*** 2025 Pittsburgh Steelers: DT Derrick Harmon selected in first round (8 Viewers)

[travdogg]

The only upside to signing Rodgers is that he's not a free agent, he's a cut, so he won't count against the comp picks. But the extra $20+ million he costs above replacement is not worth the pick we'd be saving.

Just sign a cheap 1-year stopgap instead of an expensive 2-year stopgap who's also an *******.

I am not even sure who that is though. Most of the stop gaps are gone. Jameis?

Nobody signed Russell Wilson yet, maybe he'd be better with his old pal DK there?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The only upside to signing Rodgers is that he's not a free agent, he's a cut, so he won't count against the comp picks. But the extra $20+ million he costs above replacement is not worth the pick we'd be saving.

Just sign a cheap 1-year stopgap instead of an expensive 2-year stopgap who's also an *******.

I am not even sure who that is though. Most of the stop gaps are gone. Jameis?

Russ and Rudolph? Trade for Milton? Draft a QB (rather not this year).

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

We signed Gainwell to a 1yr deal.

 

[fred_1_15301]

We signed Gainwell to a 1yr deal.

Warm body? Not a starter so they still need to get someone (likely in the draft).

 

[travdogg]

We signed Gainwell to a 1yr deal.

Warm body? Not a starter so they still need to get someone (likely in the draft).

Does Gainwell even beat out (Arthur Smith favorite) Patterson?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Does Gainwell even beat out (Arthur Smith favorite) Patterson?

I mean...can he lose four yards on pitch plays every time like CP has down to a science? If not, then maybe he cant.

Can't imagine Patterson wasn't a cut after the draft once they grabbed a younger guy, at least. Gainwell signing may just accelerate it.

Gainwell is a pretty decent COP back, who presumably Weidl is super familiar with, but more than anything feels like shoring up a spot so they arent forced to draft "X over Y in round N vs. N÷/- 1.""

 

[5-ish Finkle]

The only upside to signing Rodgers is that he's not a free agent, he's a cut, so he won't count against the comp picks. But the extra $20+ million he costs above replacement is not worth the pick we'd be saving.

Just sign a cheap 1-year stopgap instead of an expensive 2-year stopgap who's also an *******.

I am not even sure who that is though. Most of the stop gaps are gone. Jameis?

Russ and Rudolph? Trade for Milton? Draft a QB (rather not this year).

Flacco. Minshew. Mariota. Wentz.

(It's gonna be Russ)

 

[Godsbrother]

The only upside to signing Rodgers is that he's not a free agent, he's a cut, so he won't count against the comp picks. But the extra $20+ million he costs above replacement is not worth the pick we'd be saving.

Just sign a cheap 1-year stopgap instead of an expensive 2-year stopgap who's also an *******.

I am not even sure who that is though. Most of the stop gaps are gone. Jameis?

Russ and Rudolph? Trade for Milton? Draft a QB (rather not this year).

Flacco. Minshew. Mariota. Wentz.

(It's gonna be Russ)

Honestly with what is left out there i would go with Russ, Rodgers or Rudolph (whichever comes cheapest).

 

[Boone22]

I’d try to get Flacco or Rudolph as cheap as possible and then try to trade for Milton to see what he has as a potential starter or long term backup. Looking to next year to draft a QB of the future.

 

[3C's]

Tim Benz: 2 reasons Steelers fans should want Aaron Rodgers — and you're going to hate both

Aaron Rodgers is an aging, declining, narcissistic distraction of a quarterback who is asking for too much money. And I desperately hope the Pittsburgh Steelers sign him. For two reasons. Neither of which you will want to hear. First of all, regardless of who becomes the starting quarterback of the

triblive.com

Other than the "we'll hate it" part he's right.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This delay and potential big cap hit this year is preventing us from filling other holes with quality vets. That’s my main issue here. Not Rodgers. It’s that it seems there was no contingency if Fields walked. Unless Russ promised he would come back no matter what happens if they wanted him and was willing to wait.

 

[3C's]

Aaron Rodgers deciding between Steelers and Giants

9:15 a.m. — Per Ralph Vachianno of Fox Sports, Aaron Rodgers is deciding between New York and Pittsburgh. Vachianno adds that Rodgers is hopeful Minnesota will get involved, and that the fallback for both teams is Russell Wilson.


Oh I'm sure he hopes the Vikings get involved.

 

[karl.Racki]

Why do we need Kenneth Gainwell?

Isn't he the same as Warren?

 

[Gold Fox]

Why do we need Kenneth Gainwell?

Isn't he the same as Warren?

Depth. I think having Gainwell allows us to priortize a 2-down RB later in the draft instead of reaching for a 3-down back earlier.

 

[steelcityman]

He's better than Warren IMO. I really dont get the love fest with Warren, but whatever, he is good in pass pro. But the Steelers seem lost, just wandering thru free agency, waiting on an old man to decide what he wants to do.
Warren and Gainwell are only under 1 year deals, I believe, so who really cares. 2025 will be a disaster. Question is, do they target a legit RB1 this year in draft, or just stick to DL. Just really gonna have to pull off some miracles to get good in 2-3 yrs.

 

[travdogg]

The only upside to signing Rodgers is that he's not a free agent, he's a cut, so he won't count against the comp picks. But the extra $20+ million he costs above replacement is not worth the pick we'd be saving.

Just sign a cheap 1-year stopgap instead of an expensive 2-year stopgap who's also an *******.

I am not even sure who that is though. Most of the stop gaps are gone. Jameis?

Russ and Rudolph? Trade for Milton? Draft a QB (rather not this year).

Flacco. Minshew. Mariota. Wentz.

(It's gonna be Russ)

Definitely don't see Mariota signing up to play for Arthur Smith again.

 

[menobrown]

Isn't he the same as Warren?

Discount version but I guess veteran depth, assuming probably cheap. Not really worked up about it one way or the other.

 

[3C's]

Vann Jefferson, we barely knew ya.

 

[3C's]

The plot thickens.

https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1899844353939362136

Should have signed Danny Dimes.

 

[menobrown]

The plot thickens.

https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1899844353939362136

Should have signed Danny Dimes.

I don't think they are going to try and hold him hostage.

But I have been thinking the past few days that if you are team out there that has agreed with him on terms it would behoove you to keep it silent until he's cut and not put yourself in a position where the Jets can hold you and Rodgers hostage upon the realization the two parties have agreed on a contract.

Part of me thinks this has been the Steelers play the whole time, which is not make their intentions known regarding Rodgers until he was officially cut.

 

[3C's]

What if...the Jets "stole" Fields from the Steelers and then forced the Steelers hand by getting a draft pick for Rodgers. Bad look.

 

[3C's]

The plot thickens.

https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1899844353939362136

Should have signed Danny Dimes.

I don't think they are going to try and hold him hostage.

But I have been thinking the past few days that if you are team out there that has agreed with him on terms it would behoove you to keep it silent until he's cut and not put yourself in a position where the Jets can hold you and Rodgers hostage upon the realization the two parties have agreed on a contract.

Part of me thinks this has been the Steelers play the whole time, which is not make their intentions known regarding Rodgers until he was officially cut.

Well, if it was only the Steelers in the mix that would be 1 thing, but at least 1 other team (Giants) is in the mix and possibly others. So there's certainly a business decision for the Jets to make and they will do what's best for them before worrying about the player. See also the Falcons/Cousins.

 

[menobrown]

The plot thickens.

https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1899844353939362136

Should have signed Danny Dimes.

I don't think they are going to try and hold him hostage.

But I have been thinking the past few days that if you are team out there that has agreed with him on terms it would behoove you to keep it silent until he's cut and not put yourself in a position where the Jets can hold you and Rodgers hostage upon the realization the two parties have agreed on a contract.

Part of me thinks this has been the Steelers play the whole time, which is not make their intentions known regarding Rodgers until he was officially cut.

Well, if it was only the Steelers in the mix that would be 1 thing, but at least 1 other team (Giants) is in the mix and possibly others. So there's certainly a business decision for the Jets to make and they will do what's best for them before worrying about the player. See also the Falcons/Cousins.

Falcons situation is a little different and we don't know what they are going to do yet either and they still have 5 days I believe to decide.

Like I said, not seeing them keeping him hostage. Not the way todya's NFL treats future HOF players,not worth the bad look.

 

[3C's]

The plot thickens.

https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1899844353939362136

Should have signed Danny Dimes.

I don't think they are going to try and hold him hostage.

But I have been thinking the past few days that if you are team out there that has agreed with him on terms it would behoove you to keep it silent until he's cut and not put yourself in a position where the Jets can hold you and Rodgers hostage upon the realization the two parties have agreed on a contract.

Part of me thinks this has been the Steelers play the whole time, which is not make their intentions known regarding Rodgers until he was officially cut.

Well, if it was only the Steelers in the mix that would be 1 thing, but at least 1 other team (Giants) is in the mix and possibly others. So there's certainly a business decision for the Jets to make and they will do what's best for them before worrying about the player. See also the Falcons/Cousins.

Falcons situation is a little different and we don't know what they are going to do yet either and they still have 5 days I believe to decide.

Like I said, not seeing them keeping him hostage. Not the way todya's NFL treats future HOF players,not worth the bad look.

Rodgers has a no trade clause so he can also hold them hostage. Regardless, word is they're going to release him with the June 1st designation. Guess we'll see.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Just sign Flacco and Mac Jones for a dollar each and tell Ayahuasca Pete to go wait on the Vikings at this point.

Hell, I don't know that Flacco couldn't probably get relatively similar results (e.g. keep things "on schedule" while being a statue that is getting murdered behind the Steelers' OL) for a year, for a fraction of the cost. Flacco will almost certainly get injured/die though, so they could roll out Mac Daddy once that happened and hit the toilet for real, potentially increasing chances of acquiring a real QB from a strong class in 2026.

Seriously though...A-A-ron is likely going to drag this out for every second possible, cuz it gives him the full spotlight for every sports news cycle until he lands someplace. He's a narcicists narcisist, so he is almost certainly in heaven right now (if he isn't in day three of a total darkness retreat, or in Egypt, or some ish.)

The Steelers have already bungled this who thing pretty terribly, why keep compounding it by continuing delay? Minshew and Mariotat by lunch, or bust!

(Again...it's going to be Russ.)

 

[C & C]

Just sign Flacco and Mac Jones for a dollar each and tell Ayahuasca Pete to go wait on the Vikings at this point.

Hell, I don't know that Flacco couldn't probably get relatively similar results (e.g. keep things "on schedule" while being a statue that is getting murdered behind the Steelers' OL) for a year, for a fraction of the cost. Flacco will almost certainly get injured/die though, so they could roll out Mac Daddy once that happened and hit the toilet for real, potentially increasing chances of acquiring a real QB from a strong class in 2026.

Seriously though...A-A-ron is likely going to drag this out for every second possible, cuz it gives him the full spotlight for every sports news cycle until he lands someplace. He's a narcicists narcisist, so he is almost certainly in heaven right now (if he isn't in day three of a total darkness retreat, or in Egypt, or some ish.)

The Steelers have already bungled this who thing pretty terribly, why keep compounding it by continuing delay? Minshew and Mariotat by lunch, or bust!

(Again...it's going to be Russ.)

I agree with the vibe here, but no one is dragging this out. Rodgers is still a Jet. They cant cut him until 4pm to be able to declare him a June 1st cut. So, technically the Steelers cant be talking to Rodgers yet.

 

[crushedspirit]

Flacco is also old and immobile as well, but at a fraction of the cost and minus the headaches.

Call him up.

 

[3C's]

Just sign Flacco and Mac Jones for a dollar each and tell Ayahuasca Pete to go wait on the Vikings at this point.

Hell, I don't know that Flacco couldn't probably get relatively similar results (e.g. keep things "on schedule" while being a statue that is getting murdered behind the Steelers' OL) for a year, for a fraction of the cost. Flacco will almost certainly get injured/die though, so they could roll out Mac Daddy once that happened and hit the toilet for real, potentially increasing chances of acquiring a real QB from a strong class in 2026.

Seriously though...A-A-ron is likely going to drag this out for every second possible, cuz it gives him the full spotlight for every sports news cycle until he lands someplace. He's a narcicists narcisist, so he is almost certainly in heaven right now (if he isn't in day three of a total darkness retreat, or in Egypt, or some ish.)

The Steelers have already bungled this who thing pretty terribly, why keep compounding it by continuing delay? Minshew and Mariotat by lunch, or bust!

(Again...it's going to be Russ.)

I agree with the vibe here, but no one is dragging this out. Rodgers is still a Jet. They cant cut him until 4pm to be able to declare him a June 1st cut. So, technically the Steelers cant be talking to Rodgers yet.

Sure but all those deals that have been made since Monday are not officially inked until today either. "Legal tampering"

 

[Judge Smails]

Don't really know how Rodgers could be commanding any premium at this point in his career. He's not worth the $ being floated around.

 

[C & C]

Just sign Flacco and Mac Jones for a dollar each and tell Ayahuasca Pete to go wait on the Vikings at this point.

Hell, I don't know that Flacco couldn't probably get relatively similar results (e.g. keep things "on schedule" while being a statue that is getting murdered behind the Steelers' OL) for a year, for a fraction of the cost. Flacco will almost certainly get injured/die though, so they could roll out Mac Daddy once that happened and hit the toilet for real, potentially increasing chances of acquiring a real QB from a strong class in 2026.

Seriously though...A-A-ron is likely going to drag this out for every second possible, cuz it gives him the full spotlight for every sports news cycle until he lands someplace. He's a narcicists narcisist, so he is almost certainly in heaven right now (if he isn't in day three of a total darkness retreat, or in Egypt, or some ish.)

The Steelers have already bungled this who thing pretty terribly, why keep compounding it by continuing delay? Minshew and Mariotat by lunch, or bust!

(Again...it's going to be Russ.)

I agree with the vibe here, but no one is dragging this out. Rodgers is still a Jet. They cant cut him until 4pm to be able to declare him a June 1st cut. So, technically the Steelers cant be talking to Rodgers yet.

Sure but all those deals that have been made since Monday are not officially inked until today either. "Legal tampering"

Sorry, I'm not following you on how this pertains to Rodgers. Anyone who has been cut can negotiate and sign. Anyone who contract ends at the start of the new league year, 4pm today, can negotiate during the "legal tampering" period. Rodgers has another year on his contract. He is neither of those two things and can't legally negotiate until he is released or given team permission. Have the Jets have given him permission? I haven't heard they have, but it is possible.

With all that said, the Steelers should have had themselves in a better position this past week.

 

[menobrown]

Don't really know how Rodgers could be commanding any premium at this point in his career. He's not worth the $ being floated around.

I'm personally not buying those reports of his big money ask.

 

[menobrown]

Not that anyone asked me but if the Steelers had taken the path at QB based on what I wanted then I'd have tried to sign Winston and Zach Wilson for about $10-15m total. Winston would be put in the "pole position" and I'd know he'll throw some untimely picks but he'll also make plays and every week he's my QB my team at least has a fighting chance to keep up with the other team. Wilson would have been the backup with youth and tools that have some element of intrigue that I'd have liked to work with for a year to see if I could mine some of his potential. If one of them works out great, if not maybe they help you get a better draft pick and/or get you comp pick in 27.

With Wilson off the market I'd still be down for a Browns/Steelers QB reject swap where we signed both Flacco and Winston while they are busy trying to to make something out of Pickett. Flacco and Winston are kind of birds of the same feather, they can both put points on the board, just no idea for who on any given play. Winston moves a little better is his advantage.

With any option try to draft a QB.

This of course is all moot as it does not sound like they are are into any of those options except maybe drafting a QB.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I agree with the vibe here, but no one is dragging this out. Rodgers is still a Jet. They cant cut him until 4pm to be able to declare him a June 1st cut. So, technically the Steelers cant be talking to Rodgers yet.

Everyone knows that's pretty much horse ess though.

With all that said, the Steelers should have had themselves in a better position this past week.

This is the main/correct takeaway. No way they should have been in this position at all.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Winston moves a little better is his advantage.

"Refrigerator on back" vs. "Industrial deep freeze on back"?

I'd prolly rather see JDubs and <insert name here> for 2025 than Rodgers and <insert name here>, regardless of the difference in cost, honestly. Flacco too, if I consider it "seriously." They need to bottom out (whatever that looks like for Tomlin. 7 wins? 8?). Just end this pointless "non-losing streak" so they can openly admit they have been spinning their wheels in limbo since Ben retired, rather than clinging to this "we're close" mentality...which just isn't true.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Don't really know how Rodgers could be commanding any premium at this point in his career. He's not worth the $ being floated around.

I'm personally not buying those reports of his big money ask.

I have little problem believing Rodgers would ask for it. However, I have more of a problem believing even the most numbskull of teams out there would be seriously entertaining the request.

 

[menobrown]

Don't really know how Rodgers could be commanding any premium at this point in his career. He's not worth the $ being floated around.

I'm personally not buying those reports of his big money ask.

I have little problem believing Rodgers would ask for it. However, I have more of a problem believing even the most numbskull of teams out there would be seriously entertaining the request.

I'll mention again he took a legit pay cut on the Jets. Legit gave away guaranteed money he gave up to help bring in players. He may rub a lot of people the wrong way but that deserves respect to me and part of that respect is given him the benefit of he doubt these rumors are nonsense.

 

[menobrown]

This is the main/correct takeaway. No way they should have been in this position at all.

I can't say I agree, not yet anyway. Got no problems letting Fields walk and if they really wanted him they could have kept him. They never showed interest in Daniel Jones, even after Fields left. If they showed any interest in Darnold it was probably light. Basically almost every option they probably have any interest in is still available. Just because we don't know their plans does not mean they don't have one. if someone is mad they put themselves in this position that's just another way of someone telling me they are not happy Fields cruised. I'm more then ok with it.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Regardless of all of the nonsense I'm opining about guys like Rodgers, Flacco and Winston I think the plan is, was, and continues to be, "We're going to take the temperature on Fields and would like to keep him if he'll take our number....and if he doesn't we're bringing back Russ."

"Putting themselves in this position", in my mind at least, isn't just from the last week/two months. It's from the moment they didn't draft a QB for life-after-Ben until a year too late, and then took the provincial route on the player when they finally did it.

 

[sm8680]

Van Junk signs with Tennessee 1 year deal 2.5 million. I'm glad he's gone.

 

[sm8680]

4PM is coming up and if the AR nightmare occurs. I'll probably lose interest in the Steelers. Aging defense and older than mummy dust QB. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. The only good news would be that he retires.

 

[Boone22]

Van Junk signs with Tennessee 1 year deal 2.5 million. I'm glad he's gone.

Van, wait…

 

[3C's]

Just sign Flacco and Mac Jones for a dollar each and tell Ayahuasca Pete to go wait on the Vikings at this point.

Hell, I don't know that Flacco couldn't probably get relatively similar results (e.g. keep things "on schedule" while being a statue that is getting murdered behind the Steelers' OL) for a year, for a fraction of the cost. Flacco will almost certainly get injured/die though, so they could roll out Mac Daddy once that happened and hit the toilet for real, potentially increasing chances of acquiring a real QB from a strong class in 2026.

Seriously though...A-A-ron is likely going to drag this out for every second possible, cuz it gives him the full spotlight for every sports news cycle until he lands someplace. He's a narcicists narcisist, so he is almost certainly in heaven right now (if he isn't in day three of a total darkness retreat, or in Egypt, or some ish.)

The Steelers have already bungled this who thing pretty terribly, why keep compounding it by continuing delay? Minshew and Mariotat by lunch, or bust!

(Again...it's going to be Russ.)

I agree with the vibe here, but no one is dragging this out. Rodgers is still a Jet. They cant cut him until 4pm to be able to declare him a June 1st cut. So, technically the Steelers cant be talking to Rodgers yet.

Sure but all those deals that have been made since Monday are not officially inked until today either. "Legal tampering"

Sorry, I'm not following you on how this pertains to Rodgers. Anyone who has been cut can negotiate and sign. Anyone who contract ends at the start of the new league year, 4pm today, can negotiate during the "legal tampering" period. Rodgers has another year on his contract. He is neither of those two things and can't legally negotiate until he is released or given team permission. Have the Jets have given him permission? I haven't heard they have, but it is possible.

With all that said, the Steelers should have had themselves in a better position this past week.

My point is, there's a "legal tampering" period but everyone knows all of those deals are finalized before that starts. And none of them are actually official until today, but they're "done". Likewise, a few teams have certainly talked to the Rodgers camp and a deal could be agreed upon before 4pm, pending the Jets actually releasing him.

 

[Godsbrother]

Please no Rodgers…

 

[3C's]

Apparently the Vikings are not in the chase so it's the Giants and Steelers. Steelers going to try to low ball him I bet. Then it's back to Russ.

 

[sm8680]

What's messed up the Steelers don't even have a backup signed. You could easily argue that they don't even have a legitimate 3rd string QB signed. Skylar comes off more like a practice squad player or a body for camp. The list of undesirables is dwindling.

Here are the still available 2025 QB Free Agents with their most recent team.

Aaron Rodgers - New York Jets
Russell Wilson - Pittsburgh Steelers
Jameis Winston - Cleveland Browns
Mac Jones - Jacksonville Jaguars
Trey Lance - Dallas Cowboys
Cooper Rush - Dallas Cowboys
Carson Wentz - Kansas City Chiefs
Mason Rudolph - Tennessee Titans

 

[sm8680]

Please for the love of God. Let this happen

Sources: Free-agent QB Russell Wilson is scheduled to fly tonight to Cleveland to visit with the Browns on Thursday, before being scheduled to fly to New York on Thursday night to visit Friday with the Giants.

I don't care how the Siberia Browns pay him if they want to dip into my 401k they can.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

What's messed up the Steelers don't even have a backup signed. You could easily argue that they don't even have a legitimate 3rd string QB signed. Skylar comes off more like a practice squad player or a body for camp. The list of undesirables is dwindling.

Here are the still available 2025 QB Free Agents with their most recent team.

Aaron Rodgers - New York Jets
Russell Wilson - Pittsburgh Steelers
Jameis Winston - Cleveland Browns
Mac Jones - Jacksonville Jaguars
Trey Lance - Dallas Cowboys
Cooper Rush - Dallas Cowboys
Carson Wentz - Kansas City Chiefs
Mason Rudolph - Tennessee Titans

"Russ and Trey: 2025. Make Ameri-burgh Gag Again!"

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Please for the love of God. Let this happen

Sources: Free-agent QB Russell Wilson is scheduled to fly tonight to Cleveland to visit with the Browns on Thursday, before being scheduled to fly to New York on Thursday night to visit Friday with the Giants.

I don't care how the Siberia Browns pay him if they want to dip into my 401k they can.

How would it be if Kenny wound up backing up Mr. Unlimited a year later after all?

 

[McBokonon]

Winston moves a little better is his advantage.

Not just that, but he can fit his whole hand in his mouth.

 

[sm8680]

Winston moves a little better is his advantage.

Not just that, but he can fit his whole hand in his mouth.

So can Kenny P