49ers want to bring in a veteran QB (1 Viewer)

[baconisgood]

GET YOUR ROLL ON!!!!

need to get Randy out of retirement first

Holy crap please. Just please let this happen. Please? There is no way this wouldn't be entertaining.

 

[Joe Summer]

49ers sign Dante Culpepper What a joke this organization has become

How does that make them a joke? They signed a backup quarterback to a one-year contract. Do you think the Steelers are a joke for signing Charlie Batch?

 

[drummer]

Again, I posted the 49ers were and are complacent at QB. The list shows it. Your 3rd string QB last season replaced your 2nd string QB because you were never gonna start that 2nd string QB in the first place.

I will ask you yet again what you would have had them do? You've complained about their moves but when I've pressed you for alternative suggestions you've managed to dodge the question repeatedly. What move should they have made this year at quarterback? You've said they should have acquired a better stopgap. Please share with us what that move would have been.You've also ignored explaining how sucking for Luck is an short sighted move. Instead it seems you're bent on tossing out insults and other false accusations.

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO. 2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere. 3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

 

[shadyridr]

49ers sign Dante Culpepper What a joke this organization has become

How does that make them a joke? They signed a backup quarterback to a one-year contract. Do you think the Steelers are a joke for signing Charlie Batch?

a backup qb who hasnt played in the nfl in 3yrs and probably weighs 300lbs with no mini camp, training camp, etc

 

[One]

49ers sign Dante Culpepper What a joke this organization has become

Downgrade all Sacramento Mountain Lions?

 

[baconisgood]

49ers sign Dante Culpepper What a joke this organization has become

How does that make them a joke? They signed a backup quarterback to a one-year contract. Do you think the Steelers are a joke for signing Charlie Batch?

a backup qb who hasnt played in the nfl in 3yrs and probably weighs 300lbs with no mini camp, training camp, etc

I think you mean 1 year as he played in 2009 and he played Arena league football last year.

 

[footballnerd]

Culpepper threw 10 touchdowns and 12 interceptions in the UFL last year

 

[baconisgood]

Culpepper threw 10 touchdowns and 12 interceptions in the UFL last year

they are going to pay him 800 grand to take a beating in case alex smith gets injured.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO.

2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere.

3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

I have asked you several times to name who that vet would be. Who was available that you wanted them to sign? Hasslebeck? It's great to say they should have signed someone. It gets a lot harder when you actually look at who was available. Who is this "Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO" that you would have them sign? You keep saying they should have brought someone in. When I asked you for specifics you mentioned Josh Johnson as an option others wanted to bring in. How about you mention a name - any name - of someone you would bring in. It seems you are having an incredibly difficult time answering this simple question so I'll make it easy for you. Here's a list of all available qb's this offseason.Derek Anderson? Delhomme? Pennington? Matt Moore? Trent Edwards? Kerry Collins? I wanted the team to sign Vince Young. But I trust Harbaugh. If he's secretly tanking to get Luck or if he honestly believes that the options available were crap, I'm okay with his decision.

You said it was short sighted to have Alex Smith as a stopgap qb for this year. What do you think he'd be a stopgap for? You think this team isn't in the running for Luck?

ETA - Harbaugh DID back off hyping Alex Smith when he took over. He made it very clear they were going to explore other options and turn over every stone in looking for a qb. They eventually determined they were going to bring Smith back. What do you want the guy to say at that point? "He totally sucks but our options are limited. Sucks to be a fan this year."?

Here's what Harbaugh said about Smith “So excited, yeah, I’m going to say it, I’ve been studying Alex Smith and watching him and I believe that Alex Smith can be a winning quarterback in the National Football League. I’m excited to work with him, get to know him.”

 

[drummer]

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO.

2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere.

3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

I have asked you several times to name who that vet would be. Who was available that you wanted them to sign? Hasslebeck? It's great to say they should have signed someone. It gets a lot harder when you actually look at who was available. Who is this "Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO" that you would have them sign? You keep saying they should have brought someone in. When I asked you for specifics you mentioned Josh Johnson as an option others wanted to bring in. How about you mention a name - any name - of someone you would bring in. It seems you are having an incredibly difficult time answering this simple question so I'll make it easy for you. Here's a list of all available qb's this offseason.Derek Anderson? Delhomme? Pennington? Matt Moore? Trent Edwards? Kerry Collins? I wanted the team to sign Vince Young. But I trust Harbaugh. If he's secretly tanking to get Luck or if he honestly believes that the options available were crap, I'm okay with his decision.

You said it was short sighted to have Alex Smith as a stopgap qb for this year. What do you think he'd be a stopgap for? You think this team isn't in the running for Luck?

Ok, and this goes back to my Jed comment: As soon as Harbaugh signed his contract, he committed himself to Smith. Now, even Bay Area media is speculating why he did that, when there were options out there. What do they do for a Vet presence? Sign Culpepper instead of going for McNabb, Hass, making a trade, etc. The 49ers used the lockout as an excuse while other teams made moves @ QB. The QB situation has become so absurd that I don't put it all on Harbaugh, because the pattern with Smith was well established before him. The absurdity lies within the Organization.

If they had gone after a Vet with a WCO background, via trade or a larger, longer contract, then they whole playbook issue wouldn't be that much of a problem. Even if they made a trade for a 2nd string guy in Matt Flynn to compete with Smith, it still is a whole lot better than Kaep and Culpepper. Flynn is a FA next season, and possible trade bait, yet at a higher price now.

They didn't have to win their last game last season. It cost them draft position. On the other hand, they had to win it to prove two things:

That Singletary was the problem, and that Smith could play well under another coach. Despite it was against AZ who mailed it in, and that win proved nothing and was costly.

So tanking for Luck, with a new Stadium still in doubt, doesn't seem like something the 49ers would do, especially since they brought in a coach to turn the Franchise and it's QB around.

I'm gonna say this again:

Other teams in the NFL made moves at the QB position.

What's the 49ers excuse for not doing so?

 

[Sabertooth]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Um, hate to break this to you, but Vincent Jackson played out his contract. So no, he didn't have that option at all. His contract did expire so you are completely wrong here. But don't let facts get in your way.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO.

2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere.

3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

I have asked you several times to name who that vet would be. Who was available that you wanted them to sign? Hasslebeck? It's great to say they should have signed someone. It gets a lot harder when you actually look at who was available. Who is this "Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO" that you would have them sign? You keep saying they should have brought someone in. When I asked you for specifics you mentioned Josh Johnson as an option others wanted to bring in. How about you mention a name - any name - of someone you would bring in. It seems you are having an incredibly difficult time answering this simple question so I'll make it easy for you. Here's a list of all available qb's this offseason.Derek Anderson? Delhomme? Pennington? Matt Moore? Trent Edwards? Kerry Collins? I wanted the team to sign Vince Young. But I trust Harbaugh. If he's secretly tanking to get Luck or if he honestly believes that the options available were crap, I'm okay with his decision.

You said it was short sighted to have Alex Smith as a stopgap qb for this year. What do you think he'd be a stopgap for? You think this team isn't in the running for Luck?

Ok, and this goes back to my Jed comment: As soon as Harbaugh signed his contract, he committed himself to Smith. Now, even Bay Area media is speculating why he did that, when there were options out there. What do they do for a Vet presence? Sign Culpepper instead of going for McNabb, Hass, making a trade, etc. The 49ers used the lockout as an excuse while other teams made moves @ QB. The QB situation has become so absurd that I don't put it all on Harbaugh, because the pattern with Smith was well established before him. The absurdity lies within the Organization.

If they had gone after a Vet with a WCO background, via trade or a larger, longer contract, then they whole playbook issue wouldn't be that much of a problem. Even if they made a trade for a 2nd string guy in Matt Flynn to compete with Smith, it still is a whole lot better than Kaep and Culpepper. Flynn is a FA next season, and possible trade bait, yet at a higher price now.

They didn't have to win their last game last season. It cost them draft position. On the other hand, they had to win it to prove two things:

That Singletary was the problem, and that Smith could play well under another coach. Despite it was against AZ who mailed it in, and that win proved nothing and was costly.

So tanking for Luck, with a new Stadium still in doubt, doesn't seem like something the 49ers would do, especially since they brought in a coach to turn the Franchise and it's QB around.

I'm gonna say this again:

Other teams in the NFL made moves at the QB position.

What's the 49ers excuse for not doing so?

You're being quite evasive. We'll carry on despite your refusal to name any player YOU would have traded for were you in their shoes. It's obvious you're simply one of those people who locks onto the negatives from the past and won't let it go no matter what. I view drafting a quarterback in the second round as making a move.

Harbaugh said he was going to explore all the options when he came aboard. It's clear that whatever world you come from that is throwing support immediately behind the guy. I should point out the GM - prior to Harbaugh coming aboard said the qb of the future is NOT presently on the roster.

It's clear you're more interested in dodging questions and ranting at dumb moves from years past instead of focusing on decisions they made for this season. I wish you luck in whatever tangents you jump onto next. Keep on fighting the good fight.

 

[drummer]

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO.

2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere.

3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

I have asked you several times to name who that vet would be. Who was available that you wanted them to sign? Hasslebeck? It's great to say they should have signed someone. It gets a lot harder when you actually look at who was available. Who is this "Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO" that you would have them sign? You keep saying they should have brought someone in. When I asked you for specifics you mentioned Josh Johnson as an option others wanted to bring in. How about you mention a name - any name - of someone you would bring in. It seems you are having an incredibly difficult time answering this simple question so I'll make it easy for you. Here's a list of all available qb's this offseason.Derek Anderson? Delhomme? Pennington? Matt Moore? Trent Edwards? Kerry Collins? I wanted the team to sign Vince Young. But I trust Harbaugh. If he's secretly tanking to get Luck or if he honestly believes that the options available were crap, I'm okay with his decision.

You said it was short sighted to have Alex Smith as a stopgap qb for this year. What do you think he'd be a stopgap for? You think this team isn't in the running for Luck?

Ok, and this goes back to my Jed comment: As soon as Harbaugh signed his contract, he committed himself to Smith. Now, even Bay Area media is speculating why he did that, when there were options out there. What do they do for a Vet presence? Sign Culpepper instead of going for McNabb, Hass, making a trade, etc. The 49ers used the lockout as an excuse while other teams made moves @ QB. The QB situation has become so absurd that I don't put it all on Harbaugh, because the pattern with Smith was well established before him. The absurdity lies within the Organization.

If they had gone after a Vet with a WCO background, via trade or a larger, longer contract, then they whole playbook issue wouldn't be that much of a problem. Even if they made a trade for a 2nd string guy in Matt Flynn to compete with Smith, it still is a whole lot better than Kaep and Culpepper. Flynn is a FA next season, and possible trade bait, yet at a higher price now.

They didn't have to win their last game last season. It cost them draft position. On the other hand, they had to win it to prove two things:

That Singletary was the problem, and that Smith could play well under another coach. Despite it was against AZ who mailed it in, and that win proved nothing and was costly.

So tanking for Luck, with a new Stadium still in doubt, doesn't seem like something the 49ers would do, especially since they brought in a coach to turn the Franchise and it's QB around.

I'm gonna say this again:

Other teams in the NFL made moves at the QB position.

What's the 49ers excuse for not doing so?

You're being quite evasive. We'll carry on despite your refusal to name any player YOU would have traded for were you in their shoes. It's obvious you're simply one of those people who locks onto the negatives from the past and won't let it go no matter what. I view drafting a quarterback in the second round as making a move.

Harbaugh said he was going to explore all the options when he came aboard. It's clear that whatever world you come from that is throwing support immediately behind the guy. I should point out the GM - prior to Harbaugh coming aboard said the qb of the future is NOT presently on the roster.

It's clear you're more interested in dodging questions and ranting at dumb moves from years past instead of focusing on decisions they made for this season. I wish you luck in whatever tangents you jump onto next. Keep on fighting the good fight.

I've already put names out there. It's not my fault that you think the 49ers had their hands tied when they didn't. Also, a 2nd round pick in Kaep isn't a future lock at the position, and Kaep looks to be more of a prospect than able to start this season or the next. Drafting Kaep wasn't that much a risk in the second round this past draft because the 49ers have a lot of picks next draft. If they had drafted Locker instead of Aldon Smith in the 1st, that would have been a larger risk for them. I'll say it one more time:

The 49ers could have gone after a Vet QB that had experience in the WCO, with Hass and McNabb as 2 options that other Franchises pulled the trigger on.

I mean, they just signed Culpepper. I don't think you understand what going on with the team you root for.

I don't think another Franchise would have signed Smith for a one year deal for 5 Mil either, and no way would he would have had a multi year deal for 10 Mil.

 

[mdlane]

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO.

2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere.

3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

I have asked you several times to name who that vet would be. Who was available that you wanted them to sign? Hasslebeck? It's great to say they should have signed someone. It gets a lot harder when you actually look at who was available. Who is this "Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO" that you would have them sign? You keep saying they should have brought someone in. When I asked you for specifics you mentioned Josh Johnson as an option others wanted to bring in. How about you mention a name - any name - of someone you would bring in. It seems you are having an incredibly difficult time answering this simple question so I'll make it easy for you. Here's a list of all available qb's this offseason.Derek Anderson? Delhomme? Pennington? Matt Moore? Trent Edwards? Kerry Collins? I wanted the team to sign Vince Young. But I trust Harbaugh. If he's secretly tanking to get Luck or if he honestly believes that the options available were crap, I'm okay with his decision.

You said it was short sighted to have Alex Smith as a stopgap qb for this year. What do you think he'd be a stopgap for? You think this team isn't in the running for Luck?

Ok, and this goes back to my Jed comment: As soon as Harbaugh signed his contract, he committed himself to Smith. Now, even Bay Area media is speculating why he did that, when there were options out there. What do they do for a Vet presence? Sign Culpepper instead of going for McNabb, Hass, making a trade, etc. The 49ers used the lockout as an excuse while other teams made moves @ QB. The QB situation has become so absurd that I don't put it all on Harbaugh, because the pattern with Smith was well established before him. The absurdity lies within the Organization.

If they had gone after a Vet with a WCO background, via trade or a larger, longer contract, then they whole playbook issue wouldn't be that much of a problem. Even if they made a trade for a 2nd string guy in Matt Flynn to compete with Smith, it still is a whole lot better than Kaep and Culpepper. Flynn is a FA next season, and possible trade bait, yet at a higher price now.

They didn't have to win their last game last season. It cost them draft position. On the other hand, they had to win it to prove two things:

That Singletary was the problem, and that Smith could play well under another coach. Despite it was against AZ who mailed it in, and that win proved nothing and was costly.

So tanking for Luck, with a new Stadium still in doubt, doesn't seem like something the 49ers would do, especially since they brought in a coach to turn the Franchise and it's QB around.

I'm gonna say this again:

Other teams in the NFL made moves at the QB position.

What's the 49ers excuse for not doing so?

They didn't like the cost/reward for those options. McNabb cost draft picks and $5 million. Hass cost 3 years and $21 million. Instead they wanted a one-year stopgap to take them through an OTA-less season that wasn't going to impact 2012 in any way. Alex Smith is cheaper (in terms of picks and/or money) than both those guys, and though I'd like to see McNabb in a Niner uniform and he only cost a 6th round pick more than Smith, I'm not convinced he'd be any more effective than Smith at this point in his career and McNabb doesn't exactly seem to be open to coaching from a guy like Harbaugh. I don't necessarily agree with it, and I'm not exactly excited that Alex Smith and Culpepper are in SF, but I understand it.

 

[shadyridr]

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO.

2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere.

3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

I have asked you several times to name who that vet would be. Who was available that you wanted them to sign? Hasslebeck? It's great to say they should have signed someone. It gets a lot harder when you actually look at who was available. Who is this "Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO" that you would have them sign? You keep saying they should have brought someone in. When I asked you for specifics you mentioned Josh Johnson as an option others wanted to bring in. How about you mention a name - any name - of someone you would bring in. It seems you are having an incredibly difficult time answering this simple question so I'll make it easy for you. Here's a list of all available qb's this offseason.Derek Anderson? Delhomme? Pennington? Matt Moore? Trent Edwards? Kerry Collins? I wanted the team to sign Vince Young. But I trust Harbaugh. If he's secretly tanking to get Luck or if he honestly believes that the options available were crap, I'm okay with his decision.

You said it was short sighted to have Alex Smith as a stopgap qb for this year. What do you think he'd be a stopgap for? You think this team isn't in the running for Luck?

ETA - Harbaugh DID back off hyping Alex Smith when he took over. He made it very clear they were going to explore other options and turn over every stone in looking for a qb. They eventually determined they were going to bring Smith back. What do you want the guy to say at that point? "He totally sucks but our options are limited. Sucks to be a fan this year."?

Here's what Harbaugh said about Smith “So excited, yeah, I’m going to say it, I’ve been studying Alex Smith and watching him and I believe that Alex Smith can be a winning quarterback in the National Football League. I’m excited to work with him, get to know him.”

Im a 49er fan. I wouldve traded the farm for Kolb. Yeah theres always the risk he may suck but at least he gives us hope. Smith has had 7 yrs to prove himself and is not the answer for any tea,

 

[drummer]

1. First thing I would have done was back off all the hyping of Smith as soon as you signed the contract (Harbaugh), and found a Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO.

2. Nowhere did I say "Suck 4 Luck", anywhere.

3. Insert another thing I didn't post that you make up.

I have asked you several times to name who that vet would be. Who was available that you wanted them to sign? Hasslebeck? It's great to say they should have signed someone. It gets a lot harder when you actually look at who was available. Who is this "Vet QB or someone that was familiar with the WCO" that you would have them sign? You keep saying they should have brought someone in. When I asked you for specifics you mentioned Josh Johnson as an option others wanted to bring in. How about you mention a name - any name - of someone you would bring in. It seems you are having an incredibly difficult time answering this simple question so I'll make it easy for you. Here's a list of all available qb's this offseason.Derek Anderson? Delhomme? Pennington? Matt Moore? Trent Edwards? Kerry Collins? I wanted the team to sign Vince Young. But I trust Harbaugh. If he's secretly tanking to get Luck or if he honestly believes that the options available were crap, I'm okay with his decision.

You said it was short sighted to have Alex Smith as a stopgap qb for this year. What do you think he'd be a stopgap for? You think this team isn't in the running for Luck?

Ok, and this goes back to my Jed comment: As soon as Harbaugh signed his contract, he committed himself to Smith. Now, even Bay Area media is speculating why he did that, when there were options out there. What do they do for a Vet presence? Sign Culpepper instead of going for McNabb, Hass, making a trade, etc. The 49ers used the lockout as an excuse while other teams made moves @ QB. The QB situation has become so absurd that I don't put it all on Harbaugh, because the pattern with Smith was well established before him. The absurdity lies within the Organization.

If they had gone after a Vet with a WCO background, via trade or a larger, longer contract, then they whole playbook issue wouldn't be that much of a problem. Even if they made a trade for a 2nd string guy in Matt Flynn to compete with Smith, it still is a whole lot better than Kaep and Culpepper. Flynn is a FA next season, and possible trade bait, yet at a higher price now.

They didn't have to win their last game last season. It cost them draft position. On the other hand, they had to win it to prove two things:

That Singletary was the problem, and that Smith could play well under another coach. Despite it was against AZ who mailed it in, and that win proved nothing and was costly.

So tanking for Luck, with a new Stadium still in doubt, doesn't seem like something the 49ers would do, especially since they brought in a coach to turn the Franchise and it's QB around.

I'm gonna say this again:

Other teams in the NFL made moves at the QB position.

What's the 49ers excuse for not doing so?

They didn't like the cost/reward for those options. McNabb cost draft picks and $5 million. Hass cost 3 years and $21 million. Instead they wanted a one-year stopgap to take them through an OTA-less season that wasn't going to impact 2012 in any way. Alex Smith is cheaper (in terms of picks and/or money) than both those guys, and though I'd like to see McNabb in a Niner uniform and he only cost a 6th round pick more than Smith, I'm not convinced he'd be any more effective than Smith at this point in his career and McNabb doesn't exactly seem to be open to coaching from a guy like Harbaugh. I don't necessarily agree with it, and I'm not exactly excited that Alex Smith and Culpepper are in SF, but I understand it.

The picks that WAS got were low round picks. The 49ers could have afforded McNabb with no problem. They could have gone after Hass as well, and Marathe is good with structuring contracts that keep the team cap friendly and with good value. The 49ers didn't have their hands tied. They handcuffed themselves with Smith.

 

[Sweetness_34]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

The CBA does not say that. And the CBA is also A CONTRACT WILLINGLY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES. Get it? Players get what they SIGNED FOR WILLINGLY. If they do not like it, they can go get a real job in the real world.

 

[baconisgood]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

The CBA does not say that. And the CBA is also A CONTRACT WILLINGLY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES. Get it? Players get what they SIGNED FOR WILLINGLY. If they do not like it, they can go get a real job in the real world.

Lol. Just like all of this years rookies that didn't get represented in negotiations. They "signed" the CBA.

 

[Sweetness_34]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Um, hate to break this to you, but Vincent Jackson played out his contract. So no, he didn't have that option at all. His contract did expire so you are completely wrong here. But don't let facts get in your way.

But the team has the right to tack the franchise tag; again this CBA thingy that you know BOTH PLAYERS AND NFL SIGN WILLINGLY. Contracts once signed = you live with it or you can take a hike. I wish more teams would take this attitude.

 

[Sweetness_34]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

The CBA does not say that. And the CBA is also A CONTRACT WILLINGLY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES. Get it? Players get what they SIGNED FOR WILLINGLY. If they do not like it, they can go get a real job in the real world.

Lol. Just like all of this years rookies that didn't get represented in negotiations. They "signed" the CBA.

Tough luck. They can always choose a different profession. These are the rules of the NFL.

 

[baconisgood]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

Lol. How quick you change your tune. " they negotiated a contract and signed it! They should play it out"Example of how that is BS

"Well TS for those guys"

Your a hypocrite.

The CBA does not say that. And the CBA is also A CONTRACT WILLINGLY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES. Get it? Players get what they SIGNED FOR WILLINGLY. If they do not like it, they can go get a real job in the real world.

Lol. Just like all of this years rookies that didn't get represented in negotiations. They "signed" the CBA.

Tough luck. They can always choose a different profession. These are the rules of the NFL.

 

[thecatch]

49ers sign Dante Culpepper What a joke this organization has become

The Niners haven't actually signed him (at least yet)

 

[Short Corner]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

The CBA does not say that. And the CBA is also A CONTRACT WILLINGLY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES. Get it? Players get what they SIGNED FOR WILLINGLY. If they do not like it, they can go get a real job in the real world.

Lol. Just like all of this years rookies that didn't get represented in negotiations. They "signed" the CBA.

Tough luck. They can always choose a different profession. These are the rules of the NFL.

And these rules don't allow a player to willingly sit out if he is unhappy with his situation? Seems you are ok with teams treating players like pieces of meat, discarding them when they see fit, even though they signed a contract, but a player with a guaranteed contract exercising what leverage he has iswhat is wrong with the sport.But kudos to the Bengals. They could have opened up substantial cap space received some assets in return. They wanted to send a message that not only are they going to treat players without guarantees like crap, if they happen to give you any sort of leverage in the form of a guaranteed contract, your life will be made miserable as well. Great message to send to prospective FAs in the future. Wonder how it will work out for them.

 

[Sabertooth]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Um, hate to break this to you, but Vincent Jackson played out his contract. So no, he didn't have that option at all. His contract did expire so you are completely wrong here. But don't let facts get in your way.

But the team has the right to tack the franchise tag; again this CBA thingy that you know BOTH PLAYERS AND NFL SIGN WILLINGLY. Contracts once signed = you live with it or you can take a hike. I wish more teams would take this attitude.

When Jackson signed his contract the rule was that a player can be a restricted...ah never mind.

 

[FUBAR]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

The CBA does not say that. And the CBA is also A CONTRACT WILLINGLY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES. Get it? Players get what they SIGNED FOR WILLINGLY. If they do not like it, they can go get a real job in the real world.

In most fields, there are written rules and then there are standard practices. Owners know that players who greatly outperform their contract will hold out. Most accept this as a part of their profession. You seem overly jealous and hostile. I recomend finding yourself a lady friend for a night or two.

 

[QuizGuy66]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

 

[Sabertooth]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

The ability to hold out was also part of the agreement.

 

[Short Corner]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

Was the ability to hold out addressed in the CBA?

 

[Sweetness_34]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

The CBA does not say that. And the CBA is also A CONTRACT WILLINGLY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES. Get it? Players get what they SIGNED FOR WILLINGLY. If they do not like it, they can go get a real job in the real world.

Lol. Just like all of this years rookies that didn't get represented in negotiations. They "signed" the CBA.

Tough luck. They can always choose a different profession. These are the rules of the NFL.

And these rules don't allow a player to willingly sit out if he is unhappy with his situation? Seems you are ok with teams treating players like pieces of meat, discarding them when they see fit, even though they signed a contract, but a player with a guaranteed contract exercising what leverage he has iswhat is wrong with the sport.But kudos to the Bengals. They could have opened up substantial cap space received some assets in return. They wanted to send a message that not only are they going to treat players without guarantees like crap, if they happen to give you any sort of leverage in the form of a guaranteed contract, your life will be made miserable as well. Great message to send to prospective FAs in the future. Wonder how it will work out for them.

I never said Palmer or VJax broke any rules. What I said was I hope teams let them rot if that is what they choose to do.

 

[Sweetness_34]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

The ability to hold out was also part of the agreement.

I never said they could not. I just wish more tams would call their bluff and let them rot.

 

[Sweetness_34]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

Was the ability to hold out addressed in the CBA?

Just the fines $$ amount went up if you hold out. For eg: Chris Johnson is paying a lot more than he would have last year.

 

[FUBAR]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

Was the ability to hold out addressed in the CBA?

Just the fines $$ amount went up if you hold out. For eg: Chris Johnson is paying a lot more than he would have last year.

So the owners acknowledged the players had the right to hold out.

 

[Sweetness_34]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

Was the ability to hold out addressed in the CBA?

Just the fines $$ amount went up if you hold out. For eg: Chris Johnson is paying a lot more than he would have last year.

So the owners acknowledged the players had the right to hold out.

It is a free country. Anyone can hold out on any job. But the employer has the right to fine you or suspend you or fire/cut you. No different than any real job we all have. If the players do not like it, figure out a way to become an owner. Then you can call the shots

 

[QuizGuy66]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

Was the ability to hold out addressed in the CBA?

Just the fines $$ amount went up if you hold out. For eg: Chris Johnson is paying a lot more than he would have last year.

So the owners acknowledged the players had the right to hold out.

It is a free country. Anyone can hold out on any job. But the employer has the right to fine you or suspend you or fire/cut you. No different than any real job we all have. If the players do not like it, figure out a way to become an owner. Then you can call the shots

AFAIK They haven't been fining Carson, btw.-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

This poor thread has been 90% - what of the 49ers QB situation?

-QG

 

[Dr. Awesome]

This poor thread has been 90% - what of the 49ers QB situation?-QG

It sucks.

 

[redBourne]

For the Bengals fans crying about the Palmer situation, I for one am thrilled that some owner has the balls to take this stance. Enough of this nonsense. Once a player WILLINGLY SIGNS A CONTRACT, the only option is you finish that contract. Or you park your sorry behind on the bench and stay there and sulk as long as the contract is valid. Period. By taking this stance, hopefully the Bengals ae sending a clear message to the remaining players that we will not be hostage to any single player. This is the ultimate team sport and about time someone did that. I also applaud the SD GM for taking the same approach with VJax. Screw these overpaid, elitist players who feel they are entitled to anything more than the CONTRACT THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED. I wish more owners and GMs across the league took a stance like this. I have no problem if a team wants to extend a contract and reward a player when he is in the final year of his deal and he seems to be a player that has performed well. But again, that should be the team's prerogative and their decision to make. Not a decision that is FORCED upon them. Again, the original contract was signed by both parties WILLINGLY. The Player always has the option to leave in FA if he feels insulted that the team did not extend his contract before it expired. Of course, for a whiny beotch like Palmer who is getting paid handsomely and is over-paid given how much he sukks for a "franchise" Qb, I hope the Bengals let him rot. Even if he decides to come back, I hope they park his ### on the bench and keep him there until his contract expires and get the Dalton era going.

Both parties should be held to the same standard.

This.

The players failed to successfully get guaranteed contracts included in the latest agreement that resulted from collective bargaining. The ability to cut is part of the contract. It may not seem fair but it's part of the deal that was signed. -QG

Was the ability to hold out addressed in the CBA?

Just the fines $$ amount went up if you hold out. For eg: Chris Johnson is paying a lot more than he would have last year.

So the owners acknowledged the players had the right to hold out.

It is a free country. Anyone can hold out on any job. But the employer has the right to fine you or suspend you or fire/cut you. No different than any real job we all have. If the players do not like it, figure out a way to become an owner. Then you can call the shots

AFAIK They haven't been fining Carson, btw.-QG

They haven't? They have the choice not to fine him I guess, but I would assume that a company like the Bengals would take every liberty to do so; In sending that "message" that no player will hold-out on us to force our hand to a trade. Palmer is also sending a message that the Bengals are a more of a lose/win organization right now. The team loses more games with less quality players on the field and the company can gain more $ in doing do.ESPN is reporting that the Bengals are $35 million under cap space. This is the perfect opportunity to line the pockets and have an excuse to say "well we put the best players we could on the team but Palmer just quit". They let talent walk away by making offers lower than what they know the player will take, like CB Joseph. Again lets throw our arms up in the air and say "we tried." Here is a perfect article from ESPN again illustrating my point all too much.

I hope that Palmer does come back, just as it was said, to sit his ### on the bench and eat up that cap space. Let him make a point as well, that the only way you plan for Cincy is if you are drafted there.

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Cincinnati management does not make winning its first priority. Losing cheap is fine, and getting nothing for Palmer generates a nifty excuse for a weak 2011 season.