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2025 Team Defense & Defense by Committee Thread (3 Viewers)
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flapgreen
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flapgreen
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Picked the Jets up last week for this coming stretch -- in today over the Ravens for 17 points in my league, up against the Bills next week to cover for the Ravens Bye.
TEN and BUF in WK 13 and 14 as well.
Andrew74
Footballguy
This was a mistake. Would have the game locked up if I’d started MN. Now there’s a high probability I lose. I’m really surprised KC didn’t get more sacks and TOs.
Of course I didn’t expect MN to get 10 sacks. 10. Damn. And a DST TD. ?
themeistersinger
Footballguy
So what do people think about the Bears DST going forward? Today was as much about the Bills as the Bears (if not more so). The schedule starts to get tougher from here on out. Does Mack come back healthy next week?
10 - home vs. Detroit - should be tough but the Lions looked bad today
11 - home vs. Minnesota - will be tough with Cook back and Diggs rested after 2 weeks off
12 - at Detroit
13 - at NY Giants (OK, this one is easy)
14 - home vs. LA Rams
15 - home vs. Green Bay
16 - at San Francisco
Time to think about moving on from the Bears? Or does Mack make everything better? It is nice that 4 out of 6 are at home.
10 - home vs. Detroit - should be tough but the Lions looked bad today
11 - home vs. Minnesota - will be tough with Cook back and Diggs rested after 2 weeks off
12 - at Detroit
13 - at NY Giants (OK, this one is easy)
14 - home vs. LA Rams
15 - home vs. Green Bay
16 - at San Francisco
Time to think about moving on from the Bears? Or does Mack make everything better? It is nice that 4 out of 6 are at home.
shadyridr
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I see one tough game vs LA. The rest of the teams they play ooze points to opposing defenses.
Was hell bent on dropping them after this week, but after Stafford just got sacked 10 times by MN maybe they're worth holding for these upcoming DET games.
Plus, K. Mack could be back. Could change quite a bit.
Come fantasy playoff time...gone for sure.
JIMGET
Footballguy
I'm definitely riding them to the playoffs. At that point I'll make a decision. Will almost definitely stream Week 14, and then make a decision about the Green Bay game.
The good news is that by that point we'll be past bye weeks so it will be easier to free up a spot on the end of the roster for a second D. (That's also why I will probably stick with them vs. Minny in a couple weeks).
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Yeah, that was my plan, dump them before the Lions. I will probably stick with them this week. I've got Kittle on Bye week 11 and Mahomes week 12, and we have a short bench, so tough to carry two DSTs for now. Will be easier in week 13. Have no plans to start them week 14, but if they look good between now and then might need to carry 2 DSTs that week.kyoun1e said:
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
The Chargers are on the WW and I've been rotating defenses weekly. I have the number 1 claim, which I've been saving to hopefully find the 2018 version of Kamara for weeks now... Debating if I just use it on SD for their next 3 - Oak, Den, AZ.
They're def not as solid for their next 3 though - Cin, KC, Balt
They're def not as solid for their next 3 though - Cin, KC, Balt
Peak
Footballguy
I just picked up SD for the same reason. Figured I'd use them for a couple of weeks and go fishing for a DEF to finish the year.
Pigskin Fanatic
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Buccs not a sexy pick this week vs WAS, but @NYG then SF next two weeks. Preemptive pickup opportunity. Bad schedule again after that though.
JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo
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I'm going to try and grab 'em to complement the Rams due to a bad match-up (KC week 11) plus upcoming bye week on week 12. Not sure about using a #1 claim for them though.fantasycurse42 said:
Instinctive
Footballguy
As I look to the playoffs I'm holding Carolina, Indy, and Washington right now in a league with enough bench space to justify it. I'm thinking of adding Detroit for their game against the Bills, but it's tough to carry 4 defenses and also tough to pick them up that far in advance.
How far out do y'all look at these things? Does it matter if you lock in a playoff spot early? I feel like I may drop the team I won;t use weeks 14-16 to grab teams specificlaly for those 3 weeks.
How far out do y'all look at these things? Does it matter if you lock in a playoff spot early? I feel like I may drop the team I won;t use weeks 14-16 to grab teams specificlaly for those 3 weeks.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I grabbed Chargers on Sunday before rosters locked. Some good matchups after getting the Raiders this week.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I really want to keep BAL given how strong their D is overall, my heart says stick with them as they can perform, but fantasy-wise my head is screaming to cut bait. Only two favorable match ups left (OAK, TB) and they have really been hammered in terms of FPs scored given the high scoring teams they've faced.
I think I may have to get over the name brand and early-season success for reality. Would love more insight into why hold or keep them. FBG still holding that line, ranking BAL 2nd overall ROS, which is hard to see given upcoming games
DEFINITELY was eyeing the Jets/Colts pairing, but can we really trust either D? Outside of the BUF game (22+ points in my league), they've had a total of 4.75 points -- again, total -- over the other 4 games over the last 5, and some of them what looked to be more favorable match ups (OAK, NYJ, HOU before their win streak solidified) and folded against NE.
Even though the match ups look juicy for IND, is it better to risk them not performing versus going with a more name brand D with more talent (JAX, BAL) ROS?
Speaking of which, how do we feel about the Jags for ROS? Good schedule WK 12 on.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Good points, normally I'd consider CIN a non-cupcake matchup -- teams in this division seem to play each other hard with low scoring smashmouth games, but CIN has sometimes brought a lot of firepower to games. Without AJ Green, that dynamic would change.
But holding through a bye and for only 2 match ups seems a potential waste of a roster spot when lesser known name brand Ds have much juicier face-offs.
Really don't want to drop BAL, but seems like the smarter thing to do. For those who don't have BAL, if you saw them on the wire during their bye, would you make a play for them? That may be the truest test for me to gauge whether to burn a spot for them or not -- do others covet them, or do they more see them as having stout matchups with better options on the wire ROS.
Stompin' Tom Connors
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I like NE and GB (despite their ailments). IND looks great but just don't trust them, and I have no idea what will happen in that Jets/Bills game -- could easily see the Jets suddenly find their rhythm even against a middling D like BUF.
Stompin' Tom Connors
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Waivers ran, and unfortunately NE and JAX were taken before my priority -- at this point may be rolling with the Jets/Colts stack and shedding BAL (really don't want to, but I really would only use them confidently in two match ups through ROS).
As I still don't fully trust either of these Ds (someone talk me down) will see if I can supplement this stack with D's others may drop in the coming weeks, including potentially looking to scoop BAL back up after the early games on SUN (I just can't quit you!).
But it's hard to argue against the soft lineup these two Ds creates. For now, that gives me:
WK 10: BUF (or JAX, but how do you not play a D against the Bills at this point?).
WK 11: TEN
WK 12: MIA
WK 13: @TEN/@JAX
WK 14: @BUF
WK 15: DAL
WK 16: NYG
Only two road games as well.
As I still don't fully trust either of these Ds (someone talk me down) will see if I can supplement this stack with D's others may drop in the coming weeks, including potentially looking to scoop BAL back up after the early games on SUN (I just can't quit you!).
But it's hard to argue against the soft lineup these two Ds creates. For now, that gives me:
WK 10: BUF (or JAX, but how do you not play a D against the Bills at this point?).
WK 11: TEN
WK 12: MIA
WK 13: @TEN/@JAX
WK 14: @BUF
WK 15: DAL
WK 16: NYG
Only two road games as well.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I've got Buffalo/Jax/Indy/SF as FA...
I'm kinda torn between SF & Jax.
Thought?
I'm kinda torn between SF & Jax.
Thought?
robb
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
SF still has an upcoming bye, and has in my mind one clear soft matchup ROS (@TB in WK 12) -- maybe NYG and DEN, but I don't see SF as the kind of D that can hold even against these highly variable offenses.
Overall, they are not a high scoring fantgasy D (26th overall in my league's scoring) -- they look good thanks to great back-to-back performances against subpar teams (ARI, OAK) but before that, had only one game where they scored more than 5 FPS (again, my league's scoring which is yardage and points), with an average of 1.9 FPS per game.
JAX has no bye, has what I see as 2 (maybe 3) soft opponents (BUF, TEN, MIA), and has more proven talent, and is averaging around 9.1 FPS per game.
So....JAX.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Porque no los dos?
Stacking these two looks good going into the playoffs given match ups. However, I don't exactly like the Bills playoff schedule, facing three teams that can score on them (NYJ, DET, @NE).
IND looks better in that regard, with JAX, TEN, MIA, @JAX in the next 4 games, a tough match up on the road in HOU, then finishing with DAL and NYG at home for weeks 15 and 16.
It's why I picked up IND -- really favorable schedule outside of WK 14. Still don't know if I can trust them, though.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Vikings were dropped, are they worth trying to stash for 14-16?
We charge transaction fee's for add drops and have only 4 bench spots. - I have the Eagles
It's weird scoring system: 1 for sacks, INT's, FR's and the rest is 5 points for under 100 rush allowed and 5 more for under 150 passing (rarely happens)
I've had zero luck in these settings.
We charge transaction fee's for add drops and have only 4 bench spots. - I have the Eagles
It's weird scoring system: 1 for sacks, INT's, FR's and the rest is 5 points for under 100 rush allowed and 5 more for under 150 passing (rarely happens)
I've had zero luck in these settings.
Stompin' Tom Connors
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WAS dropped on the wire. They came into last week as a consensus solid pick for WK 9 and ROS.
Went out and laid a bit of an egg.
How do people see them going forward? Still have a favorable schedule, but are people still trusting them as a great D to stack with others for ROS?
Really struggling with trying to get some solid Ds for the stretch. BAL/NYJ/IND right now, with needing to drop someone to cover a TE bye.
Between BAL, NYJ, IND, and WAS, who would you potentially carry forward to help ROS?
Lots of q's in this thread recently, but would love to also start generating some answers!
Went out and laid a bit of an egg.
How do people see them going forward? Still have a favorable schedule, but are people still trusting them as a great D to stack with others for ROS?
Really struggling with trying to get some solid Ds for the stretch. BAL/NYJ/IND right now, with needing to drop someone to cover a TE bye.
Between BAL, NYJ, IND, and WAS, who would you potentially carry forward to help ROS?
Lots of q's in this thread recently, but would love to also start generating some answers!
gordonjerry
Footballguy
This news may bump the Bills for this weekend. According to SNY's Ralph Vacchiano, Josh McCown will start Week 10 against the Bills. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2090/josh-mccown
Stompin' Tom -- Between BAL, NYJ, IND, and WAS. I would carry forward Indy due the Defense having "on paper" a minimum of 4 games they should over-perform.
Stompin' Tom -- Between BAL, NYJ, IND, and WAS. I would carry forward Indy due the Defense having "on paper" a minimum of 4 games they should over-perform.
flapgreen
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NeverEnough
Footballguy
I'm sticking with the Jets & will see what is on the ww for their bye.
in2win
Footballguy
I think I am rolling with Washington and Houston ROS
I was forced to drop LAC last week who I wanted to hold as they were getting better, healthier and Bosa is due back shortly but I needed the Bench spot. Fortunately for me someone was in the same situation and dropped Hou this week who I went in an snatched up.
I see Buffalo and Tennessee sitting on a lot of WW and if your desperate you could probably due much worse. They both have stingy defenses who may not have big TD potential but will hold offenses to low scores ROS
Anyone have any input on Jax ROS? Will they show any reminiscence of 2017? They were just dropped last week and are still sitting out there. Will Fournette coming back help slow down the offenses game-plan leading to more success on the defensive side of the ball?
I was forced to drop LAC last week who I wanted to hold as they were getting better, healthier and Bosa is due back shortly but I needed the Bench spot. Fortunately for me someone was in the same situation and dropped Hou this week who I went in an snatched up.
I see Buffalo and Tennessee sitting on a lot of WW and if your desperate you could probably due much worse. They both have stingy defenses who may not have big TD potential but will hold offenses to low scores ROS
Anyone have any input on Jax ROS? Will they show any reminiscence of 2017? They were just dropped last week and are still sitting out there. Will Fournette coming back help slow down the offenses game-plan leading to more success on the defensive side of the ball?
4th&inches
Footballguy
Personally, I'm holding them as the Defense roulette is a bit tough and MIN has actually played really well as of late.
My initial thought was to grab BUF, but I may be crazy in saying this, but I think this is actually worse from a BUF D perspective. I think McCown will protect the ball better = less turnovers. They may not score as much, but the potential for turnovers is also lower.
Again, this is all my opinion and not really based of any sort of deep statistical analysis.
I dropped the bills dst because of this. McNown is pretty good. He'll move the ball well and not turnover it much
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
All three Ds have fairly good match ups, and I think the 49ers may have the best match up on paper. Hard to trust any of the three, but at least the 9ers have some solid momentum against weaker teams over the last 2 games, and they are at home.
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