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According to this, there is no guaranteed money for Goff after this season, so the Lions can move on without taking a hit.
Compare that to what Bill Belichick did to the Lions, dumping his 2 worst employees in Quinn & Patricia on them.
Right, 2021 is tanking in disguise, which a roster as bad as this one needs to do. This move was about getting on a corrective path in 22 then hopefully start competing in 23.
All indications are the Rams had to give Detroit a 1st just to take Goff so that makes me think no team is giving the Lions anything for Goff. This was an NBA style trade where the Rams had to pay for the Lions to take on a bad asset.
Assuming the Lions have the cap space (and willing to spend the cash), one option would be to convert salary to roster bonus, pay Goff, eat the cap hit,, then deal a more palatable contract
The Lions are looking at this from a 2022+ lens. The way the former group structured contracts they had little flexibility this season, but they may be able to open up a brinks truck of funding starting next season. Gotta endure some pain first though.
They have the ability to play it by ear. Unless they "really" love one of these guys then the smart move is to wait to see who falls, if no one does then so be it. They don't have an emergency need for a QB now.
I distinctly recall during the pre-draft process where Goff seemed 'off' and I couldn't put my finger on it but then saw this:
Last year he had a thumb injury and his relationship with Sean McVay had gotten bad.
Capella isn't a Lions fan. He's a Bucs guy.
Agreed. Its not like they're not going to be in position to draft a top qb in the 2022 draft.
It's a mess, no doubt. Just looking right now, they could cut Trufant (6.2m), Coleman (4.9m), Williams (4.7m), Shelton (4.0m), Jones (2.6m), & James (2.1m) opening up 24.5m. Some of those will happen regardless, as the Goff contract puts them an estimated 11 mil over the cap. I just see with no Goff, those cuts leave you ~40.5m under. With Goff, those cuts get you ~13.5 under. I would rather have had 40m in cap space and have signed a Tyrod Taylor than have Goff.
I like this too... this year the draft involves more gamble than it ordinarily does. Nice to have those picks in years where things will be closer to normal for scouting purposes.
Because Stafford has never had good coaches or a decent team around him. His coaches in his career have been Jim Schwartz, Jim Caldwell, and Matt Patricia, and hes never had a legit running game.
I get what you're saying, but free agents don't make much sense on rebuilding teams. By the time the team starts to turn the corner those acquisitions are either/both nearing the end of their term and/or heading down the age bell curve. Additionally, I think it's fair to expect some of these teams in bad cap situations to kick the can down to 22. Bargains won't be limited to just this season.
So you're saying the people that get paid to know things about Football believe Stafford is really good then. It doesn't mean they will be right, but there's that old saying about taking the butcher's word for it.
The eye test as well. Stafford makes throws that Goff couldn’t dream of. Stafford has carried the team where Goff often seemed more like he was riding the wave. Plus I think Stafford took a turn maybe 6-7 years ago. He got into shape and really improved his play.
If they get anything for Goff, I'll be thrilled. A day 2 pick would be fantastic. I will be really surprised though, Goff has struggled often while in a fantastic situation, which this most definitely is not.
You won't always get a chance at drafting a QB like Fields. I think he'll be gone by 1.07, maybe to the Falcons. Lance should be there, unless a team like the Panthers trade up. The Lions have so many needs, a trade down would also make sense.
In terms of ability, no. Lions were 5-11 with Stafford though and can be 5-11 without him.
Free agent bargains aren't going to sign 3+ year contracts at a depressed rate. Won't help them when they are ready to compete.
No need for Goff on this team. Time to roll the dice like the Browns did and accumulate as many picks as possible and practice biting knee caps and losing games this coming season. Take a sandwich for Goff if needed, just get rid of the contract. Not sure who in their right mind would want to take him though. Elway in Denver would be my target as he is probably most desperate at this point.
Anyone whos's watched both a few times would say the same. McVay has created one of the most QB-friendly offenses in the league, and Goff still managed to look bad in it more often than not.
You don't think the Rams explored trading him and getting something in return instead of having to toss way a 1st round pick?
I think Goff gives them options which is what it is all about. The team can start the rebuild with him and will be bad but won't be so embarrassingly bad that it kills morale. Goff is probably on par with Cousins and better than anyone the Bears have. We can be bad but respectable. That is really important IMO.
If not Goff it would be Chase Daniels and he blows too. I doubt the Lions resign Golladay.
Things change fast in the NFL. The Rams aren't the Chiefs and I don't think we can begin to speculate on where those picks end up. The Rams went from 4-12 in 2016 and then won 24 games over the next 2 seasons. Bucs went from 7 wins to a SB appearance in 1 offseason. The Bears are a great example. Here's their record the last 5 years: 8-8, 8-8, 12-4, 5-11, 3-13. Totally unpredictable as they could be 500, could be bottom barrel, could be among the top in the league.
That makes perfect sense as a bridge option, albeit a very overpriced one for a very average QB. I would be careful though with any expectation, as he can possibly look worse than he has. Remember, he is coming from a very QB-friendly system.
Don’t have to go back that far to realize how this could work out really well for Detroit. Nobody in their right mind thought that Houston’s 2021 first rounder would be the third pick in the draft when they had a 24-0 lead over the Chiefs in the playoffs last year.
Great example. Given the age of the key players in LA, the lack of 1st round picks and how their coaches/management has been raided by other teams this offseason and how tough their division is, it is very easy to visualize how the Rams fail.
