8 team league (1 Viewer)

[dtroitkid]

I'm in a league with some weak players who refuse to expand the league. I can't find any good advice tailored to the short league (or even 8 team mock drafts!)

Drafting for depth becomes less important because there are players on the waiver wire. But what else? Anyone have any experience with 8 team leagues?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Start 2 QBs.

Add 2 flex starters.

 

[supermark_28]

Start 2 QBs. Add 2 flex starters.

Maybe TE scoring 1 ppr,gives them some scoring weight. A salary cap might make things interesting. Make it a maximum of say $200 or $300,assigned values to each player (how they finished the previous season or whatever),makes the drafting more interesting.

 

[the rover]

I play in one. It's kind of fun not having to worry about bye weeks or injuries. Assuming you're only starting one QB, TE and/or D, these positions become more valuable, since the dropoff after the first few is one of the few places where you can really do anything that is significantly different than what's going to be available to everyone. Plenty of RBs and WRs to go around.

Don't be afraid to grab Manning, Brady or Romo in the first round, or pick up a TE in the 4th.

We drafted last weekend...I took my second RB in the 7th round.

 

[the rover]

Start 2 QBs. Add 2 flex starters.

Maybe TE scoring 1 ppr,gives them some scoring weight. A salary cap might make things interesting. Make it a maximum of say $200 or $300,assigned values to each player (how they finished the previous season or whatever),makes the drafting more interesting.

I don't think he's looking to change rules to make it more fair; I think he's just trying to take advantage of the format.

 

[dtroitkid]

Start 2 QBs. Add 2 flex starters.

Maybe TE scoring 1 ppr,gives them some scoring weight. A salary cap might make things interesting. Make it a maximum of say $200 or $300,assigned values to each player (how they finished the previous season or whatever),makes the drafting more interesting.

I don't think he's looking to change rules to make it more fair; I think he's just trying to take advantage of the format.

you are correct sir

 

[Gbagzz]

Our 8 team league has been going on for 8 yrs.

2 QB

3 RB

3 WR

1 TE

1 WR/TE Flex

K

D

 

[dtroitkid]

we start

1 QB

2 RB

2 WR

1 TE

1 PK

1 DEF

pretty much standard scoring except Pass TD's = 6 pts. Bonus Pts. for 300 pass yds. 100 rush/rec yds.

this is not negotiable. I'm not the commissioner and carry very little "weight" in regards to the rules.

I think 8 teams takes a lot of the skill out of it. Every team is stacked.

 

[jwb]

I play in one of these. 5th year now. It's the only redraft I play in, and the only local league / live draft, and I find it a lot of fun (most of the guys don't know much about FF, draft from mags, etc.)

I find I have to constantly guard against Value Based Drafting, because I'd never fill a starting lineup This happened to me the first year - I'm thinking I'm such a shark taking that RB in the 6th because I can't believe he fell (because these guys all fill out their starting lineups first... really, D's get taken before most guys take a RB3). But the problem with that is I end up with 6 stud RB's, and am weak everywhere else.

So I learned - if all the guys in the room are drafting by position / starting lineup, I need to be at least paying attention to that. Finals last three years (with 2 wins)

 

[jwb]

I think 8 teams takes a lot of the skill out of it. Every team is stacked.

I agree with that to a point, but I still enjoy my 8-team redraft. I have several dynasty leagues for the bigger challenge, so the 8-team redraft allows me to have that "greatest hits" type team every year Plus, it's fun to see guys like Driver on the WW

 

[coolnerd]

we start1 QB2 RB2 WR1 TE1 PK1 DEFpretty much standard scoring except Pass TD's = 6 pts. Bonus Pts. for 300 pass yds. 100 rush/rec yds.this is not negotiable. I'm not the commissioner and carry very little "weight" in regards to the rules.I think 8 teams takes a lot of the skill out of it. Every team is stacked.

Try to get top 5 at QB and TE. since everyone can have good players, you need can't rely on being better at drafting RB and WR to make up for the difference between Romo and say Schaub. For your bench, would say try draft more for upside than normal (say take a Bowe over Driver), because you will be able to get solid guys of the WW if it does not workout.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I am in a similar league. I think I still plan on taking one of the top 4 RB's if available, but no real idea what to do beyond that (I guess go QB if I get the 7th or 8th pick?). Last year I didn't pick a WR until the 5th Round and ended up w/ Boldin/Walker/A-Johnson - good value, bad health, bad result, but it almost makes me want to wait on WR's again.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Try to get top 5 at QB and TE. since everyone can have good players, you need can't rely on being better at drafting RB and WR to make up for the difference between Romo and say Schaub. For your bench, would say try draft more for upside than normal (say take a Bowe over Driver), because you will be able to get solid guys of the WW if it does not workout.

This is basically what I was going to say. "Waiting on _________ " is not really applicable to small legaues. Smaller the league, the less importan the draft and more important the wire. ALso, you have to pay more attention to matchups than in larger leagues where your starters are "more obvious".

 

[C-Bound]

I think 8 teams takes a lot of the skill out of it. Every team is stacked.

I agree with that to a point, but I still enjoy my 8-team redraft. I have several dynasty leagues for the bigger challenge, so the 8-team redraft allows me to have that "greatest hits" type team every year Plus, it's fun to see guys like Driver on the WW

Right, every team is "stacked" just like every team "isn't stacked" in a 12 team league. Everyone plays with the same rules. Been in a 8 teamer for 10 years with 1 PPR, 6 pts for a passing TD, etc. Pretty standard scoring. Tried a 12 team league one year, they both have their merits as has been discussed here ad nauseum.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Try to get top 5 at QB and TE. since everyone can have good players, you need can't rely on being better at drafting RB and WR to make up for the difference between Romo and say Schaub. For your bench, would say try draft more for upside than normal (say take a Bowe over Driver), because you will be able to get solid guys of the WW if it does not workout.

This is basically what I was going to say. "Waiting on _________ " is not really applicable to small legaues. Smaller the league, the less importan the draft and more important the wire. ALso, you have to pay more attention to matchups than in larger leagues where your starters are "more obvious".

Sounds like good advice. How nitty do you think one should be on QB tiers? I have Palmer ranked 5th (I guess I like him more than most). After that I'm not sure how many - if any - tiers there should be between Roethlisburger/Hasselbeck/Andersons down to the Girrard/Cutler/Eli/Schaubs.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Bills_ I lhave Palmer 5th. also. I'd probably try to get one of the top 5. Then I'd pick my back up from your third tier (though I put Cutler in your 2nd).

 

[ceo3west]

8 Teams = A Ball

10 Teams = AA Ball

12 Teams = AAA Ball

14 Teams = Major Leagues

 

[the rover]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

 

[simsarge]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

Knew sooner or later, that was coming. Surprised one of these knuckeheads didn't chime in sooner.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

what are 16 team leagues?

 

[Brutis]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

what are 16 team leagues?

I think the 14 and 16 teams are easier to play. Try to figure out which stud you want to play each week in a 8 team league.

 

[the rover]

8 Teams = A Ball

10 Teams = AA Ball

12 Teams = AAA Ball

14 Teams = Major Leagues

what are 16 team leagues?

Isn't it obvious?

 

[jwb]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

This all depends. For example, I have a MUCH easier time with my starting lineup in my 16-teamer. It's obvious who to start. But "play your studs" is much harder when they're *all* studs.

 

[ceo3west]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

This all depends. For example, I have a MUCH easier time with my starting lineup in my 16-teamer. It's obvious who to start. But "play your studs" is much harder when they're *all* studs.

The problem with the 8 teamer is there is no skill in the draft. Anquan Boldin goes down? No problem, here's Donald Driver on the bench. It's a joke IMO.

 

[jwb]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

This all depends. For example, I have a MUCH easier time with my starting lineup in my 16-teamer. It's obvious who to start. But "play your studs" is much harder when they're *all* studs.

The problem with the 8 teamer is there is no skill in the draft. Anquan Boldin goes down? No problem, here's Donald Driver on the bench. It's a joke IMO.

It's only a joke when compared apples to apples to other leagues. But the thing is, it's not apples to apples. Trust me, it's MUCH harder to decide on / pick the most effective starting lineup in the 8-team league. The OP asked about strategy adjustments in an 8 team league. I don't see how/where ridiculing 8 team leagues fits into that. Why the need to discount one, call it a joke, etc? I play in an 8, four 12's, one 14, and one 16. They all have validity, and are all challenging in their own way.

 

[ceo3west]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

This all depends. For example, I have a MUCH easier time with my starting lineup in my 16-teamer. It's obvious who to start. But "play your studs" is much harder when they're *all* studs.

The problem with the 8 teamer is there is no skill in the draft. Anquan Boldin goes down? No problem, here's Donald Driver on the bench. It's a joke IMO.

It's only a joke when compared apples to apples to other leagues. But the thing is, it's not apples to apples. Trust me, it's MUCH harder to decide on / pick the most effective starting lineup in the 8-team league. The OP asked about strategy adjustments in an 8 team league. I don't see how/where ridiculing 8 team leagues fits into that. Why the need to discount one, call it a joke, etc? I play in an 8, four 12's, one 14, and one 16. They all have validity, and are all challenging in their own way.

You're right, I shouldn't have discounted it. But IMO I'd rather have a league that's based on drafting skills rather than skills at setting a weekly lineup.

 

[gasFace]

Id try to draft an elite QB and TE in an 8 team league

Pretty much every team will be stacked so any kind of edge will help

 

[Hurl Bruce]

I have one of these tonight and am highly valuing QB. If Brady is available, he is my #1...Tomlinson may be my 4th pick behind Manning and Romo as well. TD's being 6 for QB's just puts such a weight on their importance. I want to get one of Brady, Romo, Brees, Manning, Palmer, Tomlinson, or Peterson in the first round and will be happy. I guess that means not getting the 8th pick, but I doubt all of the drafters will pull themselves away from the RB heavy theories.

I also agree with the idea of going early on TE and even DEF & PK. Our league is giving out a good bonus for top scorer at each position, so jumping on a highly rated TE like Witten early is well worth it.

Draft Dominator will make going for those positions early less problematic.

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

I play in an 8 man league and also a 12 man league. In a 12 league you go RB-RB generally, because there aren't 24 stud RBs to go around.

That generally isn't true in an 8 man league. You should be able to get decent RBs even if you don't choose them with your first 2 picks. So don't be afraid to get true studs at other positions, e.g. Brady, Moss, if the opportunity arises.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Had the last pick in my draft the other night.

First 7 gone were LT2, ADP, Westbrook, Brady, Manning, Addai, Portis...

I went with Romo/SJax....cool?

If I had known Palmer would drop as insanely far as he ultimately did I would've taken Moss or Lynch instead of Romo.

 

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No way I would compete in a 8 team with standard rosters....

Hell, our 10 Team league starts:

QB

WR

WR

WR

RB

W/R Flex

W/R Flex

W/T Flex

TE

K

DEF

Gotta draft deep into the player pool to cover your back and it gives more knowledgeable FF'ers a better shot.

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

No way I would compete in a 8 team with standard rosters.... Hell, our 10 Team league starts:QBWRWRWRRBW/R FlexW/R FlexW/T FlexTEKDEFGotta draft deep into the player pool to cover your back and it gives more knowledgeable FF'ers a better shot.

Thank you for sharing. How does telling us all about you 10 team league help the original poster?

 

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No way I would compete in a 8 team with standard rosters.... Hell, our 10 Team league starts:QBWRWRWRRBW/R FlexW/R FlexW/T FlexTEKDEFGotta draft deep into the player pool to cover your back and it gives more knowledgeable FF'ers a better shot.

Thank you for sharing. How does telling us all about you 10 team league help the original poster?

Guess ya gotta spell it out for some folks... I (and many others) consider a 10 team league to be shallow (like a 8 team league)... so we upped the roster requirements. That was a suggested roster requirement that would work great at leveling the playing field in a 8 team league as well.

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

No way I would compete in a 8 team with standard rosters.... Hell, our 10 Team league starts:QBWRWRWRRBW/R FlexW/R FlexW/T FlexTEKDEFGotta draft deep into the player pool to cover your back and it gives more knowledgeable FF'ers a better shot.

Thank you for sharing. How does telling us all about you 10 team league help the original poster?

Guess ya gotta spell it out for some folks... I (and many others) consider a 10 team league to be shallow (like a 8 team league)... so we upped the roster requirements. That was a suggested roster requirement that would work great at leveling the playing field in a 8 team league as well.

Clearly you didn't really read the original post. He stated that ppl in his league are against expanding it.Again, thank you for sharing.

 

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Clearly you didn't really read the original post. He stated that ppl in his league are against expanding it.

Again, thank you for sharing.

I'm in a league with some weak players who refuse to expand the league. I can't find any good advice tailored to the short league (or even 8 team mock drafts!)

Clearly you didn't read the original post. It's pretty clear that by "expand the league" he was referring to expanding beyond a "short league". He then asks for help tailored to "short leagues... or even 8 team mocks".

10 teams is a short league as well. I offered a suggestion on a way to make a short league better. Quit being such a tool.

Here's a novel idea... Why don't you let the original poster determine if my advice is useful or not? Nothing more pathetic than someone playing thread police in someone else's thread.

 

[[icon]]

8 Teams = A Ball10 Teams = AA Ball12 Teams = AAA Ball14 Teams = Major Leagues

what are 16 team leagues?

16 Teamers are where it's at

 

[[icon]]

we start1 QB2 RB2 WR1 TE1 PK1 DEFpretty much standard scoring except Pass TD's = 6 pts. Bonus Pts. for 300 pass yds. 100 rush/rec yds.this is not negotiable. I'm not the commissioner and carry very little "weight" in regards to the rules.I think 8 teams takes a lot of the skill out of it. Every team is stacked.

Given that roster and scoring I'd go Stud QB (Brady / Brees / Romo / Manning in that order) / Stud RB (pray for Lynch / Gore or Portis to fall) / then go best available WR/RB off the board for the next 4-5 Rounds stopping only to make sure you get one of the top TE (Witten / Winslow / Gates).

 

[TheMaddog]

We play 8 team dynasty Start 1qb 3rb 3wr 1k 1def. Keep 16 each year, 26 man roster. Adding the depth of the rosters and keeper keep you from having 'stud city' to choose from. In addition the 3rb 3wr with no flex makes it difficult to have studs at both rb and wr.

Qb in our leagues are more valuable if you get a stud (6pts/td).

Draft is uber important as no studs are floating FA during the draft.

 

[Buckna]

Draft a stud QB, TE and even Defense earlier than usual. Don't bother with sleepers, let them sleep on the wire and grab them later if they actually break out. Matchups are extremely important but I personally think they are by far the hardest things to predict. Try to trade for the guys who are going nuts in a particular year (Brady and Moss last year or a RB who is on pace to break the TD record.)

Finally, let go of the frustration because generally I have found there is way more luck involved in a competitive 8 team league since every team is loaded.