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BigSteelThrill
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I love those 3-4-5 guys. Cant go wrong. I am guessing I would take Jackson and hope the Rams offense was a little improved. As of today, that is.Who do you like and want to root for? That might sway me towards Addai, considering how close they are.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't know, but I don't think taking the team you want to cheer for is the way to determine who you want to select at No. 3. I somewhat agree in that the guys being talked about here as 3, 4 or 5 is close but I'd rather try and figure out who has the better chance at having a more successful year and go with that than by going on who I like more. I can't gaurantee my method would gaurantee me a better outcome but I do know if I ended up with a successful team, it would be based on my true opinions on football rather than going with my heart.As to the question, I like Jackson. I actually like Jackson No. 2 overall in redraft leagues. I think Jackson started off slow last season but showed towards the end of last year what he's capable of, what we saw the year before last. Jackson can hit a home run in the running game or passing game and could end up the No. 1 back at the end of the year. It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
Jackson probably has the highest ceiling, Westy the highest floor, and Addai is good, but should go after the top 4 guys.
No wrong answer though.
No wrong answer though.
Personally I think Jackson is very overrated he's barely a top-5 RB IMO. I don't see him getting enough TD's to keep up with Addai and while he is a good receiving back, he's not even on the same level as Westbrook.
I think I would take Westbrook over Addai, but I believe Addai has a higher ceiling just because of the offense he's in, I think Philly could be a top-10 offense, but they could also finish in the lower half of league and maybe Kolb gets some action which would hurt Westbrook IMO.
Despite that though, I think Westbrook is the right pick.
I think I would take Westbrook over Addai, but I believe Addai has a higher ceiling just because of the offense he's in, I think Philly could be a top-10 offense, but they could also finish in the lower half of league and maybe Kolb gets some action which would hurt Westbrook IMO.
Despite that though, I think Westbrook is the right pick.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
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I don't know why you'd say that. Last year, Jackson didn't play in weeks 4 thru 7 but then finished the season strong. In the previous year, he caught 90 balls which is a career high for Westbrook and Jackson also went for 800 yards receiving, something Westbrook has NEVER achieved in his entire career.I can't say for sure who's better, but I can definately tell you he is on the same level as Westbrook in any category.
Incitefull analysis there.
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FUBAR
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I usually agree, but when I see players as exactly equal, I follow my "heart". Here, they are. All 3 have risks, all 3 are elite. Addai is probably the safe pick, but slightly lower ceiling. BW is probably 2nd safest, but he is supposed to lose carries. In the end, they're so close that logic doesn't show me the way, so I use gut/heart.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I agree, when you throw in the Fantasy Football is probably 50% luck anyway, why not pick the players you want to cheer for? It is a game for me. I like having fun playing the game. I like certain players and don't like others. If I have two players left in a bucket, I generally pick the one I like more. You are kidding yourself if you think you've got the players slotted correctly anyway. What you do know however is which players you like to root for. Just my :twocents:
Almas_4th_Child
Footballguy
The only thing to love about him his that offensive line.
foxco
Footballguy
While I don't think he's done at all and will be a top 10 guy this year, I do think Booker will get some touches that would normally go to Westy, dropping his overall value a bit.The only thing to love about him his that offensive line.
FUBAR
Footballguy
The only thing to love about him his that offensive line.
dirty_martini
Footballguy
If you see three guys about even - trade down.
NorrisB
Footballguy
Westbrook is coming off a season with a career high 368 touches, do you really wanna draft someone who already has a knee injuryand is coming off that type of heavy load? Add to the fact he's long of the tooth and injury prone and isnt even healthy now leaves me doubts. If a little voice isnt telling you to trade Westbrook in dynasty leagues (and avoiding him at his current price in redrafts) you need to check your pulse. My gut tells me to stay far away from Westbrook.
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NorrisB
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Even better analysis hereIncitefull analysis there.
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Tanner9919
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While I doubt he's finished, I tend to agree in what you're saying , that last season might have been hishigh watermark.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
It's a game but there are a lot of leagues that are for money, some of them pretty big stakes. Like many on here I'm in a few money leagues and personally I can't afford to choose players who I like. Sometimes it'll work out to where I get a player I like on my teams but usually not. l
gregjcross
Footballguy
LJ is not even in the running?
This is the perfect answer. Try as hard as you can, then just pick Westbrook.
FUBAR
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radballs
Footballguy
I'm starting to feel this way too in PPR leagues. A few months ago I only saw a top 3 and then a big fall. Now, I'll take a top 6 and still get someone I really like. Gore is most likely fallling past the first five and I will happily take him at 6th overall if that's my slot. I expect a pretty good year from him.
NoDigg41
Footballguy
Yes but you're assuming last year's stats recur this season!
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Steven Jackson Link
If it happens, the Rams’ running back out of Oregon State could command a new contract commensurate with that of the best at his position in the NFL.
But Jackson won’t be playing Muhammad Ali, as he did a year ago, when he told reporters his goal was to gain 2,500 yards from scrimmage. Jackson missed four games due to a groin injury and fell far short of his goal with a St. Louis team that finished an embarrassing 3-13.
“Last year, I went out and made a huge prediction,” says Jackson, who was in Scappoose on Monday to help coach at ex-OSU teammate and close pal Derek Anderson’s youth camp. “I didn’t figure in injuries and other things that can happen. My main goal next season is to stay healthy for 16 games, and we’ll see what happens.”
Jackson says he is “100 percent healthy” and ready for the start of St. Louis’ training camp on July 25. He will be in the final year of the five-year contract he signed after an All-America career at Oregon State.
“A contract year is big for anyone, but especially for the last year of a rookie deal,” says Jackson, who turns 25 on July 22. “I’m looking to have a great year and lengthen my career with St. Louis. Hopefully, I’ll retire as a Ram.”
After two seasons sharing duty with future Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk in the St. Louis backfield, Jackson had a breakout year in 2006, finishing fifth in the NFL with 1,528 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns. A Pro Bowl selection, he led running backs with 90 receptions – the sixth-best total in NFL history – and led the league with 2,334 yards from scrimmage, fifth-best all-time.
Injuries and, frankly, a lousy supporting cast limited Jackson to 1,002 yards on the ground and 38 receptions. Nearly the entire Ram offensive line missed games due to injury at some point during the season.
“Football is a game where you’re going to get bumps and bruises,” Jackson says. “It just so happened the whole team decided to take our injuries at once.
“Our first year under Coach (Scott) Linehan we were 8-8 and just missed the playoffs. To go 3-13 last year was rough. When you start out 0-8 like we did, it gets the morale of the team down. It’s hard to get out of the hole. We want to get a fast start to this season and hopefully win the NFC West. Seattle has been dominating the division. We plan to go out and contend for that spot this season.”
Jackson talks as if he intends to be a contender for comeback player of the year honors. If so, he might reap the highest salary of any NFL running back – and he says he hopes it is with St. Louis.
“The groundwork I’ve put together over four years, I think I deserve it,” he says. “But it all comes down to performance, and then negotiations. I think it will happen. The Rams have been good to me. I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t be there (next year).”
In a recent interview with yahoo.com’s Michael Silver, Jackson ripped St. Louis season ticket-holders who sold tickets to opposing fans for home games against Green Bay and Pittsburgh last December.
“Half the people in the stadium were rooting against us,” Jackson told Silver. “It was like playing road games. We ran out of the tunnel and got booed. It was ridiculous. I was livid.”
Jackson says now he doesn’t want to carry on a feud with his team’s supporters.
“My (public-relations representative) doesn’t want me to talk about it anymore,” he says, with a grin. “I wasn’t trying to come down on the fans. I just want to get their support.
“I know they’ll support a winner. They back the Cardinals. They want the same kind of results from us, and that’s what they deserve. But you know, we’re professional athletes; we have feelings, too. We need their support.”
Anderson and Jackson were members of Oregon State’s 2001 recruiting class. When Anderson asked for Jackson’s presence at his camp, he was glad to help.
“Derek’s my boy,” Jackson says. “We lived in the dorms together, we always hung together since Day One. He’s one of the reasons why I decided to come to Oregon State. We keep in touch each week during the season.”
Jackson was in Portland this winter as a presenter at the Oregon Sports Awards, “but I don’t get to come back to Oregon that much,” he says. “I hope to see a lot of people this week – not just guys I played with, but went to school with. I might try to sneak down to Corvallis. I haven’t been back on campus for awhile, and I want to see the improvements to the stadium and the facilities. I hear it’s really something.”
If it happens, the Rams’ running back out of Oregon State could command a new contract commensurate with that of the best at his position in the NFL.
But Jackson won’t be playing Muhammad Ali, as he did a year ago, when he told reporters his goal was to gain 2,500 yards from scrimmage. Jackson missed four games due to a groin injury and fell far short of his goal with a St. Louis team that finished an embarrassing 3-13.
“Last year, I went out and made a huge prediction,” says Jackson, who was in Scappoose on Monday to help coach at ex-OSU teammate and close pal Derek Anderson’s youth camp. “I didn’t figure in injuries and other things that can happen. My main goal next season is to stay healthy for 16 games, and we’ll see what happens.”
Jackson says he is “100 percent healthy” and ready for the start of St. Louis’ training camp on July 25. He will be in the final year of the five-year contract he signed after an All-America career at Oregon State.
“A contract year is big for anyone, but especially for the last year of a rookie deal,” says Jackson, who turns 25 on July 22. “I’m looking to have a great year and lengthen my career with St. Louis. Hopefully, I’ll retire as a Ram.”
After two seasons sharing duty with future Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk in the St. Louis backfield, Jackson had a breakout year in 2006, finishing fifth in the NFL with 1,528 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns. A Pro Bowl selection, he led running backs with 90 receptions – the sixth-best total in NFL history – and led the league with 2,334 yards from scrimmage, fifth-best all-time.
Injuries and, frankly, a lousy supporting cast limited Jackson to 1,002 yards on the ground and 38 receptions. Nearly the entire Ram offensive line missed games due to injury at some point during the season.
“Football is a game where you’re going to get bumps and bruises,” Jackson says. “It just so happened the whole team decided to take our injuries at once.
“Our first year under Coach (Scott) Linehan we were 8-8 and just missed the playoffs. To go 3-13 last year was rough. When you start out 0-8 like we did, it gets the morale of the team down. It’s hard to get out of the hole. We want to get a fast start to this season and hopefully win the NFC West. Seattle has been dominating the division. We plan to go out and contend for that spot this season.”
Jackson talks as if he intends to be a contender for comeback player of the year honors. If so, he might reap the highest salary of any NFL running back – and he says he hopes it is with St. Louis.
“The groundwork I’ve put together over four years, I think I deserve it,” he says. “But it all comes down to performance, and then negotiations. I think it will happen. The Rams have been good to me. I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t be there (next year).”
In a recent interview with yahoo.com’s Michael Silver, Jackson ripped St. Louis season ticket-holders who sold tickets to opposing fans for home games against Green Bay and Pittsburgh last December.
“Half the people in the stadium were rooting against us,” Jackson told Silver. “It was like playing road games. We ran out of the tunnel and got booed. It was ridiculous. I was livid.”
Jackson says now he doesn’t want to carry on a feud with his team’s supporters.
“My (public-relations representative) doesn’t want me to talk about it anymore,” he says, with a grin. “I wasn’t trying to come down on the fans. I just want to get their support.
“I know they’ll support a winner. They back the Cardinals. They want the same kind of results from us, and that’s what they deserve. But you know, we’re professional athletes; we have feelings, too. We need their support.”
Anderson and Jackson were members of Oregon State’s 2001 recruiting class. When Anderson asked for Jackson’s presence at his camp, he was glad to help.
“Derek’s my boy,” Jackson says. “We lived in the dorms together, we always hung together since Day One. He’s one of the reasons why I decided to come to Oregon State. We keep in touch each week during the season.”
Jackson was in Portland this winter as a presenter at the Oregon Sports Awards, “but I don’t get to come back to Oregon that much,” he says. “I hope to see a lot of people this week – not just guys I played with, but went to school with. I might try to sneak down to Corvallis. I haven’t been back on campus for awhile, and I want to see the improvements to the stadium and the facilities. I hear it’s really something.”
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
In the above article, Steven Jackson makes mention that it is a contract year for him, which is a huge one for him since he's coming off his rookie contract.
As stated earlier in this thread, I'm looking for a huge effort from Steven Jackson this season. I currently have him slated as my No. 2 overall and if Lt2 is to get knocked off as the No. 1 guy, this would be the guy I'd bet on to do it.
As stated earlier in this thread, I'm looking for a huge effort from Steven Jackson this season. I currently have him slated as my No. 2 overall and if Lt2 is to get knocked off as the No. 1 guy, this would be the guy I'd bet on to do it.
