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2025 Detroit Lions: 1-1 Lion crush Da Bears. Still seats available on the Bandwagon. (180 Viewers)

Hoop Dreams

As a nod to March Madness, the Lions posted of some of their guys playing h.s. basketball

Jared Goff, Jah Gibbs, Terrion Arnold, Hogan Hatten, Tim Patrick, Jack Campbell, Sam LaPorta, Taylor Decker

Campbell was the C & leading rebounder on back to back 4A state champs; lousy free throw shooter, but in the semis one year he hit both ends of a 1-and-1 with a few seconds left to seal the game
 

As Lions' roster talent holds steady, here's what division foes and other NFC contenders have done this offseason

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Justin Rogers

If you're here, you likely have a good sense of what the Detroit Lions have accomplished so far this offseason.

To recap, the team has heavily invested in retaining its own free agents, re-signing key contributors such as Derrick Barnes, Levi Onwuzurike and Tim Patrick. They made one splash addition, bringing in cornerback D.J. Reed to replace the departing Carlton Davis III, then supplemented the depth chart with several more signings, including Roy Lopez, Grant Stuard, Avonte Maddox and Kenny Yeboah.

The Lions have lost some players in free agency, too, but none that were unexpected. Kevin Zeitler and Ifeatu Melifonwu joined Davis on the departures list. Zeitler leaving would sting more if the team didn't have Christian Mahogany waiting in the wings for a starting job. Additionally, the team declined the option on Za'Darius Smith's contract, opting instead to run it back with Marcus Davenport at a fraction of the cost.

All in all, the Lions are treading water with the roster following last year's 15-2 season, banking on better health as the needed improvement to counteract a challenging schedule as the franchise pursues its first Super Bowl.

Of course, the other teams in the division and contenders across the NFC are gunning for the same prize. In case you haven't been paying attention to what's been going on across the conference, let's explore the shifting landscape ahead of next month's draft.

We'll start with the three division foes before evaluating the other five contenders, which we've generously defined as teams with Super Bowl odds of 30-to-1 or better.

NFC North​

Chicago Bears​

Before making any roster moves, the Bears completed their biggest offseason decision, hiring Ben Johnson away from Detroit to serve as the franchise's next head coach. He's going to call plays for an offense that finished 28th in scoring last year, and he brought on experienced and respected coordinator Dennis Allen to elevate the team's defense.

In terms of personnel, general manager Ryan Poles wasted little time re-shaping Chicago's trenches for the new coaching staff. Notable efforts were made to improve an offensive line that allowed a league-high 68 sacks last season. Poles picked up guards Joe Thuney and Jonah Jackson in trades and signed Drew Dalman, widely believed to be the best center available in free agency.

The other changes on offense have been modest. Wide receiver Keenan Allen, 32, remains a free agent after catching 70 passes for 744 yards last season. The team added a couple of cheaper alternatives in Olamide Zaccheaus and Devin Duvernay to round out a corps headlined by D.J. Moore and Rome Odunze, a first-round pick from a year ago.

Defensively, Chicago spent big to bolster its defensive front, inking defensive tackle Grady Jarrett and edge rusher Dayo Odeyingbo to three-year deals, both valued north of $40 million.

Assuming Johnson can work similar magic to when he took over a dreadful Detroit offense in 2022, turning the unit into a perennial top-five performer, Chicago should easily improve on its five wins from a year ago. The team holds the No. 10 pick in April's draft and could use the selection to continue building up its offensive line, or to snag a top running back like Boise State's Ashton Jeanty to further mimic how Johnson had success in Detroit.

Verdict: Improved

Green Bay Packers​

After signing a pair of impact performers in safety Xavier McKinney (first-team All-Pro) and running back Josh Jacobs (Pro Bowler) in 2024, the Packers have been more conservative in free agency this offseason.

The team’s biggest move was adding guard Aaron Banks with a massive four-year, $77 million contract. That will allow Elgton Jenkins to move to center, replacing Josh Myers, a below-average run blocker who gave up 29 pass-rush pressures last season.

Green Bay also added cornerback Nate Hobbs. He’s played mostly in the slot during his pro career, but he has the versatility to play outside. He could replace oft-injured Jaire Alexander, who is expected to be traded or cut in the coming weeks.

Offensively, the Packers signed speedy receiver Mecole Hardman, who hasn’t done much the past three seasons since posting a career-high 693 yards for the Chiefs in 2021.

In terms of losses, Green Bay said goodbye to Myers, running back A.J. Dillon, and defensive contributors T.J. Slaton, Eric Wilson and Eric Stokes.

The Packers hold the No. 23 pick in the draft.

Verdict: Holding steady

Minnesota Vikings​

If you read the tea leaves before free agency, you had a good idea which way the Vikings were leaning at quarterback. Despite a breakout performance, the team let Sam Darnold walk in free agency, committing to last year’s first-round pick, J.J. McCarthy.

Like Chicago, the Vikings have focused on their trenches this offseason. To improve McCarthy’s chances of succeeding, the team paid big money to lure guard Will Fries from Indianapolis, later adding former Colts teammate, center Ryan Kelly.

Minnesota also added some weapons for their young QB, trading for San Francisco running back Jordan Mason (5.3 yards per carry) and signing another speedy receiver in Rondale Moore after he missed last season with a knee injury.

The team still needs to address the depth chart behind McCarthy. In addition to Darnold going to Seattle, backups Daniel Jones and Nick Mullens also departed in free agency. Brett Rypien is the only other QB under contract.

Defensively, Minnesota supercharged the interior of its defensive line with a pair of accomplished veterans, Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave.

In the secondary, the team retained cornerback Byron Murphy (three years, $54 million) and longtime stalwart Harrison Smith at safety but lost Cameron Bynum. Starting cornerback Stephon Gilmore also remains a free agent. He’s likely being replaced by Isaiah Rodgers, who looked good in limited opportunities as a reserve for Philadelphia last season. The Vikings also added former Lions first-rounder Jeff Okudah to their depth chart.

With Brian Flores returning as defensive coordinator, the Vikings figure to remain formidable on that side of the ball. Offensively, it hinges on how quickly McCarthy can adapt after missing his rookie year with an injury. If anyone can get the former Michigan standout up to speed quickly, it’s reigning Coach of the Year, Kevin O’Connell.

The Vikings hold the No. 24 pick in the draft.

Verdict: Improved, contingent on McCarthy’s success

"Strength of schedule" is sometimes overrated due to team injuries, time of the year you play them, etc. This includes what place you finished in last year and what 3 out of 17 games changes based on last year's division record. For the second straight year the Lions will play a first place schedule. But the two divisions you play outside your own, that make up 8 games that everyone in your division plays are what seems to drive protected win totals even more. For instance the NFC North is only projected to win 37 games vs 45 last year. That's even allowing for the Bears total being 8.5 vs the 5 they won in 2024. Playing the Easts vs playing the Souths could make a big difference for everyone.

2025 projected win totals:

Lions 10.5
Pack 9.5
Vikings 8.5
Bears 8.5

First business besides making the playoffs is winning what could be a very tight division (only 7 of the 59 SBs have been won by a wildcard, and only one in the last 10+).
 
Sure it’s a tough road schedule. The Lions are a tough road team - 8-0 last year, 18-4 (.818) since Week 9 2022. 7-1 v NFC North. Losses to CAR, BAL, CHI, DAL.

2025 Detroit Lions Schedule​

at Baltimore

at Chicago

at Cincinnati

at Green Bay​

at Kansas City​

at LA Rams​

at Minnesota​

at Philadelphia​

at Washington​


17-5 (.773) at home over that same period. 8-1 v NFCN. Losses to BUF, SEA, GB, TB, BUF.

vs Chicago​

vs Cleveland​

vs Green Bay​

vs Minnesota​

vs Dallas​

vs NY Giants​

vs Pittsburgh

vs Tampa Bay​


15-2 (.882) - 6-0 last year when the North set a record for most regular season wins by a division - stacks up with anyone in the league in terms of intradivision dominance.
 
Sure it’s a tough road schedule. The Lions are a tough road team - 8-0 last year, 18-4 (.818) since Week 9 2022. 7-1 v NFC North. Losses to CAR, BAL, CHI, DAL.

2025 Detroit Lions Schedule​

at Baltimore

at Chicago

at Cincinnati

at Green Bay​

at Kansas City​

at LA Rams​

at Minnesota​

at Philadelphia​

at Washington​


17-5 (.773) at home over that same period. 8-1 v NFCN. Losses to BUF, SEA, GB, TB, BUF.

vs Chicago​

vs Cleveland​

vs Green Bay​

vs Minnesota​

vs Dallas​

vs NY Giants​

vs Pittsburgh

vs Tampa Bay​


15-2 (.882) - 6-0 last year when the North set a record for most regular season wins by a division - stacks up with anyone in the league in terms of intradivision dominance.
Not going 15-2 with that schedule. Also interesting that their easier games are at home. Which makes it more difficult to go 15-2 but increases playoff probability.
 
Sure it’s a tough road schedule. The Lions are a tough road team - 8-0 last year, 18-4 (.818) since Week 9 2022. 7-1 v NFC North. Losses to CAR, BAL, CHI, DAL.

2025 Detroit Lions Schedule​

at Baltimore

at Chicago

at Cincinnati

at Green Bay​

at Kansas City​

at LA Rams​

at Minnesota​

at Philadelphia​

at Washington​


17-5 (.773) at home over that same period. 8-1 v NFCN. Losses to BUF, SEA, GB, TB, BUF.

vs Chicago​

vs Cleveland​

vs Green Bay​

vs Minnesota​

vs Dallas​

vs NY Giants​

vs Pittsburgh

vs Tampa Bay​


15-2 (.882) - 6-0 last year when the North set a record for most regular season wins by a division - stacks up with anyone in the league in terms of intradivision dominance.
Not going 15-2 with that schedule. Also interesting that their easier games are at home. Which makes it more difficult to go 15-2 but increases playoff probability.
That's ok...not many teams go 15-2. They could have a better team than last year and go something like 12-5. I'm more worried about the time it will take to acclimate with the new coordinators than I am with the schedule.
 
Sure it’s a tough road schedule. The Lions are a tough road team - 8-0 last year, 18-4 (.818) since Week 9 2022. 7-1 v NFC North. Losses to CAR, BAL, CHI, DAL.

2025 Detroit Lions Schedule​

at Baltimore

at Chicago

at Cincinnati

at Green Bay​

at Kansas City​

at LA Rams​

at Minnesota​

at Philadelphia​

at Washington​


17-5 (.773) at home over that same period. 8-1 v NFCN. Losses to BUF, SEA, GB, TB, BUF.

vs Chicago​

vs Cleveland​

vs Green Bay​

vs Minnesota​

vs Dallas​

vs NY Giants​

vs Pittsburgh

vs Tampa Bay​


15-2 (.882) - 6-0 last year when the North set a record for most regular season wins by a division - stacks up with anyone in the league in terms of intradivision dominance.
Not going 15-2 with that schedule. Also interesting that their easier games are at home. Which makes it more difficult to go 15-2 but increases playoff probability.
That's ok...not many teams go 15-2. They could have a better team than last year and go something like 12-5. I'm more worried about the time it will take to acclimate with the new coordinators than I am with the schedule.

It's exceedingly rare. Most wins in a regular season, all-time:
  1. 2007 Patriots 16-0
  2. 1984 49ers 15-1
  3. 1985 Bears 15-1
  4. 1998 Vikings 15-1
  5. 2004 Steelers 15-1
  6. 2011 Packers 15-1
  7. 2015 Panthers 15-1
  8. 2024 Chiefs 15-2
  9. 2024 Lions 15--2
Fewest losses
  • 0 - 7 times in NFL history. Three teams in the 1920s (all had 1 or 2 ties), the Bears twice in the Championship game era (lost both times), the '07 Pats (18-1), and the 1972 Dolphins (14-0.)
  • 1 - 24 times. By decade: 1920s - 3, 1930s - 0, 1940s - 6, 1950s - 2, 1960s - 4, 1970s - 1, 1980s* - 4, 1990s - 1, 2000s - 1, 2010s - 2. Two of the teams from '82 were a 9 g season.
  • 2 - in the 43 seasons there were 16 games, 22 teams went 14-2.
  • 2 - in the 4 seasons there have been 17 games, only Detroit and Kansas City in 2024 have gone 15-2.
There have been 1432 team seasons since 1978, over 12,000 games played. In the last 47 league years (1432 teams), 33 finished with 2 or less losses.
 
[Justin Rogers]

Asked AG about what he learned about D.J. Reed, given the coach researched his personnel ahead of free agency. Thought the answer was worth sharing.

"Listen, I remember DJ -- DJ, I think he started in San Francisco. Did he play in San Francisco? And then he was in Seattle, correct? Listen, he was scrappy, feisty. I ended up talking to DJ quite a bit before that, just from his free agency from coming out. I just thought he was a man's man, as far as playing the game. He's not just a cover corner; he's one that'll go out there and tackle, too. I think Detroit is getting a dynamic player at corner."
 

Kalif Raymond takes pay cut, restructure—eliminating 2026 cap hit

Kalif Raymond sees his 2025 guarantees double as he helps the Detroit Lions eliminate a 2026 cap hit.

The Detroit Lions and wide receiver/punt returner Kalif Raymond have agreed to a contract restructuring that has benefits for both parties.

Over his first five seasons as a professional, Raymond bounced around practice squads and active rosters of multiple teams. Then in 2021, he signed with the Lions during this regime's first season in Detroit. Not only was Raymond a staple on offense and special teams, but he received a new two-year contract in 2022. That season, Raymond earned his first All-Pro recognition as a punt returner (second-team), and with it came a new contract extending through the 2025 season.

After earning another second-team All-Pro honor as a punt returner in 2024, Raymond entered the final year of his contract, with a scheduled 2025 salary cap hit of $6.45 million and $3.1 million in guarantees. Raymond’s contract also carried a voided year which was scheduled to add another $1.55 million to the Lions 2026 salary cap.

However, a recent contract renegotiation between the Lions and Raymond has created a new 2025 contract. In the new deal, Raymond takes a pay cut to his overall contract, yet receives a slight pay raise in 2025, along with a significant increase in guaranteed money. Meanwhile, the Lions recoup salary cap space from Raymond’s total contract, the majority of which will be most impactful on the 2026 salary cap.

With help from OverTheCap.com, Spotrac.com, and our past contract breakdowns, Jeremy Reisman and I have been able to track the changes to Raymond’s contract, which will be broken down in the next section. If you prefer to stay out of the weeds of the contract, skip to the final TL:DR section at the end of this piece for a summary.

Kalif Raymond’s new 2025 contract with the Lions

Raymond’s contract is broken down into five sections: Base salary, prorated signing bonus, prorated option bonus, game roster bonus, and workout bonus.

In the new contract, the Lions included a $1.5M prorated restructure bonus, then added $260,000 to his game bonuses and $110,000 to his workout bonus. Additionally, they also pulled Raymond’s voided year dead cap ($1.55M in prorated bonuses) from 2026 into 2025. These moves total $3.42M in new financial additions.

To offset this cost, the Lions reduced Raymond’s base salary from $4.35M to $1.83M, freeing up $2.52M for redistribution. And to even the rest out, Raymond agreed to take a $900,000 pay cut, bringing the contract level.

Why does Raymond make the deal: Guaranteed money doubles

To compensate Raymond for taking a pay cut, the Lions increased the guaranteed money in his contract, which increases the likelihood he will make the active roster, and in turn, will receive his contract in full. In addition to guaranteeing Raymond’s restructuring bonus ($1.5M), they also fully guaranteed his base salary ($1.83M). When this is combined with his already guaranteed signing bonus ($1.55M) and voided year ($1.55M), Raymond now has $6.43M in guarantees for 2025.

Why the Lions make the deal: Free up $1.55M in 2026 salary cap

From a cap perspective, by pulling the voided year forward, the Lions moved $1.55M from 2026 into 2025. However, Raymond’s $900,000 pay cut is removed from that total and his game roster bonus was adjusted saving another $150,000 (he only played in 12 games in 2024, making these funds a “not likely to be earned” incentive). That leaves $500,000 in new money that will be added to Raymond’s cap hit in 2025. In total, the Lions will add $500,000 to the 2025 cap, but remove $1.55M from the 2026 salary cap.

TL;DR

The Lions restructured Raymond’s existing contract saving between $900,000 and $1.05M, pending “not likely to be earned” bonuses. The maneuvers to make this happen did add $500,000 to this year’s salary cap, however, the Lions were able to remove Raymond’s 2026 voided year, saving $1.55M from next year’s salary cap.

To compensate Raymond, the Lions more than doubled the guaranteed money in his contract, thus basically assuring that he will see the full value of the new deal.
 
[Justin Rogers]

Asked AG about what he learned about D.J. Reed, given the coach researched his personnel ahead of free agency. Thought the answer was worth sharing.

"Listen, I remember DJ -- DJ, I think he started in San Francisco. Did he play in San Francisco? And then he was in Seattle, correct? Listen, he was scrappy, feisty. I ended up talking to DJ quite a bit before that, just from his free agency from coming out. I just thought he was a man's man, as far as playing the game. He's not just a cover corner; he's one that'll go out there and tackle, too. I think Detroit is getting a dynamic player at corner."

more fm Justin:

Here's what AG had to say about Brad Holmes and the challenges minority candidates have had landing GM jobs:

"Listen, I think Brad has his own style of doing things. And I think he does a really good job at that. His communication with not just the head coach but all the coaches, I think, was phenomenal. And understanding exactly what the team needs, as far as positions and making sure that defense, offense (and) special teams are successful. I don't care what color (he is). Just the way he goes about his business, he deserves to be a GM and I think he's one of the better GMs in this league."



Here's what Shane Steichen said about Grant Stuard:

"He's great. Ultimate competitor, loves football, he's going to bring great energy to that building. Phenomenal human being, too."
 

Donovan Jackson, G, Ohio State​

Thoughts: Brooks is thinking like Crabbs, conveniently plugging one of Detroit's more obvious long-term concerns in this mock. With Booker off the board in the projection, Brooks shifts to Jackson as the Lions' choice.

Like Booker, Jackson's primary experience has come at left guard. That adds to the convenience and fit of the selection. While he hasn't tested during the pre-draft process, he's a more athletic mover in space than his Alabama counterpart on film. Jackson also has an adequately nasty demeanor that comes with consistently churning legs and a finisher's mentality in the run game.

Playing guard all of 2023 and the first five games of 2024, Jackson was solid in pass protection, surrendering a single sack. He was a little shakier when pressed into moving to left tackle to address an injury situation. Still, the fact that he was even asked to take on that challenge and capably performed for the National Champions says plenty about his ability.

Grade: B+
As much as I am on Team D this draft I wouldn't be complaining too much with a quality OL as a high pick. Everything runs through these guys. The running game, protecting the QB, keeping the defense off the field. Setting the tone.

This is why I wanted one big splash or two small ones on the defensive line in free agency/trade. Thos draft is great for either line and the Lion's line is great for now.

Both Decker and Glasgow will be 33 before the season starts and Ragnow is young age wise, but injuries make it much mote likely he will retire earlier rather than later.
Join me in giving up this battle. It's been refreshing.
 
Lions have added Brazil to marketing rights. Last year, they got Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Canada.

"Clubs are awarded rights for a five-year term through the program and during this period can pursue activities that are consistent with what they can do in their home domestic market, in their awarded international markets. "



Day 3 name to remember

LB Shaun Dolac, Buffalo

Lions were 1 of 3 NFL teams who attended his Pro Day. Tape on this guy is fantastic.

2024: 152 tackles - 6 sacks - 5 INT - 1 TD

Run D, Tackling & Coverage grades >90
 

Donovan Jackson, G, Ohio State​

Thoughts: Brooks is thinking like Crabbs, conveniently plugging one of Detroit's more obvious long-term concerns in this mock. With Booker off the board in the projection, Brooks shifts to Jackson as the Lions' choice.

Like Booker, Jackson's primary experience has come at left guard. That adds to the convenience and fit of the selection. While he hasn't tested during the pre-draft process, he's a more athletic mover in space than his Alabama counterpart on film. Jackson also has an adequately nasty demeanor that comes with consistently churning legs and a finisher's mentality in the run game.

Playing guard all of 2023 and the first five games of 2024, Jackson was solid in pass protection, surrendering a single sack. He was a little shakier when pressed into moving to left tackle to address an injury situation. Still, the fact that he was even asked to take on that challenge and capably performed for the National Champions says plenty about his ability.

Grade: B+
As much as I am on Team D this draft I wouldn't be complaining too much with a quality OL as a high pick. Everything runs through these guys. The running game, protecting the QB, keeping the defense off the field. Setting the tone.

This is why I wanted one big splash or two small ones on the defensive line in free agency/trade. Thos draft is great for either line and the Lion's line is great for now.

Both Decker and Glasgow will be 33 before the season starts and Ragnow is young age wise, but injuries make it much mote likely he will retire earlier rather than later.
Join me in giving up this battle. It's been refreshing.

I am not as vested as you. It isn't going to bother me if others disagree or if I am wrong. We are just talking here and no one gets them all correct.
 
Key points in an article from behind the paywall at the Detroit News website regarding Za'Darius Smith:

"We couldn't afford it," Holmes said. "That's the bottom line. That was my communication with him and he understood that."

By releasing Smith, who had one year left on his deal, the Lions incurred $5.7 million in cap savings for the 2025 season and $5.2 million in 2026. With the timing of his release, the Lions avoided being on the hook for a $2 million option bonus that would have been converted into dead cap if the Lions had released him on March 15 or later.

Holmes said it was an "amicable" split and the two parties remain in contact.

We've been keeping in touch with his agent, and he understands that process, so we'll just see how it goes."
 
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To me the 2026 option was the biggest reason they released him. They have a huge cap number next year. A big chunk will be restructuring Goff's contract but there's work to be done.

I still think there's a good chance that Smith will be back, maybe a one year deal similar to what Zeitler got last year.
 
John Cominsky announced that he is medically retiring from the NFL. He said the injuries he has accumulated have overwhelmed his desire to play.
 

Full recap of Lions GM Holmes' wide-ranging talk of team's free agency and future roster decisions


West Palm Beach, Fla. — Detroit Lions general manager Brad Holmes met with local media who traveled to the league meetings Monday morning. Here are the highlights from that half-hour conversation.

Recapping and resetting free agency

After offering up a warning that the team likely wouldn’t be in the market for splash additions at the combine last month, Holmes said the Lions were able to accomplish more in free agency than he had anticipated.

That was headlined by the signing of cornerback D.J. Reed.

“More than happy with what we were able to do,” Holmes said. “Look, we love D.J. Reed. You're talking about a guy that literally just fit who we are like a glove. Very gritty and tenacious. He’s scheme-diverse. I really was impressed with his man-to-man coverage snaps. He’s feisty, he’ll tackle, he’ll support on the edge. So he fits us.”

Additionally, Holmes was surprised the team could be so effective in addressing its defensive line, particularly the agreement they were able to reach with Levi Onwuzurike.

“If you were to tell me that we were gonna get that done back when we were first trying to get Levi extended back in the fall, I would have been doing a backflip, and literally almost was doing a backflip,” Holmes said. “Because, like I said, I did not think that we were going to be able to get a player of his caliber back, along with how expensive that corner market got, and I knew that we had to be in that corner market.”

One player the Lions didn't retain was Za’Darius Smith. They let him go before a $7 million option bonus kicked in.

“It was an amicable decision,” Holmes said. “We couldn't afford it is the bottom line. You know? That was my communication with him and he understood that. Again, that's an expensive position. Like I told you guys at the combine, it's not being ignored. Everybody is asking for one defensive end. No, we'd love to get three or four. It's something that's not being ignored, we just weren't in a position to keep him at his salary. Because, look, he played some good snaps for us and he made plays for us when we acquired him, so we would have loved to be able to keep him. We just weren't able to.”

Holmes acknowledged he has been staying in contact with Smith’s representation in case the veteran’s market settled closer to a range the Lions felt they could afford.

But more than anything, Holmes continued to drive home the point that all of the team’s roster moves this offseason are looking to the future, when the team has large bills coming due for talent they’ve recently signed to extensions and others they hope to sign to extensions.

“This analogy popped in my head this morning: You have financial responsibilities,” Holmes explained. “You have a mortgage, or your kid's college fund, your 529, you have insurance you have to pay. You know you have to pay for those things. But that might require that you can't take the vacation you really want right now this summer. So, that's kind of where we are right now.

“We had so many of these young players that have been on rookie deals, and we've been enjoying the impact that they've all been bringing,” Holmes continued. “But now, a bill is coming. What you spend this year is going to impact next year. It even impacts 2027. So, that's the discipline that we have to adhere to.

“It's not the fans' job to know all of the details,” Holmes said. “I don't expect them to understand that. And if I was just a fan, as much as I love our fans, I'd be the same way. Like, hey, 'Splash! Get guys. Spend the money. Let's go.' But I just wanted to make sure the fans understand that we're being disciplined in our approach because we're trying to win now and also sustain what we want to do."

Holmes said the team is likely done adding big-money free agents, noting there are some younger players on the roster they want to take a closer look at this offseason.

"Look, there's still guys out there that we're staying in contact with,” Holmes said. “For right now, the higher-dollar guys, we're probably past that point now. We're kind of more in the lower deals, whatever that's third wave (or) whatever wave it is now.

“We're still monitoring, but what happens is now you get to a point that we have a lot of young players on our team that we're still excited about,” Holmes said. “It may not be players that have gotten a lion's share of snaps in the regular season of last year, but that we've been watching throughout the year that we're really excited about. It gets to the point now where it's like, 'Well, do you want to add another veteran that you might not be as excited about, but you might be a little bit more excited about this second-year guy that probably spent a little bit of time on the practice squad, got active a little bit of time?'“

Extension watch

Holmes expects Alim McNeill's recovery (ACL) to carry into the regular season. However, there's confidence Aidan Hutchinson will be ready to go.

"I mean, look, we don't have a crystal ball on anything," Holmes said. "We're just gonna see where it's at. But I've seen enough movement and mobility on running in this stage that I feel very confident about where he's gonna be at."
As pressing as Hutchinson's short-term future is, his long-term status with the franchise is also of interest. He's up for a long-term extension, and the franchise would love to get one done this offseason.

That said, the going rate has ballooned in recent weeks following new deals for Maxx Crosby and Myles Garrett, with the latter getting $40 million per year from the Browns.

Holmes wasn't surprised.

"Look, it is what it is," he said. "We had it in that range, kind of already, when we do our future planning and budgeting. But then obviously, when it goes up, it just goes up, and that's just what you gotta prepare for. I don't know what it'll end up being. That's the difficult part about our job, but we work really hard in terms of the prediction forecasting of that market. He's just one of many that we've had to budget."

Another one in that group being budgeted for is safety Kerby Joseph.

"He's a player that we want to keep and, you know, we've let that be known," Holmes said. "He's a fit for us, for our team. He's a really good player, but in terms of the timing, you know, we'll just kind of see where it goes."
 
One year at a time with Jamo

Teams have another month before they must pick up the fifth-year option on first-round draft picks from the 2022 draft. Still, the Lions have pretty much made up their mind with receiver Jameson Williams.

"Look, it's heading that way," Holmes said. "We're most likely gonna be doing that. Look, he was a tremendous player for us last year. He's still scratching the surface. I do think he's got more in him as well. So I just think it just makes sense for us to do what we can to keep him around."

But asked if the team was considering a long-term extension in addition to or instead of the one-year option, Holmes wasn't as committed to the idea as he was with Hutchinson and Joseph.

"We're still taking it as it goes," Holmes said. "Look, his fifth-year option, it's looking likely that we'll just pick that up, but in terms of extension, again, there's a lot of extensions that are hopefully coming. It's just one that you just don't know what's going to happen from a financial standpoint, because a wide receiver, it's expensive. It's very expensive.

"Look, these are good problems to have, but I just want to make sure that — more so our fans — I don't want our fans to think that we're just not making the splashy moves because we don't want to do that. It's just we're being disciplined to make sure that we're able to sustain winning, but also win now."

A guard is still in play

Holmes made a point to acknowledge the team wasn't able to bring back everyone it wanted to because they got priced out of the market.
"I do think that's part of the discipline that's required for where we're at as a football team right now," Holmes said.

The GM confirmed that guard Kevin Zeitler fit in that bucket, so I asked how much the move also spoke to the franchise's confidence in second-year lineman Christian Mahogany.

"Look, it's a small sample size of the starts that he played, (but) they were promising, they were encouraging," Holmes said. "We do feel like he has starter-level ability, but he is still a young player, so we still need to make sure that he has competition."

Holmes specifically pointed to the recent re-signing of Kayode Awosika, while simultaneously noting the team wasn't necessarily done adding to the position group.

"We'll still be looking at possibly another veteran to add, and you still have the draft," Holmes said. "Look, I'm not saying it's always going to be in the sixth round where we got Mahogany, but you just never know when we're going to be able to get one of those guys."

I also asked whether the team projected Mahogany as more of a right guard or if they trusted him to play either side long-term.

"Yeah, he did most of his college on the right side," Holmes said. "I think he can do both. He's done both early on, before he had a — when he got sick or whatever with the mono deal. We had him doing both in OTAs. He can play both."

Competition everywhere

In a recent mailbag, I wrote the following about the signing of veteran quarterback Kyle Allen in relation to Hendon Hooker.

"Allen's contract information is out, and we now know the Lions didn't commit much to the signing. Only $100,000 of the deal is guaranteed. That's a reasonable price to pay to have someone pushing Hendon Hooker for the backup job. Why should he be exempt from competition? Isn't competition critical to bringing the best out of players?"

Holmes was asked what Allen's addition meant, and my assessment of the situation was rubber-stamped.

"Look, it's just competition," Holmes said. "That's all it is. I mean, look, we like Hendon. (We're) excited about him. …he had the injury that first year, then last year that was the first year that he kind of was able to do a full year of training camp and during the season. And then we brought Teddy Bridgewater in just because we were gearing up for the playoffs, and postseason and he just wasn't ready yet, you know? And he understood that. But still got high hopes for him. But nobody's gonna be given a job either. So if Hendon wants to be the number two quarterback, then win the No. 2 quarterback job."

As noted in the mailbag, Allen is not a camp arm. He's legitimate competition for the backup job. Still, all signs point to it being Hooker's job to lose.

Need to see more

Holmes doesn’t want the addition of Reed to be viewed as an indictment of Ennis Rakestraw’s future with the franchise. But after an injury-riddled rookie season, the Lions didn’t have enough information to feel comfortable relying on the youngster in a significant defensive role in 2025.

“I knew that we had to be in that corner market,” Holmes said. “That’s not anything against Rakestraw. We’re still excited about Rakestraw, but unfortunately, he had injuries, and he wasn’t healthy enough to provide us a little bit more clarity in terms of where he was gonna be. So, I didn’t think it was going to be rational for us to depend on him.

A pair of hamstring injuries limited Rakestraw to eight games and 46 defensive snaps last season. Holmes believes the addition of Reed will only light a bigger fire under Rakestraw.

“I know how Rakestraw’s wired and this is going to fuel him to be ready and compete,” Holmes said.

Time to put it together

Using the example of Reed and Rakestraw, I asked Holmes if he had a similar view of defensive tackle Brodric Martin following the signing of Roy Lopez in free agency. Earlier in the conversation, the general manager confirmed the team sees Lopez more of an early-down option, like DJ Reader, leaving lingering questions about where Martin, a third-round pick in 2023, fits going forward.

Holmes acknowledges it's time for the developmental lineman to turn a corner

"Brodric, look, he's got to be consistent," Holmes said. "Obviously, you guys all know I was very clear and transparent that, you know, he was more in the developmental project bucket when we took him. But, you know, now it's time for him not to just — because he brought flashes in the preseason. When he came from his injury, he brought flashes, but he had some low points as well. So, we need to see more of the consistency of the flashes, and he just needs to be a consistent player.

"He knows that," Holmes said. "We've had transparent conversations, and so, he knows that he needs to be a consistent player. He's got all the ability, he's got all the physical tools to be a consistent player."

The Lions moved up to the end of the third round to select Martin, who has unteachable size and length for his position. They gave up three Day 3 picks to Arizona to make that move up the board.

Martin played just 28 snaps as a rookie but looked primed to take a step forward in his second season before his momentum was derailed by a knee injury in the last stages of the preseason. He finished the year appearing in only two games. He was a healthy scratch for much of the second half of the season.
 
MCDC has a morning presser, which I'll post about when I find time.

Rod Wood is speaking to the media in the afternoon. I really don't care do you?



Brad Holmes spoke with reporters today (28:44)

@msudaisy26 @Payne

hey if Brad were a fan he'd want a big splashy signing too

I am not vested enough in the Lions to listen to a 30 minute press conference.

Brad has done a great job drafting and put this team in a position to win, it is time to get over the top while the window is open because the windows close fast.

Lots of other teams have shown the Lions the recipe to get the job done. Draft well, get a good coach, get a good qb, make a big trade or signing (usually more than one), go to the Super Bowl. They are choosing a different recipe. Will it work? I don't think so, but we will find out.
 

Donovan Jackson, G, Ohio State​

Thoughts: Brooks is thinking like Crabbs, conveniently plugging one of Detroit's more obvious long-term concerns in this mock. With Booker off the board in the projection, Brooks shifts to Jackson as the Lions' choice.

Like Booker, Jackson's primary experience has come at left guard. That adds to the convenience and fit of the selection. While he hasn't tested during the pre-draft process, he's a more athletic mover in space than his Alabama counterpart on film. Jackson also has an adequately nasty demeanor that comes with consistently churning legs and a finisher's mentality in the run game.

Playing guard all of 2023 and the first five games of 2024, Jackson was solid in pass protection, surrendering a single sack. He was a little shakier when pressed into moving to left tackle to address an injury situation. Still, the fact that he was even asked to take on that challenge and capably performed for the National Champions says plenty about his ability.

Grade: B+
As much as I am on Team D this draft I wouldn't be complaining too much with a quality OL as a high pick. Everything runs through these guys. The running game, protecting the QB, keeping the defense off the field. Setting the tone.

This is why I wanted one big splash or two small ones on the defensive line in free agency/trade. Thos draft is great for either line and the Lion's line is great for now.

Both Decker and Glasgow will be 33 before the season starts and Ragnow is young age wise, but injuries make it much mote likely he will retire earlier rather than later.
Join me in giving up this battle. It's been refreshing.

I am not as vested as you. It isn't going to bother me if others disagree or if I am wrong. We are just talking here and no one gets them all correct.
Hearing the opinion of others does not bother me one bit. I 100% agree with you......we are just talking here. It is a forum designed for that sole purpose.
Unfortunately, some believe their opinions are facts and I'm just tired of debating it.

Take care
 
Roseman, Brett Veech, Lee Snead

Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does; Veach has Mahomes, one the best QBs in the game who works with him on the cap and takes less than he could demand; and Les Snead was way out over his skis when they won that title. He had no picks to speak of and it did take them a year to regroup at one point, although he has indeed done a remarkable job. But trading and burning all those picks? He was luck luck lucky they won that year.

And combined, they prove something. From Roseman and analytics (not paying non-premium positions until they're All-Pro); to Veach and his traditional GM'ing and concentrating on their defense while leaving the offense to Mahomes and Kelce pretty much alone; and Snead's "eff those picks," they've all done it in radically different ways. There is no commonality in their blueprints for their builds.

You should be thrilled with your owner, front office, and GM. It's a model. The Jets tried to poach as many as possible because it's been so successful. That you're Super Bowl-or-busting is just not seeing the forest for the trees.
 
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Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does
Roseman's big splash was trading a 1st for AJ Brown and signing him for $100 million over 4 years. It took them 3 years to win the Super Bowl. He also signed Barkley but it was only $36 million over 3 years. That's not a big splash with respect to dollars. The Eagles also didn't just sign a bunch of young core players to massive contracts and didn't have a bunch more coming down the pike in the next 2 years. The bolded is the difference. Roseman has largely built his team through the draft.

Roseman is the best GM right now and Holmes is right behind him.
 
Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does
Roseman's big splash was trading a 1st for AJ Brown and signing him for $100 million over 4 years. It took them 3 years to win the Super Bowl. He also signed Barkley but it was only $36 million over 3 years. That's not a big splash with respect to dollars. The Eagles also didn't just sign a bunch of young core players to massive contracts and didn't have a bunch more coming down the pike in the next 2 years. The bolded is the difference. Roseman has largely built his team through the draft.

Roseman is the best GM right now and Holmes is right behind him.

You can't say paying a rb 12 million isn't a big splash. That is a lot of money for a rb. Especially when you said one year 12 million was too much risk for a edge rusher.
 
Roseman, Brett Veech, Lee Snead

Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does; Veach has Mahomes, one the best QBs in the game who works with him on the cap and takes less than he could demand; and Les Snead was way out over his skis when they won that title. He had no picks to speak of and it did take them a year to regroup at one point, although he has indeed done a remarkable job. But trading and burning all those picks? He was luck luck lucky they won that year.

And combined, they prove something. From Roseman and analytics (not paying non-premium positions until they're All-Pro); to Veach and his traditional GM'ing and concentrating on their defense while leaving the offense to Mahomes and Kelce pretty much alone; and Snead's "eff those picks," they've all done it in radically different ways. There is no commonality in their blueprints for their builds.

You should be thrilled with your owner, front office, and GM. It's a model. The Jets tried to poach as many as possible it's been so successful. That you're Super Bowl-or-busting is just not seeing the forest for the trees.

There is never going to be a perfect comparison, but all those teams made big moves to get over the hump and when/if it didn't work, they tried again.

When Mahomes got killed by the Bucs in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs went big and signed a top free agent lineman and traded for one, when Rams went to a super bowl and lost they traded Goff and went for it again, went the Eagles lost the super bowl after getting Brown, they doubled down and got Barkely.

Just drafting and resigning your players and looking for bargain bin guys is the way to become Cowboys or the Bengals.
 
Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does
Roseman's big splash was trading a 1st for AJ Brown and signing him for $100 million over 4 years. It took them 3 years to win the Super Bowl. He also signed Barkley but it was only $36 million over 3 years. That's not a big splash with respect to dollars. The Eagles also didn't just sign a bunch of young core players to massive contracts and didn't have a bunch more coming down the pike in the next 2 years. The bolded is the difference. Roseman has largely built his team through the draft.

Roseman is the best GM right now and Holmes is right behind him.

You can't say paying a rb 12 million isn't a big splash. That is a lot of money for a rb. Especially when you said one year 12 million was too much risk for a edge rusher.
Joey Bosa has missed half the games in the last 3 years and last year he played in 14 games and only had 5 sacks and 22 tackles. It's not the $12 million, it's guaranteeing it in full to an oft-injured player who hasn't had a full productive season since 2021. He simply was not any good last year.
 
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Just drafting and resigning your players and looking for bargain bin guys is the way to become Cowboys or the Bengals.
Those teams don't have a young core with a bunch of pro bowl caliber players all in their mid-20s. They also have badly mismanaged their salary caps. That's a bad comparison
 
Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does
Roseman's big splash was trading a 1st for AJ Brown and signing him for $100 million over 4 years. It took them 3 years to win the Super Bowl. He also signed Barkley but it was only $36 million over 3 years. That's not a big splash with respect to dollars. The Eagles also didn't just sign a bunch of young core players to massive contracts and didn't have a bunch more coming down the pike in the next 2 years. The bolded is the difference. Roseman has largely built his team through the draft.

Roseman is the best GM right now and Holmes is right behind him.

You can't say paying a rb 12 million isn't a big splash. That is a lot of money for a rb. Especially when you said one year 12 million was too much risk for a edge rusher.
Joey Bosa has missed half the games in the last 3 years and last year he played in 14 games and only had 5 sacks and 22 tackles. It's not the $12 million, it's guaranteeing it in full to an oft-injured player who has had a full productive season since 2021. He simply was not any good last year.

Barkely was always hurt too. Had under 1k rushing yards, under 4 yards a carry. No one was saying Bosa wasn't a risk, while paying him half of good defensive end contract. They paid Barkely top of the line rb money.
 
Just drafting and resigning your players and looking for bargain bin guys is the way to become Cowboys or the Bengals.
Those teams don't have a young core with a bunch of pro bowl caliber players all in their mid-20s. They also have badly mismanaged their salary caps. That's a bad comparison

The Cowboys absolutely had a bunch of young pro bowl guys like 4ish years ago. Their whole offensive line was awesome, prime Zeke, Lamb, young Dak, etc.
 
Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does
Roseman's big splash was trading a 1st for AJ Brown and signing him for $100 million over 4 years. It took them 3 years to win the Super Bowl. He also signed Barkley but it was only $36 million over 3 years. That's not a big splash with respect to dollars. The Eagles also didn't just sign a bunch of young core players to massive contracts and didn't have a bunch more coming down the pike in the next 2 years. The bolded is the difference. Roseman has largely built his team through the draft.

Roseman is the best GM right now and Holmes is right behind him.

You can't say paying a rb 12 million isn't a big splash. That is a lot of money for a rb. Especially when you said one year 12 million was too much risk for a edge rusher.
Joey Bosa has missed half the games in the last 3 years and last year he played in 14 games and only had 5 sacks and 22 tackles. It's not the $12 million, it's guaranteeing it in full to an oft-injured player who has had a full productive season since 2021. He simply was not any good last year.

Barkely was always hurt too. Had under 1k rushing yards, under 4 yards a carry. No one was saying Bosa wasn't a risk, while paying him half of good defensive end contract. They paid Barkely top of the line rb money.
Barkley had no QB, a bad offensive line and hardly any weapons. But everyone knew he was great regardless of the numbers (the film verified it) and he was 27 when the Eagles signed him. I thought it was a great move by the Eagles and if the Lions had no RB right now I would 100% spend $12 million on Barkley right now without hesitation.

Like I said, it's not the dollar amount it's the player.
 
Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does
Roseman's big splash was trading a 1st for AJ Brown and signing him for $100 million over 4 years. It took them 3 years to win the Super Bowl. He also signed Barkley but it was only $36 million over 3 years. That's not a big splash with respect to dollars. The Eagles also didn't just sign a bunch of young core players to massive contracts and didn't have a bunch more coming down the pike in the next 2 years. The bolded is the difference. Roseman has largely built his team through the draft.

Roseman is the best GM right now and Holmes is right behind him.

You can't say paying a rb 12 million isn't a big splash. That is a lot of money for a rb. Especially when you said one year 12 million was too much risk for a edge rusher.
Joey Bosa has missed half the games in the last 3 years and last year he played in 14 games and only had 5 sacks and 22 tackles. It's not the $12 million, it's guaranteeing it in full to an oft-injured player who has had a full productive season since 2021. He simply was not any good last year.

Barkely was always hurt too. Had under 1k rushing yards, under 4 yards a carry. No one was saying Bosa wasn't a risk, while paying him half of good defensive end contract. They paid Barkely top of the line rb money.
Barkley had no QB, a bad offensive line and hardly any weapons. But everyone knew he was great regardless of the numbers (the film verified it) and he was 27 when the Eagles signed him. If the Lions had no RB I would 100% spend $12 million on Barkley right now.

Like I said, it's not the dollar amount it's the player.

You are moving the goal posts. He was a risk just like Bosa, hurt a lot, 27 is old for a rb and a lot of wear and tear on him.

I am not saying Bosa would have worked. I am saying I would risk it, because if it doesn't work I think Holmes would be more like Roseman than Jerry Jones. He could risk it, fail and build it back very quickly to take another try at it. If it works, championship.
 
Just drafting and resigning your players and looking for bargain bin guys is the way to become Cowboys or the Bengals.
Those teams don't have a young core with a bunch of pro bowl caliber players all in their mid-20s. They also have badly mismanaged their salary caps. That's a bad comparison

The Cowboys absolutely had a bunch of young pro bowl guys like 4ish years ago. Their whole offensive line was awesome, prime Zeke, Lamb, young Dak, etc.
Good example. They had the above but mismanaged the cap, had some horrible bloated contracts and their defense sucked and was soft. They didn't have the cap flexibility to do anything about it.
 
Just drafting and resigning your players and looking for bargain bin guys is the way to become Cowboys or the Bengals.
Those teams don't have a young core with a bunch of pro bowl caliber players all in their mid-20s. They also have badly mismanaged their salary caps. That's a bad comparison

The Cowboys absolutely had a bunch of young pro bowl guys like 4ish years ago. Their whole offensive line was awesome, prime Zeke, Lamb, young Dak, etc.
Good example. They had the above but mismanaged the cap, had some horrible bloated contracts and their defense sucked and was soft. They didn't have the cap flexibility to do anything about it.

Holmes is better than Jerry and could work the cap. Their defense was decent, just bad coaching. Another problem the Lions don't have.
 
SHOCKING REVEAL at the Owners meeting - Dan Campbell is fired up.

Pleased with what they did during the FA period, bringing in the right guys (Reed, Lopez, Stuard.) Happy to extend/resign their own guys - got back everybody they wanted to come back. Excited for the the draft. WRT the coaching changes, thrilled his guys landed promotions and new opportunities, that's what you want from the coaches who excelled. Replaced them with guys they're familiar with (Morton & Shep), that they've worked with before, and know what their getting. Expecting more leadership from St Brown, Sewell and everyone else in the core; this is their team, this is their locker room. As far as loosing the OC and offensive assistants, what has about the Lions changed? Same quarterback who has gotten better every year. Same top 4 WR and top 4 backs. OL is still strong, every component of the offense is back - that's the Detroit offense. The new play caller helped install the first Ben Johnson offense three years ago.

The defense will be measurably better just by having Hutch for 17 g instead of 5, and they're not done building it out yet.

Dan being Dan

Love the guy, dude is infectious.
 
You should be thrilled with your owner, front office, and GM. It's a model. The Jets tried to poach as many as possible it's been so successful. That you're Super Bowl-or-busting is just not seeing the forest for the trees.
Sometimes it's good to get an outside perspective, especially one from a fan of an AFC team that itself is taking steps to becoming a contender.

As to your forest for the trees comment, it reminds me of a true story of when I lived near a street called Forest. I was close enough to hear it's traffic but I couldn't see the cars. There were too many trees in the way.
 
Howie Roseman is the best GM in football who uses arbitrage and genius to do what he does
Roseman's big splash was trading a 1st for AJ Brown and signing him for $100 million over 4 years. It took them 3 years to win the Super Bowl. He also signed Barkley but it was only $36 million over 3 years. That's not a big splash with respect to dollars. The Eagles also didn't just sign a bunch of young core players to massive contracts and didn't have a bunch more coming down the pike in the next 2 years. The bolded is the difference. Roseman has largely built his team through the draft.

Roseman is the best GM right now and Holmes is right behind him.


Young core players recently signed:
Hurts - 2023 - $255 million
AJ - 2024 - $96 million
Dickerson - 2024 - $84 million
D Smith - 2024 - $75 million
Mailata - 2024 - $66 million
Huff - 2024 - $51 million
Saquon - 2025 - $41 million

Next couple of years:
Carter
Davis
Mitchell
Smith
DeJean
 

Lions' Campbell talks o-line, adding more depth at defensive line and WR, motivating road schedule and more


West Palm Beach, Fla. — Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell met with the media Tuesday morning at the league meetings. Here are the highlights from that 40-minute session.

O-line not settled​

An offensive line is only as strong as its weakest link. Last season, particularly down the stretch, that weak link was Graham Glasgow. There were clearly some injury factors at play, so I asked Campbell about his confidence in the veteran lineman.

"You know, every year, certainly, you play that position, and it's a year later, you know?” Campbell said. “But Graham's somebody that we still value because he's got versatility. …I think people forget that some. Man, he can do an excellent job at center, as a matter of fact. So I think there are things that he brings to us that are not always easy to find.

“So, yeah, we have confidence in him,” Campbell said. “And there again, the fact that you know he can play all the positions, man. That lets you breathe easy."

That’s an endorsement, but at no point did Campbell declare Glasgow a starter. There was a follow-up about whether the team was considering moving the veteran back to right guard, where he thrived in 2023. The coach said that’s one of a number of options being considered, including kicking Giovanni Manu inside.

“That's a thought, man,” Campbell said about moving Glasgow. “We've talked about that. Do you go back to right and is it Mahogany left? Is it somebody we drafted? You know, you're gonna do your best to let these guys compete and see where they're at. I mean, do we try Manu guard? That's a thought. So, we're gonna try to let these guys compete a little bit and move them around and see what's right, see where we're at. It's not gonna be set in stone."

With Manu, Campbell said the young tackle got very little work at guard as a rookie.

It was only scout team and it wasn't a lot of it,” Campbell said. “You're gonna kind of take a leap of faith and push those reps and see if he can grow from them, you know? Do you do that or do you keep him outside? Those are just some of the thoughts that I've had, we've had."

In good shape, but more to come

Echoing comments made by general manager Brad Holmes a day earlier, Campbell expressed contentment with the way the team's defensive line has been taking shape.

"Yeah, look, where we're at right now, we're excited," Campbell said. "We really got everybody back that we wanted to get."

That plan included re-signing Levi Onwuzurike and Marcus Davenport. Asked about concerns with the latter's durability, the coach noted it was an obvious consideration, but feels the reward outweighs the risk.

"Those are things that always weigh," Campbell said. "We think it weighs on us, it weighs on the players, too. But you want to know, I think for us, that he still wants to go. Like, 'Man, I'm willing to attack this, continue to get better,' which he has. I think as long as he's willing to make another push, believes he can get this done, and we feel like the rehab and everything has gone well, we think this will heal, everything is right about it, then, yeah, we feel good.

"If it goes the way we think it's going to go, Davenport is going to be a hell of player."

Still, even though Holmes said the room was getting full, Campbell said the team is eying the addition of more talent.

"We're not done, either," Campbell said. "We don't know when. Maybe it will be the draft. We're looking at everything. It could be after the draft. It could be any time. But, at this point with where we're at, we do, we like where we're at. Getting Levi back was big."

More joint practices on the way​

Campbell has typically shared the team’s joint practice plans at this event. However, after getting some grief for prematurely letting the cat out of the bag, he’s keeping things closer to the vest this spring.

I’m not going to say yet, because it seems like every year I’ve done that, it’s been this explosion, like, ‘Hey, I wish you would’ve told us before you did that, because we haven’t told our media,” Campbell said. “I was like, ‘All right.’ So, yeah, we’ve got something in the works. We’ll see what happens.”

Campbell said he’s hoping to have sets of joint sessions with two teams this offseason.

Bring it on​

Earning a first-place schedule after winning the division last season, the Lions are set to face a brutal gauntlet of road matchups. Beyond the annual trio of NFC North games, the slate also includes trips to Kansas City, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Los Angeles and Washington.

Campbell, unsurprisingly, is excited by the daunting challenge. He's even hoping Mother Nature steps up her game, making things even more trying.

"Yeah, it's like anything else, you're always looking for these nuggets, man, of motivation," Campbell said. "This is a challenge. We're competitive, I'm competitive, so yeah, I love the thought of it. These are going to be outdoors, (on) grass. I hope it rains, it's mud, it's everything, the whole deal.

"This is going to be a meat grinder, you know?" Campbell said. "I've said this before, we could be a better team than we were last year and have more losses. There is a chance that could happen. That's OK. As long as we learn from what those are and we get better coming out of them, we'll be good."

Campbell said the team's goals remain unchanged — win the division and earn the No. 1 seed. But regardless of how they get there, he embraces the idea that any team in the playoffs has a realistic chance to win it all.

"The bottom line is this, it doesn't matter, just get your *** in the playoffs," he said. "Just get in and it's about the matchups and making the most of that day. And along the way, we've got to get better throughout the year. We've got to be much better than we were to start the season."
 

Farewell to The Commish​

Defensive end John Cominsky, who spent three years with the Lions but missed last season with a knee injury, announced his retirement via social media on Monday, citing an accumulation of injuries.

Cominsky, 29, was a fourth-round pick out of Charleston in 2019. He played three years for Atlanta before he was waived and claimed by the Lions ahead of the 2022 season.

"You know, that was a heck of a find by Brad, being able to get Commish," Campbell said. "…He was kind of the model of what we were early in this thing. The value that he brought to us, the type of teammate he was, the type of player that he was. That'll be missed, man.

"Unfortunately, it's part of this game," Campbell said. "You get these injuries and some of them, it's just hard to recover from. So, I wish him the best of luck, certainly, and love him to death, man. He was the best. But that's part of the tough side of this game, is the injuries."

For his career, Cominsky appeared in 57 games, including 20 starts. He recorded a career-high 4.0 sacks in 2022, earning a two-year extension from the Lions.

Looking for fresh talent​

It's sounding more and more like the Lions will be adding receiving depth via the draft. Campbell was asked about his comfort level with the team's current corps and emphasized a desire to inject youth into the room.

"Love that group, but we were fortunate that we got out last year, during the season, for the most part, unscathed, as far as injuries and things of that nature," Campbell said. "That group, TP (Tim Patric), Leaf (Kalif Raymond), obviously Saint (Amon-Ra St. Brown) and Jamo (Jameson Williams), those guys that we've got have been big for us. We would love to bring in more competition, particularly some youth. That would help, and let them all mix it up. Get in there and see where it all falls."

As it stands, the team's offseason roster is light at the position. The Lions will likely add at least three receivers between now and the start of the offseason program. An early-round draft pick could help stabilize the long-term outlook at the position, with Patrick and Raymond both over 30 and on expiring contracts.

Additionally, Holmes acknowledged Detroit's intention to pick up Williams' fifth-year option on Monday. Still, he pumped the brakes on a longer extension for the fourth-year pass-catcher.

Staying the course with the right pieces​

There was a lot of talk about continuity and player ownership during the session. I asked Campbell if there are inherent challenges with motivating the roster's core when it's been together as long as it has.

"I think that's why you've got to get the right guys, man," Campbell said. "Look, I've said this from the get-go: My job is to — I'm going to be the leader of this team until they're ready to take it over themselves, and they're ready to take this over. Every year has gotten more and more where our leaders — St. Brown, (Penei) Sewell, (Jared) Goff, (Aidan Hutchinson) Hutch, Alex (Anzalone) — have begun to take this thing over. So now you don't have to worry about my voice, you know what I mean? It's their voice. They're the ones who set the tone for the team. So, no. I think we're in a good spot. We've got guys that are hungry."

It's that investment in players taking ownership that also gives Campbell faith in being able to overcome the losses of the team's offensive and defensive coordinators this offseason.

"The nuts and bolts of what we are — of course, we've got our coaches — man, this offense is Jared Goff, St. Brown, (Jahmyr) Gibbs, (David) Montgomery, it's Frank (Ragnow), it's Sewell, it's (Taylor) Decker. I can keep (going). It's Jamo. The defense is Hutch, it's Alim (McNeill), it's freaking Alex, it's TA (Terrion Arnold), it's Kerby (Joseh), it's (Brian) Branch. It's now (D.J.) Reed. I can keep going. It's (Derrick) Barnes. That's what we are. We can say, 'Well this is our scheme, this is what we're running.' No, no, no. They're the ones who make it what it is. That's our playbook, those guys."

On that front, Campbell was asked where he saw growth from Goff last season. The coach provided an example of that ownership taking hold.

"Everything we wanted him to do in the offense, he did," Campbell said. "And then he began to bring stuff to us, as 'Hey, man,' I can see this look. Let me get to this play. I know I've got these options in the bag. But let me get to this, as well.’ Those are the things where it's like, 'OK, here we go, man.' That's beginning to show. I would anticipate to that to take another step up."

No push from Detroit to ban push​

Even though there was decent support for banning the “Tush Push” play that’s been popularized by the Philadelphia Eagles, the league tabled the conversation until later this summer.

Restating a position he’s shared in the past, Campbell isn’t among the coaches who want the play banned.

“I am of the school that, hey, they found something and it's up to everybody else to stop it,” he said.
 
My question would be whether you think the lions roster last year was good enough to win the Super Bowl if they had stayed reasonably healthy? My answer would be yes, so retaining the essentially the same roster and hoping for better health makes a lot more sense than making a ‘win-now’ move.

I also think that if they had traded for maxx Crosby at the trade deadline, the injuries still wouldn’t have allowed them to win the Super Bowl last year. And we’d almost have to win this year because of all the young talent that we would be losing moving forward would close the Super Bowl window pretty quickly.
 
An offensive line is only as strong as its weakest link. Last season, particularly down the stretch, that weak link was Graham Glasgow. There were clearly some injury factors at play, so I asked Campbell about his confidence in the veteran lineman.

"You know, every year, certainly, you play that position, and it's a year later, you know?” Campbell said. “But Graham's somebody that we still value because he's got versatility. …I think people forget that some. Man, he can do an excellent job at center, as a matter of fact. So I think there are things that he brings to us that are not always easy to find.

“So, yeah, we have confidence in him,” Campbell said. “And there again, the fact that you know he can play all the positions, man. That lets you breathe easy."
It sounds like he'd love to see someone come in and play so well that he could use GG as the main backup for the inside 3. Or push GG to bounce back and keep the job for himself. Either way it needs to happen to keep things intact for the offense.
 
I also think that if they had traded for maxx Crosby at the trade deadline, the injuries still wouldn’t have allowed them to win the Super Bowl last year. And we’d almost have to win this year because of all the young talent that we would be losing moving forward would close the Super Bowl window pretty quickly.
Not only that but you'd lose at least 2 high draft picks.
 
My question would be whether you think the lions roster last year was good enough to win the Super Bowl if they had stayed reasonably healthy? My answer would be yes, so retaining the essentially the same roster and hoping for better health makes a lot more sense than making a ‘win-now’ move.

I also think that if they had traded for maxx Crosby at the trade deadline, the injuries still wouldn’t have allowed them to win the Super Bowl last year. And we’d almost have to win this year because of all the young talent that we would be losing moving forward would close the Super Bowl window pretty quickly.

That is using hindsight. At the time Crosby was a replacement for Hutchinson. The trade deadline was long over before everyone else got hurt.
 
My question would be whether you think the lions roster last year was good enough to win the Super Bowl if they had stayed reasonably healthy? My answer would be yes, so retaining the essentially the same roster and hoping for better health makes a lot more sense than making a ‘win-now’ move.

I also think that if they had traded for maxx Crosby at the trade deadline, the injuries still wouldn’t have allowed them to win the Super Bowl last year. And we’d almost have to win this year because of all the young talent that we would be losing moving forward would close the Super Bowl window pretty quickly.

Brad Holmes touched on this yesterday. He doesn’t expect or even think it’s reasonable for fans to agree with his approach; he admitted if he were a fan he’d be jumping & down calling for that big splashy move that puts them over the top. He has said many times that philosophically he never thinks “we’re one player away from winning a Super Bowl.”

There’s a good chance that one big trade or free agency signing doesn’t get you the ring. Then 1-2 years down the rode you’re looking at not having the resources to replenish through the draft or are over the cap and can’t keep the guys you found in years 1-4.

They have a very specific type. They will not draft, trade for, or sign a guy who isn’t all in for the team. Guys with questionable work ethic, selfishness, red flags, difficult uncoachable personalities…that’s not going to be part of their locker room.

They have a culture that embraces folks being who they are. It’s not like they have a restrictive environment where people feel like they have to be a certain way. It’s a very open and transparent organization at Allen Park. If the player is doing something the wrong way that gets addressed. Things don’t get swept under the rug, there’s no “OK we’ll have to work around that.” They’re not out to shame or embarrass anyone. But if someone is being selfish and not doing their job they’re going to call them in and say “Hey when you do this, it hurts the team. We need you to mindful of that. Let’s get that corrected and move forward.”

The focus this year was let’s not waste the opportunity here. We had a top 5 defense until the last few weeks when the cumulative effect of 21 defensive players on IR finally overwhelmed them. This year they’ve got $40M in cap space but they could easily be $40M over next year. They have signed a lot of core guys but you still have Hutch & Kirby next, then Branch/LaPorta next, and Jah/Jack after that. Jamo still has this year & the option, TBD after that. We can sustain long term success by managing it properly.

They’ve spent all this time assembling a great young team. Why mortgage the future to all in for 2025? We had a team that could have won it all last year with a little better luck with injuries on defense. They think they’re have a good enough team rn (& we will add to that later this month.)

Why trade away a couple 1sts when you have a massive competitive advantage in the draft? Why pay top dollar for an elite Edge when you have one of the best in the building (and by handing out a market setting deal to a guy about to turn 30 you’re inhibiting your ability to retain your own under-25 stars)?

You can’t answer “because then you’ll win a Super Bowl” - you don’t know that. It’s an opinion, you’re welcome to it, but it’s a counter to their clearly explained and laid out plan for how to build a team that remains at a high level for the long term.

Maybe one of the fundamental differences here between the two camps is one group of fans think the window will close fast and another group of fans think they’re going to be in this SB window for awhile,
 
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My question would be whether you think the lions roster last year was good enough to win the Super Bowl if they had stayed reasonably healthy? My answer would be yes, so retaining the essentially the same roster and hoping for better health makes a lot more sense than making a ‘win-now’ move.

I also think that if they had traded for maxx Crosby at the trade deadline, the injuries still wouldn’t have allowed them to win the Super Bowl last year. And we’d almost have to win this year because of all the young talent that we would be losing moving forward would close the Super Bowl window pretty quickly.

My question would be whether you think the lions roster last year was good enough to win the Super Bowl if they had stayed reasonably healthy? My answer would be yes, so retaining the essentially the same roster and hoping for better health makes a lot more sense than making a ‘win-now’ move.

I also think that if they had traded for maxx Crosby at the trade deadline, the injuries still wouldn’t have allowed them to win the Super Bowl last year. And we’d almost have to win this year because of all the young talent that we would be losing moving forward would close the Super Bowl window pretty quickly.

Brad Holmes touched on this yesterday. He doesn’t expect or even think it’s reasonable for fans to agree with his approach; he admitted if he were a fan he’d be jumping & down calling for that big splashy move that puts them over the top. He has said many times that philosophically he never thinks “we’re one player away from winning a Super Bowl.”

There’s a good chance that one big trade or free agency signing doesn’t get you the ring. Then 1-2 years down the rode you’re looking at not having the resources to replenish through the draft or are over the cap and can’t keep the guys you found in years 1-4.

They have a very specific type. They will not draft, trade for, or sign a guy who isn’t all in for the team. Guys with questionable work ethic, selfishness, red flags, difficult uncoachable personalities…that’s not going to be part of their locker room.

They have a culture that embraces folks being who they are. It’s not like they have a restrictive environment where people feel like they have to be a certain way. It’s a very open and transparent organization at Allen Park. If the player is doing something the wrong way that gets addressed. Things don’t get swept under the rug, there’s no “OK we’ll have to work around that.” They’re not out to shame or embarrass anyone. But if someone is being selfish and not doing their job they’re going to call them in and say “Hey when you do this, it hurts the team. We need you to mindful of that. Let’s get that corrected and move forward.”

The focus this year was let’s not waste the opportunity here. We had a top 5 defense until the last few weeks when the cumulative effect of 21 defensive players on IR finally overwhelmed them. This year they’ve got $40M in cap space but they could easily be $40M over next year. They have signed a lot of core guys but you still have Hutch & Kirby next, and Branch/LaPorta next, and Jah/Jack after that. We can sustain long term success by managing that properly.

They’ve spent all this time assembling a great young team. Why mortgage the future to final in for 2025? We had a team that could have won it all last year with a little better luck with injuries on defense.

Why trade away a couple 1sts when you have a massive competitive advantage in the draft? Why pay top dollar for an elite Edge when you have one of the best in the building (and by handing out a market setting deal to a guy about to turn 30 you’re inhibiting your ability to retain your own under-25 stars)?

You can’t answer “because then you’ll win a Super Bowl” - you don’t know that. It’s an opinion, you’re welcome to it, but it’s a counter to their clearly explained and laid out plan for how to build a team that remains at a high level for the long term.

Maybe one of the fundamental differences here between the two camps is one group of fans think the window will close fast and another group of fans think they’re going to be in this SB window for awhile,
Great post! I was lucky to be home for a few days and caught Dan Millers conversations with both Coach and Brad at the owners meeting and this is exactly how I felt listening to them. My pedestrian cliff notes were “sure, we could have mortgaged the future, but we have a much deeper plan for the future; just watch”.
 

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