9/11 Museum has a gift shop (1 Viewer)

[McGarnicle]

I bought an FDNY shirt, a magnet and a coffee table book when I visited last year. The place made an impact on me and I was glad for the opportunity to buy some keepsakes.

The gift shop wasn't open last year...

I was there on July 5 and it was jam packed. Better check your facts.

that wasnt the 911 museum

I know a guy.

 

[Lutherman2112]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

That's some serious money. Saw this, too (bottom of article):

The National September 11 Memorial and Museum cost a total of $700 million to build, and will cost about $60 million to run each year – $10 million of which will be devoted to security – making it the most expensive memorial in the nation by far.

 

[NCCommish]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I bought an FDNY shirt, a magnet and a coffee table book when I visited last year. The place made an impact on me and I was glad for the opportunity to buy some keepsakes.

The gift shop wasn't open last year...

Sure it was. I was inside. There were several actually.

umm the 911 museum just opened

They had some of it opened already and there was a gift shop. Great discussion though.

 

[Tom Servo]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

 

[NCCommish]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

Yeah there isn't less work because it's a charity. There is a going rate for someone to do that job. How many times have you taken the offer which paid 1/3 of your other offers? I am going to guess not very often, if ever. So if the going rate is 300kish then it is. If that is in excess of what similarly experienced people make doing the same job then we may have a problem.

 

[Rayderr]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

Did a search on Charity Navigator for "memorial". Some random ones that came up (in no particular order):

Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund President- $220k

VVMF COO - 265k

US Holocaust Memorial Museum Director - $485k

US Navy Memorial Foundation Director - $165k

Robert E. Lee Memorial Association Director - $138k

Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust Director - $271k

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund Director - $222k

Buffalo Bill Historical Center CEO - $193k

CIA Officers Memorial Fund Director - $136k

 

[Tom Servo]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

Did a search on Charity Navigator for "memorial". Some random ones that came up (in no particular order):

Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund President- $220k

VVMF COO - 265k

US Holocaust Memorial Museum Director - $485k

US Navy Memorial Foundation Director - $165k

Robert E. Lee Memorial Association Director - $138k

Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust Director - $271k

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund Director - $222k

Buffalo Bill Historical Center CEO - $193k

CIA Officers Memorial Fund Director - $136k

So it is possible to do charity work for less than $370k? Hmmm...

 

[apalmer]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

Did a search on Charity Navigator for "memorial". Some random ones that came up (in no particular order):

Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund President- $220k

VVMF COO - 265k

US Holocaust Memorial Museum Director - $485k

US Navy Memorial Foundation Director - $165k

Robert E. Lee Memorial Association Director - $138k

Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust Director - $271k

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund Director - $222k

Buffalo Bill Historical Center CEO - $193k

CIA Officers Memorial Fund Director - $136k

So it is possible to do charity work for less than $370k? Hmmm...

It is if you only need to plan for 750 visitors a year.

 

[NCCommish]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

Did a search on Charity Navigator for "memorial". Some random ones that came up (in no particular order):

Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund President- $220k

VVMF COO - 265k

US Holocaust Memorial Museum Director - $485k

US Navy Memorial Foundation Director - $165k

Robert E. Lee Memorial Association Director - $138k

Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust Director - $271k

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund Director - $222k

Buffalo Bill Historical Center CEO - $193k

CIA Officers Memorial Fund Director - $136k

So it is possible to do charity work for less than $370k? Hmmm...

If you are going to do a comparison try the US Holocaust Museum, it's more apt. You'll notice that person makes way more than 370k.

 

[bigbottom]

This was a huge undertaking involving a massive capital campaign and significant ongoing operations. Those numbers don't seem all that out of whack to me considering the size and scale of what we're talking about. Hell, Otis is a working stiff commuting to the city every day and makes way more than those guys.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

That's some serious money. Saw this, too (bottom of article):

The National September 11 Memorial and Museum cost a total of $700 million to build, and will cost about $60 million to run each year – $10 million of which will be devoted to security – making it the most expensive memorial in the nation by far.

Well thank goodness we have t-shirts and coffee books to pay for it all.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I bought an FDNY shirt, a magnet and a coffee table book when I visited last year. The place made an impact on me and I was glad for the opportunity to buy some keepsakes.

The gift shop wasn't open last year...

Sure it was. I was inside. There were several actually.

umm the 911 museum just opened

They had some of it opened already and there was a gift shop.Great discussion though.

Any observations or report on the museum itself, then?

Some of the gift shop sounds crass (jewelry, tshirts that say "9/11" or "911" on them), some of it not at all (FD and PD hats and t-shirts sound ok to me); but wait 10 years and see how bad it gets.

 

[17seconds]

If you are OK with executive salaries for something like Burger King, I don't know why you'd object to them for people who work to create and manage an important memorial.

It should have a gift shop, but I'd expect it to be appropriate. If they have inflatable twin towers or a Starbucks bear in an FDNY costume that's pretty ####ed up.

 

[bro1ncos]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

Did a search on Charity Navigator for "memorial". Some random ones that came up (in no particular order):

Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund President- $220k

VVMF COO - 265k

US Holocaust Memorial Museum Director - $485k

US Navy Memorial Foundation Director - $165k

Robert E. Lee Memorial Association Director - $138k

Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust Director - $271k

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund Director - $222k

Buffalo Bill Historical Center CEO - $193k

CIA Officers Memorial Fund Director - $136k

So it is possible to do charity work for less than $370k? Hmmm...

Guessing all of those places aren't in NYC either. Location has a huge impact on a salary for exact same position/job.

Does the person doing your job make the exact same wages everywhere in the country?

 

[Tom Servo]

People should be more outraged at the salaries of the "executives" who run the charity.

What are they?

http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/911-museum-bigs-cash-in/

But 11 staffers at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum each pulled down more than $170,000 in total compensation in 2009, according to the most recent filings. Four execs took home more than $320,000.

Foundation President Joseph Daniels, 38, pocketed $371,307 after receiving hefty raises three years in a row 28 percent in 2006, when he was promoted from acting president, followed by 12 percent and 6 percent.

Museum director Alice Greenwald made $351,000, and capital planning Vice President Joan Gerner soaked up $337,143 before leaving last spring. Development director Cathy Blaney raked in $322,292. The full-time foundation employee also worked last year as a fund-raiser for Gov. Cuomos election campaign.

* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307

* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100

* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143

* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292

* David Langford, CFO: $224,113

* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429

* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270

* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316

* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831

* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417

edit: here is a more recent tally.

So the FDNY wants to talk crap about people having contracts? Don't they have a contract and a pretty good one? May want to walk that one back. And really you can't just look at these salaries in a vacuum. How do they compare to other people doing similar jobs at similar venues in NYC?

You really need to pay someone $370k to run a charity? How about $100k and free parking?

Did a search on Charity Navigator for "memorial". Some random ones that came up (in no particular order):

Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund President- $220k

VVMF COO - 265k

US Holocaust Memorial Museum Director - $485k

US Navy Memorial Foundation Director - $165k

Robert E. Lee Memorial Association Director - $138k

Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust Director - $271k

National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund Director - $222k

Buffalo Bill Historical Center CEO - $193k

CIA Officers Memorial Fund Director - $136k

So it is possible to do charity work for less than $370k? Hmmm...

Guessing all of those places aren't in NYC either. Location has a huge impact on a salary for exact same position/job.

Does the person doing your job make the exact same wages everywhere in the country?

Actually, pretty much yes.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Arlington National Cemetary has a gift shop, as long as the money is going to the right places then it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Nipsey]

When do the rides open?

 

[TheIronSheik]

So is this the new topic we're all going to pretend to be outraged by for the next week?

 

[NCCommish]

So is this the new topic we're all going to pretend to be outraged by for the next week?

It doesn't have that kind of staying power. We will find new outrage I assume. Although we do have a long weekend coming up so that may make for a slow cycle.

 

[fantasycurse42]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bH1vlteSuQ

FC42's father in law, main actor... Real FDNY captain (now retired) - Dude lost his entire ladder on 9/11 - Thank god it was his day off... Guy got down there, but the buildings had collapsed by the time he got there. Dude dug through Ground Zero and then was on scene for months. Dude is a beast

They wanted a real firefighter for this commercial.

 

[grateful zed]

When do the rides open?

they are hiring a mascot as we speak.

 

[grateful zed]

It's not like they're selling replica buildings with planes sticking out. The gifts seem appropriate and tasteful. No problem here.

this fall the will be a line of halloween costumes.

 

[flapgreen]

Really, who cares?

not me

 

[Fennis]

Was this on Fox News today or something?

 

[Fennis]

Was this on Fox News today or something?

yes: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-friends/blog/2014/05/19/911-museum%E2%80%99s-absurd-gift-shop

 

[fatness]

So would you folks rather the government subsidize all of the costs. You sure as hell would be complaining about that too.

Along similar lines..........

Gotta find some way to pay back the hundreds of thousands we paid each family estate after 911 from the taxpayers. Why did they get paid? I didn’t bomb them?

 

[grateful zed]

It's not like they're selling replica buildings with planes sticking out. The gifts seem appropriate and tasteful. No problem here.

this fall the will be a line of halloween costumes.

walmart will be supplying them.

In the minds of many, Osama Bin Laden was a man that most people don’t need to be reminded of in their everyday lives.

Now, a Bin Laden-themed Halloween costume on sale in the U.S. has attracted a number of complaints for doing just that.

Walmart is being pressured to pull its turban-themed costume from its website, after the Halloween outfit was deemed “insulting” by U.S.-based Sikh community.

 

[Parrothead]

will probably sell Bin Laden jerseys some day.. I'm sure it would be a big seller at the DNC

 

[BobbyLayne]

Was this on Fox News today or something?

yes: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-friends/blog/2014/05/19/911-museum%E2%80%99s-absurd-gift-shop

F'ing lemmings

 

[17seconds]

Was this on Fox News today or something?

yes: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-friends/blog/2014/05/19/911-museum%E2%80%99s-absurd-gift-shop

Their headline is "absurd gift shop", yet their audience is probably the highest % purchasing demographic of "united we stand" type items.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I bought an FDNY shirt, a magnet and a coffee table book when I visited last year. The place made an impact on me and I was glad for the opportunity to buy some keepsakes.

The gift shop wasn't open last year...

Sure it was. I was inside. There were several actually.

umm the 911 museum just opened

They had some of it opened already and there was a gift shop. Great discussion though.

The 9/11 Memorial was open last year. There were off-site gift shop - not part of the site.

The 9/11 Museum has been open a few days. The 9/11 Museum gift shop - on site - opened a few days ago.

The site is the final resting spot for 8,000 unidentified body parts of 9/11 victims. This ism't some quirky pedantic distinction, Aaron. It's kind of important to the folks who were a little closer than you were 13 years ago or today.

FTR I found the Memorial to be very simple and beautiful and powerful. I was unprepared for how overwhelming it is.

I have not been to the Museum, and likely never will be. I wish they would have stopped with the Memorial. But the victims families wanted one. Now the victims families are unhappy people treat it like an attraction and not a memorial. Oh, wait...

 

[Jeff Vader]

I bought an FDNY shirt, a magnet and a coffee table book when I visited last year. The place made an impact on me and I was glad for the opportunity to buy some keepsakes.

The gift shop wasn't open last year...

Sure it was. I was inside. There were several actually.

umm the 911 museum just opened

They had some of it opened already and there was a gift shop.Great discussion though.

The 9/11 Memorial was open last year. There were off-site gift shop - not part of the site.

The 9/11 Museum has been open a few days. The 9/11 Museum gift shop - on site - opened a few days ago.

The site is the final resting spot for 8,000 unidentified body parts of 9/11 victims. This ism't some quirky pedantic distinction, Aaron. It's kind of important to the folks who were a little closer than you were 13 years ago or today.

FTR I found the Memorial to be very simple and beautiful and powerful. I was unprepared for how overwhelming it is.

I have not been to the Museum, and likely never will be. I wish they would have stopped with the Memorial. But the victims families wanted one. Now the victims families are unhappy people treat it like an attraction and not a memorial. Oh, wait...

This.

 

[Premier]

Was this on Fox News today or something?

yes: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-and-friends/blog/2014/05/19/911-museum%E2%80%99s-absurd-gift-shop

so good.

 

[Gopher State]

You're kidding me, right?

The 9/11 museum’s cavernous boutique offers a vast array of souvenir goods. For example: FDNY, NYPD and Port Authority Police T-shirts ($22) and caps ($19.95); earrings molded from leaves and blossoms of downtown trees ($20 to $68); cop and firefighter charms by Pandora and other jewelers ($65); “United We Stand” blankets.

There are bracelets, bowls, buttons, mugs, mousepads, magnets, key chains, flags, pins, stuffed animals, toy firetrucks, cellphone cases, tote bags, books and DVDs.

Even FDNY vests for dogs come in all sizes.

:X

This is America good for them, may we never forget

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

The 9/11 Memorial was open last year. There were off-site gift shop - not part of the site.

The 9/11 Museum has been open a few days. The 9/11 Museum gift shop - on site - opened a few days ago.

The site is the final resting spot for 8,000 unidentified body parts of 9/11 victims. This ism't some quirky pedantic distinction, Aaron. It's kind of important to the folks who were a little closer than you were 13 years ago or today.

FTR I found the Memorial to be very simple and beautiful and powerful. I was unprepared for how overwhelming it is.

I have not been to the Museum, and likely never will be. I wish they would have stopped with the Memorial. But the victims families wanted one. Now the victims families are unhappy people treat it like an attraction and not a memorial. Oh, wait...

So, it's ok for the Memorial to have a gift shop? Was that news last year? Were people outraged about it too?

 

[BobbyLayne]

The 9/11 Memorial was open last year. There were off-site gift shop - not part of the site.

The 9/11 Museum has been open a few days. The 9/11 Museum gift shop - on site - opened a few days ago.

The site is the final resting spot for 8,000 unidentified body parts of 9/11 victims. This ism't some quirky pedantic distinction, Aaron. It's kind of important to the folks who were a little closer than you were 13 years ago or today.

FTR I found the Memorial to be very simple and beautiful and powerful. I was unprepared for how overwhelming it is.

I have not been to the Museum, and likely never will be. I wish they would have stopped with the Memorial. But the victims families wanted one. Now the victims families are unhappy people treat it like an attraction and not a memorial. Oh, wait...

So, it's ok for the Memorial to have a gift shop? Was that news last year? Were people outraged about it too?

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[Aaron Rudnicki]

Off site = ok

On site = disgusting

Is that accurate?

 

[NCCommish]

So I suppose everyone hating on the gift store want to use federal tax money to pay for everything? I'm down personally.

 

[Don Quixote]

So I suppose everyone hating on the gift store want to use federal tax money to pay for everything? I'm down personally.

I think it's run by a not-for-profit and does not receive government funding. They'd just have to raise admissions, or try to get more donations.

(I'm fine with the gift store though.)

 

[McGarnicle]

Sunny and 85 today, wearing my 9/11 cargo shorts.

 

[The General]

Was this on Fox News today or something?

Has it been linked to Benghazi yet?

 

[Jeff Vader]

Personally, I'm waiting for the rollercoaster.

Just as it looks like you're going to smash into two buildings, WOOSH, you swerve away safely. Be sure to buy our six foot tall Lego replica on the way out. When you push a button, a little yellow figure bursts into fire and jumps from the top! Only $399.99. Never forget!

 

[Fennis]

I've been to more than my share of museums. I cant think of a single one that doesn't have an overpriced gifts shop.

 

[Jeff Vader]

 

[TheIronSheik]

I've been to more than my share of museums. I cant think of a single one that doesn't have an overpriced gifts shop.

Me too. And I usually assume (whether right or wrong) that the proceeds from the sales go to keeping the place running.

 

[Parrothead]

Personally, I'm waiting for the rollercoaster.

Just as it looks like you're going to smash into two buildings, WOOSH, you swerve away safely. Be sure to buy our six foot tall Lego replica on the way out. When you push a button, a little yellow figure bursts into fire and jumps from the top! Only $399.99. Never forget!

a snow globe of the burning towers with papers floating everywhere.. $19.99

 

[SeaDogStat]

No bottle openers... DISAPPOINTED!

 

[grateful zed]

i guess cigarette lighters would be tacky.

 

[bro1ncos]

i guess cigarette lighters would be tacky.

I think they would be better than box cutters