after the PAC-12 fell apart from what I can only imagine was your argument that they were just as good if not better. Or did you use to have a only B10 and SEC schools matter perspective then too? Highly doubtful.

Oh, for sure I was a very obnoxious Pac12 honk, no question about it. Other than Ohio State, I was incredibly dismissive of the Big10. The SEC? I think I held them in higher regard, especially after Oregon got the daylights beat out of them by LSU, Georgia and while a closer game, Auburn dominated the LOS vs Oregon in the 2010 championship game. After what Georgia, LSU and Bama did for the last decade plus how could you not? The Pac12's best season was its final one. Just look at the QBs playing on Sunday now for proof.

But now I think it's fair to say the Big10 and SEC are the best in breed. With Clemson falling off and the disaster that has been Florida State, I'm not sure that's an unusual take. The Big 12 and the ACC just don't have the same punch at the top and their middles are cookie dough soft.

Notre Dame impressed the hell out of me after they reached the playoffs. I want to make that clear. They got better as the season rolled along. All props to them and their coaching staff. That was a remarkable season. I expect the good times to continue.

But man, I'd sure rather their upcoming schedule to many others out there. Seems a little easier from where I sit but you do bring up good counter points.

The season can't get here soon enough!

Clemson should be legit again this year. I saw one mock that had 4 tigers in the top 10 next year. Klubnik and 3 defenders. They have some good WR too.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Oregon’s undefeated season was pretty remarkable, actually. They played 4 teams that ended up in the top 25 at the end of the season, and THREE of which made the playoffs.

Adorable.

Florida once played 5 of the teams that finished in the top 10, had 1 loss (to a top 10 team on the last play) and didn't even make the championship game back in the bcs days.

Oregon had a great season for sure, but beating 3 top 15ish teams is well short of remarkable. Happens not that uncommonly.

 

[General Malaise]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

You've brought Purdue up as a rivalry game for ND that isn't going anywhere. Why should Oregon not schedule their in-state rival on the same basis?

I don't want to see the USC/ND game lost - it's great for sports' fans. But I don’t have a problem with what Lincoln Riley said. He's not a legacy Trojan or worried about rivalry games played decades before he was born. He's doing what's best for his progrum. That's his job.

And, it's a hell of a note for a fan of a team that refuses to join a conference to take issue with a HC who wants an easier path to the playoffs. Right?

I gave them props for keeping it. Like I said, they could have found more FCS schools to play instead but they went the harder route.

And again... this is what I have stood against with actual data. Your assertion that they are independent to be easy. Not some strawman that it is harder for ND. This whole back and forth started with a similar comment which I have shown to be without merit from actual data.

As you crap on everything not B10 and SEC, I bet that was a hard turn for you after the PAC-12 fell apart from what I can only imagine was your argument that they were just as good if not better. Or did you use to have a only B10 and SEC schools matter perspective then too? Highly doubtful.

Oh, for sure I was a very obnoxious Pac12 honk, no question about it. Other than Ohio State, I was incredibly dismissive of the Big10. The SEC? I think I held them in higher regard, especially after Oregon got the daylights beat out of them by LSU, Georgia and while a closer game, Auburn dominated the LOS vs Oregon in the 2010 championship game. After what Georgia, LSU and Bama did for the last decade plus how could you not? The Pac12's best season was its final one. Just look at the QBs playing on Sunday now for proof.

But now I think it's fair to say the Big10 and SEC are the best in breed. With Clemson falling off and the disaster that has been Florida State, I'm not sure that's an unusual take. The Big 12 and the ACC just don't have the same punch at the top and their middles are cookie dough soft.

Notre Dame impressed the hell out of me after they reached the playoffs. I want to make that clear. They got better as the season rolled along. All props to them and their coaching staff. That was a remarkable season. I expect the good times to continue.

But man, I'd sure rather their upcoming schedule to many others out there. Seems a little easier from where I sit but you do bring up good counter points.

The season can't get here soon enough!

Clemson should be legit again this year. I saw one mock that had 4 tigers in the top 10 next year. Klubnik and 3 defenders. They have some good WR too.

Yeah, that's true. Dabo finally got the memo and that should scare the rest of college football because when they were humming, that team was dynamite.

 

[General Malaise]

Has USC been better than Penn State in the last like 15 years? I always kinda thought they've been sorts bad ever since Carroll left.

They did beat Penn State in one of the greatest Rose Bowls I've ever seen, but yeah, it's been closer than the gap was under Carroll. Clay Helton couldn't win big games (sound familiar, Penn State?) and Lincoln Riley thinks defense is optional (though they improved greatly last year while his offense sputtered).

 

[Chadstroma]

Has USC been better than Penn State in the last like 15 years? I always kinda thought they've been sorts bad ever since Carroll left.

Sanctions hurt coming out of that era but they ended ranked in AP polls 9 of those last 15 years. They will always have the potential to be a contender with a good HC (I think we agree the current one is not the right fit). They have tremendous upside for recruiting. I mean, you have to be a moron of a coach to not have a top 20 recruiting class if you are at USC.

 

[Chadstroma]

Penn St crawled out of being just another school after their glory years within the last handful of years I would say.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Penn St crawled out of being just another school after their glory years within the last handful of years I would say.

They have won 9 games or more 13 of the last 20 years after Paterno had some down years between 2000-2004. They were bad the covid year and the two Bill O'Brien years were average but otherwise they have been good or really good. Not much different than ND during the Bob Davie, Tyrone Willingham and Charlie Weis eras.

 

[bigbottom]

Has USC been better than Penn State in the last like 15 years? I always kinda thought they've been sorts bad ever since Carroll left.

Well, they did go 11-1 in ‘22 and were
a Caleb Williams hamstring injury away from the Pac-12 championship and the 4-team playoffs. Schedule was pretty light that season, though, despite beating Notre Dame. And Penn State was the better team that year in any event.

 

[Desert_Power]

I think you want people to believe that Notre Dame has a tougher road to get to the playoffs because they are independent and have talking points to booster your belief but I'm not buying it. Playing in the SEC and the Big10 is harder than playing the schedule Notre Dame played last year.
Now, they acquitted themselves quite nicely. No doubt they came, saw and conquered. But from playing an ACC schedule, Miami-OH, N.ILL, Navy and Army you aren't changing my mind that that was a tougher SOS than teams that came from the SEC or Big10. You might change others' minds, but not mine. And that's okay.

When did I ever say that they had a tougher road? My point that all they do is schedule patsies is wrong. It seems it will get harder to schedule games with B10 and SEC schools as they scramble to find the weakest non-conference schedule they can like USC as the HC is trying to end a top ten all time college football rivalry.

What I am saying is that ND doesn't schedule the easiest schedule they could. I backed that up with data of SOS from an independent source that clearly shows that they do not. The tougher road ND will have is now is to keep or convince B10 and SEC teams to schedule them.

I guess props to Oregon for keeping the Oregon St rivalry going... I suppose Oregon St might accidentally win a game in the next decade against them, they could have gone the even safer route and scheduled more FCS teams.

You've brought Purdue up as a rivalry game for ND that isn't going anywhere. Why should Oregon not schedule their in-state rival on the same basis?

I don't want to see the USC/ND game lost - it's great for sports' fans. But I don’t have a problem with what Lincoln Riley said. He's not a legacy Trojan or worried about rivalry games played decades before he was born. He's doing what's best for his progrum. That's his job.

And, it's a hell of a note for a fan of a team that refuses to join a conference to take issue with a HC who wants an easier path to the playoffs. Right?

I gave them props for keeping it. Like I said, they could have found more FCS schools to play instead but they went the harder route.

And again... this is what I have stood against with actual data. Your assertion that they are independent to be easy. Not some strawman that it is harder for ND. This whole back and forth started with a similar comment which I have shown to be without merit from actual data.

As you crap on everything not B10 and SEC, I bet that was a hard turn for you after the PAC-12 fell apart from what I can only imagine was your argument that they were just as good if not better. Or did you use to have a only B10 and SEC schools matter perspective then too? Highly doubtful.

Oh, for sure I was a very obnoxious Pac12 honk, no question about it. Other than Ohio State, I was incredibly dismissive of the Big10. The SEC? I think I held them in higher regard, especially after Oregon got the daylights beat out of them by LSU, Georgia and while a closer game, Auburn dominated the LOS vs Oregon in the 2010 championship game. After what Georgia, LSU and Bama did for the last decade plus how could you not? The Pac12's best season was its final one. Just look at the QBs playing on Sunday now for proof.

But now I think it's fair to say the Big10 and SEC are the best in breed. With Clemson falling off and the disaster that has been Florida State, I'm not sure that's an unusual take. The Big 12 and the ACC just don't have the same punch at the top and their middles are cookie dough soft.

Notre Dame impressed the hell out of me after they reached the playoffs. I want to make that clear. They got better as the season rolled along. All props to them and their coaching staff. That was a remarkable season. I expect the good times to continue.

But man, I'd sure rather their upcoming schedule to many others out there. Seems a little easier from where I sit but you do bring up good counter points.

The season can't get here soon enough!

Clemson should be legit again this year. I saw one mock that had 4 tigers in the top 10 next year. Klubnik and 3 defenders. They have some good WR too.

Yeah, that's true. Dabo finally got the memo and that should scare the rest of college football because when they were humming, that team was dynamite.

They're bringing a lot of really good players back. I've been wanting to take their over. It sucks.

 

[Capella]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

 

[General Malaise]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

 

[FairWarning]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

I don’t think Clemson has the type of money it takes to get elite players into western SC. It’s really not an easy place to go to when nearby SEC teams are spending big.

 

[FairWarning]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

You’ll know a lot about ND after playing at Miami and TAMU home in September.

 

[General Malaise]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

You’ll know a lot about ND after playing at Miami and TAMU home in September.

I learned a lot about ND last year. I'm impressed. Beating Miami does not impress me. At all. And wake me up when TAMU lives up to expectations. It's been a while, decades, century.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Deion Sanders announces he had bladder cancer. Full bladder removal (and replaced?) and beat the cancer.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

You’ll know a lot about ND after playing at Miami and TAMU home in September.

I learned a lot about ND last year. I'm impressed. Beating Miami does not impress me. At all. And wake me up when TAMU lives up to expectations. It's been a while, decades, century.

As much money as Miami is throwing around, I don't get why they chose Carson Beck. I never thought he was good with all the Georgia talent around him.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

Deion Sanders announces he had bladder cancer. Full bladder removal (and replaced?) and beat the cancer.

Holy ****. I had no idea. Just read he had 14 surgeries and his bladder replaced. They're saying he's completely cancer free now.

Deion Sanders health update: Doctors reveal Coach Prime cured of bladder cancer

.

www.on3.com

 

[General Malaise]

Deion Sanders announces he had bladder cancer. Full bladder removal (and replaced?) and beat the cancer.

Wow, he kept that quiet. Good for him. Curious what the Buffs look like this year - I know this, it won't be boring!

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Deion Sanders announces he had bladder cancer. Full bladder removal (and replaced?) and beat the cancer.

Wow, he kept that quiet. Good for him. Curious what the Buffs look like this year - I know this, it won't be boring!

GT opens in Boulder in five weeks. Glad Hunter isn't there anymore. I have no idea what to expect from them.

 

[General Malaise]

Deion Sanders announces he had bladder cancer. Full bladder removal (and replaced?) and beat the cancer.

Wow, he kept that quiet. Good for him. Curious what the Buffs look like this year - I know this, it won't be boring!

GT opens in Boulder in five weeks. Glad Hunter isn't there anymore. I have no idea what to expect from them.

You going? That's on the top of my list for a road game once all my kids are off the payroll.

 

[Joe Bryant]

MACtion.

https://x.com/JDonovanWx/status/1949905650466902147

 

[Capella]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

You’ll know a lot about ND after playing at Miami and TAMU home in September.

I learned a lot about ND last year. I'm impressed. Beating Miami does not impress me. At all. And wake me up when TAMU lives up to expectations. It's been a while, decades, century.

As much money as Miami is throwing around, I don't get why they chose Carson Beck. I never thought he was good with all the Georgia talent around him.

Yea they have another 7-5/8-4 season written all over them.

 

[FairWarning]

MACtion.

https://x.com/JDonovanWx/status/1949905650466902147

Western Michigan may be the last D1 champ (hockey) that used no NIL money.

 

[FairWarning]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

You’ll know a lot about ND after playing at Miami and TAMU home in September.

I learned a lot about ND last year. I'm impressed. Beating Miami does not impress me. At all. And wake me up when TAMU lives up to expectations. It's been a while, decades, century.

Who should they open up the season with? If they play Akron and northern Iowa, people complain also.

 

[General Malaise]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

You’ll know a lot about ND after playing at Miami and TAMU home in September.

I learned a lot about ND last year. I'm impressed. Beating Miami does not impress me. At all. And wake me up when TAMU lives up to expectations. It's been a while, decades, century.

Who should they open up the season with? If they play Akron and northern Iowa, people complain also.

I'm not knocking ND. Just like to throw shade at Miami at any opportunity. And, at heart, I was taught to mock and ridicule the Aggies since my dad is a Longhorn.

 

[Joe Bryant]

since my dad is a Longhorn.

You can break free of the sins of the fathers GM!

 

[bigbottom]

ACC and Big 12 are next level after that and about even in my mind.

Why do people say this. The ACC has two teams who have won a title in the last 12 years and another in Miami that used to be a juggernaut and is spending like it wants to be one again. The Big 12 literally has no programs that have won a national title this century. They don’t even have one who has played for one if I’m not missing anything.

Edit: I was missing TCU but I don’t think anybody really considers them a national title type program.

I would say it's recency bias because you're right, Clemson and FSU were Blue Bloods not all that long ago and Miami was, but far longer ago. But we college football fans have the memory of an elite cornerback and what we remember is Dabo refusing to pay players or use the 'Portal' and floundering as a result, we remember Florida State peeing the bed last year after barely missing out on the playoffs the year before and we remember Mario Cristobal having the football IQ of a turnip when it comes to play calling in critical moments.

I'm curious to see if Texas Tech can live up to all the hype coming into this season. They spent money like drunken cowboys back from a Montana cattle drive and should have an easier path to the playoffs than Notre Dame.


:runsaway:

You’ll know a lot about ND after playing at Miami and TAMU home in September.

I learned a lot about ND last year. I'm impressed. Beating Miami does not impress me. At all. And wake me up when TAMU lives up to expectations. It's been a while, decades, century.

Who should they open up the season with? If they play Akron and northern Iowa, people complain also.

I'm not knocking ND. Just like to throw shade at Miami at any opportunity. And, at heart, I was taught to mock and ridicule the Aggies since my dad is a Longhorn.

Instructive

And then the link below is to a clip from a USC podcast - Chris Arledge is a former colleague of mine (he’s a lawyer). His take had me rolling.

Worst Cheer Reaction


Edit to add: A&M alums make up a huge part of my circle of friends. Amazing people. But that cheer video is indefensible.

 

[General Malaise]

since my dad is a Longhorn.

You can break free of the sins of the fathers GM!

Being completely honest here - I dislike UT far more than A&M. Many reasons for that but Gig 'Em >>> Hook 'em, IMO.