5 reasons to trade Chris Brown NOW (1 Viewer)

[hawaiiankrush]

Sorry, but I'm keeping Brown. If the 5 reasons are valid, why would anyone want to trade FOR him??? RIDICULOUS THREAD

 

[Da Masses]

Onterrio Smith in '03 was pretty good.

What do you mean WAS??? :rotflmao:

was...as in, the conversation regarding O. Smith in '03 was entertaining.

Still is Between Switz, Sonny, packersfan, hienzer, myself along with many others posting about the Minn RB soap opera (about 3 a week average) , Smith still remains quite the topic.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

This is not a fantasy football discussion, this is a d!ck measuring contest. Of the last 30 posts, only 2 or 3 have any substance. Who gives a damn about preseason rankings? Ask ruben droughns, he'll tell you they are part skill part total crap-shoot.All that matters is right now, some people need to take their heads out from their behinds and post on something more relevant than what some guy said 6 months ago. I'm interested in this tread, and don't really like sifting through mounds of BS to see some substance.TIA

 

[BigJim®]

Of course we should trade him for Portis Duece and Edge. They were all #1 draft picks this year. Brown I got as a #3 pick. I doubt anyone will give you those 3 guys but hell I would jump all over them if I could get them. When did Brown go ahead of those 3 as far as guys you want? He hasnt for me thats for sure so of course Id rather have them than Brown. I woulda got those guys from the beginning if I could have.      All the guys you mention in your post were drafted before Brown for good reason. They are more predictable to score more fantasy points the rest of the year. Just as they were at the beginning of the year. Alot of the reasons you stated in your post is why he wasnt ranked as high as those guys to begin the season so I dont think you told us anything we didnt already know. We drafted Brown cuz we couldnt get the best and highest ranked runners so we took a chance on Brown and still are.  :X

Mr Skoal-It is irrelevant at this point where someone was drafted. In the Top 200 forward, Brown is ranked ahead of Portis, Dillon, Deuce, etc. That is really the basis for this discussion. Would you be better off trading Brown now if you can get his fair value (which is very high, BTW)?

Well whoever you got your rankings from dont know what thier doing. No one in my league would even consider trading those guys to me for Brown. We all know Brown is a risk and apparently the ranking so called experts should reevaluate those runners because there is no way Brown should be ranked ahead of them. Also when trading it does matter where you drafted the guy because the people your trading with will say well I drafted Portis 1st round and you got Brown 3rd round so they would not be as willing to make that trade. :X

They're coming out of the woodworks...surprise, surprise.

LOL... leave it to LHUCKS to insinuate that others representing his opinions are "coming out of the woodwork." Say LHUCKS, perhaps you missed the part where the guy recommended that those who were smart enough to draft Brown *at all*, and presumptively with a ridiculously lower pick than his apparent actual worth as of 6 short weeks later, could leverage that good decision by trading for RBs such as Deuce, Portis and Edge. Don't insult folks' intelligence by pitching a tent in NoCheese's camp and claiming personal kudos over the love-support you are basking in, or anything resembling it. NoCheese's guidance doesn't implicate your opinions or your FF squad in the slightest since you were even passing on Chris Brown in the 5th round. I mean seriously, how do you even have the gall to contribute to this thread. This should be you at this point~~>

Big Jim I think you lost some of us. Who are you praising and who are you criticising?

LHUCKS knows full well who's being supported in this thread, and it certainly isn't "the opinions he expressed 3 months ago." I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

 

[NoCheese]

Sorry, but I'm keeping Brown. If the 5 reasons are valid, why would anyone want to trade FOR him??? RIDICULOUS THREAD

This statement is wrong on many levels. I'll name a few 1) Not every owner in your league(s) has the time to analyze the topic this deeply so they may not realize the "risks" 2) Who cares why someone would want to trade for him if you can gain an advantage by the trade? 3) I would actually trade FOR him myself if an owner didn't value him highly at all. So the point is not to get rid of him "at all costs", just to capitalize on his high ranking if you can get a comprably rated back.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I would trade him str8 up for Edge, Holmes, SA, and LT2.I might trade him str8 up for Martin or MossI would consider trading him for a package including Portis .I don't think I'd entertain offers that included anyone else.

 

[SCT]

Of course we should trade him for Portis Duece and Edge. They were all #1 draft picks this year. Brown I got as a #3 pick. I doubt anyone will give you those 3 guys but hell I would jump all over them if I could get them. When did Brown go ahead of those 3 as far as guys you want? He hasnt for me thats for sure so of course Id rather have them than Brown. I woulda got those guys from the beginning if I could have.      All the guys you mention in your post were drafted before Brown for good reason. They are more predictable to score more fantasy points the rest of the year. Just as they were at the beginning of the year. Alot of the reasons you stated in your post is why he wasnt ranked as high as those guys to begin the season so I dont think you told us anything we didnt already know. We drafted Brown cuz we couldnt get the best and highest ranked runners so we took a chance on Brown and still are.  :X

Mr Skoal-It is irrelevant at this point where someone was drafted. In the Top 200 forward, Brown is ranked ahead of Portis, Dillon, Deuce, etc. That is really the basis for this discussion. Would you be better off trading Brown now if you can get his fair value (which is very high, BTW)?

Well whoever you got your rankings from dont know what thier doing. No one in my league would even consider trading those guys to me for Brown. We all know Brown is a risk and apparently the ranking so called experts should reevaluate those runners because there is no way Brown should be ranked ahead of them. Also when trading it does matter where you drafted the guy because the people your trading with will say well I drafted Portis 1st round and you got Brown 3rd round so they would not be as willing to make that trade. :X

They're coming out of the woodworks...surprise, surprise.

LOL... leave it to LHUCKS to insinuate that others representing his opinions are "coming out of the woodwork." Say LHUCKS, perhaps you missed the part where the guy recommended that those who were smart enough to draft Brown *at all*, and presumptively with a ridiculously lower pick than his apparent actual worth as of 6 short weeks later, could leverage that good decision by trading for RBs such as Deuce, Portis and Edge. Don't insult folks' intelligence by pitching a tent in NoCheese's camp and claiming personal kudos over the love-support you are basking in, or anything resembling it. NoCheese's guidance doesn't implicate your opinions or your FF squad in the slightest since you were even passing on Chris Brown in the 5th round. I mean seriously, how do you even have the gall to contribute to this thread. This should be you at this point~~>

Actually, he said we were coming out of the "woodworks" which I believe are a series of wood......ah, forget it I'm just adding fuel to the fire (in the woodworks).

 

[tommyGunZ]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

 

[jurb26]

Whatever point there was to this post I think has been lost about 2 pages ago.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I wouldn't make such a horrendous offer.

 

[NoCheese]

I would trade him str8 up for Edge, Holmes, SA, and LT2.I might trade him str8 up for Martin or MossI would consider trading him for a package including Portis .I don't think I'd entertain offers that included anyone else.

Colin-I completely agree. Just because I'd rather have Dillon and Droughns over him (as well as the 6 other backs you mentioned) I'd only trade him straight up for Edge, Holmes, SA, LT2, and Martin. Portis/Deuce/Dillon/Droughns I have ranked higher but I wouldn't do straight up deals for Brown. I'd need to give up an average WR for a Top 10 WR as part of the trade, similar to what I did when I traded Brown/Coles for Portis/Andre Johnson.

 

[Mrskoal333]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

JealousySheep effectAngry Chris Brown Owners

 

[radballs.]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

JealousySheep effectAngry Chris Brown Owners

:rotflmao:

 

[Mrskoal333]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

JealousySheep effectAngry Chris Brown Owners

I own Chris Brown and Im not angry.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

JealousySheep effectAngry Chris Brown Owners

:rotflmao:

Bow to the left...Bow to the right.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

Hey, I like LHUCKS, as I've stated in several threads. He's an asset to the boards, and is extremely knowledgable.But Chris Brown became a value pick the minute Eddie George was released. Many (myself included) criticized Colin and others who drafted Brown in the 4th and 5th rounds during the summer. The second George was released, Brown's value exceeded his selection in the 4th and 5th round.Value is perception driven, and therefore changes every week. It isn't about drafting the guy who will end the year with the best stats, it's about drafting players whose value will exceed their draft position by the end of the season.Point being, even if Chris Brown is running upright this Sunday, gets crushed and dies, LHUCKS was wrong for not drafting him in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds because for almost 2 months now, Brown's value is worthy of a late 1st, early 2nd round selection. This is a case where LHUCK's cheatsheets being inaccurate cost him value.

 

[Mrskoal333]

LHUCKS if they dont like your rankings why do they bother to look at them. I dont need rankings to know who I want to draft or trade for. Maybe instead of critisizing the rankings they should try drafting and trading by themselves?

 

[BigJim®]

Of course we should trade him for Portis Duece and Edge. They were all #1 draft picks this year. Brown I got as a #3 pick. I doubt anyone will give you those 3 guys but hell I would jump all over them if I could get them. When did Brown go ahead of those 3 as far as guys you want? He hasnt for me thats for sure so of course Id rather have them than Brown. I woulda got those guys from the beginning if I could have.      All the guys you mention in your post were drafted before Brown for good reason. They are more predictable to score more fantasy points the rest of the year. Just as they were at the beginning of the year. Alot of the reasons you stated in your post is why he wasnt ranked as high as those guys to begin the season so I dont think you told us anything we didnt already know. We drafted Brown cuz we couldnt get the best and highest ranked runners so we took a chance on Brown and still are.  :X

Mr Skoal-It is irrelevant at this point where someone was drafted. In the Top 200 forward, Brown is ranked ahead of Portis, Dillon, Deuce, etc. That is really the basis for this discussion. Would you be better off trading Brown now if you can get his fair value (which is very high, BTW)?

Well whoever you got your rankings from dont know what thier doing. No one in my league would even consider trading those guys to me for Brown. We all know Brown is a risk and apparently the ranking so called experts should reevaluate those runners because there is no way Brown should be ranked ahead of them. Also when trading it does matter where you drafted the guy because the people your trading with will say well I drafted Portis 1st round and you got Brown 3rd round so they would not be as willing to make that trade. :X

They're coming out of the woodworks...surprise, surprise.

LOL... leave it to LHUCKS to insinuate that others representing his opinions are "coming out of the woodwork." Say LHUCKS, perhaps you missed the part where the guy recommended that those who were smart enough to draft Brown *at all*, and presumptively with a ridiculously lower pick than his apparent actual worth as of 6 short weeks later, could leverage that good decision by trading for RBs such as Deuce, Portis and Edge. Don't insult folks' intelligence by pitching a tent in NoCheese's camp and claiming personal kudos over the love-support you are basking in, or anything resembling it. NoCheese's guidance doesn't implicate your opinions or your FF squad in the slightest since you were even passing on Chris Brown in the 5th round. I mean seriously, how do you even have the gall to contribute to this thread. This should be you at this point~~>

:11: Link to your rankings please...thanks in advance.

BTW- I very much wish I could accommodate your request for general preseason rankings, as you are clearly insinuating that I'm a Johnny-come-lately. Let me put that fear of yours at ease by linking to my January 2004 FBG dynasty rankings, where I ranked Chris Brown #12, even ahead of D.Davis, and well ahead of his consensus #20 FBG ranking. I'm sure a reasonable guy like yourself will acknowledge that having him rated so highly even while EG remained on the roster (theoretically for another year) did not change after April when EG was released and CB became the starter.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...pic=66300&st=35

 

[Marc Levin]

Wow - this thread sure grew a lot of legs.

 

[Mrskoal333]

Of course we should trade him for Portis Duece and Edge. They were all #1 draft picks this year. Brown I got as a #3 pick. I doubt anyone will give you those 3 guys but hell I would jump all over them if I could get them. When did Brown go ahead of those 3 as far as guys you want? He hasnt for me thats for sure so of course Id rather have them than Brown. I woulda got those guys from the beginning if I could have.      All the guys you mention in your post were drafted before Brown for good reason. They are more predictable to score more fantasy points the rest of the year. Just as they were at the beginning of the year. Alot of the reasons you stated in your post is why he wasnt ranked as high as those guys to begin the season so I dont think you told us anything we didnt already know. We drafted Brown cuz we couldnt get the best and highest ranked runners so we took a chance on Brown and still are.  :X

Mr Skoal-It is irrelevant at this point where someone was drafted. In the Top 200 forward, Brown is ranked ahead of Portis, Dillon, Deuce, etc. That is really the basis for this discussion. Would you be better off trading Brown now if you can get his fair value (which is very high, BTW)?

Well whoever you got your rankings from dont know what thier doing. No one in my league would even consider trading those guys to me for Brown. We all know Brown is a risk and apparently the ranking so called experts should reevaluate those runners because there is no way Brown should be ranked ahead of them. Also when trading it does matter where you drafted the guy because the people your trading with will say well I drafted Portis 1st round and you got Brown 3rd round so they would not be as willing to make that trade. :X

They're coming out of the woodworks...surprise, surprise.

LOL... leave it to LHUCKS to insinuate that others representing his opinions are "coming out of the woodwork." Say LHUCKS, perhaps you missed the part where the guy recommended that those who were smart enough to draft Brown *at all*, and presumptively with a ridiculously lower pick than his apparent actual worth as of 6 short weeks later, could leverage that good decision by trading for RBs such as Deuce, Portis and Edge. Don't insult folks' intelligence by pitching a tent in NoCheese's camp and claiming personal kudos over the love-support you are basking in, or anything resembling it. NoCheese's guidance doesn't implicate your opinions or your FF squad in the slightest since you were even passing on Chris Brown in the 5th round. I mean seriously, how do you even have the gall to contribute to this thread. This should be you at this point~~>

:11: Link to your rankings please...thanks in advance.

BTW- I very much wish I could accommodate your request for general preseason rankings, as you are clearly insinuating that I'm a Johnny-come-lately. Let me put that fear of yours at ease by linking to my January 2004 FBG dynasty rankings, where I ranked Chris Brown #12, even ahead of D.Davis, and well ahead of his consensus #20 FBG ranking. I'm sure a reasonable guy like yourself will acknowledge that having him rated so highly even while EG remained on the roster (theoretically for another year) did not change after April when EG was released and CB became the starter.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...pic=66300&st=35

Who cares

 

[sts911911]

I just wanted to take a quick timeout and thank Chris Brown for inspiring the best threads on this board this year. Please commence with all of the thoughts I expressed three months ago.

Why would anyone intentionally want to be incorrect/wrong about the most vital position in FF?Colin

LHUCKS------------------>

Carl Zeutsius = Armchair FF'erWhen you're ready to play with the big boys, don't be afraid next time.

I'm only in one league with LHUCKS, and the way he comes off is very surprising. He comes off as some hot shot fantasy football player who knows everything. Right now in the league LHUCKS is 0-6 and last week he wasn't even aware that he was starting a player on a bye week. He could of swapped him and actually got some points, but instead, him being the very educated fantasy football player, didn't even realize he was starting someone on bye week.Point of story...LHUCKS don't go bragging like you are some hot shot playing in the toughest leagues and dominating all of them...everyone makes mistakes, and I'm sure everyone would get off your back if you admit yours.

 

[BigJim®]

Who cares

I'm assuming LHUCKS cares; that's why he asked. Good day sir.

 

[Mrskoal333]

Who cares

I'm assuming LHUCKS cares; that's why he asked. Good day sir.

I think hes like the rest of us and not give 2 cents about your lousy rankings. :X

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I just wanted to take a quick timeout and thank Chris Brown for inspiring the best threads on this board this year.  Please commence with all of the thoughts I expressed three months ago.

Why would anyone intentionally want to be incorrect/wrong about the most vital position in FF?Colin

LHUCKS------------------>

Carl Zeutsius = Armchair FF'erWhen you're ready to play with the big boys, don't be afraid next time.

I'm only in one league with LHUCKS, and the way he comes off is very surprising. He comes off as some hot shot fantasy football player who knows everything. Right now in the league LHUCKS is 0-6 and last week he wasn't even aware that he was starting a player on a bye week. He could of swapped him and actually got some points, but instead, him being the very educated fantasy football player, didn't even realize he was starting someone on bye week.Point of story...LHUCKS don't go bragging like you are some hot shot playing in the toughest leagues and dominating all of them...everyone makes mistakes, and I'm sure everyone would get off your back if you admit yours.

Here we go ...

 

[BigJim®]

Who cares

I'm assuming LHUCKS cares; that's why he asked. Good day sir.

I think hes like the rest of us and not give 2 cents about your lousy rankings. :X

Your anger is duly noted.

 

[SCT]

sts911911,Your sig. is awesome.Secondly, that's messed up to call the boy out like that. The truth hurts.

 

[Mrskoal333]

Who cares

I'm assuming LHUCKS cares; that's why he asked. Good day sir.

I think hes like the rest of us and not give 2 cents about your lousy rankings. :X

Your anger is duly noted.

By the way I just looked at your rankings and you had portis #1 so I wouldnt go bragging about it too much. :X

 

[LHUCKS]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

Hey, I like LHUCKS, as I've stated in several threads. He's an asset to the boards, and is extremely knowledgable.But Chris Brown became a value pick the minute Eddie George was released. Many (myself included) criticized Colin and others who drafted Brown in the 4th and 5th rounds during the summer. The second George was released, Brown's value exceeded his selection in the 4th and 5th round.Value is perception driven, and therefore changes every week. It isn't about drafting the guy who will end the year with the best stats, it's about drafting players whose value will exceed their draft position by the end of the season.Point being, even if Chris Brown is running upright this Sunday, gets crushed and dies, LHUCKS was wrong for not drafting him in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds because for almost 2 months now, Brown's value is worthy of a late 1st, early 2nd round selection. This is a case where LHUCK's cheatsheets being inaccurate cost him value.

The time span where I was most incorrect about Brown is between the time George was cut and the time that I bumped him up in my rankings(after I saw him run in preseason and after Fisher commented about his role in the offense)During that time I was so unimpressed with Brown that I was under the impression that A. Smith would steal significant carries due to several factors.In leagues where you could have traded Brown already for a proven fantasy commodity, I will now admit that I was wrong to rank Brown as low as I did during that time span, but only in those leagues.In survivor leagues or non-trading leagues Chris Brown IMO has yet to justify his preseason ADP because he was drafted ahead of others that are more proven and more likely to be there for your team in the playoffs when you need them most...or in the case of survivor leagues where you need them week to week.As for the constant jabs I receive, people get a kick out of giving me jabs because I talk a big game and have been invited into a lot of the "expert" leagues around here. For whatever reason, Dowling leads the charge and a bunch of guppies jump on the bandwagon...probably looking to make a name for themselves or win some sort of favor with the staff or some feeble attempt at messageboard cred.I'm one of the few that takes a stance on almost every controversial issue in the preseason and I'm one of the few that actually puts preseason rankings out around here. My rankings this year stack up against anybody's I've seen this year and the teams in my sig continue to outperform the mean. That is all the vindication I need.

 

[BigJim®]

Who cares

I'm assuming LHUCKS cares; that's why he asked. Good day sir.

I think hes like the rest of us and not give 2 cents about your lousy rankings. :X

Your anger is duly noted.

By the way I just looked at your rankings and you had portis #1 ao I wouldnt go bragging about it too much. :X

You're saying he isn't? Care to elaborate on that?

 

[Marc Levin]

Guys - this has gone on long enough - kiss and make up, or walk away, but if you are not posting about CBrown's trade prospects, this thread will have a short endgame.

 

[sts911911]

I think LHUCKS should start up his own thread about how he's planning to leverage Eddie George and Antowain Smith into straight up trades for Portis, Deuce and Edge.

:rotflmao:

I dont understand why everyone is all over LHUCKS. Is it just because he ranked Chris Brown too low in the preseason? If so that is rediculous because all rankings have errors if you look at them weeks later.

Hey, I like LHUCKS, as I've stated in several threads. He's an asset to the boards, and is extremely knowledgable.But Chris Brown became a value pick the minute Eddie George was released. Many (myself included) criticized Colin and others who drafted Brown in the 4th and 5th rounds during the summer. The second George was released, Brown's value exceeded his selection in the 4th and 5th round.Value is perception driven, and therefore changes every week. It isn't about drafting the guy who will end the year with the best stats, it's about drafting players whose value will exceed their draft position by the end of the season.Point being, even if Chris Brown is running upright this Sunday, gets crushed and dies, LHUCKS was wrong for not drafting him in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds because for almost 2 months now, Brown's value is worthy of a late 1st, early 2nd round selection. This is a case where LHUCK's cheatsheets being inaccurate cost him value.

The time span where I was most incorrect about Brown is between the time George was cut and the time that I bumped him up in my rankings(after I saw him run in preseason and after Fisher commented about his role in the offense)During that time I was so unimpressed with Brown that I was under the impression that A. Smith would steal significant carries due to several factors.In leagues where you could have traded Brown already for a proven fantasy commodity, I will now admit that I was wrong to rank Brown as low as I did during that time span, but only in those leagues.In survivor leagues or non-trading leagues Chris Brown IMO has yet to justify his preseason ADP because he was drafted ahead of others that are more proven and more likely to be there for your team in the playoffs when you need them most...or in the case of survivor leagues where you need them week to week.As for the constant jabs I receive, people get a kick out of giving me jabs because I talk a big game and have been invited into a lot of the "expert" leagues around here. For whatever reason, Dowling leads the charge and a bunch of guppies jump on the bandwagon...probably looking to make a name for themselves or win some sort of favor with the staff or some feeble attempt at messageboard cred.I'm one of the few that takes a stance on almost every controversial issue in the preseason and I'm one of the few that actually puts preseason rankings out around here. My rankings this year stack up against anybody's I've seen this year and the teams in my sig continue to outperform the mean. That is all the vindication I need.

I gotta hand it to you, you have great points. Not many people have the balls (or time) to post their rankings here, and you do a great job of participating in lots of topics. I didn't mean to come off and call you out like an ###, but I felt if you put out your rankings you gotta take the good flack with the bad flack, and it seemed like you weren't willing to take the bad. After this post...LHUCKS gotta hand it to you, you got my respect

 

[Mrskoal333]

Yea Im saying he isnt #1. He may be top 5 but not #1. Look at the fantasy numbers and you will see he hasnt been the #1 runner for fantasy. Im actually high on Portis but to have him #1 is too high. You also had Rudy Johnson #10 and thats way too high.

 

[BigJim®]

Yea Im saying he isnt #1. He may be top 5 but not #1. Look at the fantasy numbers and you will see he hasnt been the #1 runner for fantasy. Im actually high on Portis but to have him #1 is too high. You also had Rudy Johnson #10 and thats way too high.

Just so I'm clear, you are hijacking the thread to tell me a young RB, who despite underachieving, is 20 yards behind the NFL rushing leader "is top 5 but not #1" from a dynasty perspective? Wow, consider me totally bashed by you on that one. I hate to break it to you, but only Curtis Martin and Chris Brown have rushed for more yards this season, and I'm guessing you don't have those guys ranked ahead of Portis from a dynasty perspective. Also, (a) we're 6 weeks into the very first season following those rankings and (b) the name is Rudi.

 

[BigJim®]

I'd trade Chris Brown for Clinton Portis.

 

[Mrskoal333]

Yea Im saying he isnt #1. He may be top 5 but not #1. Look at the fantasy numbers and you will see he hasnt been the #1 runner for fantasy. Im actually high on Portis but to have him #1 is too high. You also had Rudy Johnson #10 and thats way too high.

Just so I'm clear, you are hijacking the thread to tell me a young RB, who despite underachieving, is 20 yards behind the NFL rushing leader "is top 5 but not #1" from a dynasty perspective? Wow, consider me totally bashed by you on that one. I hate to break it to you, but only Curtis Martin and Chris Brown have rushed for more yards this season, and I'm guessing you don't have those guys ranked ahead of Portis from a dynasty perspective. Also, (a) we're 6 weeks into the very first season following those rankings and (b) the name is Rudi.

Yea and you have Rudy ranked #10. :(

 

[Mrskoal333]

Yea Im saying he isnt #1. He may be top 5 but not #1. Look at the fantasy numbers and you will see he hasnt been the #1 runner for fantasy. Im actually high on Portis but to have him #1 is too high. You also had Rudy Johnson #10 and thats way too high.

Just so I'm clear, you are hijacking the thread to tell me a young RB, who despite underachieving, is 20 yards behind the NFL rushing leader "is top 5 but not #1" from a dynasty perspective? Wow, consider me totally bashed by you on that one. I hate to break it to you, but only Curtis Martin and Chris Brown have rushed for more yards this season, and I'm guessing you don't have those guys ranked ahead of Portis from a dynasty perspective. Also, (a) we're 6 weeks into the very first season following those rankings and (b) the name is Rudi.

Since you say were only 6 weeks into the season which is too early to tell how the rankings are going then why did you say how good yours are? There really no better than anyone elses. :X

 

[Marc Levin]

Yea Im saying he isnt #1. He may be top 5 but not #1. Look at the fantasy numbers and you will see he hasnt been the #1 runner for fantasy. Im actually high on Portis but to have him #1 is too high. You also had Rudy Johnson #10 and thats way too high. 

Just so I'm clear, you are hijacking the thread to tell me a young RB, who despite underachieving, is 20 yards behind the NFL rushing leader "is top 5 but not #1" from a dynasty perspective? Wow, consider me totally bashed by you on that one. I hate to break it to you, but only Curtis Martin and Chris Brown have rushed for more yards this season, and I'm guessing you don't have those guys ranked ahead of Portis from a dynasty perspective. Also, (a) we're 6 weeks into the very first season following those rankings and (b) the name is Rudi.

Since you say were only 6 weeks into the season which is too early to tell how the rankings are going then why did you say how good yours are? There really no better than anyone elses. :X

I'm seriously close to shutting down this hijack.PLEASE - talk Chris Brown, or start a new thread.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I'm one of the few that takes a stance on almost every controversial issue in the preseason and I'm one of the few that actually puts preseason rankings out around here. My rankings this year stack up against anybody's I've seen this year and the teams in my sig continue to outperform the mean. That is all the vindication I need.

I agree with you here.

 

[ThinkQuick]

Most of the reasons you gave were irrelevant if not outright stupid. About the only reason you gave that was worthwhile is the fact that Tennessee isn't scoring much. That's very valid if Chris Brown was drafted in the first round to be your #1 fantasy RB. Most likely he was a late 3rd, 4th round selection and he's your #2. If all you get from him is 100 yards and a TD here and there, he's more than doing his job as the #2.

And now here's 7 reasons why you SHOULD keep Chris Brown.

1) vs Minnesota

2) vs Cincinatti

3) vs Chicago

4) vs Houston

5) vs Indianapolis

6) vs Kansas City

7) vs Oakland (fantasy playoffs)

You'll be hard pressed to find a player on a team committed to the run against a run defense SOS as soft as Tennessee's. 20 attempts per game is not to be sniffed at. If your only argument is he might get hurt, you have no argument at all.

 

[joffer]

I'm one of the few that takes a stance on almost every controversial issue in the preseason and I'm one of the few that actually puts preseason rankings out around here. My rankings this year stack up against anybody's I've seen this year and the teams in my sig continue to outperform the mean. That is all the vindication I need.

:cough: omega :cough:

 

[EastBayFunk]

Why the militance? There's no need to lock the thread just because it doesn't contain lovey dovey hugs left and right. The audience here is probably 90% adult males. I think they can handle reading something that might contain heated arguments without shedding a tear and canceling their subscriptions. If they don't like it, they can always read a different thread. There are plenty of them.

 

[Marc Levin]

Most of the reasons you gave were irrelevant if not outright stupid.

Why do you say "stupid"?I agree that predicting injuries from upright runners is a weak reason.But, it is true that Brown has had problems in short yardage, thus killing drives.He also has left two of the Titans seven games due to injury.I am certainly keeping Brown in the leagues where I own him, for the reason you list above re: schedule.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why the militance? There's no need to lock the thread just because it doesn't contain lovey dovey hugs left and right. The audience here is probably 90% adult males. I think they can handle reading something that might contain heated arguments without shedding a tear and canceling their subscriptions. If they don't like it, they can always read a different thread. There are plenty of them.

It is not a "war" about trading Chris Brown - I'd leave that be.It was a full on hijack topic between two people that was turning ugly fast.

 

[Mrskoal333]

Most of the reasons you gave were irrelevant if not outright stupid.

Why do you say "stupid"?I agree that predicting injuries from upright runners is a weak reason.But, it is true that Brown has had problems in short yardage, thus killing drives.He also has left two of the Titans seven games due to injury.I am certainly keeping Brown in the leagues where I own him, for the reason you list above re: schedule.

I saw the short yardage plays and Earl Campbell in his prime couldnt have gotten back to the line with the aweful up front blocking of the Titans on those plays.

 

[Marc Levin]

Most of the reasons you gave were irrelevant if not outright stupid.

Why do you say "stupid"?I agree that predicting injuries from upright runners is a weak reason.But, it is true that Brown has had problems in short yardage, thus killing drives.He also has left two of the Titans seven games due to injury.I am certainly keeping Brown in the leagues where I own him, for the reason you list above re: schedule.

I saw the short yardage plays and Earl Campbell in his prime couldnt have gotten back to the line with the aweful up front blocking of the Titans on those plays.

Good point - I recall that short yardage was a problem for their line last year, too.

 

[NoCheese]

About the only reason you gave that was worthwhile is the fact that Tennessee isn't scoring much. That's very valid if Chris Brown was drafted in the first round to be your #1 fantasy RB. Most likely he was a late 3rd, 4th round selection and he's your #2. If all you get from him is 100 yards and a TD here and there, he's more than doing his job as the #2.

Man, I can't tell you how ludicrous your argument is. You drafted him in the 3rd or 4th round as your #2 back, so getting 100 yds and an occassional TD makes you happy because your expectations are low? Not that there's anything wrong with those numbers, but when will people learn that IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE A PLAYER WAS DRAFTED. So what if he was selected in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round. His value is what it is (which is currently very high). Fantasy football is all about risk/reward, and I think the risk you take by passing up Edge, Portis, Deuce, etc for Brown in a trade if you can swing it is a missed opportunity to get more of a proven player. You can't look at it as "he was my 4th round pick" and is outperforming my expectations, so why would I trade him? Doesn't make any sense.

 

[NoCheese]

Most of the reasons you gave were irrelevant if not outright stupid.

Why do you say "stupid"?I agree that predicting injuries from upright runners is a weak reason.But, it is true that Brown has had problems in short yardage, thus killing drives.He also has left two of the Titans seven games due to injury.I am certainly keeping Brown in the leagues where I own him, for the reason you list above re: schedule.

I saw the short yardage plays and Earl Campbell in his prime couldnt have gotten back to the line with the aweful up front blocking of the Titans on those plays.

But those suggesting that it's not Chris Brown's fault that the blocking was so bad on those plays are right; however, it is what it is. If the blocking is bad for any team on short yardage, no back will succeed. Since Tennessee's line is not that good, will this not adversely affect him, regardless if he didn't have a chance on those particular short yardage plays?

 

[sheerterror]

I think where a player was drafted plays a major role in pulling off "big" trades. In my experience, owners seem to hold some form of sentimental value to their top draft picks. An example would be myself trying to trade Thomas Jones and Eric Moulds for Torry Holt after week 3. Now, value-wise, I'm greatly overpaying for an upgrade at receiver and the other owner (IMO) gets a great deal, but because of where the other owner drafted Holt (mid second round) he was NOT willing to part with him for players that I drafted later than that.

 

[ThinkQuick]

About the only reason you gave that was worthwhile is the fact that Tennessee isn't scoring much. That's very valid if Chris Brown was drafted in the first round to be your #1 fantasy RB. Most likely he was a late 3rd, 4th round selection and he's your #2. If all you get from him is 100 yards and a TD here and there, he's more than doing his job as the #2.

Man, I can't tell you how ludicrous your argument is. You drafted him in the 3rd or 4th round as your #2 back, so getting 100 yds and an occassional TD makes you happy because your expectations are low? Not that there's anything wrong with those numbers, but when will people learn that IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE A PLAYER WAS DRAFTED. So what if he was selected in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round. His value is what it is (which is currently very high). Fantasy football is all about risk/reward, and I think the risk you take by passing up Edge, Portis, Deuce, etc for Brown in a trade if you can swing it is a missed opportunity to get more of a proven player. You can't look at it as "he was my 4th round pick" and is outperforming my expectations, so why would I trade him? Doesn't make any sense.

It makes perfect sense. If you had a decent draft, than you have an Edge or Deuce in front of Chris Brown. Chris Brown is on pace for 1600 yards and 11 TDs this year. What's the big need to trade him away? How many RBs are on pace for better? No one is going to trade you Edge or Alexander or Deuce or Priest or LT straight up for Chris Brown. This thread is basically a wishful thinking "I wish I could get this guy for Chris Brown because I don't have the balls to trust in my pick". I wish I could upgrade all my players on a 1 for 1 basis too, but I can't. I find it absurd that anyone would be unhappy with Chris Brown's production. Unless you're trading with a dolt, you'd have to give away more than you got in return so you can get a "name-brand" RB like Priest or Deuce. And to borrow a line from you... When will people learn that YOU DONT HAVE TO SELL A PLAYER HIGH JUST TO SAY YOU DID IT. If a player is high, it's for a reason... he's playing great. I'd rather Chris Brown be on my team than someone else's team.