GordonGekko
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
IIRC, there was talk of him being sick and throwing up several times during the game.
PantherPower
Footballguy
His nickname isn't Donovan McChoke for nothing...
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I don't recall the Eagles running no huddle much that season.
That drive was probably the most important drive of the game. If they don't score the game's over. I think it was smart to huddle up, make sure everyone was on the right page, and do your best to determine what the defense is doing, rather than hurridly try to get to the line and run as many plays as you could as quick as you could.
What really hurt was after scoring the TD, doing the on-side kick with 2 TO left and almost 2 minutes left.
redman
Footballguy
McNabb kept audibling to "Earl", but nobody knew what it meant and it wasted time.
My serious response is that I don't think the Eagles were well drilled in the 2 min offense because they didn't have to use it much during the season as they were dominating their opponents with TO in the passing game and that defense. They were fish out of water trying to run it in the Super Bowl.
My serious response is that I don't think the Eagles were well drilled in the 2 min offense because they didn't have to use it much during the season as they were dominating their opponents with TO in the passing game and that defense. They were fish out of water trying to run it in the Super Bowl.
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
It's because of the color of his skin.
SharkBait
Footballguy
It's a little thing called "the fix". Nobody likes to talk about it so you won't hear an answer.
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dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Apparently no one knows. I just read Education of a Coach and apparently Belichick was so puzzled by the lack of urgency the Eagles were showing that he was repeatedly asking Romeo Crennel the score and if he was sure they were winning. Pretty damning indictment of Reid if I say so.
I realize the Birds have had their problems with clock management in the Reid era at the end of halves and games and so forth, but this was incomprehensible. There's no way Reid wasn't trying to hurry things up. The only thing I can beleive is that he had a concussion and was just that out of it.
LMF
Footballguy
Road Warriors
Footballguy
I think the cheating Patriots spiked his chunky soup pregame, which cause him to throw up in the huddle
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
They said the same thing about Peyton Manning.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Take McNabb's career playoff stats and extrapolate them to a 16-game season and here's what you get:60% completion percentage, 3500 passing yards, 24 TDs, 16 INTs; 480 rush yards, 4 rush TDs.All those numbers are better than McNabb's career regular season stats (with the exception of the INT rate, which is slightly worse).He also has a 7-5 playoff record.How many QBs have better career playoff numbers?
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
My understanding was that he was mildly concussed from a hit he took from Seymour in the first quarter.
TO has a different theory (which I don't ascribe to).
TO has a different theory (which I don't ascribe to).
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Quality posting here.....Klecko HOF
Footballguy
I honestly don't know. I was screaming at the top of my lungs, wondering WTF was wrong with the offense and why weren't they playing with more urgency.
I always thought it had something to do with a hit McNabb took, but I couldn't tell you for certain. It's just a feeling I've always held.
It will always go down as one of the most mind boggling things I've ever watched in sports, period.
I always thought it had something to do with a hit McNabb took, but I couldn't tell you for certain. It's just a feeling I've always held.
It will always go down as one of the most mind boggling things I've ever watched in sports, period.
redman
Footballguy
I read that too and it was the first thing I thought of. Bizarre, and funny that it was unnerving Belichick.
dotman
Footballguy
"McNabb finished the game with 30 completions for 357 yards, the third highest total for both categories in Super Bowl history, and 3 touchdowns."That's a pretty nice game for being out of it the whole time don't you think? The Pat's D wasn't too bad either...
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Great book. Really shows why Belichick is in a class all his own. It's also why I think the whole Spygate thing is ridiculous. This guy is way ahead of his time.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Stupid facts always getting the way of opinions.
Linton Trust
Footballguy
here's another question:
McNabb is going to be announced as the all-time Eagles QB at half time this weekend (for the eagles 75th anniversary)... will he be booed or cheered?
McNabb is going to be announced as the all-time Eagles QB at half time this weekend (for the eagles 75th anniversary)... will he be booed or cheered?
dotman
Footballguy
Let's see how the first half goes
I'm not going, but if I were, I'd cheer loudly 
5 is the man
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TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Booed for 2 reasons:1. why have the ceremony NOW? Why not wait until the end of the season or at least until McNabb has a couple good games?2. Ron Jaworski and Randall Cunningham
Saints-Man
Footballguy
He is better than both of those combined. I like both, but neither have had the career McNabb has.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He was just keeping it real.patriarchz
Footballguy
Poor Philly fans... it just doesn't get any better for you guys does it?
McNabb apparently had a mild concussion, was nauseated and vomiting during the game, and still managed monster numbers. And Philly fans boo him. Hilarious.
Philly should have an eternal curse until they change their crappy behavior.
McNabb apparently had a mild concussion, was nauseated and vomiting during the game, and still managed monster numbers. And Philly fans boo him. Hilarious.
Philly should have an eternal curse until they change their crappy behavior.
smcindoe
Footballguy
Let me ask you this: Do you see any white quarterbacks being criticized for SuperBowl XXXIX?
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
redman
Footballguy
Exactly.
SharkBait
Footballguy
Embrace the fix. That way when you see something that ludicrous you just laugh your ### off. I did.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Apparently you've never been to Philadelphia.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
One final note: As part of their 75th anniversary celebration, the Eagles this season asked the fans to select their all-time team. More than 600,000 votes poured into the team’s web site and McNabb was the landslide winner at quarterback. He received more than 65 percent of the vote, blowing away the field which included Jaworski, Jurgensen, Randall Cunningham and the two quarterbacks who won the only world championship in franchise history, Tommy Thompson (1948-49) and Norm Van Brocklin (1960).Yep they're really turning on him alright.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Sure you can.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
He was sick which noone knew when they were watching it. They went 13 plays for 79 yards in 3.52. so it wasn't like it was a 10 minute drive to end the game. I thought that they were just trying to take a bit of time to make sure they got the points.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I used to really like McNabb, now I am beginning to think he is a loser. When I look at all the Eagles losses in title games, the Owens comes in and they make it to the SuperBowl, McNabb did not seem to have the winners edge late in that game.
Now when things are going south he is claiming racism. Maybe TO got a bad rap in Philly.
Now when things are going south he is claiming racism. Maybe TO got a bad rap in Philly.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
It was rumored that there were more than a few players in the locker room who thought that TO was in the right and DMac was being a punk. I can kind of understand McNabb's agenda in regards to Philly and racism. I don't think that the overwhelming majority of the fans dislike McNabb for his race. Saying McNabb sucks isn't racism. Saying that as a black man, McNabb doesn't have the mental tools to be a QB is. ( Ironically a couple of my friends feel this way....so maybe my small sample, anectodal experiences are accurate for Philly at large). Philly fans as my experiences go, are of both the "what have you done for me lately" and "the grass is always greener" mentality and they've just so happened to have had a pretty long lineage of black QB's (Cunningham-Peete-McNabb) who have had white backups. I remember hearing fans up in Westchester training camp and on 610 saying that they would have like to see Brad Goebel ( a training camp bum) in there instead of Cunningham. Peete had to deal with the Bobby Hoying fanatics and McNabb has had to compete with Feeley and Garcia. With these backups having success on smaller scales I think all of that churns into a "perfect storm" of mis-understanding.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
You know, I've never felt that was addressed in a satisfactory fashion, but I would really like to see the drive again, I got this on You Tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLg0KyxQbYM
Its somewhat of an explanation, but my contention was, the lack of heat he took for this is an indication of a less-racist climate than he describes. Imagine if that had been Peyton frittering away his opportunity like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLg0KyxQbYM
Its somewhat of an explanation, but my contention was, the lack of heat he took for this is an indication of a less-racist climate than he describes. Imagine if that had been Peyton frittering away his opportunity like that.
Wow, so McNabb is blaming TO because TO wanted to stay in the game and that it messed up their formations.Unreal, McNabb needs to invest in a muzzle. Everything that comes out of his mouth is blaming other people for things.
As much as I hate to prop up TO I have to say. TO came back on a bum ankle to play in that game, maybe even risking his career because he wanted to win so bad. McNabb should have played his guts out that last few minutes. He would have a whole off season and a SB trophy to make him feel better. Couln't believe what I was seeing in that game. On film it just looked like a total mental melt down from McNabb. Maybe if he had his brains rattled that would explain it but I have never heard that confirmed.moderated said:
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
anyone have a link to the last 2 minutes of the game as broadcasted? all i find is the "recap" version which is all over the place.
Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
Funny you should say that. Every time something completely inexplicable happens in a sporting event, my buddy and I look at each other and say "the book." Nuff said.
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