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2025 Miami Dolphins - Draft 2025 (3 Viewers)

The Miami Dolphins were not 0-7 in 2021
They were close but they were not 0-7 FYI
Maybe in 2019 before we drafted Tua
Just fact checking so we aren't speaking different languages

Bottom Line: Some fans want to MARVEL at Coach MM and his offense and disparage Coach Flores since he knew nothing about offense...Hmmmmmmm
If that is the case and we have post after post of unbridled enthusiasm over the offense, yet no remorse about how awful Coach MM is on Defense.

Flores might suck at Offense
MM might be equally terrible when it comes to Defense
Yes/No? Have the cake and eat it too, Must have it both ways?
You decide where you fall in this spectrum but the posts leading up to this point including today, they speak for themselves.
Right now offense is king in the NFL, rules are just set up that way. The numbers will bear out you really need a top 10 unit on both sides to win a Super Bowl but rightly or wrongly I think most people see it as easier for a good defensive coordinator to be able to carry the defense while the offense needs a more offensive minded head coach to be a top unit. I tend to agree that at least in philosophy I'd rather have an offensive minded head coach because it will get more out of the QB that is the key position and find a strong DC to run the defense. I think with a defensive head coach you alienate the most important player on the team.
Thanks for clarification
Appreciate you
 
Tua 3rd concussion protocol this year?
He needs to be put on injured reserve immediately
No ifs, ands or buts about it
For his own long term health and any chance to salvage him getting on the field next year
I'm ready for the Skylar Thompson ride the last 2 weeks of the season, nothing to lose, going nowhere as the No 7 Seed anyways
It won't happen, but I agree that we need to see if Skylar is at least a cheap adequate backup by playing him in the regular season. A great preseason and a couple of nice drives in the Vikings game under pressure, plus a struggle vs the Jets is all we know.

Teddy will not be with the team next year unless Tua retires and Teddy impresses in the next 2 games and takes a team-friendly contract. Every time I see Herbert play, I'm wondering what the Dolphin scouts didn't like about him. We sure could use that 1st round pick that Ross lost.
Blew my mind when we passed on him. But I tried to get behind Tua.....and this season he has shown a lot more than the first two years....but his limitations were clearly on display in this 4 game stench.....I mean stretch. Buffalo he played well. But man......we are simply not leapfrogging The Bills (Allen) Chiefs (Mahomes) Bengals (Burrow) and yes the Chargers (Herbert) with Tua at the helm. Not going to happen folks. These 4 guys are on another planet compared to him. In so many ways.

Man, Herbert with Tyreek/Waddle would be something to see.
 
Tua 3rd concussion protocol this year?
He needs to be put on injured reserve immediately
No ifs, ands or buts about it
For his own long term health and any chance to salvage him getting on the field next year
I'm ready for the Skylar Thompson ride the last 2 weeks of the season, nothing to lose, going nowhere as the No 7 Seed anyways
It won't happen, but I agree that we need to see if Skylar is at least a cheap adequate backup by playing him in the regular season. A great preseason and a couple of nice drives in the Vikings game under pressure, plus a struggle vs the Jets is all we know.

Teddy will not be with the team next year unless Tua retires and Teddy impresses in the next 2 games and takes a team-friendly contract. Every time I see Herbert play, I'm wondering what the Dolphin scouts didn't like about him. We sure could use that 1st round pick that Ross lost.
Blew my mind when we passed on him. But I tried to get behind Tua.....and this season he has shown a lot more than the first two years....but his limitations were clearly on display in this 4 game stench.....I mean stretch. Buffalo he played well. But man......we are simply not leapfrogging The Bills (Allen) Chiefs (Mahomes) Bengals (Burrow) and yes the Chargers (Herbert) with Tua at the helm. Not going to happen folks. These 4 guys are on another planet compared to him. In so many ways.

Man, Herbert with Tyreek/Waddle would be something to see.
Likely never happens. If Herbert is good for an extra two wins last year and one or two the year before Flores is still here and they don't bring Tyreek in because he wouldn't fit the scheme.
 
Tua 3rd concussion protocol this year?
He needs to be put on injured reserve immediately
No ifs, ands or buts about it
For his own long term health and any chance to salvage him getting on the field next year
I'm ready for the Skylar Thompson ride the last 2 weeks of the season, nothing to lose, going nowhere as the No 7 Seed anyways
It won't happen, but I agree that we need to see if Skylar is at least a cheap adequate backup by playing him in the regular season. A great preseason and a couple of nice drives in the Vikings game under pressure, plus a struggle vs the Jets is all we know.

Teddy will not be with the team next year unless Tua retires and Teddy impresses in the next 2 games and takes a team-friendly contract. Every time I see Herbert play, I'm wondering what the Dolphin scouts didn't like about him. We sure could use that 1st round pick that Ross lost.
Blew my mind when we passed on him. But I tried to get behind Tua.....and this season he has shown a lot more than the first two years....but his limitations were clearly on display in this 4 game stench.....I mean stretch. Buffalo he played well. But man......we are simply not leapfrogging The Bills (Allen) Chiefs (Mahomes) Bengals (Burrow) and yes the Chargers (Herbert) with Tua at the helm. Not going to happen folks. These 4 guys are on another planet compared to him. In so many ways.

Man, Herbert with Tyreek/Waddle would be something to see.
Likely never happens. If Herbert is good for an extra two wins last year and one or two the year before Flores is still here and they don't bring Tyreek in because he wouldn't fit the scheme.
But we drafted Waddle who is highly similar before MM got here.

I don’t think any of us could make any assumptions on what would have happened if we had taken Herbert in 2020 and what the make up of this roster would look like. Hell we could of stood pat and taken Jamar Chase over Waddle with that thinking.
 
The Miami Dolphins were not 0-7 in 2021
They were close but they were not 0-7 FYI
Maybe in 2019 before we drafted Tua
Just fact checking so we aren't speaking different languages

Bottom Line: Some fans want to MARVEL at Coach MM and his offense and disparage Coach Flores since he knew nothing about offense...Hmmmmmmm
If that is the case and we have post after post of unbridled enthusiasm over the offense, yet no remorse about how awful Coach MM is on Defense.

Flores might suck at Offense
MM might be equally terrible when it comes to Defense
Yes/No? Have the cake and eat it too, Must have it both ways?
You decide where you fall in this spectrum but the posts leading up to this point including today, they speak for themselves.
Right now offense is king in the NFL, rules are just set up that way. The numbers will bear out you really need a top 10 unit on both sides to win a Super Bowl but rightly or wrongly I think most people see it as easier for a good defensive coordinator to be able to carry the defense while the offense needs a more offensive minded head coach to be a top unit. I tend to agree that at least in philosophy I'd rather have an offensive minded head coach because it will get more out of the QB that is the key position and find a strong DC to run the defense. I think with a defensive head coach you alienate the most important player on the team.
I don't think the risk is that you alienate the QB... the risk is that if you have a defensive HC and a strong offense, that your offensive coordinator will get poached by another team. It seems that scheme continuity is more important to offenses then defenses.
 
If Miami drafted Herbert, my guess is they would have completely different WRs
I wonder what the Bolts would look like if they had a recent 1st rd pick at WR for Herbert to work with
 
Teddy Bridgewater will Start Sunday at New England

Season Over!

Ok, so you are off the bandwagon? Here is hoping McDaniel is smart enough not to call a naked rollout of the first play for Teddy B this week.
What bandwagon? They're 8-7?
They are a .500 team like always
I've been pretty quiet while they were losing in California and Buffalo
4 losses in a row is not off the bandwagon...
The bandwagon itself has broken down
 
Sauce taking out Bridgewater on his 1st pass attempt

That was a joke of an over reaction to the Tua incident that he was taken out IMO.
Thank you for bringing this up because I hope this post will unite many if not ALL of us

Who the Bleep is Steve Young to sit there and announce what is best for Tua? Steve Young would have never had an NFL career if they were doing concussion protocols when he was playing for the Niners. Does Young have regret he ever stepped on an NFL gridiron? If so then he has no business being on Television as a talking head media member.

My reasons for wanting Tua to retire is simply so Miami does not get into contract extensions as early as March/April
Ross is aching to back his truck up to unload millions of dollars so he can say he has a franchise QB.
Ross already said he doesn't measure wins and losses, he said that when he fired Flores with a winning record in '20 and '21
Ross will measure success by what he is paying his starting QB.
If Tua never stepped on the field again until '23
He will be a $200M+ man before next summer
Mark this post like you do most of the others I seem to be proven right on year after year
You can be excited about the wins early in the season and the 5 game streak over terrible teams capping at 8-3
3-pt wins over the likes of Chicago and Detroit, Wins over No Watson-Cleve and the Houston Texans had us chest thumping...

I'm sorry I cannot be as optimistic as some of you all
 
Yeah Steve Young being so righteous is such horse****

He knew he was playing in a fog half the time and said nothing. And BTW playing at an elite level for many years.

The Tuanon will continue to push any narrative they want.

My eyes don’t lie. He ain’t the guy that would ever lead us to a Super Bowl. Hell he was unable to lead us to a post season birth.

Herbert on the other hand with a decimated OL, no deep threat what so ever to speak of and a 30th ranked defense led his team into the postseason and dare I say they win out and are the 5th seed? Yep. And oh yeah….had busted ribs for 11 weeks. Tua had busted ribs last season and was on the shelf for what 6 weeks almost?

We blew the 2020 draft…..badly.
 
We blew the 2020 draft…..badly.

I can't even believe this is disputed. Even this year, mid-season some people were mentioning that maybe Tua really was better than Herbert. I don't understand how anyone could have thought that even for a second. It's not even close.
 
Yeah Steve Young being so righteous is such horse****

He knew he was playing in a fog half the time and said nothing. And BTW playing at an elite level for many years.

The Tuanon will continue to push any narrative they want.

My eyes don’t lie. He ain’t the guy that would ever lead us to a Super Bowl. Hell he was unable to lead us to a post season birth.

Herbert on the other hand with a decimated OL, no deep threat what so ever to speak of and a 30th ranked defense led his team into the postseason and dare I say they win out and are the 5th seed? Yep. And oh yeah….had busted ribs for 11 weeks. Tua had busted ribs last season and was on the shelf for what 6 weeks almost?

We blew the 2020 draft…..badly.
I'm pretty close to agreeing on Tua, for me i wanted to see what he could do this year out from under Flores who I will continue to say was garbage even if MOP doesn't agree (lol)...that said I'm not sold on Herbert as being all that yet either. He might be a guy that puts up what seems to be great numbers but doesn't take his team to the promised land. Now if you want to say we screwed up by not losing out and getting Burrow I'll agree, that guy is a STUD and has some Marino like qualities.
 
Yeah Steve Young being so righteous is such horse****

He knew he was playing in a fog half the time and said nothing. And BTW playing at an elite level for many years.

The Tuanon will continue to push any narrative they want.

My eyes don’t lie. He ain’t the guy that would ever lead us to a Super Bowl. Hell he was unable to lead us to a post season birth.

Herbert on the other hand with a decimated OL, no deep threat what so ever to speak of and a 30th ranked defense led his team into the postseason and dare I say they win out and are the 5th seed? Yep. And oh yeah….had busted ribs for 11 weeks. Tua had busted ribs last season and was on the shelf for what 6 weeks almost?

We blew the 2020 draft…..badly.
I'm pretty close to agreeing on Tua, for me i wanted to see what he could do this year out from under Flores who I will continue to say was garbage even if MOP doesn't agree (lol)...that said I'm not sold on Herbert as being all that yet either. He might be a guy that puts up what seems to be great numbers but doesn't take his team to the promised land. Now if you want to say we screwed up by not losing out and getting Burrow I'll agree, that guy is a STUD and has some Marino like qualities.
You really need to research not only how many 4th quarter come from behind wins Herbert has engineered for the Bolts but how many times he has given them a lead with 3 minutes or less only to see his terrible defense give it up.

He has shown plenty….plenty of skills, IQ, Moxy and toughness that I can see he is an elite talent that just needs some more firepower around him (a legit deep threat whom he lost this year to injury in Guyton) and a defense that can actually hold a lead.

I take him all day over Tua and it’s simply not really debatable.

Flores sucked…..his culture was toxic. Tua has definitely improved this season. I was very happy to see it.

But then the last 4 weeks happened. Save for Buffalo….he proved what I thought he was.

Highly limited.
 
What are Miami's chances with Teddy B. leading the way?
What are the odds Miami marches into New England late December and wins?
Miami is 0-4 in December this year, are they going to try and go 0-5?
Winning cures a lot of problems
 
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What are Miami's chances with Teddy B. leading the way?
What are the odds Miami marches into New England late December and wins?
Miami is 0-4 in December this year, are they going to try and go 0-5?
Winning cures a lot of problems
The fact their backs are up against the wall leads me to believe they have a shot. But in the end I think New England pounds the football often and unless we are able to also run the football as effectively and commit to the run (which MM refuses to do as Buffalo was a perfect example of that) we probably fail Sunday.

It’s so frustrating we lost our first rounder now knowing we are going to finish the season in the middle of the road.

And where is Chubb? What has he really done. We are on the books for a huge contract…..and I have not seen any return on that investment at all other than some QB pressures.
 
As a NE fan, I'll say that both of these teams are deeply flawed and in some ways similar. If they sneak in to the playoffs there's a very minimal chance of advancing. I think Miami has a huge offensive playcalling advantage. NE's D can be excellent but has broken down under the stress of really good offenses over the past. I don't know Teddy well enough to say whether or not he can execute McDaniel's system effectively but when they're clicking they're hard to stop. I'm not a Tua fan (seems like a good kid but I don't think he's all that talented) so I personally believe that his skill level is not that hard to replace. my $0.02.

Also for what it's worth, I'm so irritated about the whole Mac Jones, professional nut kicker/ dirty player/ whiny ***** and BB's lack of offensive coaching game plan/ Patricia BS that I'm not rooting for them to win with my usual zest. They're undisciplined as a team who's main flaw seems to be hubris at the moment. Not a good look and entirely preventable.
 
What are Miami's chances with Teddy B. leading the way?
What are the odds Miami marches into New England late December and wins?
Miami is 0-4 in December this year, are they going to try and go 0-5?
Winning cures a lot of problems
exactly: IF teddy B manages the phins to 2 wins the next 2 weeks and lets say an upset of a team in the first round, then where will the bandwagon be? If he wins this weekend and the jets lose to Seattle givng us the 7 seed and we have a "moral vicotry" in the wild card round (with Tua or whomever) then where will we be?

The thing that stings for us is we should have beaten the Chargers and Packers. San Fran and the Bills maybe not so much. If Tyreek goes to KC wild card weekend and knocks mahomes out of the playoffs the narrative changes (Lebatard is the best at these things btw).

Regardless of the next few weeks, this is my take:
1) Offense is championship caliber, but it needs a more durable QB, a little more depth on the o line, and to settle the RB rotation for 2023. I'm cool with Tua one more year, Brady gracing us with his presence, or any other guy who can take hits and get back up (or run a little) (Tannyhill?)
2) The defense if it gets healthy next year, this team will be a monster. Now, it may need a coordinator change, and it certainly needs some coverage LBs, but the D line is solid (and other than wilkins' extension basically locked in for a few years). The secondary will be better simply bc all the injured guys will be back, but I wouldn't be upset if we got a few more corners in the draft or cheap ones in FA.
3) Special teams: ugh, WTF happened here. Sanders is the king of missing the clutch kick (he makes that 48 yarder we likely are singing a different tune this week). Our coverage units also look worse. Not sure if that is an extension of the injuries to the secondary (or letting Mack Hollins leave in FA) but we haev all that speed on offense and have nothing to show for it on speacial teams.

Finally: This year the phins were not on prime time until the end, and flexed in at that: How many prime time games you think we get in 2023? I'd say quite a bit more. An exciting 10 win team beats the crap out of a boring 10 win team as a fan.
 
That Bradley Chubb trade looks awful at this point.
I haven't heard his number called once for an outstanding play since they acquired him
2020
1st-Bust 1.05
1st-Bust 1.16
1st-Bust 1.30

2022-Owner and GM screw off a 1st round pick
2022-GM makes a move for Chubb parting with a 1st, Ross technically could not have weighed in...

Did anyone read that last statement?
Because it just dawned on me that Grier made that move for Chubb
ALONE!!!
Ross would breach his suspension and be due for a 2nd suspension if he had any say n the Chubb trade.
Grier was left to run the whole ship on his own and he made that move for Chubb, he wasn't under any kind of stress from Ross to pull that off
Almost felt like he was stabbing back at Ross for getting caught even though Grier HAD TO KNOW what was unfolding

Incredible turn of events the month of December
 
That Bradley Chubb trade looks awful at this point.
I haven't heard his number called once for an outstanding play since they acquired him
2020
1st-Bust 1.05
1st-Bust 1.16
1st-Bust 1.30

2022-Owner and GM screw off a 1st round pick
2022-GM makes a move for Chubb parting with a 1st, Ross technically could not have weighed in...

Did anyone read that last statement?
Because it just dawned on me that Grier made that move for Chubb
ALONE!!!
Ross would breach his suspension and be due for a 2nd suspension if he had any say n the Chubb trade.
Grier was left to run the whole ship on his own and he made that move for Chubb, he wasn't under any kind of stress from Ross to pull that off
Almost felt like he was stabbing back at Ross for getting caught even though Grier HAD TO KNOW what was unfolding

Incredible turn of events the month of December
Is that true? Along with the big extension?

Gotta get Grier out of here. Too many big gambles that have failed.
 
Grier has drafted, signed, or extended multiple injury-prone players it seems. Tua, Armstead, X, Chubb, Mostert. Only Mostert has worked out. If Herbert takes the Chargers deep into the playoffs or the SB, could it spell the end for Grier? I doubt it cause he hit on the 2021 draft with Waddle, Phillips, and Holland. And some UDFAs such as Kadou this year. But he's going to have to navigate the 2023 salary cap without a 1st round draft pick... not his fault for owner Ross' tampering which cost one of what we thought were 2 1st rounders. With Chubb ... so far not worth it, let's see what Chubb does in 2023. Wilkins needs to be extended. Sieler is good until 2023.
 
Miami lost to some very good teams during this losing streak. SF, LAC, BUF, GB. We had a chance to win each game in the 4th quarter. With the players we have, we're built to go to the playoffs, if they can stay healthy. Even NE is a good team with a very good defense. Of course, you have to beat these teams to go to the playoffs.

Looks like Teddy has a broken finger, Skylar will get 2 chances to beat the Jets this season, but with some prep this time. If he plays well, we won't need to spend big bucks that we can't even afford, on a "quality" backup QB in 2023.

 
That Bradley Chubb trade looks awful at this point.
I haven't heard his number called once for an outstanding play since they acquired him
2020
1st-Bust 1.05
1st-Bust 1.16
1st-Bust 1.30

2022-Owner and GM screw off a 1st round pick
2022-GM makes a move for Chubb parting with a 1st, Ross technically could not have weighed in...

Did anyone read that last statement?
Because it just dawned on me that Grier made that move for Chubb
ALONE!!!
Ross would breach his suspension and be due for a 2nd suspension if he had any say n the Chubb trade.
Grier was left to run the whole ship on his own and he made that move for Chubb, he wasn't under any kind of stress from Ross to pull that off
Almost felt like he was stabbing back at Ross for getting caught even though Grier HAD TO KNOW what was unfolding

Incredible turn of events the month of December
Is that true? Along with the big extension?

Gotta get Grier out of here. Too many big gambles that have failed.
Let's walk it back. The trade deadline in the NFL is quite early vs other sports.
Ross was suspended until late October and we didn't hear a lot from him in November and December. Personally I think he's being pressured to sell the team. 1st Owner to be suspended and it was like Half a season and they docked him a 1st round pick, if they can push Snyder to sell, certainly Ross is being pressured and that's why he came out and said he would sell the team to his daughter which is like being taken from the Wicked Witch of the East and being handed over to the Wicked Witch of the West, nothing changes I cannot think of a worse scenario but that is what is being discussed and moved towards behind closed doors.
 
Whenever I see a team fighting for a playoff spot with their third-string QB, I’m reminded of the famous Tom Moore quote about Peyton Manning. The vast majority of NFL teams aren’t going to win with their QB3 (Niners are the exception that proves the rule.) Once you reach that point, you’re f***ed. And you can’t practice that kind of f***ed
 
>>Offensive line spotlight: The Dolphins offensive line is a completely different animal without Terron Armstead on the left side. The starting five combined to allow an absurd 21 pressures on 45 pass-blocking snaps on the day. It’s a minor miracle that only two of them resulted in sacks.<<

We knew Armstead had a history of injuries when we signed him to the big contract. Grier has whiffed at the tackle positions multiple times. He's done better at the interior positions with Hunt (2nd round), Jones (udfa) and Connor Williams.

 
I don’t care at this point if we win or lose vs the Jets. All that good vibe mojo we had at 8-3 is gone.

McDaniels I hope learned that you can’t call plays in certain situations with a “Madden football” video game mindset. He literally is who I blame for our loss vs Buffalo. He is highly responsible for it because he refused to play smash mouth football in the 4th quarter when we were clearly mauling the Bills defense with our run blocking….for 3 full quarters. His inexperience has shown on this 5 game losing streak.

What else is starting to stand out his he is “too” loose with his players. While I am happy the culture has changed and the team truly is a family now he needs to learn to have some more discipline. We had far too many silly penalties….that is a direct result is loosy goosy practice habits. So I hope he tweaks things and comes in to 2023 with a tighter ship.

Everything about 2023 is health. If we are healthy we will do well.
 
I'm done commenting on this team until we either make the playoffs or go into the offseason.

I think we have the right head coach. Everything else is up for grabs...
I would prefer you keep commenting
That said I totally understand where you are at right now

You and @TripleThreat keep my mojo flowing so please don't stop
Keep going, you both inspire me and I imagine others to be a stronger Miami Dolphins' fan
I wish I had the same optimism you both display in here

Really just want you to know that you are with friends in here, there's no 1 camp vs the other, that's total BS
If you and TT have taught me anything, it's to take a step back sometimes and breathe
Is that OK to share in here?

I bleed just as much as all of you when they lose, I gain nothing when Tua or the HC or the GM makes a blunder
I simply do not trust the owner, GM, HC, QB or anyone else on this team, MoP is jaded
Let's run with that
 
I'm not ready to write this off as a lost season yet. Seems like a lot of Fins fans have basically decided it doesn't really matter if we make the playoffs because we're just going to lose right away anyway.

But aside from actually wanting to actually be involved during playoff time again, I do think we'd be a dangerous team. We have so much talent, and we got hot earlier in the year, if Tua can get back in there and recapture the magic with the WRs we could do some damage. The defense is inconsistent but TONS of individual talent on that squad and if they all gel at the right time, again, who knows.
 
I'm not ready to write this off as a lost season yet. Seems like a lot of Fins fans have basically decided it doesn't really matter if we make the playoffs because we're just going to lose right away anyway.

But aside from actually wanting to actually be involved during playoff time again, I do think we'd be a dangerous team. We have so much talent, and we got hot earlier in the year, if Tua can get back in there and recapture the magic with the WRs we could do some damage. The defense is inconsistent but TONS of individual talent on that squad and if they all gel at the right time, again, who knows.
If Skylar leads us in this Sunday and somehow the Bills vs Patriots has a lot of value to the Bills to play their starting unit all 4 quarters…..are we sure Tua is coming back after a second concussion this season?
 
The whole Bills/Bengals thing really throws all if this into a tizzy. Yes, Miami is dangerous in the playoffs but what I really fear is McDaniel becomes a one and done for us for sean payton and Brady. I'd ratehr see him grow into his coaching that have ross knee jerk this (especially since he is the main reason we can't do anything in the draft this offseason)
 
The whole Bills/Bengals thing really throws all if this into a tizzy. Yes, Miami is dangerous in the playoffs but what I really fear is McDaniel becomes a one and done for us for sean payton and Brady. I'd ratehr see him grow into his coaching that have ross knee jerk this (especially since he is the main reason we can't do anything in the draft this offseason)
Was thinking the same thing man. And I put the odd’s at 50/50 that could happen.
 
Any free agent QBs they can sign and play this week over Teddy and Skylar?


Edit to answer my own question: Ryan Fitzpatrick

Would rather see him than either of those 2
 
Let me understand this correctly

-Many of you are under the impression that Mike McDaniel could be a 1 and done Head Coach, that's hard to unwrap for me
-They ran Flores out of here, most of you did not take to him but I found his iron discipline music to my ears...Kenny Stills treatment just as a start.
Everyone knew who the guy in charge was. But because Flores finished 19-15 his last 2 seasons including a 10-7 run during the pandemic, you fire him, absorb a lawsuit, tamper, screw off our ever rising 1st Rd pick(18th overall) and you think Ross is going to hire who? Stephen Ross is the black sheep of owners, he was SUSPENDED for 8 games! Watson didn't get much more for fornicating with 25 women, we'll never know what the NFL truly uncovered, they'll never tell us the truth but it had to be worse than anything Daniel Snyder has done, use that as your barometer.

I think Miami gets beat by the Jets again this week and even at 8-9 which is a total disaster with this roster, nothing happens to McDaniel. You heard Stephen Ross, they don't measure success in terms of wins. If McDaniel did what he was asked to do then they won't let him go after 1 season.

Nobody wants to be the head coach here under Ross at this point, he's damaged goods as an owner if you didn't already know that. Harbaugh a fellow Michigan alum won't talk to him.
My money is on Ross extending Tua at the stroke of midnight on the 1st legal day he can sign a contract extension with the Miami Dolphins...gotta be May 1st
Team is already set in stone for '23 going into Spring '24, no draft capital left, no cap space, this 8-8 team is what it is and unless some big pieces are sent packing out of here, nothing is going to be different next year.

Back the Truck Up!
🚚 🚚 🚚 🚚 🚚
 
Flores got lucky with very easy schedules in 2020 and 2021. Remember Ian Brock? Coach MM and Miami have played one of the toughest schedules in 2022 and not only that, but playing teams that are peaking in this recent losing streak (except NE, which is better than their record). Plus lots of injuries. Brady could be equal to Tua, at least he doesn't get injured, but giving up non-existing draft capital for coach Payton is a hard NO. Give coach MM more time. If the ship starts sinking early in 2023, trade all assets and tank for Caleb.

@Ministry of Pain - Tua will not be extended in 2023.
 
Was MoP the only one having flashbacks the other night in Cincinnati?
University of Cincinnati has had multiple NFL visits this season
I am in no way insinuating that the NFL should have stopped the game where Tua was taken by ambulance to a hospital
But it sure did bring back bad memories of that other game vs Cinci
 
I said in an in game thread many weeks ago that this team would go as far as injuries and the defense would let them. At one point against NE they were without their projected starting secondary Xavien Howard, Byron Jones, Jevon Holland, Brandon Jones, and Nik Needham and before the game had to google who the starting LT was... it's been brutal these last 5 weeks with a rookie head coach learning on the job.

I want them to beat the jets, because I always want them to beat the jets. I still want them to make the playoffs to end the drought.
I'll think about about the season as a whole when the season ends...
 

Is the following excerpt a swipe at Stephen Ross?

"What I do know is nothing is more important to [Teddy] than making himself available to the team," McDaniel said. "It's tough to know anything until you can throw a football. I know he's going to do everything in his power, and if I was a betting man, I wouldn't bet because that's against my contract.

Tampering with the outcome of football games, tampering with players and head coaches., McDaniel is saying something here IMHO
 

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