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**(3-0) Eagles at (3-0) Buccaneers**(+3.5, 44) 1:00 (5 Viewers)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The Prime Matchup in the 1:00 window
Much to say and share about the challenges the Bucs face trying to win this football game
Down at least 2 and maybe 3 starting OL, shuffling the others around from their usual starting positions
Mike Evans OUT, Baker playing thru injury, Godwin's 1st game back and will take some time shaking the cobwebs off
I feel like Philly will win this game rather convincingly, 2 years ago the Bucs ran them off the field in the Playoffs at home, revenge factor plays a part in this
Feels like Philly 27...Tampa Bay 17 which is the point total Vegas has in mind, Bucs might trail by 2-3 TDs before they put some lipstick on this one
Hope I'm wrong but the gut is saying the Eagles have a huge advantage in the trenches right now
Much to say and share about the challenges the Bucs face trying to win this football game
Down at least 2 and maybe 3 starting OL, shuffling the others around from their usual starting positions
Mike Evans OUT, Baker playing thru injury, Godwin's 1st game back and will take some time shaking the cobwebs off
I feel like Philly will win this game rather convincingly, 2 years ago the Bucs ran them off the field in the Playoffs at home, revenge factor plays a part in this
Feels like Philly 27...Tampa Bay 17 which is the point total Vegas has in mind, Bucs might trail by 2-3 TDs before they put some lipstick on this one
Hope I'm wrong but the gut is saying the Eagles have a huge advantage in the trenches right now
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Let’s go Bucs!
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Todd Bowles is the one defensive mind that has always been able to figure out Hurts.
However, last year in this game the Eagles were without Brown, Smith and Lane Johnson. Which makes their offense a lot worse. All three should play this year.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Marginally concerned about tomorrow. Todd Bowles just seems to know how to rile Hurts. Missing Evans helps us but very concerned about Egbuka against our CB2 (is it adoree or Keelee?).
Picturing a close game, where we’re possibly behind in the fourth quarter. Defense makes a play and Jalen leads a comeback drive.
Could totally see us dropping one here but I think we pull it out.
Eagles win 24-23
Picturing a close game, where we’re possibly behind in the fourth quarter. Defense makes a play and Jalen leads a comeback drive.
Could totally see us dropping one here but I think we pull it out.
Eagles win 24-23
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm a bias Bucs fan for the record so while I normally like to watch the Eagles play, I will be rooting for the Bucs
I don't think they have a great chance this weekend with all the injuries but I'm sure they'll play hard
I'd like to see them get off the field in one piece and not sustain more injuries before some of the big match ups they have coming up on the schedule
-Eagles lost a LB/Edge guy this week if I'm not mistaken
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Nolan Smith, who is our best edge rusher by a lot. It’s a huge loss for the defense. Also potential for our CB2 to be downgraded.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Eagles offensive line has NOT played well this year, especially in the run game. Saquon is not finding the holes he did last year and is already looking a little frustrated. And on the other side of the ball, thru 3 games, the Eagles statistically are not a good run defense right now either. If the Eagles can improve in both areas I think they win this game but it’s a guess at this point if that happens. And CB2 so far this year has been a pain point and we will have Kelee Ringo making the start there this Sunday. I expect the Bucs find ways to target him.
In the end Eagles and Hurts pull it out but it’s gonna be stressful
31-29 Birds win
In the end Eagles and Hurts pull it out but it’s gonna be stressful
31-29 Birds win
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
I’m gonna write a long write up for this game. I don’t expect anybody to slog thru it, but tl;dr is: this is gonna be a tight, tight game that the Eagles pull out.
TBB: 23
PHI: 24
This game is another bare-knuckle fight, and the outcome is a coin flip. It’s gonna be a close game up until the end. Injuries are piling up on both teams at key positions. And the weather, with an on-field temperature of around 100 degrees, is going to effect both teams.
Philly on Offense:
They desperately want to run the ball as effectively as they were last year. The run game has been anemic this year, so far. A lot of factors have contributed: play calling has been too predictable, Saquon has been pressing, and biggest factor- the Oline has struggled early. Landon and Jurgens have not looked good the first couple of weeks. Landon is clearly fighting thru a bunch of injuries, and Jurgens looks pedestrian. Steen has been solid, but he’s a drop-off from the man mountain that Becton was last year. Mailata has had some gaffes and even Lane doesn’t look like Lane.
Tampa’s D has some key injuries, but they are playing stonewall run D. Losing Kancey was a big blow. Logan Hall being Questionable is another big blow. Vita Vea is a run-stuffing beast, but can he hold up for 60-65 plays in 100 degree heat?
It’ll be interesting to see what Patullo dials up- do you run up the middle to try and wear down a thin Dline? Or do you run pulls outside and let Jurgens play to his strength on the 2nd level against a swarming LB corps? If they get stubborn and try to run heavy 12 and 13 personnel with condensed formations, they will get destroyed.
What the Eagles should’ve learned from the 2nd Half last week is that passing the ball makes the D respect the run. Bowles has given Jalen fits- closing down running lanes for him and making him eat sacks with exotic blitzes and great lane integrity.
Philly has AJ, Devonta and Goedert all healthy this week. Their bread-and-butter seam routes won’t be easy against Tampa’s zone. They have to attack the middle of the field with mesh routes and crossers, and give Jalen easy hot reads that don’t take 5 seconds to develop. Jalen has got to be bursting at the seams to shake the monkey off his back and decisively beat Bowles. Fantasy-wise, Devonta has a big game. Jalen has about 200 passing with 1 TD, 35 rushing with 1 tush push. Saquon cracks 100 yds, just barely and gets a TD.
TBB on Offense:
Wirfs coming back and playing meaningful snaps could be huge. LT,LG and C all upgrade significantly. That Right side is still a mess. Whoever rolls out at RG plus Charlie Heck at RT are where the Eagles will attack. Bucky Irving hasn’t been great behind this Oline, but Philly’s rush D has been weak. Missing Evans and Godwin in his first week back, look for Tampa to lean on the run game. Irving gets 120 and a TD.
Baker is a winner. He will find a way to beat you. If you don’t get pressure on him, he will find an open guy and pick up a 1st down. And he has underrated legs. Losing Nolan Smith is a huge loss for Philly. He anchors the run better than anyone on the EDGE, and he is the best pass rusher. They’re gonna have to replace him with a healthy dose of Za’Darius Smith and Uche. They’re gonna have to rely on Okoronkwo and Ojulare coming in and doing something/anything. With the heat, on top of it, I fear the line won’t be able to generate enough pressure to keep Baker from matriculating downfield. Look for a lot more blitzes than usual from Campbell/Baun/Mukuba/DeJean.
Evans out is probably the biggest factor for Tampa- if he was playing, I’d flip my prediction, and call a TBB win. Egbuka is a great player early. I think Godwin will be limited and is gonna be more of a decoy than a major factor.
The young OC will make it easier on Philly’s secondary if they run out a static X, whether it’s Miller or Shepard. CB2 is gonna be a problem for Philly, and is the glaring “easy button” that Baker is going to be looking for all game. I could definitely see Shepard having a big fantasy game this week 6/90/1.
TBB: 23
PHI: 24
This game is another bare-knuckle fight, and the outcome is a coin flip. It’s gonna be a close game up until the end. Injuries are piling up on both teams at key positions. And the weather, with an on-field temperature of around 100 degrees, is going to effect both teams.
Philly on Offense:
They desperately want to run the ball as effectively as they were last year. The run game has been anemic this year, so far. A lot of factors have contributed: play calling has been too predictable, Saquon has been pressing, and biggest factor- the Oline has struggled early. Landon and Jurgens have not looked good the first couple of weeks. Landon is clearly fighting thru a bunch of injuries, and Jurgens looks pedestrian. Steen has been solid, but he’s a drop-off from the man mountain that Becton was last year. Mailata has had some gaffes and even Lane doesn’t look like Lane.
Tampa’s D has some key injuries, but they are playing stonewall run D. Losing Kancey was a big blow. Logan Hall being Questionable is another big blow. Vita Vea is a run-stuffing beast, but can he hold up for 60-65 plays in 100 degree heat?
It’ll be interesting to see what Patullo dials up- do you run up the middle to try and wear down a thin Dline? Or do you run pulls outside and let Jurgens play to his strength on the 2nd level against a swarming LB corps? If they get stubborn and try to run heavy 12 and 13 personnel with condensed formations, they will get destroyed.
What the Eagles should’ve learned from the 2nd Half last week is that passing the ball makes the D respect the run. Bowles has given Jalen fits- closing down running lanes for him and making him eat sacks with exotic blitzes and great lane integrity.
Philly has AJ, Devonta and Goedert all healthy this week. Their bread-and-butter seam routes won’t be easy against Tampa’s zone. They have to attack the middle of the field with mesh routes and crossers, and give Jalen easy hot reads that don’t take 5 seconds to develop. Jalen has got to be bursting at the seams to shake the monkey off his back and decisively beat Bowles. Fantasy-wise, Devonta has a big game. Jalen has about 200 passing with 1 TD, 35 rushing with 1 tush push. Saquon cracks 100 yds, just barely and gets a TD.
TBB on Offense:
Wirfs coming back and playing meaningful snaps could be huge. LT,LG and C all upgrade significantly. That Right side is still a mess. Whoever rolls out at RG plus Charlie Heck at RT are where the Eagles will attack. Bucky Irving hasn’t been great behind this Oline, but Philly’s rush D has been weak. Missing Evans and Godwin in his first week back, look for Tampa to lean on the run game. Irving gets 120 and a TD.
Baker is a winner. He will find a way to beat you. If you don’t get pressure on him, he will find an open guy and pick up a 1st down. And he has underrated legs. Losing Nolan Smith is a huge loss for Philly. He anchors the run better than anyone on the EDGE, and he is the best pass rusher. They’re gonna have to replace him with a healthy dose of Za’Darius Smith and Uche. They’re gonna have to rely on Okoronkwo and Ojulare coming in and doing something/anything. With the heat, on top of it, I fear the line won’t be able to generate enough pressure to keep Baker from matriculating downfield. Look for a lot more blitzes than usual from Campbell/Baun/Mukuba/DeJean.
Evans out is probably the biggest factor for Tampa- if he was playing, I’d flip my prediction, and call a TBB win. Egbuka is a great player early. I think Godwin will be limited and is gonna be more of a decoy than a major factor.
The young OC will make it easier on Philly’s secondary if they run out a static X, whether it’s Miller or Shepard. CB2 is gonna be a problem for Philly, and is the glaring “easy button” that Baker is going to be looking for all game. I could definitely see Shepard having a big fantasy game this week 6/90/1.
Nice 3-0 vs 3-0 battle. I'm expecting more defense and less scoring this week.
Jalen Hurts has REALLY struggled with Todd Bowles defenses, I think Eagles know this. and we get a HEAVY dose of Barkley this week.
I wonder with the #2 outside CB issues (injury/bad play) if Mitchell shadows Egbuka, and Philly dares them to beat them with someone else. Not expecting a big Irving game, but I wouldn't be shocked if Godwin came right in and made some plays.
I think the Bucs win, and I'd take the under.
Jalen Hurts has REALLY struggled with Todd Bowles defenses, I think Eagles know this. and we get a HEAVY dose of Barkley this week.
I wonder with the #2 outside CB issues (injury/bad play) if Mitchell shadows Egbuka, and Philly dares them to beat them with someone else. Not expecting a big Irving game, but I wouldn't be shocked if Godwin came right in and made some plays.
I think the Bucs win, and I'd take the under.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I didn’t really realize this, but Tampa‘s three and o record seems a little fraudulent after looking at who they’ve beaten.
They’ve beaten the Falcons, the Jets, and the Texans by a total of six points. That’s a cross-section of some of the worst teams in the NFL. And they barely beat any of them.
I am amending my prediction of a close game, and believe that the Eagles win by 10 points with the game never really in question.
They’ve beaten the Falcons, the Jets, and the Texans by a total of six points. That’s a cross-section of some of the worst teams in the NFL. And they barely beat any of them.
I am amending my prediction of a close game, and believe that the Eagles win by 10 points with the game never really in question.
Insein
Footballguy
I mean we beat the cowboys and chiefs by a total of 6 and needed a last second blocked FG to beat the Rams after being down 19. So September football is September football. Teams don't start rounding into shape until October hits anymore.
