BobbyLayne
Footballguy
TJL audio - Stoney & Jansen
The block of the year
I’ve watched it 50 times, as good as a Barry v The Bucs highlight
Loved how 24 got up and slapped Craig, that dude knew he was about to go viral in an embarrassing way
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2025 Detroit Lions: 0-0 HOF Game on tape, as DC said..."We got work to do" (37 Viewers)
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TJL audio - Stoney & Jansen
The block of the year
I’ve watched it 50 times, as good as a Barry v The Bucs highlight
Loved how 24 got up and slapped Craig, that dude knew he was about to go viral in an embarrassing way
Isn't Hooker NFI, not IR, though? Not 100% sure whether that matters or not on the 8 count.
Lion to myself
Footballguy
I don’t think so. Staff loves Reynolds. I believe he will take the Monty role but slightly reduced as we will see more Gibbs. Mo may get some carries but I’d be surprised if he overtook Craig.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not even sure he's healthy atm. Came in rehabbing a college injury as a priority UDFA., impressed in camTV but had another knee issue. He was let go with an injury settlement prior to final cuts.
With Dan Skipper signing to 53-man - that's distinct from promotion as it guarantees 3 game checks at the vet minimum - they had a practice squad slot open. IIRC he is not a special teams guy so unlikely to be active on game day. Probably stick with Devine Ozigbo as the RB3 bc he has a 4-phase ST role.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Gardner Johnson starting beef with Deebo. I think the back and forth is hilarious, but if the 49ers do play the Lions down the road, there's gonna be plenty of bulletin board material.
www.ninersnation.com
Lions defender on Deebo Samuel: ‘You’re a running back. You can’t run routes’
The same Lions defender has bounced around teams, and Deebo responded. Welcome to social media.
www.ninersnation.com
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Heard DC today that Reynolds is capable of handling the load. And that it is possible Mo might see some carries. Probably meant if Gibby is still out.
Thankfully nobody picked up Reynolds when Lions waived him.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Gardner Johnson starting beef with Deebo. I think the back and forth is hilarious, but if the 49ers do play the Lions down the road, there's gonna be plenty of bulletin board material.
Lions defender on Deebo Samuel: ‘You’re a running back. You can’t run routes’
The same Lions defender has bounced around teams, and Deebo responded. Welcome to social media.
Not sure why an injured Johnson is running his mouth, Lions don`t need that right now. Plus Deebo is as tough as they come as a WR.
I truly believe half of these guys "not just Johnson" are drinking when they post stuff.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Handshake deals are common. Don't hear people talk about it ever but I read a Ravens beat writer doing a prediction breakdown of their projected 53-man. “The Handshake Crew” *wink* *wink* happens every year.
You cut a vet bc you can only use IR-R on guys who make the 53-man. They cut Craig knowing Julian Okwara was going to move to IR-Return. Handshake agreement they would get him back after they made the move, as long as he promises not to go anywhere.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Top two ranked Quarterbacks in the NFL through Week 6 according to PFF:
4 DAYS
13 HOURS
03 MINUTES
44 SECONDS
until kickoff
- Jared Goff 90.4
- Lamar Jackson 88.7
4 DAYS
13 HOURS
03 MINUTES
44 SECONDS
until kickoff
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Been watching the Ravens All-22 game films, really impressed by Geno Stone. 4th year S out of Iowa.
KR/PR Devin Duvernay is the best in the league IMO. Very dangerous, can flip the field if Detroit’s gunners are not on point.
Lamar is playing very well but holy cow do they have inexplicable breakdowns in the red zone. Flowers is an impressive little receiver, great route runner who is impossible in man coverage. Andrews still doing Andrews things.
They are a ferocious hitting team on STs and Defense. If there were a way to objectively measure bruises inflicted these MFers would be 1st in the league (I haven’t watched film on every team though.)
Surprisingly they have been at times a mistake prone team. They can be their own worst enemy.
Ravens haven’t played a home game in four weeks (9/24.) The last one left a bitter taste - pissed away the Colts game week 3 v Gardner Minshew, 19-22 in OT. Lost fumbles by K Drake (no points) and Lamar on a sack (FG.) Lamar running well and the offense looks completely different than the previous OC - LJax is very efficient & effective on short passes.
KR/PR Devin Duvernay is the best in the league IMO. Very dangerous, can flip the field if Detroit’s gunners are not on point.
Lamar is playing very well but holy cow do they have inexplicable breakdowns in the red zone. Flowers is an impressive little receiver, great route runner who is impossible in man coverage. Andrews still doing Andrews things.
They are a ferocious hitting team on STs and Defense. If there were a way to objectively measure bruises inflicted these MFers would be 1st in the league (I haven’t watched film on every team though.)
Surprisingly they have been at times a mistake prone team. They can be their own worst enemy.
Ravens haven’t played a home game in four weeks (9/24.) The last one left a bitter taste - pissed away the Colts game week 3 v Gardner Minshew, 19-22 in OT. Lost fumbles by K Drake (no points) and Lamar on a sack (FG.) Lamar running well and the offense looks completely different than the previous OC - LJax is very efficient & effective on short passes.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Stone became a core STer while waiting his turn for defensive snaps. He's making the most out of them now.
Jackson has been the most accurate I've seen him this year. That Pittsburgh game really hurt his numbers, but that's on his receivers not him. His biggest problem has been fumbles.
The defense has been stout, and that's with a ton of injuries.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
And been getting healthier.
I need a chart to keep track but last count I think we have had 20 players miss a game due to injury. 6 season ending injuries (unless CJGJ really does make it back from torn pec surgery to help out in the playoffs.) 7 starters, including three starting OL.
Hell, we lost the RG + LT concurrently, RT Penei had to switch sides for a few weeks, 6th OL (Glasgow) played RG, 7th OL (Nelson) started RT and lasted about 18 snaps before his season ended, 8th OL (6’9” Dan Skipper up from the practice squad) came in to play 13 snaps before turning an ankle, 9th OL (6th round pick Colby Sorsdal - who repped at G all summer) finished out the RT carousel. Played well for being 4th string RT.
***** ***** *****. Nope. That’s the NFL man. NMU has to be a mindset. You keep 69 players bc you need them all.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
from MCDC’s presser today he more or less confirmed Tanner Engstrand (passing game coordinator) is the presumptive heir for the 2024 OC position
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
By now you folks know at some point (every week) I gotta post some choice content from my favorite former defensive coordinator & quality boutique YouTuber All 22 Films. As the channel is split between Lions & Ravens film study I’ll get to Baltimore later in the week.
Aaron Glenn’s defense befuddled the Bucs | Week 6 film study
Aaron Glenn’s defense befuddled the Bucs | Week 6 film study
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Detroit Lions Mic'd Up | Extended Sights and Sounds: Lions at Buccaneers | 2023 Week 6
Man, we have the best fans. Crazy hearing Let's Go Lions! in other teams stadiums. Hoping we see the same lower bowl takeover at M&T Bank Sunday.
Man, we have the best fans. Crazy hearing Let's Go Lions! in other teams stadiums. Hoping we see the same lower bowl takeover at M&T Bank Sunday.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Season long Offense grades through Week 6
(ordered by postion groups then by snap counts
(ordered by postion groups then by snap counts
| Player | Position | PFF Grade | Rank |
| Jared Goff | QB | 90.4 | 1st (out of 35) |
| Amon-Ra St Brown | WR | 86.8 | 9th (out of 177) |
| Josh Reynolds | WR | 81.8 | 16th (out of 177) |
| Marvin Jones Jr | WR | 43.8 | 174th (out of 177) |
| Kalif Raymond | WR | 78.5 | 23rd (out of 177) |
| Jameson Williams | WR | 54.5 | 133rd (out of 177) |
| Antoine Green | WR | 53.7 | 137th (out of 177) |
| Sam LaPorta | TE | 75.0 | 8th (out 0f 115) |
| Brock Wright | TE | 37,2 | 114th (out of 115) |
| James Mitchell | TE | 40.7 | 110th (out of 115) |
| David Montgomery | HB | 69.6 | 38th (out of 122) |
| Jahmyr Gibbs | HB | 62.1 | 72nd (out of 122) |
| Craig Reynolds | HB | 74.5 | 13th (out of 122) |
| Jason Cabinda | FB | 40.4 | 118th (out of 122) |
| Devine Ozigbo | HB | 66.0 | 54th (out of 122) |
| Taylor Decker | LT | 62.1 | 55th (out of 115) |
| Jonah Jackson | LG | 80.7 | 36th (out of 109) |
| Frank Ragnow | C | 80.4 | 3rd (out of 49) |
| Graham Glasgow | RG | 81.9 | 3rd (out of 49) |
| Penei Sewell | RT | 63.0 | 8th (out of 115) |
| Halapoulivaati Vaitai | RG | 78.6 | 6th (out of 109) |
| Matt Nelson | RT | 58.9 | 78th (out 0f 115) |
| Kayode Awosika | LG | 61.5 | 39th (out of 109) |
| Colby Sorsdal | RT | 51.9 | 94th (out of 115 |
| Dan Skipper | RT | 77.9 | 13th (out of 115) |
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Season long Defense grades through Week 6
NAME | POSITION | GAMES | STARTS | SNAPS | DEF | RDEF | TACK | PRSH | COV | DEF RANK |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alim McNeil | DLT-5, DRT-1 | 6 | 6 | 262 | 87.0 | 84.0 | 28.7 | 69.2 | 66.7 | 9th (out of 184) |
| John Cominsky | LE-4, RE-2 | 6 | 4 | 219 | 60.5 | 59.7 | 60.9 | 58.1 | 62.1 | 79th (out of 184) |
| Benito Jones | LT-3, RT-2, NT-1 | 6 | 6 | 189 | 43.3 | 34.6 | 32.0 | 53.1 | 70.7 | 165th (out of 184) |
| Isaiah Buggs | NT-3, DRT-1 | 4 | 0 | 77 | 74.1 | 64.9 | 70.7 | 69.0 | 62.9 | 22nd (out of 184) |
| Levi Onwuzurike | LT-3, RT-1, RE-1 | 5 | 0 | 66 | 59.2 | 56.4 | 69.5 | 56.7 | 62.2 | 87th (out 0f 184) |
| Josh Paschal | DI/LE-1 | 1 | 0 | 17 | 73.9 | 71.8 | 72.2 | 62.1 | 60.0 | 24th (out of 184) |
| Aidan Hutchinson | ED/DLE-6 | 6 | 6 | 347 | 90.7 | 57.2 | 43.4 | 90.1 | 90.1 | 8th (out 0f 167) |
| Charles Harris | ED/DRE-6 | 6 | 3 | 226 | 56.4 | 68.4 | 65.8 | 54.0 | 63.0 | 116th (out of 167) |
| Romeo Okwara | DRE-3, RE-1, DLE-1 | 5 | 0 | 104 | 65.8 | 60.0 | 69.2 | 60.4 | 60.5 | 40th (out of 167) |
| James Houston IV | ED/LOLB-2 | 2 | 1 | 31 | 47.2 | 45.6 | 73.0 | 64.7 | 44.1 | 144th (out of 167 |
| Julian Owara | ED/LOLB-1, ROLB-1 | 2 | 0 | 18 | 65.8 | 60.0 | 73.8 | 60.1 | 71.3 | 62nd (out of 167) |
| Alex Anzalone | ILB-5, WLB-1 | 6 | 6 | 374 | 76.3 | 73.3 | 48.2 | 64.0 | 75.0 | 28th (out of 145) |
| Derrick Barnes | ILB-6 | 6 | 6 | 244 | 68.6 | 73.5 | 60.7 | 72.4 | 58.8 | (53rd (out of 145) |
| Jack Campbell | MLB-4, LOLB-2 | 6 | 2 | 181 | 50.6 | 82.7 | 86.1 | 47.5 | 40.8 | 120th out of 145) |
| Malcolm Rodriguez | ILB-4 | 4 | 0 | 57 | 38.2 | 50.1 | 28..0 | 56.5 | 41.5 | 135th (out of 145) |
| Jalen Reeves-Maybin | WLB | 2 | 0 | 5 | 62.8 | 62.1 | 78th (out of 145) | |||
| Cam Sutton | LCB-5, rCB-1 | 6 | 6 | 386 | 70.8 | 75.8 | 58.5 | 60.0 | 68.9 | 44th (out of 182) |
| Jerry Jacobs | RCB-5, RCB-1 | 6 | 6 | 383 | 62.2 | 73.4 | 41.7 | 60.7 | 60.8 | 101st (out of 182) |
| Brian Branch | SCB-3, SS-1 | 4 | 2 | 200 | 79.7 | 89.1 | 79.4 | 54.3 | 80.4 | 15th (OUT 0F 182) |
| Will Harris | SCB-4, LCB-1 | 5 | 1 | 125 | 43.4 | 54.6 | 65.7 | 46.4 | 43.2 | 167th (out of 182) |
| E Moseley | RCB-1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 60.6 | 60.0 | 60.0 | 107th (out of 182) | ||
| Tracy Walker III | FS-3, SS-2 | 5 | 4 | 260 | 68.9 | 65.2 | 63.4 | 82.9 | 65.5 | 44th (out of 147) |
| Kerby Joseph | FS-2, SS-2 | 4 | 4 | 254 | 55.3 | 81.1 | 72.6 | 87.4 | 47.4 | 111th (out of 147) |
| CJ Gardner-Johnson | FS-1, SS-1 | 2 | 2 | 134 | 70.7 | 76.0 | 52.6 | 54.9 | 68.9 | 38th (out 0f 147) |
| Ifeatu Melifonwu | FS-2, SS-1 | 3 | 1 | 96 | 55.3 | 55.3 | 84.8 | 59.1 | 74.4 | 20th (out of 147) |
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Acronym Key
POS: Special Teams group position
KR: Snaps where returning the ball on a kickoff
KC: Snaps where hunting down those kickoff returners
PR: Snaps where returning the ball on a punt
PC: Snaps where hunting down those punt returners
FGB: Snaps where rushing/blocking a field goal or PAT
FGK: Snaps where kicking a field goal or PAT
PEN: Total (Declined+Offset): Total and (declined or offsetting) penalties
TKL: Tackles
AST: Assisted Tackles
MIS: Missed Tackles
I swear, is Will Harris - "He is Mr Versatility, we can use him so many ways" - one of the worst football players in the NFL? No matter what the assignment is, he is terrible at it, and when he isn't, there's probably a penalty coming.
NOTE: deleted players with less than 25 snaps as the full table exceeded the character limit.
POS: Special Teams group position
KR: Snaps where returning the ball on a kickoff
KC: Snaps where hunting down those kickoff returners
PR: Snaps where returning the ball on a punt
PC: Snaps where hunting down those punt returners
FGB: Snaps where rushing/blocking a field goal or PAT
FGK: Snaps where kicking a field goal or PAT
PEN: Total (Declined+Offset): Total and (declined or offsetting) penalties
TKL: Tackles
AST: Assisted Tackles
MIS: Missed Tackles
PLAYER | POSITION | SNAPS | SPECIAL TEAMS OVERALL GRADE | RANK | FG KICKING | RANK | PUNTING | RANK | KICKOFF | RANK | KICKOFF RETURN | RANK | PUNT RETURN | RANK | PEN | TACKLES | ASSISTS | MISS TACKLES | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Riley Patterson | PK | 35 | 60.3 | 72.3 | 16th (out of 33) | 60.0 | 33rd (out of 44) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||
| Jack Fox | P | 81 | 62.3 | 68.1 | 64.7 | 28th (out of 44) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
| Khalil Dorsey | KR-KC-PR-PC | 42 | 88.1 | 57.7 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | |||||||||||
| Craig Reynolds | KR-KC-PR-PC | 67 | 77.4 | 56.2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | |||||||||||
| Jack Campbell | KR-KC-PC | 76 | 73.5 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Jason Cabinda | KR-KC-PR-PC | 53 | 71.0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Darrell Daniels | KR-KC-PR-PC-FGK | 70 | 70.9 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Kerby Joseph | KR-KC-PR-FGB | 36 | 64.3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Malcolm Rodriquez | KR-KR-PR-PC | 110 | 64.3 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | ||||||||||||
PLAYER | POSITION | SNAPS | ST GRADE | RANK | FGK | RANK | PUNT | RANK | KOFF | RANK | KRET |
| PRET | RANK | PEN | TKL | AST | MIS | |
| Penei Sewell | FGK | 30 | 62.2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Graham Glasgow | FGK | 30 | 62.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Colby Sorsdal | FGK | 30 | 61.4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Kalif Raymond | KR-PR | 32 | 60.9 | 59.0 | 72.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||
| James Mitchell | KR-FGK | 31 | 60.3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Riley Patterson | KC-FGK | 35 | 60.3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Anthony Pittman | KR-KC-PR-PC-FGB | 127 | 60.2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | ||||||||||||
PLAYER | POSITION | SNAPS | ST GRADE | RANK | FGK | RANK | PUNT | RANK | KOFF | RANK | KRET | RANK | PRET | RANK | PEN | TKL | AST | MIS | |
| Tracy Walker III | KR-KC-PR-FGB | 42 | 59.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Benito Jones | FGB-FGK | 30 | 58.9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Scott Daly | LS-PC-FGK | 52 | 58.6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Antoin Green | KR-PR | 37 | 57.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Chase Lucas | KR-KC-PR-PC-FGB | 91 | 57.0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | ||||||||||||
| Jaylen Reeves-Maybib | KR-KC-PR-PC-FGB | 131 | 52.6 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 3 | ||||||||||||
| Brock Wright | KR-PC-FGK | 79 | 51.7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Ifeatu Melifonwu | KR-KC-PR-PC-FGB | 66 | 51.3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | ||||||||||||
| Will Harris | KR-KC-PR-PC-FGB | 94 | 40.6 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
I swear, is Will Harris - "He is Mr Versatility, we can use him so many ways" - one of the worst football players in the NFL? No matter what the assignment is, he is terrible at it, and when he isn't, there's probably a penalty coming.
NOTE: deleted players with less than 25 snaps as the full table exceeded the character limit.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Thought these were interesting tables:
I don't think we'll make the second chart, not this week - those games all have a point differential between 35 and 45. But I could see us posting a statement game (17 or more) for our second blowout win.
They are the most complete team in the NFL right now. By DVOA, the 4th best offense and the 3rd best defense. The injury report is the lightest since Week 1, with only Monty & Jonah declared out. Branch and Gibbs returning after missing 2 games, with the added bonus Paschal could be activated from IR-R.
No disrespect to the Ravens; they have a very good defense, and Lamar is having his best season passing (and still very dangerous running.) It's not even about the talent level or coaching disparity; goodness, John Harbaugh is as good as it gets, both coordinators are upper tier.
I just think Detroit is due to have a crisp game with very few MAs. Could be offbase, this is by no means an easy one, but I think they are playing with a lot of confidence right now in all three phases.
- NFL 2023 largest margin of victory in an nfl game this season
- Lions Largest Margin of Victory in a Game
I don't think we'll make the second chart, not this week - those games all have a point differential between 35 and 45. But I could see us posting a statement game (17 or more) for our second blowout win.
They are the most complete team in the NFL right now. By DVOA, the 4th best offense and the 3rd best defense. The injury report is the lightest since Week 1, with only Monty & Jonah declared out. Branch and Gibbs returning after missing 2 games, with the added bonus Paschal could be activated from IR-R.
No disrespect to the Ravens; they have a very good defense, and Lamar is having his best season passing (and still very dangerous running.) It's not even about the talent level or coaching disparity; goodness, John Harbaugh is as good as it gets, both coordinators are upper tier.
I just think Detroit is due to have a crisp game with very few MAs. Could be offbase, this is by no means an easy one, but I think they are playing with a lot of confidence right now in all three phases.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
To be fair, his level of play changed drastically somewhere around the middle of last year. He was not good his first season in Detroit.
Moonlight
Footballguy
I think that after the doghouse treatment from McVay the Lions made great efforts to build his confidence and play to his strengths and also got him weapons to throw to.
I vividly remember a joyous Goff running and jumping off the field after the late 4th quarter rally that beat Minnesota for his first Lion victory.
You would have thought he was a rookie QB celebrating his first win as opposed to a veteran QB who has been to the SB
Moonlight
Footballguy
I was down on him early due to his unwillingness to throw the ball downfield and against tight coverage.
In retrospect I can see Goff’s improvement coinciding with Campbell replacing Lynn for Ben Johnson at OC and getting some weapons mid season with the emergence of St Brown and getting Josh Reynolds.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I have insomnia almost every night (combat PTSD) but the night before a road trip to Baltimore? Fahghettaboutit.
Found the Reddit game thread from the Ravens-Lions 2021. Top comment:
My goodness…it isn’t just they transformed the Quinticia era, the roster has had massive turnover since Y1. Heck JRM left and came back since then lol.
Found the Reddit game thread from the Ravens-Lions 2021. Top comment:
My goodness…it isn’t just they transformed the Quinticia era, the roster has had massive turnover since Y1. Heck JRM left and came back since then lol.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@justin_rogers
Asked Kelvin Sheppard how Malcolm Rodriguez is taking falling out of the LB rotation. Shep said he thinks it might hurt him more than the player, not finding Rodriguez snaps. Said in one-on-one conversations, he is still all smiles because the team is winning.
Asked Kelvin Sheppard how Malcolm Rodriguez is taking falling out of the LB rotation. Shep said he thinks it might hurt him more than the player, not finding Rodriguez snaps. Said in one-on-one conversations, he is still all smiles because the team is winning.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yeah he was basically QB25 year 1, and I don’t mean for fantasy,
Since Halloween 2022, the Lions are 13-3 and the top 3 quarterbacks by NFL passer rating during that time:
- Tua
- Jared Goff
- Mahomes
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I consume virtually no MSNFLM. With the proliferation of quality content providers available as podcasts and on YouTube, there is no reason to ever again tolerate the slums of ESPN, NFLN, or any major news corps.
As we used to say back in my days of being in telecom, “The difference between us and Verizon is we suck less.” They all blow chunks. IMO.
But it seeps into my feed. The IG, X, & YT algorithm send me that hot garbage & like a moth to the bug zapper I click on it.
“Boy you gotta be impressed with those kneecap biting Lions under Head Coach Motor City Dan Campbell, Jared Goff is playing some of the best ball of his career thanks to Ben Johnson [bc why would you credit the player you’ve been slandering for years], and believe it or not, Aaron Glenn’s defense might be good. Still, I’m going to have to pick the Chiefs-Packers-Bucs-Ravens this week. But keep an eye on Detroit. They could be a contender down the road.
Same regurgitated hot garbage everywhere. Oh the Lions are good, no disrespect, but like my colleagues (except for one token x-spurt taking the D) I can’t see the Lions winning in this environment.
Whatever
As we used to say back in my days of being in telecom, “The difference between us and Verizon is we suck less.” They all blow chunks. IMO.
But it seeps into my feed. The IG, X, & YT algorithm send me that hot garbage & like a moth to the bug zapper I click on it.
“Boy you gotta be impressed with those kneecap biting Lions under Head Coach Motor City Dan Campbell, Jared Goff is playing some of the best ball of his career thanks to Ben Johnson [bc why would you credit the player you’ve been slandering for years], and believe it or not, Aaron Glenn’s defense might be good. Still, I’m going to have to pick the Chiefs-Packers-Bucs-Ravens this week. But keep an eye on Detroit. They could be a contender down the road.
Same regurgitated hot garbage everywhere. Oh the Lions are good, no disrespect, but like my colleagues (except for one token x-spurt taking the D) I can’t see the Lions winning in this environment.
Whatever
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TartanLion
Footballguy
This one’s really important to me, my closest friend is a Ravens fan and we have semi regularly embarrassed ourselves against them. I’m absolutely desperate for us to go in there and put on a clinic across all 3 phases
A look back at Brad's first draft.
Round 1 (7th overall): OT Penei Sewell, Oregon.
Grade A. Dominant force on the OL. Should be sniffing all-pro status soon.
Round 2 (41st overall): DT Levi Onwuzurike, Washington
Grade D. Has never gotten over his back injury. Only seeing limited snaps in his third season and not producing much when he does.
Round 3 (72nd overall): DT Alim McNeill, NC State
Grade A. Took three seasons, but has stepped up big time. One of the best interior lineman in the league. For the third round, a steal.
Round 3 (101st overall): CB Ifeatu Melifonwu, Syracuse.
Grade C. Spot player. Inconsistent. Not someone you want starting, but decent depth piece.
Round 4 (112th overall): WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, USC
Grade A+. The steal of the draft. Perhaps the best slot reciever in the league.
Round 4 (113th overall): LB Derrick Barnes, Purdue
Grade B. Slow to develop, but has finally become a solid starter. For the 4th round, that is very good.
Round 7 (257th overall): RB Jermar Jefferson, Oregon St.
Grade C+. He was a decent sub and STer. Wasn't good enough to hang around. But a 7th rounder to even make the roster is a win.
A very very good, but not outstanding draft. 3 guys who should be Pro- Bowlers and a solid starter. The Levi pick was the only real bummer. A great start to the rebuild process.
Round 1 (7th overall): OT Penei Sewell, Oregon.
Grade A. Dominant force on the OL. Should be sniffing all-pro status soon.
Round 2 (41st overall): DT Levi Onwuzurike, Washington
Grade D. Has never gotten over his back injury. Only seeing limited snaps in his third season and not producing much when he does.
Round 3 (72nd overall): DT Alim McNeill, NC State
Grade A. Took three seasons, but has stepped up big time. One of the best interior lineman in the league. For the third round, a steal.
Round 3 (101st overall): CB Ifeatu Melifonwu, Syracuse.
Grade C. Spot player. Inconsistent. Not someone you want starting, but decent depth piece.
Round 4 (112th overall): WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, USC
Grade A+. The steal of the draft. Perhaps the best slot reciever in the league.
Round 4 (113th overall): LB Derrick Barnes, Purdue
Grade B. Slow to develop, but has finally become a solid starter. For the 4th round, that is very good.
Round 7 (257th overall): RB Jermar Jefferson, Oregon St.
Grade C+. He was a decent sub and STer. Wasn't good enough to hang around. But a 7th rounder to even make the roster is a win.
A very very good, but not outstanding draft. 3 guys who should be Pro- Bowlers and a solid starter. The Levi pick was the only real bummer. A great start to the rebuild process.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Lets be honest, it takes some good fortune too. If Brad or any GM knew St Brown would turn out like he did they would have drafted him first or second rd for sure. Right now Gibby and Williams may never reach the production St Brown is giving the Lions.
So swap St Brown out for Levi and we are still happy. Levi being a bust in the 4th does not seem so bad. That being said if Levi was a star too it only helps matters.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
****breaking news****
The city of Baltimore is under siege, Honolulu blue everywhere
The city of Baltimore is under siege, Honolulu blue everywhere
The draft haul was great by any measure, and by Lions standards easily one of their best in history. But missing on a high pick takes it down a notch. Like this year, Branch and LaPorta will easily be top 15 in any hindsight re-draft. But Gibbs and Campbell still need to pan out into key players to make this an outstanding draft.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Trues, right now Branch and LaPorta would be first rounders, Gibby and Campbell second rounders. Just swap them out.
Sewell would be taken 1 to 3 picks earlier in 2021. Agree with Branch, but not sure about a TE going top 15, definitely 1st though. Based on what we've seen, Gibbs would go 3rd or later, but there's still time for him to show more.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I think LaPorta would go in the 20-30 range first round now. Branch for sure would be in first round somewhere. 15-20 range.
Campbell would not be taken in round 1. Not that he is a bad player, he is a solid LB. Solid LBs don`t go in the first round, only dynamic LBs do and there are not many of those. I agree Gibbs would not be taken in 1. So we got basically got the same players but in the wrong order. That makes a big difference on rookie contracts.
I keep doubting Gibby for a reason. Every time I doubt a player they seem to have a big game. This is Gibbys turn..lets go.. 150 combined yards tomorrow 1-2 TDs!!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
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#Ravens CB Marlon Humphrey added to injury report with an illness. He is listed as questionable for Sunday’s game vs. Lions.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I tell you what, the way the wind was blowing today, can’t imagine we’ll see much deep or deep intermediate passing tomorrow. Forecast says more of the same. Locals say it really swirls in M&T Bank. Gonna be tough on kickers fo shur.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@PFF
Highest graded QBs on 20+ yard throws:
Highest graded QBs on 20+ yard throws:
- Jared Goff - 99.0
- Matthew Stafford - 98.1
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Kalif was just cramps
Mo I is the hospital having surgery & will remain in Baltimore
Mo I is the hospital having surgery & will remain in Baltimore
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Well that was ugly. Sorry guys. But every young team has a game like that.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Broken leg?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dislocated hip on his first NFL touch (KR)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
This was a tough one to digest. Disappointing in so many ways. With SOL a loss like this would not have bothered me a bit. This one does as this team is too good to lose like that. Reality is it should have been 35-0 at half. That just does not happen in the NFL.
I thought going in it would be a 50-50 game. One that could go either way. I could handle a 27-24 loss, 31-27. Tough road losses happen to good teams. Goff was swarmed today. Do not blame him at all. O-Line had a rough game. Gibby showed some flashes late. Jamo still looks lost out there. TJ Lang said he thinks Jamo ran wrong route on the Goff INT. Goff though he was going opposite way, was not open either way and had no impact on result but needs to be cleaned up fast.
Time to regroup. Good thing is the schedule lightens up in Lions favor. Just need to get healthy. 11-6 wins the division. 12-5 even better.
I thought going in it would be a 50-50 game. One that could go either way. I could handle a 27-24 loss, 31-27. Tough road losses happen to good teams. Goff was swarmed today. Do not blame him at all. O-Line had a rough game. Gibby showed some flashes late. Jamo still looks lost out there. TJ Lang said he thinks Jamo ran wrong route on the Goff INT. Goff though he was going opposite way, was not open either way and had no impact on result but needs to be cleaned up fast.
Time to regroup. Good thing is the schedule lightens up in Lions favor. Just need to get healthy. 11-6 wins the division. 12-5 even better.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Can't emphasize enough how important Monday night is. Take care of business and you are 6-2 going into the bye week.
